View Full Version : some motivation to call legislator - cuz we're winning (nationwide)

08-27-2007, 10:05 AM
We're doing something right!

Hah, she calls us 'petulant'? I can just hear her shrill voice a la Edith "Dingbat" Bunker (for those of you old enough to remember 70s TV All in the Family).

This befuddled b**ch just doesn't get it. Seems she can't understand why we're making progress.

But let's not get lazy, we have work ahead of us: Call, Fax and Email your legislators - look for items posted here by "CALIFORNIA_NRA_INFO" and/or check http://www.calnra.org on legislative updates and call as suggested/.

And while dingbats like this are making cattle calls for gun control, we need to redouble our efforts to put this stupidity in the grave.

We can win because we have more boots on the ground, because we give a damn about rights, and - let's face it - our opponents have an overall killjoy attitude. (Do antigunners conglomerate for BBQs, shoots, other social events, etc? That's really an edge we have organizationally.)

A Proud Petulant Robust Vitriolic Gun-Toting NRA Stalwart


Gun lovers disarm control advocates

August 27, 2007
LAURA WASHINGTON novakevans@aol.com

It looks like the petulant, gun-toting NRA stalwarts have won the first round.

Last time, I used this space to ask where you stand on the issue of gun control. A torrent of e-mails later, it's clear: Gun-control advocates were outgunned, four to one.

The gun lovers were legion, robust and vitriolic. Many of you told me to go places where the sun doesn't shine and the temperature is way too hot. Yet, if you believe public opinion polls, that reaction is an anomaly. For instance, last April, ABC News polled adults nationwide, and asked: "Do you favor or oppose stricter gun control laws in this country?" Sixty-one percent favored them, 36 percent were opposed, and 3 percent were "unsure."

CBS News asked, "In general, do you feel the laws covering the sale of handguns should be made more strict, less strict, or kept as they are now?" Two-thirds of respondents nationwide opted for "more strict."

What is the problem with the advocates of gun control? Why are their voices not being heard? They are consistently cowed and overmatched. Gun violence is out of control, yet the gun lovers are ascendant.

You think we've got problems now? Just listen to Mike Huckabee, the former Arkansas governor and Republican presidential aspirant. At a recent Conservative Political Action Conference, he bragged, "I'm not a newcomer to the NRA," the New York Times reported on its political blog. "I was the first governor to have a conceal-carry permit, so don't mess with me."

Huckabee, mind you, recently made a flashy second-place showing in the Iowa presidential straw poll.

Do you want to be standing in line for gas, popcorn or a gallon of milk and find yourself next to someone who's packing heat? If he takes the White House, we can all go shopping for embossed leather holsters and pearl-handled pistols. I'll be looking to accessorize that with rhinestone-studded boots.

Luckily, Huckabee is a long shot.

Still, despite the polls, it seems the gun control advocates have been outmatched. Abigail Spangler acknowledges as much. Spangler is the founder of ProtestEasyGuns.com, a Virginia-based group that has been spearheading a slew of anti-gun protests around the nation.

Gun control activists, she wrote me, "are TRYING HARD but they are seriously affected in state after state by lack of funding and contributions." She recently met, she says, with the leader of Virginia's only gun control group. "He says they may not even be able to afford any lobbyist at all soon in Virginia!"

This comes just four months after the Virginia Tech shooting massacre, which took 32 lives.

Our elected officials have either been bought off or are missing in action. The odds are against the majority of Americans who are terrified and sickened by the gun menace.

For Spangler, it comes down to one urgent hope. "Who knows whether our protests against lax gun laws will make a difference?" she asks. "It's basically my 'Hail Mary' pass -- a pass of desperation to the American people -- that I hope they will catch."

If I had my way, the gun lobby would be looking at three yards and a cloud of dust. Let's get organized and shove tougher gun policies right down their throats.

08-27-2007, 10:07 AM

08-27-2007, 10:15 AM
I hate polls. Penn and Teller did a thing where they showed how a pollster can get the exact results he wants by the way he ask the question.

08-27-2007, 10:17 AM
Link now supplied - did it before but lost it during edit cycle, sorry.

08-27-2007, 10:53 AM
This was in the NRA-ILA email from 8/24:

Poll Finds 66% Of Voters Want No New Gun Laws

A recent Zogby International poll conducted for Associated Television News found that 66% of the American voting public rejects the idea that new gun control laws are needed.

The poll asked: "Which of the following two statements regarding gun control comes closer to your own opinion?

Statement A: There needs to be new and tougher gun control legislation to help in the fight against gun crime.

Statement B: There are enough laws on the books. What is needed is better enforcement of current laws regarding gun control."

Conversely, the poll found that just 31% of the American public thinks new and tougher gun control laws are needed, and that voters who support better enforcement of existing gun laws are found across virtually all demographic groups, and in all regions of the country.

Almost exactly the opposite results...

08-27-2007, 10:59 AM
See what I mean.

Creeping Incrementalism
08-27-2007, 6:37 PM
If he takes the White House, we can all go shopping for embossed leather holsters and pearl-handled pistols. I'll be looking to accessorize that with rhinestone-studded boots.

Only a pimp in a New Orleans whorehouse or a tin-horn gambler would carry a pearl-handled pistol.


08-27-2007, 7:23 PM
Polls are funny, because it all depends on who you ask and HOW you phrase the questions...I'm sure that number would be different if it were worded "do you think we need new laws to regulate firearms like the Uzi automatic 9mm that James Huberty used in the McDonalds massacre on July 18, 1984?" What "reasonable" individual would say no to that?:rolleyes: