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donkin
01-01-2013, 4:37 PM
Does anyone here cast their votes on a candidate based soley on if a candidate is pro gun or not? is gun rights the only deciding factor when you vote or do you consider other issues as well?

toyotaguy
01-01-2013, 5:37 PM
Single issue voter here, 2a rights protect all others.

TNP'R
01-01-2013, 5:38 PM
I do. But I have pro gun friends that voted for Obama because they aren't single issue voters. Now look what they've done...

voiceofreason
01-01-2013, 5:39 PM
Not the only, but the most important by far for me.

donw
01-01-2013, 5:40 PM
here, too...if a person does NOT respect the 2A...they surely do not respect most other rights; except their own...

themandylion
01-01-2013, 5:43 PM
Back in the day, before I became aware, and I used to vote, I treated a correct position on the Second Amendment as a mandatory job qualification.

After all, an elected official is our employee, and my analysis and consideration for him/her is essentially his/her job interview.

And even if the candidate were saintly on 99% of the issues, a single disqualifying characteristic, such as being a child molestor, or a Second Amendment molestor, would mean I did not support them.

Dantedamean
01-01-2013, 5:44 PM
I am, I will never knowingly vote for someone who is antigun.

donkin
01-01-2013, 5:44 PM
im a single issue voter for gun rights. pretty much i vote libertarian if a candidate is available and then republican for all other candidates.

i do care about a lot of other issues, but gun rights is the most important and the bottom line single deciding factor.

oh yeah i voted with my feet about 5 months ago and got the hell out of california. LOL

themandylion
01-01-2013, 5:45 PM
I do. But I have pro gun friends that voted for Obama because they aren't single issue voters. Now look what they've done...

Gangster A or Gangster B, some "choice." A poop sandwich on one's choice of wheat or white, that was Obama v. Romney.

Romney, the governor of the most anti-Second Amendment state in the USA, would sign an "assault weapons" ban just as readily as Obama.

Jaxpire
01-01-2013, 5:51 PM
I have always try to be a pro 2nd voter, hard sometimes when it's a new candidate that doesn't have a vote record on the 2nd.

AVS
01-01-2013, 6:00 PM
It's not my only issue, but it's an extremely important one.

Here is a VERY relevant article:

http://www.lneilsmith.org/whyguns.html

Scott Connors
01-01-2013, 6:02 PM
I'm mostly single issue, but if a candidate is too far out on other issues, I'll pass. Ron Paul's isolationist streak really turned me off.

Scott Connors
01-01-2013, 6:02 PM
I'm mostly single issue, but if a candidate is too far out on other issues, I'll pass. Ron Paul's isolationist streak really turned me off.

EL_NinO619
01-01-2013, 6:04 PM
Not the only issue, but I learned quick that they all screw us and screw us hard, So I will vote for the one that screws me and is nice enough to let me keep my guns.

Goosebrown
01-01-2013, 6:57 PM
I am. I also pick and choose my friends based on their 2a position. That is now called a "belief community".

Makes it easier not to slip and talk about guns with those that get all testy about them.

donkin
01-01-2013, 7:14 PM
I am. I also pick and choose my friends based on their 2a position. That is now called a "belief community".

Makes it easier not to slip and talk about guns with those that get all testy about them.

lol, i only have 1 friend who is completely anti-gun, so we have decided that we just don't talk about politics or guns.

CCWFacts
01-01-2013, 8:12 PM
Many people here are single-issue voters. I'm almost single issue. I also take into consideration immigration and (here in California) union endorsements. Usually anyone who is pro-RKBA also has the right stand on immigration and union endorsements for me, so it lines up well.

Whoever I vote for always loses, unfortunately.

twinfin
01-01-2013, 8:27 PM
I reject the notion that voting for a candidate based on their support of the second amendment is a single issue. It's so much broader than that.

