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MrTuffPaws
08-21-2007, 4:19 PM
Port Hueneme enacted something similar to Sacramento a few days ago.

http://www.venturacountystar.com/news/2007/aug/09/no-headline---nb1bottomfeeder09c/

Can'thavenuthingood
08-21-2007, 5:27 PM
Do you know from where this idea for the ordinance came to the City Council?

Did one of them just dream this up?

Was LCAV & Brady at the initial and subsequent meetings?

Who were the primary backers or pushers for this? Any names?

Vick

Matt640h
08-22-2007, 5:50 AM
Do you know from where this idea for the ordinance came to the City Council?

Did one of them just dream this up?

Was LCAV & Brady at the initial and subsequent meetings?

Who were the primary backers or pushers for this? Any names?

Vick

The article said it was being pushed by Brady. It also said Thousand Oaks approved a similar ordinance and Simi Valley is next. Looks like the Brady folks are going to be marching up and down our state pushing this BS.

Piper
08-22-2007, 6:50 AM
It's easy to sell B.S. to someone who really wants it.

Fate
08-22-2007, 7:49 AM
Reading the comments... "if you want the right to bear arms you need to.." Uh, hello? Know what inalienable means?

DedEye
08-22-2007, 9:35 AM
I'm still a little confused as to why this is a bad thing. If you only had to report it within 48 hours of finding out it was lost or stolen, is it such an infringement :confused:?

MrLogan
08-22-2007, 9:43 AM
I'm still a little confused as to why this is a bad thing. If you only had to report it within 48 hours of finding out it was lost or stolen, is it such an infringement :confused:?

Yes. Any restriction is an infringement.

supersonic
08-22-2007, 10:20 AM
i wonder if they would get mad if i carried concealed why surfing.ah nevermind my gun would print in a wet suit

+ you couldn't even get to piece w/o first undressing. That, in and of itself could potentially scare off a would-be assailant - depending on how hideous you look!:smilielol5:
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Rumpled
08-22-2007, 1:57 PM
DedEye,
Look at it this way. You go away for a 3 day weekend. You come back and find your place ransacked and guns missing.
Do you report the theft and admit that you've broken this stupid law?
They never find the thief, yet you get prosecuted.

This and all the other laws are all part of the 1000 cuts. They do everything they can to infringe and chip away at gun ownership and use.

supersonic
08-22-2007, 2:13 PM
YEAH!!!!!!! I just realized something: say you go on vacation for 2 weeks, then come home to find everything (including your safe(s)) gone. You don't know if it happened last night, OR 2 Wednesdays ago!!!!!! I may be mistaken, but do you have to report the theft within a certain amount of time after you discover it OR after theft occurred? And if it is the LATTER of the two, what court of law on this planet (or ANY other inhabited celestial body), would EVER find you at fault & prosecute you for not being psychic???????? I might have it wrong, but if I don't----MY HEAD IS ABOUT TO EXPLODE!!!! ONLY THE MIND OF AN INFANT could come up w/ such nonsense!!! (and that's even making the youngins' look moronic.)
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DedEye
08-22-2007, 2:20 PM
DedEye,
Look at it this way. You go away for a 3 day weekend. You come back and find your place ransacked and guns missing.
Do you report the theft and admit that you've broken this stupid law?
They never find the thief, yet you get prosecuted.

This and all the other laws are all part of the 1000 cuts. They do everything they can to infringe and chip away at gun ownership and use.

I don't get it, doesn't the law just say you're supposed to report it within 48 hours of returning and finding out about the theft?

CavTrooper
08-22-2007, 2:44 PM
Im not understanding what the problem is with reporting a stolen firearm? Common sense would say that you report it when it is discovered that they are gone, if theres a 48 rule, then I think it would be 48 hours from the time discovered. My question is what kind of irresponsible person would allow a stolen firearm to go unreported for ANY amount of time?
Think about it, guy breaks in to the house, steals your pistol, goes out and smokes some crack then goes to liquor store and shoots the clerk in the face drops the gun at the scene. Meanwhile, youve come home from dinner to discover that your home was broken into and among the stolen items was your pistol. So you just sit back and decide to call the police tomorrow? Well the cops find the gun, begin an investigation and find out who the owner is and shows up at your door" Sir, your coming with us. We found your pistol sitting next to the body of a liquor store clerk last night."
you-"Umm, that gun was stolen last night, but by law I have 48 hours to report it..."

sierratangofoxtrotunion
08-22-2007, 8:47 PM
Im not understanding what the problem is with reporting a stolen firearm? Common sense would say that you report it when it is discovered that they are gone, if theres a 48 rule, then I think it would be 48 hours from the time discovered. My question is what kind of irresponsible person would allow a stolen firearm to go unreported for ANY amount of time?
Think about it, guy breaks in to the house, steals your pistol, goes out and smokes some crack then goes to liquor store and shoots the clerk in the face drops the gun at the scene. Meanwhile, youve come home from dinner to discover that your home was broken into and among the stolen items was your pistol. So you just sit back and decide to call the police tomorrow? Well the cops find the gun, begin an investigation and find out who the owner is and shows up at your door" Sir, your coming with us. We found your pistol sitting next to the body of a liquor store clerk last night."
you-"Umm, that gun was stolen last night, but by law I have 48 hours to report it..."

I was given an old single-shot .22 when I was a kid. No idea where it is now. I doubt it's stolen, but I'm sure it's at one of a handful of friends or relatives houses. Is it lost? Have I already broken the law? Do I even know the serno?

RRangel
08-22-2007, 9:14 PM
The inmates are running the asylum. What is happening is that gun owners are being targeted by these politicians plain and simple. Nothing really new because they figure they can get away with it.

What is the argument for such a terrible law?

A criminal uses a firearm in a crime and the person who allegedly sells it to them will say it was stolen? So they want a new law.

Yes, lets put more restrictions on every single handgun owner so that we can slap a few real criminals on the wrist because their handgun was stolen three days ago.

Is there due process of law anymore or are we all automatically guilty by virtue of being a gun owner? I mean if you're victimized you're not guilty of anything, but by God they'll create something to charge us with. If you didn't realize it by now all this shows is the hostility toward gun owners in general by those who would ask for such a stupid law.

Death by a thousand cuts indeed.

It is one more slap in the face to all gun owners and these socialists want the bring it to the whole state.

ccwguy
08-23-2007, 7:37 AM
Stiffer penalties for criminals, not legitimate gun owners.