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bako88fan
01-20-2013, 5:23 PM
****10/22/2013 UPDATE****

LET'S DO THIS! THIS SATURDAY, OCTOBER 26 AT 7 AM

We may not have the support of the county but we can make a dent. Let's head out this Saturday October 26, in the morning and clean up what we can.

I'll be out at 7 am with some rakes and shovels. I'll bring the bags and my truck. Let's clean up the big stuff. We can't take tires but we can get everything else that we can. We can section off an area and focus in getting it well cleaned.

I'll bring a couple of coolers with sodas and water. I'll make sure to bring enough for 40 people. Can we get 40? I don't Facebook so can we get people organized through there?

After we clean up, let's shoot! Bring your ARs/AKs/C&Rs whatever! Please make sure to clean up after yourself and let's see if we can get some of the other shooters that show up out there to help us out.

Will you please post in this thread if you're in?

Onery Rascal
01-27-2013, 7:05 PM
Directions?
missed this time out, maybe next time.

bako88fan
01-27-2013, 9:18 PM
My proposed date for this was next weekend. I haven'thad a single response from anyone (but you!) willing to go. Hope we get some more before the weekendor iI may just throw up my hands and say not this time.

BiteIsBigger
04-05-2013, 1:25 PM
I go there frequently and its gotten pretty bad.

If we can set a date well in advance.. try to get some heavier equipment to haul.

Shoot me an email. Evan [at] foundersarms [dot] net

Slim///
09-10-2013, 12:19 AM
Just wanted to bump this. I guess there are rumors going around that they threatening to close this spot unless people clean it up. I'd be willing to help cleanup if we can set something up

bako88fan
09-10-2013, 10:02 AM
I just added info to the original post. Please read here or PM me for more information. We need everyone's help to keep this area open.

Slim///
09-10-2013, 1:52 PM
Cool. The 28th looks doable for me. I have a pickup we can use to help haul trash out of there

bako88fan
09-11-2013, 8:54 PM
New update! Since we are doing a community cleanup, we will not be charged for any items that we take to the Taft dump. Let's get this place cleaned up so that we don't lose it!

Please share this info via Facebook and other social networking sites. It's time to show the antis that we can organize and we care.

ChaoSS
09-12-2013, 5:28 AM
PM me. I'm a ways north of Bakersfield, but would like to find a place to shoot where I don't have to pay to get in and deal with stupid range rules. If it's something I could get to reasonably, I'd be interested in helping out and shooting.

Slim///
09-12-2013, 6:14 PM
Shared on a few facebook pages. Looks like we got a few more people that want to help out so far. Do we have a time we are trying to be there?

bako88fan
09-14-2013, 9:47 PM
I'm thinking earlier since it'll be cooler. I'll be out there at 7. I hope to have one person staged at the road so we can show people how to get in. I know it is going to be tough but I may also ask that person to help dissuade shooting while we are cleaning up.

I have a meeting with the county on Wednesday morning at the site. Kern County may be sending roll off bins so that all we have to do is toss garbage in the bins. I was warned that they may ask us to push the cleanup back two weeks so that they can provide additional resources. I'll keep everyone posted.

aim2shu
09-14-2013, 10:02 PM
Where do I sign up? never been to the place so I will need some tips on how to get there.

aim2shu
09-14-2013, 10:04 PM
forgot to mention I also got a truck if the roll bins don't show up.

bako88fan
09-14-2013, 10:41 PM
Head out west from Bakersfield on Taft Hwy. Turn right on Tupman Road and head north. Go through the town of Tupman. Head about 2 miles north. You'll see a large yellow pole in an upside L shape. It's next to a Creek. Head west on the dirt road following it along the Creek. Once you see the bridge, cross it and you're there. Hope to see you out there.

Zedrek
09-15-2013, 6:53 AM
That sucks, I work on weekends. I'm going to try to check it out during the weekdays coming up though. I'll haul out what I can when I can. I'm moving back to Bakersfield in a few weeks and need a place to shoot my curio and relics.

Mirage
09-16-2013, 5:03 PM
I will plan on being there.
I subscribed to this thread to catch any updates.

bako88fan
09-16-2013, 6:34 PM
The center of the site is in the link below. If you've shot in the Tupman area before, you probably know this site.

I will update the info as soon as I meet with the county on Wednesday morning. I'll also take some pictures of the site. Lots of tires and household trash out there along with brass, shells and targets.



http://maps.google.com/maps?ll=35.32427812204036,-119.39349811524154&spn=0.0013450420616436531,9.652599692202557E-4&hl=en&gl=us

http://goo.gl/maps/ND1SV

aim2shu
09-17-2013, 12:39 PM
holy smokes there's tons of tires looks like it any way. can't the tires be recycle?

bako88fan
09-17-2013, 5:12 PM
Tires can be recycled. I'm going to discuss how with the county tomorrow. I'll update everyone here.