Support of the second amendment encompasses the means to assert your right to your own life. It puts teeth in the principal of governmental authority derived from the consent of people themselves. Lastly, support of the second amendment shows that a politician acknowledges that his power is limited.

So yes, I will only vote for politicians that can be counted on to defend the second amendment, but it's not a single issue.

SparkYZ
01-01-2013, 8:31 PM
I am now

SanPedroShooter
01-01-2013, 9:12 PM
Many people here are single-issue voters. I'm almost single issue. I also take into consideration immigration and (here in California) union endorsements. Usually anyone who is pro-RKBA also has the right stand on immigration and union endorsements for me, so it lines up well.

Whoever I vote for always loses, unfortunately.

Take my ticket, pick the opposite, and you'll hit all the winners.


2A is a base line. If you respect that, I can usually assume we see things the same way.

I had someone ask me what if a like communist party candidate endorsed NFA reform, nationwide CCW and all the other things the US needs? Would you vote for them?

If they endorsed all that stuff (and carried it out) they wouldnt be communists....

Could a hard core leftist tow the party line and support gun rights? Maybe, but by definition they wouldnt be towing the party line anymore, would they?

SanPedroShooter
01-01-2013, 9:14 PM
I reject the notion that voting for a candidate based on their support of the second amendment is a single issue. It's so much broader than that.

Support of the second amendment encompasses the means to assert your right to your own life. It puts teeth in the principal of governmental authority derived from the consent of people themselves. Lastly, support of the second amendment shows that a politician acknowledges that his power is limited.

So yes, I will only vote for politicians that can be counted on to defend the second amendment, but it's not a single issue.

Well said.

Its not about the black rifle in my safe, or my ability to hunt ducks.

We are talking about a 'philosophy of government' issue here.

guns4life
01-01-2013, 9:14 PM
In these times, absolutely.

wecf
01-02-2013, 12:44 AM
I am, I vote for those that support the Constitution. There is no other important issue.

teebiss
01-02-2013, 1:27 AM
Single issue voter here, 2a rights protect all others.

My thoughts exactly.

GOEX FFF
01-02-2013, 1:29 AM
Single issue voter here, 2a rights protect all others.

^^ +1

safewaysecurity
01-02-2013, 1:32 AM
I try to vote for the most progun person there is. Usually if they hold the right to keep and bear arms in high regard then they usually stand with me on other issues as well.

Anchors
01-02-2013, 3:13 AM
I reject the notion that voting for a candidate based on their support of the second amendment is a single issue. It's so much broader than that.

Support of the second amendment encompasses the means to assert your right to your own life. It puts teeth in the principal of governmental authority derived from the consent of people themselves. Lastly, support of the second amendment shows that a politician acknowledges that his power is limited.

So yes, I will only vote for politicians that can be counted on to defend the second amendment, but it's not a single issue.

Exactly.
And while other issues do matter to me, being anti-gun is an automatic DQ for me.
You could literally clone me, but make the clone anti-gun, have him run for office, and I would still vote for a more pro-gun candidate.

The Second protects the others...

mrdd
01-02-2013, 4:58 AM
OP, would you support any candidate that spoke out against the 1st amendment? I would not. The 2nd amendment is no different.

adrenaline
01-02-2013, 5:35 AM
I'm mostly single issue, but if a candidate is too far out on other issues, I'll pass. Ron Paul's isolationist streak really turned me off.That's being misinformed. He wasn't an isolationist. He was a non-interventionist. They are completely different if you look it up.

I am single issue as well. Liberty.

That encompasses many things such as economic liberty, 2nd Amendment liberty, private property, free speech, etc.

The most pro-gun politician will be the one that doesn't sacrifice on the topic of Liberty. Even if the politician isn't into guns, his extreme views on Liberty makes him more pro-gun than any other.

jaymz
01-02-2013, 5:53 AM
There are quite a few single issue voters here. They helped CA get Governor Brown again. How's that workin' out?

