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Timberwolf
08-30-2007, 3:30 PM
I'm going to run over to APS this weekend and P/U some of my steel targets, bases, frames, backers etc for next weekend.

What do we need, what is everyone else bringing?

wildcard
08-30-2007, 4:08 PM
Wish I had something to contribute to that effect.. but all i'm bringing is probably a stand for paper.. and a bowling pin :(

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 4:12 PM
i have two paper targets that will be set up, and one small 6-8inch steel target that rk hooked up for me.

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 4:14 PM
Wish I had something to contribute to that effect.. but all i'm bringing is probably a stand for paper.. and a bowling pin :(

don't worry, i'll probably buy a bag of small potatoes for us. bring your spray paint, we'll need it.

wildcard
08-30-2007, 4:21 PM
don't worry, i'll probably buy a bag of small potatoes for us. bring your spray paint, we'll need it.

Those are a given! I just don't have any "durable" targets. I wouldn't be opposed to picking up some needed materials or contributing funds if needed though!

rksimple
08-30-2007, 4:54 PM
I'll have a 2/3 size IPSC steel target as well as a 10 inch circle. Theres another circle already out there. I have some 10"x18" or so pieces of steel that I need to mount up. I'll try to do it this weekend. Work has been crazy lately!

Timberwolf
08-30-2007, 4:57 PM
I've got a 3" resetting plate, 2 mini poppers, 6" plate, 8" plate, a mini maiden (remember the guy on the hill); 3 steel bases, 4 jammit bases; 4 bird boards for jammit (they hold 9 clay birds each), 4 backers for jammit; plus sticks and cardboard for steel bases (ala APS - my bases are similar except they're armored and stick into the ground). This is stuff I've accumualted to use at the matches I run. What do we need?

Mute
08-30-2007, 5:15 PM
I suggest some appropriate paper targets for zeroing since not everyone may have their rifles zeroed yet.

Timberwolf
08-30-2007, 6:14 PM
Paper is coverd

Prc329
08-30-2007, 6:46 PM
http://www.midwayusa.com/eproductpage.exe/showproduct?saleitemid=841349

I got one of these yesterday.

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 6:53 PM
I've got a 3" resetting plate, 2 mini poppers, 6" plate, 8" plate, a mini maiden (remember the guy on the hill); 3 steel bases, 4 jammit bases; 4 bird boards for jammit (they hold 9 clay birds each), 4 backers for jammit; plus sticks and cardboard for steel bases (ala APS - my bases are similar except they're armored and stick into the ground). This is stuff I've accumualted to use at the matches I run. What do we need?

anything you can stick in your truck without too much drama.

Mute
08-30-2007, 7:44 PM
Here's another suggestion. I'm not sure if you'll get this far, but, helium balloons. It's good for duplicating the erratic movement of a live person. Even at 100 yards these can be a challenge to shoot.

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 7:58 PM
Here's another suggestion. I'm not sure if you'll get this far, but, helium balloons. It's good for duplicating the erratic movement of a live person. Even at 100 yards these can be a challenge to shoot.


helium sounds good, but you gotta move that back a little to more like 400yards at least. a helium baloon is like a 10inch target even though it will have some movement.

Mute
08-30-2007, 8:05 PM
helium sounds good, but you gotta move that back a little to more like 400yards at least. a helium baloon is like a 10inch target even though it will have some movement.

Only blow them up to about the size of a human head. That shouldn't be much wider than about 8 inches max (I know, I know, some calgunners have much bigger heads than that :D). In a sporadic 5 mph wind, you'd be surprised how much that balloon moves around.

Timberwolf
08-30-2007, 9:27 PM
OK well I'll load up the steel & bases etc and a couple of bird boards etc. What we use we use and what we don't we don't. Do we need birds? I've got bio birds at APS (I think I still have a case of midis stashed for the matches if we need them) I know Ryan has a Mini IPSC similar to my mini maiden do I need to bring it?