Mirage
09-17-2013, 7:08 PM
Holly smokes is right. I didn't notice the map had a satellite view. That answers a lot of questions I had about the project.

bako88fan
09-25-2013, 7:35 AM
****UPDATE****

POSTPONED UNTIL OCTOBER

I'm working with the county of Kern to provide assistance on this cleanup. Here I formed me that their cleanup organizers wont be available till at least October 12. They will be providing roll off bins to toss the trash in. We met at the site last week and came up with two areas that we really want to focus on cleaning.


Please tell friends. If we can get 100 people out there, it is probably a 6 hour job with plenty of time left for shooting.

Sailormilan2
09-26-2013, 7:14 PM
****UPDATE****

POSTPONED UNTIL OCTOBER

I'm working with the county of Kern to provide assistance on this cleanup. Here I formed me that their cleanup organizers wont be available till at least October 12. They will be providing roll off bins to toss the trash in. We met at the site last week and came up with two areas that we really want to focus on cleaning.


Please tell friends. If we can get 100 people out there, it is probably a 6 hour job with plenty of time left for shooting.

Good choice on postponing it. I am willing to help, witha pickup and a trailer, but will be up in D-8 for deer season. Just post when you are planning on doing it in October.

bako88fan
10-09-2013, 9:26 AM
****10/8/2013 UPDATE****

POSTPONED indefinitely. Your feedback would be appreciated.

After discussion and negotiations with Kern County Waste Management, we have found a major problem with organizing a cleanup at this site. There are three different land owners, one a private oil company and two stage agencies, which have a claim to this property. This means that the shooting going on at this site is illegal.

Kern County Waste Management gave us three options. The first would be to clean up the property ourselves, with no bins or County help but we would have to pay out of pocket in order to dump the trash at a landfill. The second option would be to contact the land owners and have them help us clean it up. This would likely get the site shut down, since the state agencies are of the wildlife preserve variety. The oil company would likely shut down the site for liability reasons. The third option would be to call and report it, which would mean code enforcement would instruct each landowner to clean up the site, likely ending in it being shut down. In short, there are no good options here.

Does anyone have any input on how we could proceed? It is important to me that this site get cleaned up, even if we can't shoot there anymore, because it is the right thing to do. As shooters we have the responsibility to clean up the mess. I'm sure none of us here made the mess but it needs to be cleaned up. Any ideas are welcome. I'm at a loss. Out of respect for the land, I'm going to find another spot to shoot at which is legal and safe.

aim2shu
10-13-2013, 6:40 PM
wow this really sucks you try and do good and at the end you just hurt yourself, I hate it when that happens. I went a few weeks ago with my wife just to try out the new toy afterwards we picked up some trash and hauled it out. at the same time there were other people there but when they left they just packed up their gear :( didn't even get the targets they brought in. Sometimes I just have to wonder if we cleaned it up completely how long would it last?? It's just sad people don't care about the land, think about it guys this is our playground we have fun here lets help keep it clean.

Slim///
10-14-2013, 3:34 PM
Seems like there's no easy way to go about it. I'm up for cleaning and paying the dump. But I doubt others would be

Zedrek
10-14-2013, 8:46 PM
I'm guessing that the owners don't really care about the shooting or they would of posted something up about it. Do we have an estimate of how much it would cost to get the bins?

aim2shu
10-15-2013, 7:32 AM
I think they don't know what's going on at the property. If the clean up is still going on I'm still in and with a long bed truck if someone has a trailer and truck I can pull it :).

bako88fan
10-16-2013, 8:59 PM
I'm pretty sure the state agencies aren't aware of what's going on. The oil company might know. There hasn't ever been a well drilled on this property.

We can't even pay to have bins dropped there because we don't own the land and the County of Kern can accept liability during cleanup. I don't blame KC at all.

I guess the best we can do is fly under the radar, pack out what we can per truck per visit and leave it at that. I don't want to get the site shut down.

I'd be up for doing an organized cleanup day like I originally proposed without county support. We would all be responsible for disposing whatever we loaded up. We could grab all of the targets we could find that were left and make the look a lot cleaner.

I'm guessing a Saturday would work better than Sunday so no one misses church. Would next Saturday Oct 26 be too little notice? I don't have Facebook. Would someone be willing to spread the word that way? I can let our LGS's know.

