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fredieusa
01-06-2013, 9:48 AM
Video is posted here on C-span
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/program/GunViolen



From his FB page.. He wants to hear from US !!!


Next week I will be holding a series of town hall meetings on reducing and preventing gun violence. On Tuesday at 7 p.m. we will be at Napa City Hall in the Council Chambers at 955 School Street. On Wednesday at 7 p.m. we will be at Vallejo City Hall at 555 Santa Clara Street. And on Thursday at 6:30 p.m. we will be at the Board of Supervisors meeting room in Santa Rosa at 575 Administration Drive. I want to hear from you. Please join us if you can.



Mike Thompson is going to have an open forum this SEE SCHEDULE BELOW. He is now Chairman of congressional task force on gun violence. Notice they don't say gun control. Not PC. Chance to standup and be heard.

From Press Democrat <http://goo.gl/F2NzM>
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/20130105/ARTICLES/130109762/1033/news?Title=Rep-Thompson-hosts-forum-on-gun-violence-in-Santa-Rosa-Thursday




Update:

01/08/13 Napa City Hall - Tuesday at 7 p.m. he will be at Napa City Hall in the Council Chambers at 955 School Street.

01/09/13 Vallejo City Hall - Wednesday at 7 p.m. we will be at Vallejo City Hall at 555 Santa Clara Street.

01/10/13 Santa Rosa - Thursday at 6:30 p.m. we will be at the Board of Supervisors meeting room in Santa Rosa at 575 Administration Drive

ptoguy2002
01-06-2013, 10:08 AM
Cannot reconcile this:But Thompson, a hunter, gun owner and Vietnam combat veteran, refused to use the phrase “gun control” in an interview Friday.

The two words “create a divide that's not bridgeable,” Thompson said, acknowledging the Second Amendment right to bear arms and saying “nobody's going to take that right away.”

With this:At the same time, Thompson reiterated his personal opposition to assault weapons and high-capacity magazines, which he has said “have no place on our streets or in our communities.”

He's just another anti-gunner...

Ajaxx
01-06-2013, 10:14 AM
Subject: Senator Mike Thompson to hold forum on gun violence


Mike Thompson is going to have an open forum this Thursday from 6pm-9pm at the County Supervisors chambers. He is now Chairman of congressional task force on gun violence. Notice they don't say gun control. Not PC. Chance to standup and be heard.

From Press Democrat <http://goo.gl/F2NzM>

Spread the word.


Thanks FD

Swiss
01-06-2013, 10:20 AM
Sounds like part of their plan to split the gunowning community. Reassure the hunters while targeting the AR owners.

LibertyDeath
01-06-2013, 10:31 AM
Firearms have no place in our streets. They belong inside protected from the harsh elements, damage from vehicles, and generally treated with respect.

otteray
01-06-2013, 10:35 AM
Instead of blindly marching on the capitol, as is being planned by some, why not show up here at his meeting instead where it may do some good?:oji:

Bhobbs
01-06-2013, 10:43 AM
Another "I own guns but" gun owner. He's worse than the antis. He validates what the antis say.

BomarFab
01-06-2013, 10:52 AM
Is this open to anyone to show up and voice their opinion?

Iggy
01-06-2013, 11:06 AM
He will also be in Napa. Straight from his Facebook:

Next week I will be holding a series of town hall meetings on reducing and preventing gun violence. On Tuesday at 7 p.m. we will be at Napa City Hall in the Council Chambers at 955 School Street. On Wednesday at 7 p.m. we will be at Vallejo City Hall at 555 Santa Clara Street. And on Thursday at 6:30 p.m. we will be at the Board of Supervisors meeting room in Santa Rosa at 575 Administration Drive. I want to hear from you. Please join us if you can.

Iggy
01-06-2013, 11:06 AM
He will also be in Napa. Straight from his Facebook:

Next week I will be holding a series of town hall meetings on reducing and preventing gun violence. On Tuesday at 7 p.m. we will be at Napa City Hall in the Council Chambers at 955 School Street. On Wednesday at 7 p.m. we will be at Vallejo City Hall at 555 Santa Clara Street. And on Thursday at 6:30 p.m. we will be at the Board of Supervisors meeting room in Santa Rosa at 575 Administration Drive. I want to hear from you. Please join us if you can.

wjc
01-06-2013, 12:49 PM
"you" != "us".

