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duenor
09-10-2007, 11:07 PM
i have a rem. mod 11 barrel with a frozen polychoke and the last couple of inches look like what happened - the guy who owned it stored it upside down barrel in the dirt floor for decades.

id like to hack it down to 18.5", and shorten the LOP as well.

do you think this will affect the recoil operated system? and, does anybody here do that kind of work?

-hanko
09-11-2007, 2:03 PM
do you think this will affect the recoil operated system? and, does anybody here do that kind of work?
Before I wacked her, I'd see if I couldn't find a lighter recoil spring...

This is not necessarily something you have to send to a smith...you can cut the barrel with a hacksaw (use a new 32 tip blade), square the cut with a fine file and small square, and touch up the bluing with (ta da)touch-up bluing.

Recoil implulse will be shorter, but if the recoil cycle is complete quickly after firing, the gun may work perfectly after you chop the barrel.

-hanko

jpscoot_21
09-11-2007, 8:41 PM
The riot versions have 20" barrels and function fine. Yours should be okay at 18.5". If you're going to put rifle sights, remember to put the rear sight forward around 4" because the barrel recoils into the receiver.

AJAX22
09-11-2007, 9:53 PM
you can use my pipe cutter if you want ;)

seriously though if you ever want to get rid of that ol girl, remmy 11's are my favorite shotgun

I have a 20 inch riot, a 30 inch trap and a 26 inch hunting setup all work great

Dump1567
09-13-2007, 10:50 AM
Just did one two days ago. Hacksaw and a file. Just under 18 1/2". Haven't fired it yet.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v470/Dump1567/Rem-11-1.jpg?t=1189694343

AJAX22
09-13-2007, 11:16 AM
I would highly reccommend a quality pipe cutter over a hacksaw, while hacksaws work, they can be uneven and may cause your gun to pattern funny (I had one that I did that shot a bit high afterwards because my cut angle wasn't perfect.

pipecutters will cut it flush and they leave only a minimal burr.

a lathe is the best option, but I did my 870 with a pipecutter, I did my stevens 520 with a hacksaw, screwed up and redid it with a pipecutter and it was alot nicer.

ar15barrels
09-13-2007, 6:17 PM
I have cut a few shotguns in the lathe.
The hard part is supporting the barrel when you can't slide the lug into the headstock.

I can cut round barrels, but I can't cut them if they have ribs.

If they have ribs, I could probably set them up in the milling machine and make a square cut there.

duenor
09-14-2007, 1:18 AM
ajax,

where are you located? can i come over and borrow your pipecutter (or perhaps you can show me how you do it)? i'll buy beer or starbucks, whichever type guy you are.

to tell the truth i can probably leave the barrels the way they are, but i'm hankering powerful for some bubba goodness and i figure i have a pretty good candidate. hacking the barrel down to 18.5 ought to make this a pretty good HD gun.

i have no idea of what to do for a sight...

however, one possible solution would be to somehow mount a cheap red dot onto the receiver.

randy
09-14-2007, 3:45 AM
I think there is a law that a shotgun must have a front site. I'm not sure somebody here might know.

Ya might check it out.

TMC
09-14-2007, 8:07 AM
Don't use a pipe cutter it will crimp/bend in the barrel at the cut. Use a saw and then a file to clean it up.

ar15barrels
09-14-2007, 8:31 AM
I think there is a law that a shotgun must have a front site.

:rofl2:

Only if you need to AIM it.
If it's for use at distances within a house, you won't need a front sight as you just POINT it.

If you want a front sight, there are several that can be soldered to the barrel after it's cut.

AJAX22
09-14-2007, 9:46 AM
Don't use a pipe cutter it will crimp/bend in the barrel at the cut. Use a saw and then a file to clean it up.

Only a cheap/dull cutter will do that, a high quality one will cut very cleanly and will not leave a burr or crimp that will hurt your barrel. If there is any distortion of the barrel it is so slight that you cannot tell it with your finger.

The trick is to use a high quality very sharp pipe cutter and go slowly.

I've thrown slugs, buck, highpower loads through guns I've chopped and done it without a hitch for years (even back when I was shooting much more frequently)

The problem is that people get dull cutters and/or they try to go to fast and tigten the cutting wheel down to far and dent in the barrel. Patience makes it work out

There usually is a tiney amount of inner lip that is built up, but it knocks down quickly with a pattern file and the end result is much cleaner than a hacksaw job

AJAX22
09-14-2007, 10:10 AM
Here's a crummy pic of my 870 barrel with a rough cut off a pipe cutter,

the only deformation of the barrel is the tiny black line at the very edge of the barrel tip, you can feel it with your finger, the other ring is because I didn't oil the barrel after i used the cutter (hey I forgot, it happens)
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/DCP_0191.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/DCP_0193.jpg

And here are some gratuitous pics of my hunting setup remmy 11. I bought her for 145$ shipped as a project gun to cut up and make into a replica whippet, I figured at that price she'd be a beater... then I opened the box to find this beauty and a factory pair of hunting barrels... I just couldn't chop up something that nice

http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/DCP_0194.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/DCP_0197.jpg
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u115/Ratduster77/DCP_0195.jpg

Please excuse the dusty fingerprints on my remmy 870, I took it out to the desert and havent given her a proper cleaning (my little brother appropriated my cleaning kit)

saki302
09-15-2007, 2:56 AM
I cut my Rem 11 barrel on my mini-lathe. It worked well enough, but I had to use my finger as the rear live center :P haha

It shot & cycled just fine. It came cut at something like 20.5", but was very rough (hack saw job)- it's around 19-19.5" now.

The gun cycles fast too- I was expecting more of the rack-harvester cycle, i.e. Remington 1100, but it feels more like an M1S90.

-Dave

Dump1567
09-15-2007, 7:36 AM
I cut my Rem 11 barrel on my mini-lathe. It worked well enough, but I had to use my finger as the rear live center :P haha

It shot & cycled just fine. It came cut at something like 20.5", but was very rough (hack saw job)- it's around 19-19.5" now.

The gun cycles fast too- I was expecting more of the rack-harvester cycle, i.e. Remington 1100, but it feels more like an M1S90.

-Dave

I heard the shorter barrels work best with your rings set for heavy loads.

Here's some good info on ring set-up (sorry if you already knew this, but someone else may find it useful as I did).

http://www.practicalmachinist.com/cgi-bin/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=16;t=000413;p=0

Heavy Loads
http://members.aol.com/bad2db/xxx


Light Loads
http://members.aol.com/bad2db/yyy


Very Light Loads
http://members.aol.com/bad2db/zzz

saki302
09-15-2007, 11:22 AM
Yep- I set the recoil emchanism for heavy loads, and it's stayed that way.

-Dave

Pulsar
09-15-2007, 6:30 PM
Should be fine, length of the barrel doesn't affect the function of an A5 (sorry, Rem model 11, same thing :p)

Gangsters in the 20's and 30's would saw them down to just about an inch past the mag tube and they worked fine.

AJAX22
09-15-2007, 10:39 PM
Should be fine, length of the barrel doesn't affect the function of an A5 (sorry, Rem model 11, same thing :p)

Gangsters in the 20's and 30's would saw them down to just about an inch past the mag tube and they worked fine.

actually they would cut it down to about one shell length past the mag tube (3 inches roughly)

clyde barrow perfected it on a 20 gauge that bonnie was known to favor (she used it on those motorcycle cops)