Slim///
10-17-2013, 3:35 PM
Thay sounds good to me. I had already spread the word on facebbook and seems like a good number of people were interested

musick
10-17-2013, 5:36 PM
...I'd be up for doing an organized cleanup day like I originally proposed without county support. We would all be responsible for disposing whatever we loaded up. We could grab all of the targets we could find that were left and make the look a lot cleaner...

As one who hosts cleans on BLM land, I think this might be your best bet.

Start with the big stuff and try to keep hitting it bi-monthly. If its really bad, I hope you get 10 (or more) individuals with trucks to haul the stuff out. Even if its just a few of you, do what you can.

Most people are more inclined to pick up after themselves if a site is clean. Good luck.

K.hosey9
10-17-2013, 6:50 PM
So it looks like shooting here is Illegal, and if caught shooting here you could get in big trouble.

bako88fan
10-18-2013, 11:54 PM
Well, the problem is all kinds of people shoot in this location, LEO included.

bako88fan
10-22-2013, 7:30 AM
This Saturday, October 26 at 7 am, I will be out to clean up. Please feel free to join in. I will have rakes, bags, shovels my truck to haul stuff out in. Two coolers with water and assorted sodas.

We will need more trucks, rakes, shovels and PEOPLE.

Let's end the cleanup by noon so that we can shoot some, too. Maybe we show some of the shooters out there how to clean up their targets and respect our shooting spaces.

I don't have Facebook. Can someone spread the word there, too?

WHO CAN WE COUNT ON?

bako88fan
10-24-2013, 9:08 AM
Bumping this thread. Kern County shooters unite!

We need unity!

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:-P

Slim///
10-25-2013, 1:29 AM
So I'm assuming this is still going on?

bako88fan
10-25-2013, 11:42 AM
Yes sir. Let's do this! For anyone coming, please bring shovels and rakes. I will bring all I have but I couldn't get a rental company to donate any.

aim2shu
10-26-2013, 6:46 AM
be there in a couple min I just saw this.

Eat Dirt
10-26-2013, 6:55 AM
Please post some " Before "
And " After " pictures

Way to go guys !!

bako88fan
10-26-2013, 5:06 PM
We had a good turnout for the first try and a great group of people. Getting 14 people to commit a Saturday to cleaning is other people's mess is extraordinary. Thanks to everyone, including CGers Aim2Shu, Slim/// and Mirage for coming out and making a dent in this trashed site. I wasn't joking when I said the Kern County WM rep called this site the worst illegal dumping area in Kern County.

On to some pictures. Before the cleanup:

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/jeremy_meadors/20131026_072800.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/jeremy_meadors/20131026_072833.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/jeremy_meadors/20131026_085223.jpg
Yep, that's the hood of a Honda civic.

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/jeremy_meadors/20131026_105109.jpg

bako88fan
10-26-2013, 5:09 PM
And the after pictures

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/jeremy_meadors/20131026_124912.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/jeremy_meadors/20131026_124910.jpg

http://i130.photobucket.com/albums/p258/jeremy_meadors/20131026_124907.jpg
This was the third windshield that we found out there.

The guys and I discussed it and we think it may be a good idea to make this a regular thing. After the new year, maybe once a month for an informal CG get together where we each pack out a truck bed full of garbage per trip. That'll start to make some noticeable change.

Zedrek
10-26-2013, 6:39 PM
Good job guys! I wish I could of made it but I have a sinus infection and felt like crap. I just recently got weekends off at work and would be happy to help out.

peopleofthesun
10-26-2013, 7:35 PM
Good job guys! Keep it up.

-Cisco

Slim///
10-27-2013, 11:11 AM
Hopefully people keep it that way. Thanks again for setting it up

aim2shu
10-28-2013, 12:53 PM
The before pics look like they were taken after I took off with a truck load.

bako88fan
10-29-2013, 9:31 AM
They might have been although Michelle got some really good pictures, too. I will get them off her phone to photo bucket and post some more. Where did you end up taking the cardboard?

Thanks again for everyone's help. Let's do it again after new years!

Mirage
10-29-2013, 4:25 PM
I don't know if the pictures will do the job justice. I was very impressed with the change, and I didn't even get there till 9:00, so I didn't get to see what it looked like before you started. I was quite impressed with the results I did see though.
I don't think the pictures will show the shells, cases, wads, pieces of clay pigeons, and just random shot up debris covering every square inch of ground.
Ya just had to be there.

aim2shu
10-30-2013, 9:25 AM
I took it to the landfill before Taft on Elk Hills.

bako88fan
10-30-2013, 11:53 AM
Did you have to pay?