He wants to get a gauge of the anti sentiment in those areas to justify any
vote he gives on legislation.

brushfire21
01-06-2013, 1:10 PM
Looking at showing up to the Napa, but suspect it will be a one sided conversation by the anti's and a lynch mob against the rest of us. Hopefully others from here will be showing up.

tcrpe
01-06-2013, 3:06 PM
Only one thing matters to our politicians, left or right. Their ambitions.

CitaDeL
01-06-2013, 3:46 PM
While I do not generally support staging a protest at the Capitol, I do believe constituents should go to this kind of function when invited by their representative to an open house or town hall.

Each should put their best face forward, being dressed for business or business casual and prepared to have some well thought questions or comments.

CitaDeL
01-06-2013, 3:48 PM
Looking at showing up to the Napa, but suspect it will be a one sided conversation by the anti's and a lynch mob against the rest of us. Hopefully others from here will be showing up.

Coordinate. Meet some like minded people from Calguns and join forces in advance of the meeting.

TheBest
01-06-2013, 6:39 PM
I'll definitely be going to the Santa Rosa one, even if it's on my birthday. There are more important things than that.

brushfire21
01-06-2013, 11:09 PM
Thankyou for input and advice. I know of two others going and will take all of the points mentioned above and pass them on.

mag360
01-06-2013, 11:49 PM
707 time to roll out!

NotEnufGarage
01-07-2013, 2:41 AM
Looking at showing up to the Napa, but suspect it will be a one sided conversation by the anti's and a lynch mob against the rest of us. Hopefully others from here will be showing up.

Get there early and sit right up front so the anti's can't monopolize the conversation.

Ford8N
01-07-2013, 4:34 AM
Please don't wear any stupid camo.

BomarFab
01-07-2013, 8:15 AM
I would like to go to this, as I feel I have some intelligent points to make, and I am a young responsible business owner. However, I feel I will likely be labeled as a red neck or something along those lines, as I could only make it in work clothes (I am a welder). I am trying to get my father to go in my place, he is a more professional type of business owner, and well known in the area.

ptroxx
01-07-2013, 6:05 PM
Where is the Sonoma county banter crowd? Time for yall to come out

Their in the banter thread

GillaFunk
01-07-2013, 6:24 PM
I'll likely attend both. I've been debating and discussing this topic since all the anti's began beating their drum after Sandy Hook. Should be interesting.

NapaPlinker
01-07-2013, 6:27 PM
I wrote him and go this response back.

Dear Mr. Amadeo:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. There have been far too many tragic shootings this year and this particular senseless act of violence took the lives of innocent, young children and staff who believed they were safe at school.

As a father and grandfather, I am deeply shocked and saddened. The students, teachers, and the families of those killed in this tragedy are in my thoughts and prayers. As your representative in Congress, I am committed to doing more to prevent tragedies like these and have recently been named to lead a congressional task force on reducing and preventing gun violence.

I am a gun owner, hunter, former co-chair of the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus, supporter of the Second Amendment and a combat veteran who carried an assault rifle in Vietnam. I believe law-abiding, mentally-stable Americans have the right to own legitimate firearms for legitimate purposes.

I understand guns, their purpose and how they are used. I understand that we have an obligation to make sure guns are used responsibly. I understand that there are some people who should not have access to firearms. And I believe that military-type assault weapons and assault magazines like the ones I carried in Vietnam have no place on our streets or in our communities. They serve no hunting purpose, they aid criminals, and they too often are a tool for mass shootings. Whether it's a classroom in Newtown, a movie theater in Aurora, or a shopping mall in Oregon, our nation has mourned far too many of these tragedies.

There is no set of laws that will end these horrific tragedies and senseless acts of violence, but that cannot be an excuse to do nothing. It is time to act. And we need a comprehensive approach that goes beyond just arming more people with more guns to make this happen. Congress must reinstate the ban on military-type assault weapons and assault magazines, improve our background check system to ensure that anyone who buys a firearm is a law-abiding, mentally stable individual, and figure out how to close the holes in our mental health system and make sure care is available for those that need it.

As chair of this congressional gun violence task force, I will be working on these issues as part of a comprehensive approach to reduce gun violence and strengthen our nation's gun laws. I will be working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, mental health experts, gun rights advocacy groups, gun safety advocacy groups, school and education leaders, entertainment industry leaders, law enforcement officials and others to discuss a comprehensive approach to combating the prevalence of gun violence in our communities. All issues must be on the table and everyone must be at the table.

Together we can give our time, our hearts and our very best efforts to do everything possible to make sure this kind violence is no longer visited on our children and our nation.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please continue to contact me on all issues of importance to you and to our district.

