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elenius
09-11-2007, 10:03 AM
Let's not forget about this one, AB 1645, the "Katrina" bill. It's before the governor. Ask him to sign it.

http://nramemberscouncils.com/legs.shtml?summary=ab1645&year=2007

http://gov.ca.gov/interact


BTW, since faxes apparently count more than emails, did anyone have successes with one of the free email2fax services online?

mecam
09-11-2007, 11:04 AM
I think even if he ignores this, it will become law by default in 30 days.

elenius
09-11-2007, 11:41 AM
I think even if he ignores this, it will become law by default in 30 days.

Is that what we expect to happen? Either way, it's easy enough to send off an email showing support. I'm delighted and somewhat surprised that this bill passed :)

joe4702
09-11-2007, 12:20 PM
Yeah, no kidding. I never knew the bill existed until I heard it was on the Gov's desk. I wonder how many Republicans had to give up their first child to get it passed?:o

dfletcher
09-11-2007, 1:30 PM
I'm always leary of these situations - sign one for us and one against us. I think the legislators do this sort of thing just so they appear to be taking the middle ground.

mikehaas
09-11-2007, 3:00 PM
Yeah, no kidding. I never knew the bill existed until I heard it was on the Gov's desk. I wonder how many Republicans had to give up their first child to get it passed?:o
Actually, due to the great job Ed did at the capitol, it moved fairly quickly through the legislature, so much so, we didn't have to call out the troops for this one. So everything stayed relatively quiet. (More effective to have you fight Microstamping, lead Ammo Ban, etc than work on something that was already almost "sliding" through.)

http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1645

It passed out of the Assembly unanimously (73-0) in May. The Senate gave it a tougher time, but it still went through without any amendments.

It was Senator Scott's September 5 comments on the Senate floor against AB 1645 that drove the creation of What would PLEASE Senator Jack Scott? (http://calnra.com/) (What a LOAD that guy is!)

Mike

mikehaas
09-11-2007, 3:28 PM
I think even if he ignores this, it will become law by default in 30 days.
That's correct - Arnold has to veto any bill on his desk to prevent it from becoming law (opposite of most other states and the federal govt where a bill dies if the Executive in Charge doesn't sign it.)

We want him to sign (or ignore) EMERGENCY POWERS; FIREARMS...
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1645

And defintely want him to veto (NOT ignore):

MICROSTAMPING:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab1471

LEAD AMMO BAN:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab821

Note the governor has ALREADY SIGNED:

PUBLICATIONS:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2007&summary=ab854
(a good bill)

So far, the antis have passed nothing into law in 2007. That's what happened in the 2005-2006 session - they passed NOTHING while we passed:

CONSUMER PROTECTION
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2006&summary=ab2111

PRIVACY PROTECTION
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2006&summary=sb1239

ASSAULT WEAPONS
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2006&summary=ab2728
(this one even started out as an ANTI-GUN bill!)

"UNSAFE HANDGUN LIST" EXEMPTIONS
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2005&summary=sb269

So it CAN happen, and does, when we are unified and focused.

Mike

Correction: The antis did pass one "anti-gun" bill in 2005, but not much of one - a technical change that affected those charged with "AW" violations. While this bill did not affect the average gun-owner, I include it here to be complete and accurate:
http://calnra.com/legs.shtml?year=2005&summary=ab88

hoffmang
09-11-2007, 3:43 PM
It was Senator Scott's September 5 comments on the Senate floor against AB 1645 that drove the creation of What would PLEASE Senator Jack Scott? (http://calnra.com/) (What a LOAD that guy is!)


And don't forget who used to be Senator Scott's chief of staff...

-Gene

Anthonysmanifesto
09-11-2007, 3:52 PM
If a bill is on the Governors desk (in code as " in possession" ) prior to the Adjournment of the Legislature on an odd year (first of a biennial session)... then the Governor has Twelve days to sign the bill or return it to its house of origin unsigned (Veto).

failure to do either results in it becoming law without a signature.

AB 1645 is still in enrollment, being prepared for presentation to the Governor and is not yet in his possesion. Neither is the Microstamping, for purposes of starting that clock.

This is in Art IV, Sec. 10(b)(1) thru about (4)

in the State Constitution.

Because the latest the Legislature will adjourn by Friday at the LAtest ( and is makin ggreat efforts to take a break mid week for the Jewish new year) it is very likely the Governor will have 30 days on most or all of the bills of interest. with a drop dead date of October 14th.

dfletcher
09-11-2007, 6:53 PM
If a bill is on the Governors desk (in code as " in possession" ) prior to the Adjournment of the Legislature on an odd year (first of a biennial session)... then the Governor has Twelve days to sign the bill or return it to its house of origin unsigned (Veto).

failure to do either results in it becoming law without a signature.

AB 1645 is still in enrollment, being prepared for presentation to the Governor and is not yet in his possesion. Neither is the Microstamping, for purposes of starting that clock.

This is in Art IV, Sec. 10(b)(1) thru about (4)

in the State Constitution.

Because the latest the Legislature will adjourn by Friday at the LAtest ( and is makin ggreat efforts to take a break mid week for the Jewish new year) it is very likely the Governor will have 30 days on most or all of the bills of interest. with a drop dead date of October 14th.

So in effect the "kill it or it lives" date for microstamping is 14 October?

elenius
09-11-2007, 9:03 PM
I read that the governor is calling an extra session about the health care issues. Does that change the deadlines for vetoing?