Slim///
10-31-2013, 4:25 AM
They didn't charge me at the taft location. Didnt feel like hauling the trash all the way back to Bakersfield

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aim2shu
10-31-2013, 4:37 AM
I was asked to but after I told the guy our cause he gave me a freebie :)

bako88fan
10-31-2013, 8:32 AM
Ok guys thanks. I got worried they might be charging and I was going to kick you guys some cash to offset that. I wouldn't feel right if you guys were hit with unexpected charges.

mekanick
11-12-2013, 7:32 PM
Subscribed for info on next clean up. I dont have a pickup but I can sure lend a hand

bako88fan
11-12-2013, 7:43 PM
We would love to have you. Thanks for tagging the thread. Due to the holidays, we're thinking early January.

bigaj2
11-12-2013, 9:10 PM
I'd like to help on the next one also.

bako88fan
11-13-2013, 2:00 PM
Awesome thanks for everyone throwing their hat in to help.

The next project out there is going to require some trucks. We talked about taking the thousands of tires out there and creating a berm along the far end road. That will allow for a safe backstop. It will allow for us to recycle the tires that we can't find a way to dispose of. We will need guys with trucks (I have one) to help out with moving the tires to where they go and then those without trucks can help move and stack to create the berm.

aim2shu
11-14-2013, 2:57 PM
This ^ is an awesome idea.

IDOXLR8
11-21-2013, 8:37 AM
Tagged for future updates.

I shoot there during the week, and can help pretty much anytime
if my schedule works out to do so.

reichertc2013
11-21-2013, 9:45 PM
I am new to owning fire arms and I stumbled upon this topic about our local shooting site. You guy did a great job with the cleanup, when I start using this site I will make sure I do my part in keeping area clean, hope to meet some of you in the near future!


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bako88fan
11-21-2013, 10:04 PM
Thanks! If you've got a pickup, please take a rake, shovel and some bags to pack out extra trash. I packed out a load with me on Sunday. I'll be there again this weekend shooting my new AR.

MikeL.
12-06-2013, 7:44 AM
Just signed up today bako88fan!

Awesome, awesome work!

Count me in for any future work. Was out there just two days ago and it is disgusting.

I thought seriously about putting up a sign that states, take home what you brought out on the bridge.

I am astonished how unsafe shooters can be out there shooting into multiple directions. Shooting towards the aqueduct even. There are literally a dozen vehicles a day, week and weekend driving that road on the aqueduct down range less than a 1/4 mile. WAY UNSAFE.

With all the ditch banks, and mounds there is no reason to shoot high caliber into the aqueduct.

I walked to that new building and it had 3 bullets stuck into the cinder blocks already!


I have a bit of knowledge about the property owners. The state agencies do KNOW about it and are at this point letting it slide, I'm sure the oil company cares, but have no interest in the property so there is no one paying attention to it. {granted the oil property issue is only a guess of mine}.

I was shocked to see how bad the site is, 5 years ago it was clean. I have seen F&G stalk that site, initially trying to bust people. One told me without trespassing signs, without improvement, they cant do anything. Which leads me to believe they have given up.

Count me in next trip out! And I have a Kyle Busch hat I'll give ya, get ya used to being with a winner again! LOL

Alpha Male
12-06-2013, 11:05 AM
hey, nice work. I am from san diego and always pack out more than what I bring in. What are your thoughts on creating a sign that says pick up your casings and trash or the place will be shut down? Sadly, I feel there are lots of childish adults who would simply shoot the sign and continue littering. Thankfully, our ranger down here Mr. Funk hands out hefty fines to straight asshats and gives verbal warnings to those the first time around allowing them to clean up while gaining an earful of information.

reichertc2013
12-06-2013, 12:13 PM
Just signed up today bako88fan!

Awesome, awesome work!

Count me in for any future work. Was out there just two days ago and it is disgusting.

I thought seriously about putting up a sign that states, take home what you brought out on the bridge.

I am astonished how unsafe shooters can be out there shooting into multiple directions. Shooting towards the aqueduct even. There are literally a dozen vehicles a day, week and weekend driving that road on the aqueduct down range less than a 1/4 mile. WAY UNSAFE.

With all the ditch banks, and mounds there is no reason to shoot high caliber into the aqueduct.

I walked to that new building and it had 3 bullets stuck into the cinder blocks already!


I have a bit of knowledge about the property owners. The state agencies do KNOW about it and are at this point letting it slide, I'm sure the oil company cares, but have no interest in the property so there is no one paying attention to it. {granted the oil property issue is only a guess of mine}.

I was shocked to see how bad the site is, 5 years ago it was clean. I have seen F&G stalk that site, initially trying to bust people. One told me without trespassing signs, without improvement, they cant do anything. Which leads me to believe they have given up.