Sincerely,

MIKE THOMPSON
Member of Congress

edrex
01-07-2013, 8:44 PM
I will try to be there. How long do these things tend to last? I have an almost 12yo daughter that I think would be interested in hearing what people have to say from both sides of the debate.

9M62
01-07-2013, 8:45 PM
I will be at the Santa Rosa meeting.

Please remember to dress appropriately and conduct yourself in an extremely professional manner!

You may not be able to influence Rep. Thompson's viewpoint, but you can certainly influence others who are less informed about firearms than ourselves.

The best way to do that is carry yourself extremely professionally and with courtesy.

TheBest
01-07-2013, 8:55 PM
Everybody should read this before attending: http://larrycorreia.wordpress.com/2012/12/20/an-opinion-on-gun-control/

SUPER LONG but worth the read. Don't be scared by the long scroll bar, 90% of it is comments. This article debunks most "facts" and arguments by the anti's. It'll make you sound smarter with facts (not that they'll listen), but somebody else might be eavesdropping on your conversation and you'll sound smarter.

mag360
01-07-2013, 9:52 PM
Dear Mike Thompson, where does it say that only guns that are poor for self defense, but good for hunting are the ones that we get to have, and the police get to have the ones that are good for self defense?

jonnyt16
01-08-2013, 5:53 PM
Damn I can't make it. Please let us know how it went!

brushfire21
01-08-2013, 5:56 PM
It is a packed room, way to small for the crowd here at the Napa meeting. Looks like our side is well represented by the looks of it.

Nxd9ar15xcrL
01-08-2013, 5:57 PM
I got me seat.

ptroxx
01-08-2013, 6:06 PM
I got me seat.

Let us know how it goes..

grimstuff
01-08-2013, 6:13 PM
Anyone who wants to watch live can click on this link for the live video: http://cityofnapa.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=673

Under Upcoming Events, Public Forum Gun Violence Prevention, Napa City Hall Council Chambers, 955 School Street, click on VIEW EVENT.

pharazon
01-08-2013, 6:30 PM
I believe the first lady to speak was named Pam? THAT is what we need more of. Calm, collected, factual statements.

Obviously the crowd is predominantly pro-gun based on the reactions.

pharazon
01-08-2013, 6:30 PM
I believe the first lady to speak was named Pam? THAT is what we need more of. Calm, collected, factual statements.

SEEMS like the crowd is predominantly pro-gun based on the reactions..

ptroxx
01-08-2013, 6:41 PM
Anyone who wants to watch live can click on this link for the live video: http://cityofnapa.org/index.php?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=673

Under Upcoming Events, Public Forum Gun Violence Prevention, Napa City Hall Council Chambers, 955 School Street, click on VIEW EVENT.

Thank you for the link,, man the place is packed.. thats awesome...
The little old lady talking about CCW was awesome...

grimstuff
01-08-2013, 6:41 PM
Thompson is out of line by trying to direct public input in a particular direction and reduce "redundancy" of comments.

ArmedJackal
01-08-2013, 6:42 PM
I wrote him and go this response back.

Dear Mr. Amadeo:

Thank you for contacting me regarding the tragedy at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut. There have been far too many tragic shootings this year and this particular senseless act of violence took the lives of innocent, young children and staff who believed they were safe at school.

As a father and grandfather, I am deeply shocked and saddened. The students, teachers, and the families of those killed in this tragedy are in my thoughts and prayers. As your representative in Congress, I am committed to doing more to prevent tragedies like these and have recently been named to lead a congressional task force on reducing and preventing gun violence.

I am a gun owner, hunter, former co-chair of the Congressional Sportsmen's Caucus, supporter of the Second Amendment and a combat veteran who carried an assault rifle in Vietnam. I believe law-abiding, mentally-stable Americans have the right to own legitimate firearms for legitimate purposes.

I understand guns, their purpose and how they are used. I understand that we have an obligation to make sure guns are used responsibly. I understand that there are some people who should not have access to firearms. And I believe that military-type assault weapons and assault magazines like the ones I carried in Vietnam have no place on our streets or in our communities. They serve no hunting purpose, they aid criminals, and they too often are a tool for mass shootings. Whether it's a classroom in Newtown, a movie theater in Aurora, or a shopping mall in Oregon, our nation has mourned far too many of these tragedies.

There is no set of laws that will end these horrific tragedies and senseless acts of violence, but that cannot be an excuse to do nothing. It is time to act. And we need a comprehensive approach that goes beyond just arming more people with more guns to make this happen. Congress must reinstate the ban on military-type assault weapons and assault magazines, improve our background check system to ensure that anyone who buys a firearm is a law-abiding, mentally stable individual, and figure out how to close the holes in our mental health system and make sure care is available for those that need it.

