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Standard
01-11-2013, 8:16 AM
I have a Service Grade Springfield Garand on the way from CMP - I also have an SKS in pretty decent shape.
I'm considering selling the SKS to get a "beater" Garand that fills basically the same role as the SKS. My last service grade (that I sold) was almost too nice - I was afraid to ding it :o
The SKS is my only x39 rifle, so it might make more sense to have another Garand so I have two that share ammo.
Any thoughts?
This is the SKS:
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c318/ZUMin3K/1357692456341.jpg

JAGGUY
01-11-2013, 8:31 AM
I got a Field grade SA a few years ago and it's really a nice shooter. Park was a little more worn than a service grade and the stock was worn but totally serviceable.
It was $495 + shipping then. Great deal!

pro-nra
01-11-2013, 8:33 AM
It would simplify your ammo logistics. IMO, another Garand would be better for you. I would think a decent FG Garand would be more accurate than a typical SKS.

If your M1 from the CMP arrives before the 19th, come out to the next Vintage Military Silhouette Match at Sac Valley. We always welcome new shooters. I guarantee you will have a blast.

bohoki
01-11-2013, 8:35 AM
a garand is kind of punishing to shoot an sks fairly pleasant

bohoki
01-11-2013, 8:36 AM
a garand is kind of punishing to shoot an sks fairly pleasant

Standard
01-11-2013, 8:45 AM
It would simplify your ammo logistics. IMO, another Garand would be better for you. I would think a decent FG Garand would be more accurate than a typical SKS.

If your M1 from the CMP arrives before the 19th, come out to the next Vintage Military Silhouette Match at Sac Valley. We always welcome new shooters. I guarantee you will have a blast.
Thanks for your opinion. I doubt my SG will come in before the 19th :(

a garand is kind of punishing to shoot an sks fairly pleasant

This is true, but I also have other guns, these won't be my only rifles.

Vacaville
01-11-2013, 8:46 AM
My 59/66 was super reliable, but shot around 12" groups at 100 yards. Sold it so I could buy a scope. I'd take a Garand over an SKS any day.

spareparts
01-11-2013, 8:47 AM
x39 ammo is cheeper to shoot as well. What are your intentions for your rifles?

kurac
01-11-2013, 8:48 AM
thats a no brainer, Garand all the way

gotshotgun?
01-11-2013, 8:51 AM
Standard, you already know the answer!

Plus, getting a field grade means you can likely get a nice WW2 gun.

The Garand will shoot better, be worth more, and it's ammo is only marginally more expensive than current 7.62x36 pricing.

Standard
01-11-2013, 8:52 AM
x39 ammo is cheeper to shoot as well. What are your intentions for your rifles?

All of my rifles are just for shooting. I don't harbor SHTF delusions or compete in matches. I like a rifle to carry with me in the woods when hiking, but otherwise I like shooting steel at intermediate ranges (100-400 yards). My AR is an M16A4 style, not an M4 style if that helps.
I don't shoot as much as I'd like to, which sucks, but makes ammo prices not that huge of an issue. Full time work and full time student :o

Standard
01-11-2013, 8:54 AM
Standard, you already know the answer!

Plus, getting a field grade means you can likely get a nice WW2 gun.

The Garand will shoot better, be worth more, and it's ammo is only marginally more expensive than current 7.62x36 pricing.

I was hoping you'd come here to smack some sense into me.

Insight.556
01-11-2013, 9:00 AM
a garand is kind of punishing to shoot an sks fairly pleasant

Agreed. The overall characteristics of the rifles can be summed up by the above statement IMHO. The Garand is just a little too bulky/heavy for my taste. SKS is alot easier to manage (strapped to your back so to speak). Plus it's a classic, why not just keep it in your collection for the historical aspect?

My two cents.