Count me in next trip out! And I have a Kyle Busch hat I'll give ya, get ya used to being with a winner again! LOL

Welcome!


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bako88fan
12-06-2013, 5:27 PM
Just signed up today bako88fan!

Awesome, awesome work!

Count me in for any future work. Was out there just two days ago and it is disgusting.

I thought seriously about putting up a sign that states, take home what you brought out on the bridge.

I am astonished how unsafe shooters can be out there shooting into multiple directions. Shooting towards the aqueduct even. There are literally a dozen vehicles a day, week and weekend driving that road on the aqueduct down range less than a 1/4 mile. WAY UNSAFE.

With all the ditch banks, and mounds there is no reason to shoot high caliber into the aqueduct.

I walked to that new building and it had 3 bullets stuck into the cinder blocks already!


I have a bit of knowledge about the property owners. The state agencies do KNOW about it and are at this point letting it slide, I'm sure the oil company cares, but have no interest in the property so there is no one paying attention to it. {granted the oil property issue is only a guess of mine}.

I was shocked to see how bad the site is, 5 years ago it was clean. I have seen F&G stalk that site, initially trying to bust people. One told me without trespassing signs, without improvement, they cant do anything. Which leads me to believe they have given up.

Count me in next trip out! And I have a Kyle Busch hat I'll give ya, get ya used to being with a winner again! LOL

Thanks, Mike. I'm glad to see you feel as I do. It's disgusting how people treat our land. I am trying to finalize a date and spread the word. I should know by next week when I'm available. Then hopefully we can coordinate with everyone's schedule.
As for the 18, that hat would make a great TARGET on my next range trip! ;-)

bako88fan
12-06-2013, 5:29 PM
hey, nice work. I am from san diego and always pack out more than what I bring in. What are your thoughts on creating a sign that says pick up your casings and trash or the place will be shut down? Sadly, I feel there are lots of childish adults who would simply shoot the sign and continue littering. Thankfully, our ranger down here Mr. Funk hands out hefty fines to straight asshats and gives verbal warnings to those the first time around allowing them to clean up while gaining an earful of information.

Hi Alpha. I contemplated the sign and thought the same thing. The idiots out there will some shoot at it. They often shoot directly from the road. In fact, I've seen so much unsafe shooting out there that I often wear a hi viz safety vest so that people pay attention and don't fire our direction.

IDOXLR8
12-06-2013, 5:33 PM
the "new" thing I have encountered out there
is people driving out to fish on the aqueduct
directly south of Al Qaeda bridge.

I have been out shooting, and they drove out
there and set up fishing without paying any attention
to me.

I have talked to them, and let them know its not the
most safe fishing spot on the aqueduct, and now they
fish closer to Tupman road

MikeL.
12-07-2013, 8:20 AM
the "new" thing I have encountered out there
is people driving out to fish on the aqueduct
directly south of Al Qaeda bridge.

I have been out shooting, and they drove out
there and set up fishing without paying any attention
to me.

I have talked to them, and let them know its not the
most safe fishing spot on the aqueduct, and now they
fish closer to Tupman road

I still feel shooting towards the aqueduct is unsafe regardless of fisherman or not.

Aqueduct empolyees routinely travel that span you talk of, multiple times a day.

Fisherman present or not, the fact that duct employees access that should make it off limits making the duct down range.


All this is going to change shortly anyhow when the Hydrogen plant gets its construction phase started. Tupman range is destined to be shut down anyway, regardless of trash or not

IDOXLR8
12-07-2013, 8:23 AM
Where is the Hydro plant going to be built at?

MikeL.
12-07-2013, 8:27 AM
Right at the site! The owner of the palm trees sold the land for that big Hydrogen plant.

That new building at the duct and subsequent pipeline put in this summer is for water service for the plant.

http://www.bakersfieldcalifornian.com/business/oil/x607077947/State-federal-officials-Hydrogen-energy-plant-has-unresolved-issues

reichertc2013
12-08-2013, 8:26 AM
Ok so I have yet to get to the shooting site so my knowledge on the exact location and history of the area is not perfect but after studying the BLM area map I saw this new area of land that might be a possible new location but any help for this area is welcome.

Link to maps...http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/bakersfield/planning/prmp_feis2012.Par.7636.File.dat/
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/09/2ydapuje.jpg
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MikeL.
12-10-2013, 6:46 AM
I have seen that spot, I did not research it first hand simply because of proximity to elk hills. I also think every road leading into it is locked

Your pictures are very blurry.

I could be wrong, but I really have fears the proximity to elk hills and OXY just to the west of there only a few miles would be an issue.

Wish some Oil field buds could chime in on that land.