As chair of this congressional gun violence task force, I will be working on these issues as part of a comprehensive approach to reduce gun violence and strengthen our nation's gun laws. I will be working with my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, mental health experts, gun rights advocacy groups, gun safety advocacy groups, school and education leaders, entertainment industry leaders, law enforcement officials and others to discuss a comprehensive approach to combating the prevalence of gun violence in our communities. All issues must be on the table and everyone must be at the table.

Together we can give our time, our hearts and our very best efforts to do everything possible to make sure this kind violence is no longer visited on our children and our nation.

Again, thank you for sharing your thoughts with me. Please continue to contact me on all issues of importance to you and to our district.

Sincerely,

MIKE THOMPSON
Member of Congress

That is his form letter. I received the identical letter from him in response to my email on gun control.

pharazon
01-08-2013, 6:42 PM
He keeps asking for input on HOW to decrease gun violence.

Someone needs to bring up license to carry!

foreppin916
01-08-2013, 6:47 PM
Watching this now...hopefully all goes well :)

ptroxx
01-08-2013, 6:49 PM
He keeps asking for input on HOW to decrease gun violence.

Someone needs to bring up license to carry!

There was a very nice old lady maybe in her 60's that said everyone should be able to get a ccw just like a drivers license.

F-2_Challenger
01-08-2013, 6:52 PM
At the town hall in napa and the congressman said he is for an assault weapons bill and he defines it as California law.

pharazon
01-08-2013, 6:52 PM
There was a very nice old lady maybe in her 60's that said everyone should be able to get a ccw just like a drivers license.

I misunderstood her as saying everyone should have to obtain a license to own a gun. Thank you for clarifying.

grimstuff
01-08-2013, 7:01 PM
My thoughts while watching:

Everyone wants to feel safe. Some people want the government to make them feel safe, and these are the people who want to deny others the right to bear arms. That's it in a nutshell.

Thompson rambles on like a clueless wandering idiot, interrupting people.

No one, so far, has talked about the War on Drugs and it's relationship to gun violence.

Second woman talks about "drivers license" for guns... nothing about license to carry, but just license to own.

pharazon
01-08-2013, 7:05 PM
I would like to have heard the lady proposing gun owner insurance detail exactly HOW that would decrease violence.

Scarecrow Repair
01-08-2013, 8:07 PM
And I believe that military-type assault weapons and assault magazines like the ones I carried in Vietnam have no place on our streets or in our communities.

Dammit, has he forgotten that he shot full auto military M16s, not semi-auto civilian AR-15s? Has he been drinking the kool-aid for so long that he's forgotten such basic differences?

Nxd9ar15xcrL
01-08-2013, 9:41 PM
I believe the first lady to speak was named Pam? THAT is what we need more of. Calm, collected, factual statements.

SEEMS like the crowd is predominantly pro-gun based on the reactions..

From being in the audience, it seemed like a mix of both pro and anti's. However on a whole I didn't leave with a positive feeling about an AWB being out, but it rather being one of the measures that is going to happen in addition to maybe some mental health measures...

Then the FUD from some lady with the Brady campaign... Pure BS

cheetah45
01-08-2013, 10:06 PM
Rep. Mike Thompson is not our friend. He will throw AR-15 owners under the bus and most likely drive the bus too. His bias towards that class of firearms showed in his comments about "assault rifles" and "assault magazines" have no place in Amercan Society. He repeated it at least a half dozen times. I must admit, that his "assault magazine" comment caught me off guard. I thought I had heard every weird and incorrect term to describe a firearm and its distinct features. "Assault magazines" came from Thompson's mouth more often than "assault rifle":mad:. I am telling you boys and girls, Rep. Mike Thompson is not our friend at all.

cheetah45
01-08-2013, 10:22 PM
Someone asked another if he knew what makes an asssault weapon an assault weapon and the reply was: "it's like pornography, you know it when you see it." Anybody know who said that? Was it Thompson who sad that or someone else?

CrazyPhuD
01-09-2013, 12:21 AM
Question for the people there. Was the format more of a question and answer style or when people commented were they allowed to talk for a bit. I have an analogy to explain that I believe can be an interesting perspective but would take a bit of time to go through. I'm talking under 5min. Do we have time or are comments meant to be very short?