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 9:32 PM
OK well I'll load up the steel & bases etc and a couple of bird boards etc. What we use we use and what we don't we don't. Do we need birds? I've got bio birds at APS (I think I still have a case of midis stashed for the matches if we need them) I know Ryan has a Mini IPSC similar to my mini maiden do I need to bring it?

one of those should be plenty good. if ryan brings his we should be good, and we have a spot that is perfect for the 800yard shot. you can bring birds if you want that is up to you. whatever you want to shoot is fine. the aps stuff is biodegradable so it's all good.

what would be nice are small steel plates, the circular kind that is about 8inches or so. we can probably take those to around the 900yard mark, mayby more.

rksimple
08-30-2007, 9:42 PM
OK well I'll load up the steel & bases etc and a couple of bird boards etc. What we use we use and what we don't we don't. Do we need birds? I've got bio birds at APS (I think I still have a case of midis stashed for the matches if we need them) I know Ryan has a Mini IPSC similar to my mini maiden do I need to bring it?

Mine has a tube along the top to put a chain through. It may or may not work on a stand. We hung it on a barbed wire t-post last time and it did OK. Its 25"x15". I have another one thats 17"x10" but it has a hole in it to hang on a bolt or something. I'll see what I can do about some stands that will work.

rksimple
08-30-2007, 9:45 PM
what would be nice are small steel plates, the circular kind that is about 8inches or so. we can probably take those to around the 900yard mark, mayby more.

The one we left out there is 10 inches. We could take those circles and put them a little off to the right by the rocks. We may get a little more range that way.

Timberwolf
08-30-2007, 9:51 PM
My maiden is the mount on post with a bolt type and I can get a couple of bases for them if needed. My plates use 2x2 posts which I have as well as the bases. Hell half the time at APS I just pound the post into the ground a foot or so. I also have an 8" and 10" that are swingers with thier own base.

How flat is the "range area"?

I'm almost ready to suggest the three of us get together on the phone manana so this thread doesn't go on forever.

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 9:54 PM
The one we left out there is 10 inches. We could take those circles and put them a little off to the right by the rocks. We may get a little more range that way.


that was exactly what i was thinking. up the hill toward those big boulders.

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 9:57 PM
My maiden is the mount on post with a bolt type and I can get a couple of bases for them if needed. My plates use 2x2 posts which I have as well as the bases. Hell half the time at APS I just pound the post into the ground a foot or so. I also have an 8" and 10" that are swingers with thier own base.

How flat is the "range area"?

I'm almost ready to suggest the three of us get together on the phone manana so this thread doesn't go on forever.

pretty flat for about 300 yards or so, then it goes uphill at around 10 degrees or so till 800yards. then there is this crazy hill that goes extremly high like the APS mountains in the back to i'm thinking a 1000yards. we can shoot in two directions which is completely safe.

if you really wanted to go competely nuts, there is this valley which is actually state property behind my dad's place that you can shoot like 1700yards or so, but i don't think anyone could shoot that far. it would be totally nutz though if someone could.

rksimple
08-30-2007, 9:59 PM
My maiden is the mount on post with a bolt type and I can get a couple of bases for them if needed. My plates use 2x2 posts which I have as well as the bases. Hell half the time at APS I just pound the post into the ground a foot or so. I also have an 8" and 10" that are swingers with thier own base.

How flat is the "range area"?

I'm almost ready to suggest the three of us get together on the phone manana so this thread doesn't go on forever.

I think an extra stand would work well for that smaller target I have. We can put the bigger one where we had it last time as it worked out well enough.

The range area should be flat enough to get the targets upright. Its on a slight incline so out to 850 yards or so, there is a good backstop.

