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WokMaster1
09-11-2007, 4:36 PM
I'm looking for the the California code on the legality on carrying a shotgun in a vehicle. Can someone help? Thanks.:D

Librarian
09-11-2007, 5:41 PM
As is often the case, there is no positive statement such as "It is legal to carry a long gun", but rather nothing appears to prohibit it.

For instance 12021.5. (a) Every person who carries a loaded or unloaded firearm
on his or her person, or in a vehicle, during the commission or
attempted commission of any street gang crimes described in
subdivision (a) or (b) of Section 186.22, shall, upon conviction of
the felony or attempted felony, be punished by an additional term of
imprisonment in the state prison for one, two, or three years in the
court's discretion. The court shall impose the middle term unless
there are circumstances in aggravation or mitigation. The court
shall state the reasons for its enhancement choice on the record at
the time of sentence.
(b) Every person who carries a loaded or unloaded firearm together
with a detachable shotgun magazine, a detachable pistol magazine, a
detachable magazine, or a belt-feeding device on his or her person,
or in a vehicle, during the commission or attempted commission of any
street gang crimes described in subdivision (a) or (b) of Section
186.22, shall, upon conviction of the felony or attempted felony, be
punished by an additional term of imprisonment in the state prison
for two, three, or four years in the court's discretion. Can't carry a gun around, loaded or unloaded, if you're going to commit 'street gang crimes."
Fish and game code says 2006. It is unlawful to possess a loaded rifle or shotgun in any
vehicle or conveyance or its attachments which is standing on or
along or is being driven on or along any public highway or other way
open to the public.
A rifle or shotgun shall be deemed to be loaded for the purposes
of this section when there is an unexpended cartridge or shell in the
firing chamber but not when the only cartridges or shells are in the
magazine.
The provisions of this section shall not apply to peace officers
or members of the armed forces of this State or the United States,
while on duty or going to or returning from duty.
The implication is that unloaded carry is OK.

bwiese
09-11-2007, 5:43 PM
If an officer asks you why you're driving with a shotgun, tell him it's because having a pistol in the glovebox is illegal.

:)

ViPER395
09-11-2007, 6:05 PM
If an officer asks you why you're driving with a shotgun, tell him it's because having a pistol in the glovebox is illegal.

:)

I laugh everytime I read that, B.

I'll state it again. Even though F&G code says you can have cartridges in a magazine, but not chambered, i've been hassled about it twice by F&G wardens while parked in the truck.

WokMaster1
09-11-2007, 6:47 PM
Thanks guys. Bill, you should put that on stickers & sell them.:D

Librarian. Where do you get all these info?

Shane916
09-11-2007, 7:30 PM
http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html

bwiese
09-11-2007, 7:35 PM
Thanks guys. Bill, you should put that on stickers & sell them.:D

No Don (the guy who makes Calguns hats/T-shirts/stickers) should for Calguns benefit.

Xenophobe also has his great AR15 quote: "SPROING: Learn it, live it, love it." which also needs to go on a shirt or bumper sticker.

Librarian
09-11-2007, 7:42 PM
Librarian. Where do you get all these info?
Well, I really am trained as a Librarian (1. The liquid inside a Librarian can be used as a substitute for blood plasma!) , so research is usually pretty easy for me. A pleasant hobby, as it were. (2. It takes forty minutes to hard-boil a Librarian!)

In this case, California has its codes on line at http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
(7. If you drop a Librarian from more than three metres above ground level, he will always land feet-first.)

It's pretty basic, for a search engine, but I checked 'all' at the bottom of the right column, and entered "shotgun" in the 'search by keyword' box.(16. The Librarian cannot swim.)

Read through all the returns, and dropped out all the 'short-barreled shotgun' references and the 'assault weapon' references, and what I posted is pretty much all that was left. (39. Koalas sleep for 22 hours a day, two hours more than Librarians.)

WokMaster1
09-11-2007, 8:13 PM
:smilielol5: That's a good one. I needed that laugh! Thanks!


Well, I really am trained as a Librarian (1. The liquid inside a Librarian can be used as a substitute for blood plasma!) , so research is usually pretty easy for me. A pleasant hobby, as it were. (2. It takes forty minutes to hard-boil a Librarian!)

In this case, California has its codes on line at http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/calaw.html
(7. If you drop a Librarian from more than three metres above ground level, he will always land feet-first.)

It's pretty basic, for a search engine, but I checked 'all' at the bottom of the right column, and entered "shotgun" in the 'search by keyword' box.(16. The Librarian cannot swim.)

Read through all the returns, and dropped out all the 'short-barreled shotgun' references and the 'assault weapon' references, and what I posted is pretty much all that was left. (39. Koalas sleep for 22 hours a day, two hours more than Librarians.)

VegasND
09-11-2007, 8:17 PM
But you forgot:

(42. If you pinch a librarian you will increase your store of lexical items)

hoffmang
09-11-2007, 8:23 PM
However, if you know which section of Penal Code you are looking for, the findlaw version is much better formatted:
http://caselaw.lp.findlaw.com/cacodes/pen.html

Sadly, the search engine that I use for that link is my wrote memorization of which issues are where...

-Gene

Librarian
09-11-2007, 10:28 PM
I'm kind of partial to the Cornell University Law Library site - for example
http://www.law.cornell.edu/statutes.html
is the link page for ALL the online statutes for the US and every state (except PA, for no reason I can discover -- Pennsylvania code is at http://www.pacode.com/secure/browse.asp, as well as linked through FindLaw).

The comparable FindLaw page is http://www.findlaw.com/11stategov/index.html