I'd prefer to say it, but if this isn't the right forum I am happy to write it. Just verbally I'll be certain he'll hear it while written it may be read and circular filed by a staffer.

jonnyt16
01-09-2013, 4:28 AM
I think you guys need to keep hammering the fact that we don't own "assault rifles" and that assault rifles are what the military uses, not what we use. Don't keep letting him get away with using that term!

Or you could just say that racecars only belong on the track and not on our city streets, therefore, we need to ban all cars that have spoilers. Same thing.

Ford8N
01-09-2013, 4:42 AM
I think you guys need to keep hammering the fact that we don't own "assault rifles" and that assault rifles are what the military uses, not what we use. Don't keep letting him get away with using that term!

Or you could just say that racecars only belong on the track and not on our city streets, therefore, we need to ban all cars that have spoilers. Same thing.

This is about the clearest explanation possible:

VQgvZDBJJjs

But it doesn't matter, the Brady's own this state and the DOJ.

dchem
01-09-2013, 5:36 AM
The meeting video is gone from the website. :(

grimstuff
01-09-2013, 6:02 AM
Someone asked another if he knew what makes an asssault weapon an assault weapon and the reply was: "it's like pornography, you know it when you see it." Anybody know who said that? Was it Thompson who sad that or someone else?

That was said by Thompson. He is clearly way off-base. He, like many others in Congress, can say they own a gun, can say they hunt, served in the military, etc. and then in the next breath propose a ban.

Of all people who spoke that night, Thomspon seemed one of the most detached from reality.

Question for the people there. Was the format more of a question and answer style or when people commented were they allowed to talk for a bit.

It was a public comment style hearing. Each commenter had 2 minutes to speak (since there were 55 who had already asked to comment by filling out cards). Unfortunately, since Thompson kept interrupting commenters and bloviating about "what's not on the table", he cut into the overall time of the meeting. And of course, you had various public officials grandstanding prior to the hearing, so that cut into the time as well. About halfway through the commenters the Mayor cut it to one minute per commenter.

Of all the comments, I'd say at least 2/3rds were pro-gun, with 1/4 or 1/3 being the usual crowd of politically active elderly liberals common in Northern California public venues (we have our share in Mendocino County, that's for sure).

The meeting video is gone from the website.

The live link is gone, but the recorded video should show up in their archived video list today or tomorrow.


One more thing before I get to work this morning: http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/gun-control-debate-stirs-napa-crowd/article_bf79b140-5a23-11e2-b07d-0019bb2963f4.html
That is the Napa Valley Register summary of the event, which grossly over-exaggerates the presence of anti-gun people. There were many pro-gunners and people who spoke of not trying to deconstruct the 2nd Amendment in a misguided attempt to curb violence.

grimstuff
01-09-2013, 6:26 AM
Congressman Thompson thinks Only 20% Citizens own guns !

Please show up at Vallejo Today folks.

The real number is about 1/3rd.

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#ownership

JimWest
01-09-2013, 6:33 AM
I will be attending.

CitaDeL
01-09-2013, 6:45 AM
One more thing before I get to work this morning: http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/gun-control-debate-stirs-napa-crowd/article_bf79b140-5a23-11e2-b07d-0019bb2963f4.html
That is the Napa Valley Register summary of the event, which grossly over-exaggerates the presence of anti-gun people. There were many pro-gunners and people who spoke of not trying to deconstruct the 2nd Amendment in a misguided attempt to curb violence.

What? No comments?

TheBest
01-09-2013, 10:25 AM
Thompson is out of line by trying to direct public input in a particular direction and reduce "redundancy" of comments.

Who cares what he is trying to direct. He is my representative and he will listen to what I have to say.

ptroxx
01-09-2013, 10:37 AM
Anyone know if they will show live feed for tonights meeting ? ?

pitbull30
01-09-2013, 11:32 AM
At the town hall in napa and the congressman said he is for an assault weapons bill and he defines it as California law.

I heard the same thing on the news. (Might have been on O'Reilly or Sean Hannitys show or heck maybe even Larry Elder 790AM radio) They have been takling alot about gun crontrol the past few days. Hannity went off last night saying he was a CCW holder. Anyway, they were interviewing some congressman or senator where he made a comment on the lines of "california already has gun laws in effect that the rest of the US should use"

I applaud all of you who attended this and who will attend tonight. Keep up the good work!! I hate all the negativity on the board telling others to “do nothing.”

I also dig the advice here reminding people to show up looking professional since the anti's paint us all as some vigilante with a 50 cal wearing cammo.