Timberwolf
08-30-2007, 10:12 PM
if you really wanted to go competely nuts, there is this valley which is actually state property behind my dad's place that you can shoot like 1700yards or so, but i don't think anyone could shoot that far. it would be totally nutz though if someone could.

well I do know someone with a .408 Chey Tac and someone else with a .338 Lapua . . . hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . that'll be another time

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 10:21 PM
well I do know someone with a .408 Chey Tac and someone else with a .338 Lapua . . . hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . that'll be another time

oh no, don't get me started on a .338 lupua that is one gangsta rifle! will a .300 winmag go that far?

Timberwolf
08-30-2007, 10:46 PM
A .308 will go out to about 1100 - 1200, a 300 winmag 1200 - 1300

I want a .408 Chey Tac, it holds the record of 19" group at a little over 2300 yards. I need that rifle . . .

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 11:05 PM
A .308 will go out to about 1100 - 1200, a 300 winmag 1200 - 1300

I want a .408 Chey Tac, it holds the record of 19" group at a little over 2300 yards. I need that rifle . . .

that sounds insane. :)

that also sounds really,really, really expensive.

Prc329
08-30-2007, 11:09 PM
I've been planning what I would build for a 338. That would need one hell of a brake not to destroy my shoulder.

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 11:14 PM
I've been planning what I would build for a 338. That would need one hell of a brake not to destroy my shoulder.

when you build one, you got to let me fire a shot. man that would be awesome!

Prc329
08-30-2007, 11:26 PM
This looks interesting

http://www.savagearms.com/2007_pressrelease.htm

http://www.savagearms.com/images/12F-Class-Target-Rifle.jpg

# Laminated flat bottomed stock with extra-wide ventilated forend
# Target AccuTrigger adjustable from 6 oz. to 2 lbs
# Right bolt, right port short action receiver
# Smaller ejection port for extra rigidity
# 30" Extra-heavy stainless barrel
# Chambered in 6.5 X 284 NORMA

Not something I would get anytime soon (if ever) but very interesting rifle.

PistolPete75
08-30-2007, 11:37 PM
This looks interesting

http://www.savagearms.com/2007_pressrelease.htm

http://www.savagearms.com/images/12F-Class-Target-Rifle.jpg

# Laminated flat bottomed stock with extra-wide ventilated forend
# Target AccuTrigger adjustable from 6 oz. to 2 lbs
# Right bolt, right port short action receiver
# Smaller ejection port for extra rigidity
# 30" Extra-heavy stainless barrel
# Chambered in 6.5 X 284 NORMA

Not something I would get anytime soon (if ever) but very interesting rifle.

rifle is nice, and i think the barrel is the best part of the rifle.

wildcard
08-31-2007, 8:54 AM
I know i'll say it again.. but I just want to thank everyone for volunteering their time, effort, and materials in putting all this togther. It's much appreciated.

proraptor
08-31-2007, 9:06 AM
rifle is nice, and i think the barrel is the best part of the rifle.
actually the coolest part about that rifle is the action and the new target trigger....I've been thinking of building one of those up as savage sells just the action for like $400

Prc329
08-31-2007, 9:47 AM
Hey Pro, there is a guy over at Savage Shooters that sells just Savage Actions. They are pretty reasonable as well.

http://savageshooters.baker-media.com/SavageForum/index.php?board=64.0

Savage Model 10 - .378 (204/223) Bolt Face - Accu-Trigger - Blued - $295.00
Savage Model 10 - .473 (22-250/308) Bolt Face - Light Weight Varmint/Tactical Accu-Trigger - Black Matte Action and Bolt - $305.00

proraptor
08-31-2007, 9:51 AM
Hey Pro, there is a guy over at Savage Shooters that sells just Savage Actions. They are pretty reasonable as well.

http://savageshooters.baker-media.com/SavageForum/index.php?board=64.0

Savage Model 10 - .378 (204/223) Bolt Face - Accu-Trigger - Blued - $295.00
Savage Model 10 - .473 (22-250/308) Bolt Face - Light Weight Varmint/Tactical Accu-Trigger - Black Matte Action and Bolt - $305.00

I don't want the model 10 action though...if I was going to buid one up I'd want the new target action and trigger group....he sells them for around $400

Prc329
08-31-2007, 10:00 AM
$410 to be exact. Building an F class style rifle? I believe they are single load only.

proraptor
08-31-2007, 10:06 AM
yes single shot only but accurate as hell....not to mention that new target accutrigger is amazing....