Standard
01-11-2013, 9:07 AM
Thanks for the...Insight ;). I've shot Garands before and don't find them unpleasant, though obviously the SKS is less so. As for historical aspect, I find the Garand more interesting. Not to take anything away from the SKS, as they are pretty cool.

sixoclockhold
01-11-2013, 9:12 AM
Your going to have two great weapons...keep them both and instead of buying another, just buy a ton of ammo or reloading supplies

Standard
01-11-2013, 9:15 AM
Your going to have two great weapons...keep them both and instead of buying another, just buy a ton of ammo or reloading supplies

Well to be honest, buying extra stuff isn't really in the cards at the moment. I feel like Garands are the best value in the gun world right now, and really want to get what I can while they are still available. So it's really money out need to be pretty equal to money in. Already found a buyer for the SKS, so Garand it is!
Honestly, I just love Garands.

pro-nra
01-11-2013, 9:32 AM
a garand is kind of punishing to shoot an sks fairly pleasant
If you find Garand "punishing" don't shoot a 1903/03-A3 of the same caliber as they are a mule. I'm a small guy and can shoot 100 rounds through my Garand without any issues. I can only do about 5 with 1903/03-A3 without a Limbsaver on the butt stock.

so Garand it is!
Honestly, I just love Garands.

Good call!

Lone_Gunman
01-11-2013, 9:32 AM
As the guy who bought your last Garand I'm gonna say... Get another Garand. It's a better rifle, and can be rebarreled fairly easily too. You could get the field grade and then buy a Criterion barrel for it later.

My 2˘

The Garand I bought from you is super nice, I'm actually going to give it to my Dad for his 65th birthday.

Standard
01-11-2013, 9:34 AM
As the guy who bought your last Garand I'm gonna say... Get another Garand. It's a better rifle, and can be rebarreled fairly easily too. You could get the field grade and then buy a Criterion barrel for it later.

My 2˘

The Garand I bought from you is super nice, I'm actually going to give it to my Dad for his 65th birthday.

Good point. Very glad you're pleased with the rifle, I instantly regretted letting it go. It was wierd, but as nice as the M1A was, it just didn't have the same soul as the Garand IMO.

echo1
01-11-2013, 10:10 AM
I'll take your SKS off your hands if the price is right. PM me if you're interested. PAX

Garandimal
01-11-2013, 10:57 AM
If you find Garand "punishing" don't shoot a 1903/03-A3 of the same caliber as they are a mule. I'm a small guy and can shoot 100 rounds through my Garand without any issues. I can only do about 5 with 1903/03-A3 without a Limbsaver on the butt stock...

This is absolutely true.

Took both out last wknd, the 03-A3 has a straight sporter stock (no sling) that I chopped and installed a 1" pachmayr magnum recoil pad onto. W/ proper cheek-weld it still loosed my molars.

The Garand, on the other hand, is a pleasure to shoot. Shot Fifty (50) rounds w/ the steel butt and only a cotton shirt. The key is proper shooting positions and the prodigious use of the rifle sling.

M1 Rifle Training pt1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L6p_Cftp9QE)

Using the web sling (http://www.ray-vin.com/tech/websling/webslinghelp.htm)

After the initial sight-in of the rifle, I always shoot Garands from field positions w/ the sling.

It makes that 9.5 lb. rifle into a 209.5 lb. rifle. :D




GR

NOTABIKER
01-11-2013, 11:29 AM
i do not own a M1. i do own a M1A and a SKS. for many reasons i like my SKS just as much as the M1A. if cost is important get the SKS. even now i can buy a 20 round pack of 7.62-39 for 6 bucks. just as much fun to shoot.

OldShooter32
01-11-2013, 11:37 AM
Wait? A SKS is "historic" and a Garand isn't?

I think General Patton might disagree.

TRICKSTER
01-11-2013, 12:03 PM
Wait? A SKS is "historic" and a Garand isn't?

I think General Patton might disagree.

I was wondering about that comment myself. The Garand is not considered historical or a classic? It was after all, the first semi-automatic rifle to be generally issued to the infantry of any nation.

6mmintl
01-11-2013, 2:59 PM
Yes, that is one of the $229.00 SKS imported recently, in todays markot the price gougers are getting $400-$500 for these. Of corse the M1 gougers are now getting $900 to $1500

Standard
01-11-2013, 3:06 PM
Then I guess it all balances out doesn't it :)

Bobby Ricigliano
01-11-2013, 6:27 PM
This is a matter of personal preference and budget. Nobody can decide this but you. I would take a nice Russian SKS over a Garand anyday. Obviously others here will disagree.

The Garand seems to be a more accurate and longer ranged rifle but the SKS shoots the most common round in the world, needs little maintenance and is practically indestructible. On a recent desert trip a friend brought a Garand and it was screwed up and wouldn't even fire. I'm not disparaging the Garand, but that experience shaped my opinion on what I personally prefer.

BrokerB
01-11-2013, 7:24 PM
sks- easy choice.

Ammo is cheap... and is still in MAJOR production with majority of all nations military. Garand...no and drying up everyday.

Since you said you didn't care its an obvious choice, since the only common thing those two share are they are semi auto rifles. Because a Garand is chambered in a main battle rifle round. SKS is not. Not sure why even trying to compare the two as they really are different beasts. No sks vs ar-15 is more similar

If you want to shoot..and shoot often and ALWAYS and have plentiful inexpensive ammo choices.. SKS and that is a fact.

If you aren't shooting much over 300 yds.. SKS

Bobby Ricigliano
01-11-2013, 8:08 PM
I will leave the Garand to the snooty guy at the range with the yellow tinted glasses and Australian slouch hat who approaches the firing line with his rolling gun caddy and shoots 1 round every 10 minutes, writing everything down in his notebook......as if anybody cares.

I like to shoot, and shoot often. Bowling pins, potatos, clays, whatever. Bring lots of ammo and get dirty. SKS for me and my whiskey tango brothers.

0321jarhead
01-11-2013, 8:12 PM
That's a silly question, Garand or SKS? If you are to choose an SKS and tell the world of that choice, you may as well turn your back of all the ridicule you'll be getting from Patriotic "Americans" here and elsewhere. The choice is yours. I do though admire your courage on asking others of which of the two you should pick but, I bet you are just trying to get a bunch of panties in a ruffle. I know you'll get what you believe in. FYI, I own several of each but, my first was and is my 1944 SA M1 Garand.

mievil
01-11-2013, 8:27 PM
Who buys rifles to please "Patriotic Americans" that will be sitting on the line with you? Doesn't sound like much fun to me. I can say with 100% honesty that I have received way more looks at the range with my K31 than I ever got with my Garand, "Patriotic Americans or no.

Given the choice, and what you already have, I say go with a different gun. You've got a Service CMP coming, and have a beater SKS already, and want a beater Garand to replace your beater SKS for trudging through the sticks? I don't follow. Garand is more of a PITA to carry, and the ammo will take up more space in a pack or body. Keep the Garand you have coming for the range, keep the SKS for the sticks, then get something else super cool to broaden the collection! That's my opinion. :)

Bobby Ricigliano
01-11-2013, 8:29 PM
For the purpose of patriotism, I'll stick with my honorable discharge from the U.S. Army

For shootin' fun, I'll stick with Simonov and his commie blaster.

P.S. Jarhead, that Yugo I just got makes 15. Hehe it is a sickness!

Sailormilan2
01-12-2013, 5:44 AM
I had an SKS and have 5 Garands. I shoot the Garands, I never shot the SKS so I sold it.
Personally, I would get a Garand. They are fun to shoot. A little heavy, but that makes them much easier to shoot. Much more powerful than the SKS.
If ammo is a problem, learn to reload. It isn't rocket science.
The M1 Garand, been turning cover into concealment for 75 years.:43:

pro-nra
01-12-2013, 8:46 AM
Wait? A SKS is "historic" and a Garand isn't?

I think General Patton might disagree.
I agree: "the greatest battle implement ever devised" General George S. Patton


I will leave the Garand to the snooty guy at the range with the yellow tinted glasses and Australian slouch hat who approaches the firing line with his rolling gun caddy and shoots 1 round every 10 minutes, writing everything down in his notebook......as if anybody cares.

I like to shoot, and shoot often. Bowling pins, potatos, clays, whatever. Bring lots of ammo and get dirty. SKS for me and my whiskey tango brothers.

Let’s all be civil and leave out the name calling. Calling fellow shooters “snooty” is just not nice. You might not care but writing things down for his dope is being meticulous so he will have it readily available to refer to next time he goes to the range. Some people are not into “spray and pray” and more into proper sight alignment, sight picture and trigger control and hit the target several hundred yards away. I’m sure the SKS has its place in world history but so is the Garand in American history and means a lot to the men that carried them in combat in WWII and Korea. Just my $0.20.

Beetle Bailey
01-12-2013, 8:51 AM
I will leave the Garand to the snooty guy at the range with the yellow tinted glasses and Australian slouch hat who approaches the firing line with his rolling gun caddy and shoots 1 round every 10 minutes, writing everything down in his notebook......as if anybody cares.