Skidmark
01-09-2013, 2:18 PM
The real number is about 1/3rd.

http://www.justfacts.com/guncontrol.asp#ownership

This was discussed here recently:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=642555

No one really knows, and the percentages can vary quite a bit by state. Some estimates put households with guns at near 50% in this country, with about 1/3 of all people owning guns.

JimWest
01-09-2013, 2:56 PM
Does anyone know if these meetings were Thompson's idea or is it coming from a legislative committee recommendation? I'm suspicious it is a strategy session element to guide public opinion and stir up emotions. We must confront it either way but knowing would temper my response at and after the meeting.

ptroxx
01-09-2013, 3:24 PM
Wonder if anyone has founf a link to watch tonights meeting...

If you can please post it up...

ptroxx
01-09-2013, 3:25 PM
Wonder if anyone has founf a link to watch tonights meeting...

If you can please post it up...

belkin
01-09-2013, 3:33 PM
His body guards dont carry muzzle loaders eh

mag360
01-09-2013, 5:11 PM
Make sure to ask him "where in the 2A does it mention hunting?" This has NOTHING to do with wildlife and natural resources. It has to do with self defense. Wish I could make it but im working night shifts in Sacramento all week.

mag360
01-09-2013, 5:43 PM
Debating taking tomorrow off so I can pull an Alex Jones while dressed in my best suit. We cant sit idly by. They need fierce opposition or we are going to lose this.

pitbull30
01-09-2013, 6:01 PM
This is about the clearest explanation possible:

VQgvZDBJJjs

But it doesn't matter, the Brady's own this state and the DOJ.

Excellent video. I wish it had some time on TV.

sar_man
01-09-2013, 7:18 PM
Predominantly pro-gun

Sent from my DROIDX using Tapatalk 2

blakdawg
01-09-2013, 8:13 PM
Legal Community Against Violence (anti-gun lawyer/activists) sent out a mailing to their E-mail list promoting attendance at these specific meetings, including dates/locations.

JimWest
01-09-2013, 8:28 PM
Just got home. Predom pro-gun. Thompson thinks he's leading the Pelosi parade but if he is smart, he'll vote "present" on any gun ban BS. Some statistical BS being thrown out by LE also. Obvious to me at the close, they knew they were not scoring points on much of anything. I feel your (polite, firm and constructive) voice matters on this issue. Y'all get your butts to these meetings!

GillaFunk
01-10-2013, 11:52 AM
I get the impression that with all this anti gun press is really stirring people up. People, are doing research and slowly choosing sides. Next thing you know it won't be a blue and red state nation, it will be a pro / anti gun state nation. Lol

TheBest
01-10-2013, 12:57 PM
Does anybody know if we can film/record audio?

Zimz
01-10-2013, 1:24 PM
Ill try to make it tonight in Santa Rosa

maj0rglitch
01-10-2013, 2:41 PM
Assault weapon is like pornography, you know once you see it.

JimWest
01-10-2013, 3:15 PM
Get up and make your point. I found two minutes goes very quickly. So don't ramble. In reflashing the meeting last night. I think the most hard hitting points are:

First thing I would say is ask Thompson to call for a moratorium on action to calm overreactions on both sides. The Administration is inventing another "crisis". Ask him not to be a pawn in the politcal game.

2nd Amendment is not about hunting. It is about protecting citizens from an overreaching government such as the soft tyranny we see today. Period. Move on.

They are wrong. Armed guards do belong in schools. quote this article:
Robert Bernat: A Reluctant Vote in Favor of Armed School Guards
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887324669104578203353922899758.html?K EYWORDS=a+reluctant+vote+in+favor+of+armed

Main point is you are there to say you do not support an assault weapons ban nor a magazine restriction. And you can only through your support behind a representative that recognizes a mental health issue from a magazine issue. Good luck, I wish I could be up there.

TheBest
01-10-2013, 5:16 PM
Over 170 here in Santa Rosa already. No room for standing.

mag360
01-10-2013, 5:24 PM
Wow. I told my parents and friends from SR to go. I hope they showed up.

JimWest
01-10-2013, 5:25 PM
I wonder if the old guy that called for executive order confiscation will be there also. Or the LaRouche crowd.

jonnyt16
01-10-2013, 5:37 PM
Keep us posted! We're curious!

ptroxx
01-10-2013, 5:40 PM
Anyone know if they are streaming this ? ?

ptroxx
01-10-2013, 5:40 PM
Anyone know if they are streaming this ? ?