Tarn_Helm
01-02-2013, 6:43 AM
Does anyone here cast their votes on a candidate based soley on if a candidate is pro gun or not? is gun rights the only deciding factor when you vote or do you consider other issues as well?

Single issue voter here.

RKBA rights created, and now protect, all others.
:cool:

Foulball
01-02-2013, 6:55 AM
Single issue and damn proud of it.

Respect for the 2nd usually means respect for all our BOR.

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CCWFacts
01-02-2013, 9:20 AM
Take my ticket, pick the opposite, and you'll hit all the winners.

Yeah, slightly depressing, but I keep voting.

I had someone ask me what if a like communist party candidate endorsed NFA reform, nationwide CCW and all the other things the US needs? Would you vote for them?

If they endorsed all that stuff (and carried it out) they wouldnt be communists....

Right. No way could anyone support an all-powerful state for redistributing wealth and meeting everyone's needs, and at the same time say that citizens should have the ability to defend themselves, including defense against that all-powerful state. Any real leftist knows that people need to be powerless so their wealth can be redistributed and so the state can "help" them make the right decisions. Others have pointed out a similar contradiction in the idea of "anarcho-socialism". It's impossible. You either have an all-powerful state that can redistribute wealth and make forceful social changes, or you don't. Both far-left and fascism are based in the belief that a powerful state can reshape society. Well, it can, but it can't change human nature, which is why sharia, fascism, and Soviet-style socialism all end up with nightmare societies. despite their claims of creating some kind of ideal or paradise.

mikestesting
01-02-2013, 9:57 AM
I am a single issue voter, voting solely on 2A issues. I'm proud of it, too. The 2A protects all other rights. It's the most important, in my opinion.

SgtDinosaur
01-02-2013, 9:57 AM
I guess I'm a single issue voter. If both candidates are pro-gun then I would look at other issues. This being California none of the candidates I get to vote for are pro-gun anyway, and if they were they would lose massively.

sixtringr
01-02-2013, 10:09 AM
I am for limited government and against any new laws. These fools do not know when to stop. The constitution comes first so yeah, single issue!

Tripeaks69
01-02-2013, 10:11 AM
Single issue voter here, 2a rights protect all others.

^^^ This, I agree.^^^ i am.....


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stix213
01-02-2013, 1:03 PM
I vote gun rights down the line, and when both choices are largely equal or have nothing to do with guns I then vote fiscal conservative. That takes care of pretty much everything.

Dragunov
01-02-2013, 5:55 PM
I don't care where you stand on any other issues. If you're pro 2A, You get my vote. STRICTLY a single issue voter.

Python2
01-02-2013, 6:04 PM
I am a single issue voter, period.

sholling
01-02-2013, 6:09 PM
I'm not a single issue voter - I want spending slashed and the whole constitution enforced, but I will always vote for the pro 2nd Amendment candidate over a 2nd Amendment squish.

uhlan1
01-02-2013, 6:35 PM
Single issue, here.

njineermike
01-02-2013, 7:07 PM
The 2nd A is the pillar on which every other right depends. You bet I'm single issue. All others are subsidiary to the ability to defend them.

manny
01-02-2013, 8:17 PM
damn straight I'm a single issue voter.

manny
01-02-2013, 8:17 PM
damn straight I'm a single issue voter.

Texas Boy
01-02-2013, 8:33 PM
2A all the way!

It isn't even about guns - it is about the power of government to control your right to self defense and own property. If you don't support the 2A then you don't support basic human rights. And if you don't support basic human rights, nothing else matters.

wjc
01-02-2013, 11:31 PM
2A first.

...then I consider your other positions.

johnthomas
01-02-2013, 11:51 PM
If they are not willing to protect the 2A, they have just told the voters they don't plan on honoring their oath of office, part of which says, to protect the constitution. Why should I trust them with the rest of my rights afforded me by the constitution? I would feel the same way if they think freedom of speech should be thrown out. All parts of the constitution is what made America great.