I like to shoot, and shoot often. Bowling pins, potatos, clays, whatever. Bring lots of ammo and get dirty. SKS for me and my whiskey tango brothers.

The vast majority of Garand owners do not own a single-shot sled. My CMP Garands cost me $500 each and I almost always shoot them 8 rounds at a time. I like the SKS as well, and if you could still get non-magnetic Wolf ammo for $80 per case of 1000 rounds, I would never have sold mine. It was a solid gun.

OP: congrats on the M1 :D

Standard
01-12-2013, 10:00 AM
Thanks. Please don't turn this into a pissing match between fanbois of each. Let's all agree that both are great weapons and we are really discussing tiny differences in the grand scheme of things.

0321jarhead
01-12-2013, 11:53 AM
:iagree::rockon::cheers2:

Pofoo
01-12-2013, 12:02 PM
Keep 1 of each.
Do you and the wife/girl friend/ brother/parents all drive the same car?
Of course not. I like a little varity.
Ammo logistics really isn't a big deal.
Reality, shoot 1 Garand or sks and you've shot them all, unless you're really into target shooting.

Bobby Ricigliano
01-12-2013, 1:04 PM
Thanks. Please don't turn this into a pissing match between fanbois of each. Let's all agree that both are great weapons and we are really discussing tiny differences in the grand scheme of things.

I was just funnin' y'all. Who wouldn't want a Garand? I'm just more of a SKS guy.

Justintoxicated
01-14-2013, 7:34 PM
Pass on the SKS, definitely get a Garand.
Get 400 rounds of ammo from CMP while your at it for $220 or whatever it is at.

I want an SKS a little, but I defiantly would buy another grand. Although I would get a service grade or better. My Garand is currently my favorite rifle to shoot, its not nearly as hard on the shoulder as my shotgun, K31, or even my Mosin. It's also decently accurate, even with CMP ammo. Sure the ammo is more money, but also more fun to shoot! People at the range do comment on my Garand, and never my K31 unlike the guy above.

IMO it's not even a contest between the two for the price.

Standard
01-15-2013, 1:31 PM
Sold the SKS, Garand on the way! Found a localish guy on the CMP boards to go hand pick a field grade and have it shipped to me. I'll probably have it before the mail order that I sent in two weeks ago.

One78Shovel
01-15-2013, 1:42 PM
No brainer IMO, and I have both, get the Garand.

The SA FG I received right at Christmas from the CMP was awesome. I posted some pic on here so you can find them. One of the sweetest field grades recently so I am told by the gurus at the CMP forums.

-178S

chinaserf1
01-16-2013, 6:48 AM
The SKS can fill a role in your stash that another Garand couldn't. It just depends on your operational parameters, of course, but in some random 'shtf', I would feel better reaching into my safe and handing my 5' girlfriend an SKS and loaded china bandolier than a FG Garand. Besides, the Ammo logistics argument cuts both ways: It would suck to scavenge a stash with ammo nobody could use!

I would of course be handling my SG SA Garand myself!

pro-nra
01-16-2013, 8:02 AM
Sold the SKS, Garand on the way! Found a localish guy on the CMP boards to go hand pick a field grade and have it shipped to me. I'll probably have it before the mail order that I sent in two weeks ago.
Good choice. Is Chris/Magna handpicking for you? He just made the SS trip back in November. A good guy and very knowledgeable about Garand.

Standard
01-16-2013, 9:40 AM
Good choice. Is Chris/Magna handpicking for you? He just made the SS trip back in November. A good guy and very knowledgeable about Garand.

Not Magna, someone else from the forum who is going next week.

diverwcw
01-17-2013, 8:27 PM
Garand all the way! Doesn't look as "evil" as the SKS and just might be off the PRK's radar as an assault rifle.

eeeeman
01-18-2013, 6:17 AM
Keep both or you will miss only sell what you have 2 of.

Standard
01-18-2013, 7:09 AM
I was shooting my Mosin this weekend and it wasn't even bad. I haven't shot a Garand in several months, but I don't remember it being bad at all.
Slugs through a pump shotgun really get me though :o

buzbombe
01-18-2013, 1:14 PM
I am going to have to say get the Garand. you can never go wrong with it and is has such a great history.

3006Garand
01-18-2013, 4:59 PM
Garand all the way.