TheBest
01-10-2013, 5:42 PM
"Specialists" are talking/grandstanding/wasting time.

kermit315
01-10-2013, 6:08 PM
tagging to follow.

ddestruel
01-10-2013, 6:29 PM
the number of drivers killed/injured by unlicensed and unregistered vehicles and drivers would be a interesting statistic to pair with thier numbers ......... id love to say jee rep thompson we should do a federal background check system for all vehicle sales before you can buy a car you must go to a dealer be checked out and go through a 10 day waiting period. also no vehicles with tanks in excess of 10 gallons

his logic kills me

mag360
01-10-2013, 6:44 PM
Cars arent a right. I wouldnt even go there without first touching on civil rights.

JimWest
01-10-2013, 7:36 PM
Well, how'd it go for you Santa Rosans (and Penngrovians)? Ooooh, weren't the "specialists" serious and oh so authoritarian?

TheBest
01-10-2013, 7:59 PM
I spoke, I was the person whose its birthday it was. PE.

I made sure Thompson knew the Second Amendment was for protection against government. The adrenaline is pumping still, 30 minutes out. The meeting is still going on probably, they let everybody have 90 seconds. I got my points across, basically followed JimWest's suggestions. Then I got IN-n-OUT.

TheBest
01-10-2013, 8:00 PM
Well, how'd it go for you Santa Rosans (and Penngrovians)? Ooooh, weren't the "specialists" serious and oh so authoritarian?
They didn't have many stats or anything. They did waste about 25 minutes, packed house, not even standing room, not enough space.

ddestruel
01-10-2013, 8:07 PM
Cars arent a right. I wouldnt even go there without first touching on civil rights.

think you missed where i was going with that

GillaFunk
01-10-2013, 9:02 PM
Pigman and I went. I saw Porter. I don't know it was you BoMar, sorry we didn't meet.

It was by far a pro gun group. One guywent ahead and blamed the media for sensationalizing the drug using gunmen. Lots of blame put on the mentally unstable and drug using hoopleheads.

Thompson heard lots of good arguments against more restrictive laws on law biding citizens. One guy even identified what an assault weapon is and noted such weapons have been banned since the 30's and remain only for LEO's and the military, and that all what remains for the average citizen were simple semi auto's. one speake brought up guns at schools, the woman next to me said under her breath asking if we really needed guns set school. The speaker continued the success of having armed security or police on campus. I looked @ her and chuckled with a blink. That really ruffled her feathers. :D

One could easily spot the peace loving Birkenstock wearing human rights activists who attended to spout their nonsense. After an hour of pro 2a cheers the hippies slowly got up and silently walked out frustrated and annoyed.

In short, it was a success. The pro 2a folks were very polite to let everyone speak, and when a speaker made sense with facts and information was followed with cheers and boisterous applause from the crowd


I think we are making progress and are building a growing number of people who are seeing the light and are seeing guns, high cap mags and these scary assault weapons are not to blame......but rather the mentally insane who gain fame from the media who need help. This malarkey about guns needed only for hunting is slowly fading to the wayside. The right to protect ones self, family, property is coming out.

JimWest
01-10-2013, 9:52 PM
Awesome report, Gilla. And spot on. I'm following up with a letter to Thompson tomorrow encouraging him to get on the right side of the argument.

mocha_j01
01-10-2013, 10:23 PM
Glad to hear that the Santa Rosa meeting turned out successful!

mag360
01-10-2013, 10:49 PM
:-) Music to my ears Gillafunk. Well done.

model63
01-10-2013, 11:04 PM
One could easily spot the peace loving Birkenstock wearing human rights activists ....

Hey now....I am a peace lovin', Birkenstock wearing 'human rights activist'...advocating my natural human right to self preservation through carrying a firearm ;)

fortdick
01-11-2013, 8:18 AM
Does anyone really think that Thompson will pay more attention to what his constituents say that what Pelosi says? He has to get into line or lose his re-election funding. They could care less about what we think. It is about them and the power they can get by taking away our rights.

BomarFab
01-11-2013, 8:56 AM
I ended up going with Catherine, my Dad and his friend showed up too. I felt it went well.

Anyone know if we will be able to watch this somewhere? I was hardly able to hear. My dad said it would be on TV, but was not sure where.

Sportsmans_Arms_Gabe
01-11-2013, 12:45 PM
I couldn't get in. Saw a lot of my customers on KTVU and from what everyone told me today, it was a landslide in favor of US. Let's see how they re-arrange what really happened.