My first reaction is that I would hate for the A holes to ruin two pieces of land with trash and debris.

reichertc2013
12-13-2013, 5:57 AM
Hey I'll be at the site today with brother n law about 430-5ish. If anyone is goin to be there please PM me and we can all tie in and meet then... See you all soon..


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CJJohn
12-13-2013, 6:23 AM
I have seen that spot, I did not research it first hand simply because of proximity to elk hills. I also think every road leading into it is locked

Your pictures are very blurry.

I could be wrong, but I really have fears the proximity to elk hills and OXY just to the west of there only a few miles would be an issue.

Wish some Oil field buds could chime in on that land.

My first reaction is that I would hate for the A holes to ruin two pieces of land with trash and debris.

The land just west is the Naval reserve, but still need to be diligent. I go here and shoot clays and rimfire a lot. There is a canal where I will shoot pistol sometimes. I always leave with more than I went in with. It's amazing what a-holes will leave laying around. :mad:

reichertc2013
12-13-2013, 9:30 PM
Well I went to the site today, there was one other group there... I can't believe how much trash and tires are out there, we defiantly need to get that place cleaned up. A little at a time is better than nothing, keep it up all. Got to shoot my new 1911 and ar15 along with brother n laws inventory. Defiantly goin to plan another trip out there soon... If I can convince the wife to let me go again tomorrow I'll probably go again about 1300-1600

http://i43.tinypic.com/311v0h2.jpg

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reichertc2013
12-15-2013, 7:55 PM
Day 2 of the site... http://i44.tinypic.com/2liartk.jpg


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reichertc2013
01-05-2014, 10:44 AM
This post is dying.


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bako88fan
01-05-2014, 12:16 PM
Because of my schedule, I won't be able to organize anything till mid Feb.

Gotta be honest, I took my son out shooting In Tupman on Christmas day and it looks like we never cleaned. There's so many irresponsible shooters out there that it's pretty discouraging.

I've said it before, I can't imagine what some of these shooters homes look like.

IDOXLR8
01-05-2014, 12:31 PM
I agree with above.

I cannot believe at the simplest decency of not even picking
up their empty ammo boxes they throw out all over as well.
Just that simple thing will help alot.

And then now, all the glass people are shooting out there is
ridiculous! Its one thing if people where shooting it down range
(not that its really better) but they are shooting in the areas
were you drive thru.

amazing

reichertc2013
01-05-2014, 1:22 PM
R u serious about the glass?! I've only been out there 2 times and I took 2 milk crates of trash out, drove a car so wasn't much I could hull out but still the glass is sad


Sent from a dark unknown place....

IDOXLR8
01-05-2014, 1:30 PM
yep Reichert, it appears from your pics you guys are shooting
right at the area by the bridge you cross over.

If you turn right once over the bridge and drive towards
the big mound of dirt, you will find the glass debri field, or rather
should "avoid" the glass debri field.

Down towards the dirt pile, there is another access road
down thru the ditch that you can drive thru with a truck.

People have set up bottles at the top of this access road
and shot them there as well :mad: I mean come, have
some sense

bomb_on_bus
05-05-2014, 1:40 PM
I was out there shooting over the last couple of weekends and it was a mess.

At least 2 dozen trires and at least a few cubic yards worth of waste. I'm down for cleaning up the place and have a truck for clean up. But it would take a whole heck of a lot more than that to clean the place up.

I have noticed the last time I was there at least a dozen groups of people out there shooting the place up.

With the weather the way it is now would be a good time to get a few calguns members out there to clean up the place before the heat sets in for the summer

IDOXLR8
05-05-2014, 1:43 PM
Its becoming more of a war zone rather than a shooting range.

tires, TV's, 5 gallon buckets of oil, trash, trash and more trash.

Its hard to tell where the drive areas are VS shooting areas

bako88fan
06-09-2014, 7:39 PM
Well it's over. The Tupman spot was shut down by the state on Saturday. Locking gates have been installed at all the access points. This spot is shut down due to the irresponsible behavior of too many shooters.

IDOXLR8
06-09-2014, 8:53 PM
Bako... so the gates and locks are from the State, and they are the
ones for sure who shut it down? I ask as that was the info
I was trying to find out for sure as well.

I went out a cple weeks ago, saw the posts, last week the gates
where started.

I went out today to see, and they where locked up.

It sucks as you say about irresponsible behavior of too many shooters.

It has become a warzone out there, and just trying to keep up with
minimal cleanup of stuff myself and others, I knew it was going
to be a done deal soon.

unbelievable now these clowns will just go shoot up some other
place. Now I understand why areas are so secret now because of these
people.