Prc329
08-31-2007, 10:10 AM
That is what I heard, just the single shot thing turns me off. I normally single load but I like the option to mag load. I took the single shot follower out of my rifle a while ago.

I'm trying to figure out how to do a 338 lapua in a savage action.

proraptor
08-31-2007, 10:16 AM
if you can figur that out let me know....I'd also love to have a 338 lm or a 408 chey

Fjold
08-31-2007, 10:21 AM
I'm bringing a 12" square swinging gong

A light wood frame 2'X2' (or so) and a roll of paper and some different diameter printed bullseyes

Don't forget your staple guns!

rksimple
08-31-2007, 10:23 AM
I'm bringing a 12" square swinging gong

A light wood frame 2'X2' (or so) and a roll of paper and some different diameter printed bullseyes

Don't forget your staple guns!

Perfect! More steel!

PistolPete75
08-31-2007, 12:39 PM
this is going to be an awesome shoot!

Prc329
08-31-2007, 1:22 PM
I need to go by Ammo Bros, anyone need anything while I am there?

PistolPete75
08-31-2007, 1:51 PM
I need to go by Ammo Bros, anyone need anything while I am there?


i think you are the like best customer they have!

Prc329
08-31-2007, 2:12 PM
I gotta show off the new savage :D

PistolPete75
08-31-2007, 6:12 PM
this is to all the reloaders. post pics of your reloading benches. i'm trying to get some ideas for my new single stage press. i want in all in one bench to put my press, powder dispenser, trim prep kit, and some shelving or some sort of storage space for primer, powder, brass, etc.

Prc329
08-31-2007, 6:30 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=60355&highlight=workbench

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=60848&highlight=workbench

Hope that helps.

PistolPete75
08-31-2007, 6:35 PM
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=60355&highlight=workbench

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=60848&highlight=workbench

Hope that helps.

nice! when you buy lumber at lowes or home depot, you can get them to cut it for you right?

Prc329
08-31-2007, 6:49 PM
Usually.

Timberwolf
09-04-2007, 9:18 AM
Went to APS yesterday and picked up some of my steel and accessories I normally use in my matches.

That said I'll be bringing a 3" resetting plate, 6" & 8" plates, three all terain bases, sticks and cardboard for three or four backers for the bases (these will hold either paper or steel and are armored though I doubt anyone here will blast a stand), a 12"X24" mini-maiden with stand with extra hardware (that doesn't mean you can aim for the bolt head though), 1", 1.5", 2", 3", and 5.5" pasty targets (shoot & sees and orange) and misc paper targets including a couple of hostage type, etc. I'll also bring several cans of white and flor. orange paint to keet the steel fresh.

The only fly in the ointment is I have to work on Sunday (suppose to work the entire weekend but advised this is a PR trip hehehehe) so I will only be there for Saturday. I will try to get there before 0800 so I can get all set up before the class begins.

Se y'all there.

PistolPete75
09-04-2007, 9:36 AM
pm directions to all confirmed shooters. hey bill, can you give directions to bob? i called him, but it went to his voicmail and i never reached him. tnx! Peter

Timberwolf
09-04-2007, 9:47 AM
Sure I'll see him on Sunday. He wanted to come up for sat but big uh uh oh well

PistolPete75
09-04-2007, 9:48 AM
Sure I'll see him on Sunday. He wanted to come up for sat but big uh uh oh well


yep, someone has to cover right?

Timberwolf
09-04-2007, 10:10 AM
Yep plus 'tis the season for hunter safety classes, zeroing deer rifles yatta yatta yatta