Sportsmans_Arms_Gabe
01-11-2013, 12:45 PM
I couldn't get in. Saw a lot of my customers on KTVU and from what everyone told me today, it was a landslide in favor of US. Let's see how they re-arrange what really happened.

redhead
01-13-2013, 9:25 AM
Ugh. "the founding fathers meant for the Constitution to be a living, breathing document, changing as society evolves." Well, that 's why it has the amendment process!

The next fool was blathering about registration and having the police inspect to make sure your guns are locked up, with ammo locked up separately. High taxes on ammo, as well.

CitaDeL
01-13-2013, 9:28 AM
23 on Charter

redhead
01-13-2013, 9:34 AM
Woman now speaking about the shooting at 101 California in San Francisco, and her sister killing herself with a legally purchased gun.

I was working in SF at the time of the 101 California shooting, and I had to walk that way to get to the BART station to go home. The news we had at the time was very unclear about what was happening, and made it sound like some guy was on the roof and maybe shooting passersby. I also knew someone who committed suicide with a gun. And guess what. My first thoughts were not that guns should be banned and confiscated. It has never occured to me that banning guns, or stricter gun control laws are the answer, because it's not.

People do bad things. If they can't get guns, they'll figure out another way to do bad things. Why is that so hard to understand?

redhead
01-13-2013, 9:36 AM
That clown was giving the Japanese example. supposedly..

Yes, that's what he said. I was just typing too fast, I guess.

TheBest
01-13-2013, 10:36 AM
Dang it, I missed seeing myself on TV by like 10 minutes. Are they going to replay this?

ontmark
01-13-2013, 11:36 AM
I was at the one in Vallejo.
I also spoke my two minutes worth with much applause.
Cameraman from the Cronical said he photographed me and wanted the correct spelling of my name which I gave to him. Also showed him my Florida CCW and told him I will be trying to acquire my California one soon. God Bless America

Anyone know ifthe Vallejo meeting was aired??

Swiss
01-13-2013, 3:07 PM
Just finished listening to the whole program. While the anti-gun folks were mostly clueless, there were a few too many pro-gun, conspiracy-theory wingnuts for my taste. Are we really that f*cking dumb?

donny77
01-13-2013, 3:28 PM
...there were a few too many pro-gun, conspiracy-theory wingnuts for my taste. Are we really that f*cking dumb?

I think we just get caught up in answering their "why do you *need* an 'assault rifle'?.." We need to turn it around on them. Why do we issue them to police?

Swiss
01-13-2013, 3:31 PM
I know public meetings are an invitation for the loonies to come out of the woodwork on any issue under the sun. I didn't see any video from the other two meetings - were there more well spoken pro gun-rights folks at those?

Ford8N
01-13-2013, 8:55 PM
Just finished listening to the whole program. While the anti-gun folks were mostly clueless, there were a few too many pro-gun, conspiracy-theory wingnuts for my taste. Are we really that f*cking dumb?

After watching the whole thing too, I agree with ya Swiss. To many spacemen.

jdberger
01-14-2013, 12:24 AM
I haven't watched the video yet - but giant thanks to everyone who was abloe to make it out to these two events.

In all honesty, public meetings are scary. Standing up and speaking is scarier. Standing up and giving your elected representative the "what for" because their being friggin morons really gets the adrenaline pumping. I usually walk away shaking....

Despite the occasional conspiracy wingnuts, he fact that gunnies show up makes an impression. Someone willing to attend a public meeting is going to vote. And they're gonna try to influence all their friends, too. In close elections, some politicians might rather punt than tackle thorny issues like gun control.

Again, thanks to everyone who went. I'm sorry that I couldn't be there.

Keep up the fight.

Not one inch.

Szumi
01-14-2013, 12:21 PM
I watched most of it last night and I was impressed by the turn out of California gun owners. There were a few people that were 'out there' but overall I thought California gun owners did a very good job of presenting their side. I really expected to see it packed with anti gun types but I was pleasantly surprised.

I am used to the 'staged' congressional hearings CSPAN shows in the US Congress were each side brings in its people giving an illusion that opinions are 50/50 or hearings where only one party brings in their people, trying to make it look like there is support for a proposed change in legislation.

Szumi from Michigan

jdberger
01-14-2013, 5:09 PM
After watching the whole thing too, I agree with ya Swiss. To many spacemen.

+1

What was the thing about NAsA?

NorCalAthlete
01-14-2013, 11:00 PM
I spoke in Santa Rosa, along with a LEO buddy. Not sure how much of the overall message got across to Mr. Thompson, but he seemed to actually change his demeanor and paid attention when I spoke.