AYRborneRN87
06-09-2014, 9:03 PM
New to CG.... great deed folks. Cleaning up is a good thing. No mess from BLM when they see there is a sincere effort to appreciate the land access and use.

Kyuu
07-28-2014, 12:15 AM
I've only somewhat recently gotten into shooting, and am interested in BLM shooting in the Bakersfield area. Since the Tupman "range" has been shut down due to goddamn irresponsible asshats, is there anywhere else in the area we can go?

I find it difficult to get anyone I know to go out with me on range trips, so I'd be quite glad to have a Calgunner group to go with, if anyone goes to a spot regularly. I don't have a truck, but I'd be more than glad to volunteer my time and labor to help with any needed cleanup.

44fred
07-28-2014, 2:01 PM
A friend of mine owned that property at the end of Dairy Rd. On your left before the large canal. We were allowed to shoot there whenever we wanted. Property was sold to that hydrogen company for a new plant so it's no longer an option.
I'm fairly new to Bakersfield so don't know of places close by that would allow us to shoot.
I really, really don't like organized ranges. I dislike boneheads going to public shooting areas even more.

juanl1999
08-06-2014, 5:33 PM
New to Calguns net. Got to say it sucks that the Tupman area was closed. Drove by and the gates were there and passed by again recently and it had this sign on the gate now.

This is the gate that's close to the bridge
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/jlopez1980/Tupman%20Gate/2EE1EDF2-02DD-464B-8362-05ECF2BC3E92.jpg

This is the other two gates down the road
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/jlopez1980/Tupman%20Gate/80BAC359-929A-4B25-93E7-3CE7001372EA.jpg

I liked the Tupman area because it wasn't too far from Bakersfield, maybe 30 minutes from my house. It was just fun being able to go out and shoot for free and take my family and make a day of it.

I heard from a friend of a friend that the area was leased for gas or oil exploration so they had to put up the gates to secure the area. But that's just hear say.

If anyone has a spot they like PM me. I would really appreciate it. Like setting up paper targets to shoot my Ruger 10/22 and Glock 17. And of course clean up the area afterwards.

whiskerdoo
08-08-2014, 5:31 PM
New to Calguns net. Got to say it sucks that the Tupman area was closed. Drove by and the gates were there and passed by again recently and it had this sign on the gate now.

This is the gate that's close to the bridge
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/jlopez1980/Tupman%20Gate/2EE1EDF2-02DD-464B-8362-05ECF2BC3E92.jpg

This is the other two gates down the road
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/jlopez1980/Tupman%20Gate/80BAC359-929A-4B25-93E7-3CE7001372EA.jpg

I liked the Tupman area because it wasn't too far from Bakersfield, maybe 30 minutes from my house. It was just fun being able to go out and shoot for free and take my family and make a day of it.

I heard from a friend of a friend that the area was leased for gas or oil exploration so they had to put up the gates to secure the area. But that's just hear say.

If anyone has a spot they like PM me. I would really appreciate it. Like setting up paper targets to shoot my Ruger 10/22 and Glock 17. And of course clean up the area afterwards.

welcome to Calguns

juanl1999
08-13-2014, 10:06 PM
So I found maps on the BLM website. I found a map for the Carrizo Plain National Monument. Here is the link.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/bakersfield/carrizo.Par.18885.File.dat/cpnm_visitor_access_map.pdf

The other cool thing is that I found a Google Earth file that shows you exactly where BLM land is. I compared it to the Carrizo Plain National Monument Map and it looks like they match up. What I like about this is that in Google Earth you can zoom in and see if these the area is pretty clear before making the drive out to the location. This is pretty helpful to me because I have a sports car so I don't have much clearance. So I can see on Google Earth is there are semi decent dirt roads at the location. Here is the link to that file. This is pretty helpful since it shows me areas close to Bakersfield.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/bakersfield/planning/prmp_feis2012.Par.17936.File.dat/BAKO_BLM_Land%20Status.kmz

Remember you need Google Earth, and that's free and an easy download. Hope this helps someone.

Zedrek
08-14-2014, 3:44 PM
Unfortunately you are not allowed to shoot in that area. Weapons: Recreational target shooting is prohibited within the entire monument. Public lands within 1/4 mile of any campground, Painted Rock, facility (including the Washburn, Saucito, and MU ranch headquarters), developed overlooks, interpretive sites or pullouts, are closed to the discharge of firearms. Use of replica weapons (such as paintball, airsoft, or war game apparatus is not allowed on the monument. In addition, there is a No Shooting Zone established/marked around Painted Rock and the Goodwin Education Center.
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/bakersfield/Programs/carrizo/things_to_know_before.html

