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mike.t
01-03-2013, 2:56 PM
Colt 1849 Pocket.Local gun shop says not original.Reproduction.How do i find out for sure.
Thanks in advance
Mike

gun toting monkeyboy
01-03-2013, 2:58 PM
The odds are that it is not an original. Originals are rare and expensive. Look at the proof marks and see what they say.

-Mb

Levetti
01-03-2013, 3:16 PM
Post a picture. What does the cylinder look like? Does your date correspond to the correct serial # range?

mike.t
01-03-2013, 3:44 PM
s/n says made in 1866
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m551/mike19441/100_0116_zpsd26b471b.jpg
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m551/mike19441/100_0123_zps58d1c909.jpg
http://i1131.photobucket.com/albums/m551/mike19441/100_0117_zps5e4c49ec.jpg

mike.t
01-03-2013, 3:53 PM
The odds are that it is not an original. Originals are rare and expensive. Look at the proof marks and see what they say.

-Mb

barrel says address colts something new york usa.trigger guard says31 cal.frame says colts patent.barrel/butt/frame/trigger gaurd has 281397.
pics below

Levetti
01-03-2013, 4:14 PM
It should have a brass strap instead of that stainless one, dead giveaway it isn't original. Wood on the grip looks too shiny in color, barrel looks to be too long for a pocket pistol also.

mike.t
01-03-2013, 4:31 PM
strap has been nickle plated.I dont know anything about these revolvers i just try to do my homework.If this link doest work please put in manualy.Lots of pictures of the colt 1849/barrels
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=1849+colt+pocket+pistol+for+sale&qpvt=1849+colt+pocket+pistol+for+sale&FORM=IGRE

Levetti
01-03-2013, 4:43 PM
There are members here that know a ton about those guns;hopefully some chime in. I know very little about them.This is a '60.189691
You can barely make out the stagecoach on the cylinder.

TRAP55
01-03-2013, 5:22 PM
Looks like a restoration attempt. If it's a fake, it's a good one, even has the last three serial digits on the frame and barrel out of whack from the first 3 like an original.
The grip frame was brass, but it was silver plated. The black you sometimes see on the brass frame is what's left of the silver, it was a thin plate that wore off with use.
Is there anything on top of the barrel?

mike.t
01-03-2013, 6:40 PM
Top of the barrel says address col?s new york usa america

Dutch3
01-03-2013, 7:55 PM
I don't know, the appearance seems to be very crisp for an original. Sharp edges on the cylinder cuts and all of the edges. Tooling marks very visible.

Unless it was kept in an oiled felt box since day one, it would likely look much like the 1860 photo that was posted.

mike.t
01-03-2013, 9:31 PM
Well from what i have read it's a repro.I'll do a little more research a little at a time.
Thanks to all.
Mike

TRAP55
01-03-2013, 10:55 PM
Mike, this may answer the question:
http://www.muzzleloadingforum.com/fusionbb/showpost.php?post/594288/

mike.t
01-04-2013, 8:53 AM
Thanks trap.It says colts patent on the frame?

TRAP55
01-04-2013, 3:14 PM
The 2nd and 3rd gen gun parts were made in Italy by Uberti for Colt. The parts were shipped unfinished? to Colt for assembly. They were exact reproductions of the originals, and being shipped as parts, did not have Italian Proofs.
Now here is where I'm not clear, a call to Colt could probably clear it up. The 2nd Gen guns were serialed with the first gen, or so I've heard. That still doesn't explain yours having a first gen serial number.