So I found maps on the BLM website. I found a map for the Carrizo Plain National Monument. Here is the link.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/bakersfield/carrizo.Par.18885.File.dat/cpnm_visitor_access_map.pdf

The other cool thing is that I found a Google Earth file that shows you exactly where BLM land is. I compared it to the Carrizo Plain National Monument Map and it looks like they match up. What I like about this is that in Google Earth you can zoom in and see if these the area is pretty clear before making the drive out to the location. This is pretty helpful to me because I have a sports car so I don't have much clearance. So I can see on Google Earth is there are semi decent dirt roads at the location. Here is the link to that file. This is pretty helpful since it shows me areas close to Bakersfield.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/bakersfield/planning/prmp_feis2012.Par.17936.File.dat/BAKO_BLM_Land%20Status.kmz

Remember you need Google Earth, and that's free and an easy download. Hope this helps someone.

Kyuu
08-14-2014, 9:24 PM
On that map there is some BLM land that lies outside the borders of Carrizo Plain National Monument. Specifically I'm looking at the land to the west/southwest of Maricopa. I wonder if any of that area would be suitable/legal for BLM shooting?

juanl1999
08-15-2014, 11:09 AM
Oh what I meant to say is that comparing the Carrizo Plain National Monument map to the Google Earth file they seem to match. But you're right, there is no shooting in Carrizo Plain allowed. I was referring to the areas outside of Carrizo that are BLM. On the Google Earth file Carrizo is conveniently referred to in a blue color while BLM land is in yellow.

Unfortunately you are not allowed to shoot in that area.
http://www.blm.gov/ca/st/en/fo/bakersfield/Programs/carrizo/things_to_know_before.html

SRCBFL
09-05-2014, 3:24 AM
So I found maps on the BLM website. I found a map for the Carrizo Plain National Monument. Here is the link.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/bakersfield/carrizo.Par.18885.File.dat/cpnm_visitor_access_map.pdf

The other cool thing is that I found a Google Earth file that shows you exactly where BLM land is. I compared it to the Carrizo Plain National Monument Map and it looks like they match up. What I like about this is that in Google Earth you can zoom in and see if these the area is pretty clear before making the drive out to the location. This is pretty helpful to me because I have a sports car so I don't have much clearance. So I can see on Google Earth is there are semi decent dirt roads at the location. Here is the link to that file. This is pretty helpful since it shows me areas close to Bakersfield.

http://www.blm.gov/pgdata/etc/medialib/blm/ca/pdf/bakersfield/planning/prmp_feis2012.Par.17936.File.dat/BAKO_BLM_Land%20Status.kmz

Remember you need Google Earth, and that's free and an easy download. Hope this helps someone.

I downloaded Google Earth and opened the file (Super useful!) and found a spot that's some ways up along the river from where the Tule Elk Reserve spot was, it's around 35.340299,-119.51623

There appears to be some dirt mounds perpendicular to the dirt road, and they're within the yellow square that's supposed to be BLM. I wonder if they're high enough to serve as a good backdrop.

juanl1999
10-27-2014, 11:21 AM
That looks like a pretty good spot. Have you had the chance to go out there and shoot? I might go in a week or two.

I downloaded Google Earth and opened the file (Super useful!) and found a spot that's some ways up along the river from where the Tule Elk Reserve spot was, it's around 35.340299,-119.51623

There appears to be some dirt mounds perpendicular to the dirt road, and they're within the yellow square that's supposed to be BLM. I wonder if they're high enough to serve as a good backdrop.

juanl1999
10-30-2014, 9:38 PM
I downloaded Google Earth and opened the file (Super useful!) and found a spot that's some ways up along the river from where the Tule Elk Reserve spot was, it's around 35.340299,-119.51623

There appears to be some dirt mounds perpendicular to the dirt road, and they're within the yellow square that's supposed to be BLM. I wonder if they're high enough to serve as a good backdrop.

So I was able to drive to the area but it is gated off. Has No Trespassing signs and the gate is locked. Some other signs look like Oxy owns the property. I happened to be passing by and thought I would take a look before loading up my car with my guns and be disappointed. Any other locations that someone can share would be appreciated.

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/jlopez1980/Tupman%20Gate/IMG_0382.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/jlopez1980/Tupman%20Gate/IMG_0383.jpg

Oxy sign. Sorry it's not clearer.
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a324/jlopez1980/Tupman%20Gate/IMG_0385.jpg

bomb_on_bus
11-09-2014, 3:07 PM
Went to tupman and sure enough closed off. Fish and game warden was out chasing people off.

Drove out to a place I knew about out past buttonwillow and the same thing.

So begrudgingly we drove out to 5dogs.

Anyone have a shooting spot they want to share? Shoot me a PM.