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1-M-42
12-27-2012, 4:19 PM
I'm posting this in the Curio & Relic/Black Powder forum because the bad guy culled his info from here.

MODS, if you feel this should be posted in additional forums please copy.

DETAILS:

About two and a half weeks ago I received a PM in another gun site, Swiss Rifles. The message was from David, a guy I had been conversing with about our Swiss ZFK-55 sniper rifles. David, from Texas, told me that he had received an email from someone trying to sell him a "ZFK 55 Armorers Kit" David had posted in the Swiss Rifles WTB section and had been looking for the parts/tools roll, or "Armorer's Kit", to go with one of his sniper rifles. The email included photos of a pristine ZFK-55, scope can and parts/tool roll and a very nicely worded description....the catch was, the photos and description was cut/pasted from my post and range report here in the C&R/BP forum.

David recognized the photos and fortunately, remembered me talking to him on the Swiss Rifle board. The bad guy had no idea what he was talking about and kept referring to the whole thing (rifle, scope & tool roll) as an "Armorer's Kit". David went along with this guy and obtained mailing info when he requested David send him $3800....in return he'd send the gun straight to him even though David told him he has no FFL of any type.

I'm LEO in Norcal and had David contact Dallas PD and, since it was an internet fraud, crossing state lines, the FBI. The ATF was also notified in the hopes that they would ignore Diane Feinstein and actually go after a real crook.

Bad news is that since David had not sent the money there was no "loss", so Dallas PD was not going to take action. The Feds, as expected, have not responded. Good news is that the perp is a complete idiot, the only thing he didn't do was tell David that he was a Nigerian Prince.

I'm posting this as a warning to all, this guy is obviously trolling the WTB sections on gun boards and then is culling info from other boards and sources to support his scam attempt. The following information is what the bonehead sent to David, hopefully this will help prevent a Calgunner from falling victim.

CROOK:
Name: Willie Johnson
Address: 1653 1/2 W. 56th St.
Los Angeles, CA 90062
Emails used: williejj101@gmail.com
purplewillie12@yahoo.com

If the MODS or anyone else want additional details feel free to contact me via PM

Bobby Ricigliano
12-27-2012, 5:27 PM
Sounds like an attempt fraud or theft by trick or device with workable information. Too bad the Dallas PD didn't at least take a report and let their DB take a look at it.

Flyin Brian
12-27-2012, 5:41 PM
Funny that he used a physical address and not a PO Box or PMB at a Mailbox Etc. If you look on google maps, it shows the houses in that neighborhood have a lot of the garages at the rear of the lot converted into additional units, so it looks like "Willie" lives at the rear of the property here:

http://goo.gl/maps/CScXI

wilit
12-27-2012, 5:41 PM
I'd try contacting the Postal Inspector. Sounds like attempted mail fraud to me.

pro-nra
12-27-2012, 5:43 PM
Thanks for posting. It's just sad that people want to get other people's hard earned money without working for it (if you call scam work).
Moral of the story: if it sounds too good to be true,.........

1-M-42
12-27-2012, 5:45 PM
We think he's using a third party house, pretty common up here. Obviously, probably an alias. I'm hoping someone looks at it, I've told him to notify as many alphabet agencies as possible

winetoad
12-27-2012, 5:51 PM
Thanks for the info. If only the anti gun group would go there and confront the crook.
Or the the ATF or FBI.

kouye
12-27-2012, 6:13 PM
Looks like Slick Willie has been busted elsewhere too...lol

http://www.romancescam.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=52775

415yeti
12-27-2012, 6:19 PM
That address is in South Central LA. Ask Willie if he's claimin' crip or blood.

dynamomark80
12-27-2012, 6:38 PM
That address is in South Central LA. Ask Willie if he's claimin' crip or blood.

lol then send him the wrong color clothes to let his chosen lifestyle fix the problem.

i wonder if it would be a crime to just start sending him crap in the mail...literally crap. maybe some jars of piss too.

1-M-42
12-27-2012, 6:55 PM
That's a great idea!!

JLMXD
12-27-2012, 7:04 PM
lol then send him the wrong color clothes to let his chosen lifestyle fix the problem.

i wonder if it would be a crime to just start sending him crap in the mail...literally crap. maybe some jars of piss too.

I used to do that to when I got credit card offers.
Not piss or anything, I would send them coupons for Viagra etc.

kendog4570
12-27-2012, 7:49 PM
Send him a $5 "deposit". Then, it becomes mail fraud.

Marcus von W.
12-27-2012, 8:19 PM
Sounds like Pavel Nowak's "homeboy" cousin or business partner. For those who don't know who Pavel is, he is a conman in Poland who advertises all kinds of interesting and desirable collectables at attractive prices, and posts photos of these items - which all happen to be actually located in museums or other peoples collections. He cruises the "wanted to buy" forums at the different major collectors sites and whatever you are looking for, he will offer it to you. He's been banned from all of the collector's sites including this one, but regularly pops back up with a new email address.

GOEX FFF
12-27-2012, 9:25 PM
CROOK:
Name: Willie Johnson
purplewillie12@yahoo.com

Sounds like a dick to me! ;)

Anyhow, here's the street view of the house at that address.

1653 1/2 W. 56th St.
Los Angeles, CA 90062

https://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&safe=off&q=1653+1/2+W.+56th+St.+Los+Angeles,+CA+90062&ie=UTF-8&ei=WTrdUIT3POThiwLjh4DoBg&ved=0CAgQ_AUoAA

GOEX FFF
12-27-2012, 9:27 PM
Sounds like Pavel Nowak's "homeboy" cousin or business partner. For those who don't know who Pavel is, he is a conman in Poland who advertises all kinds of interesting and desirable collectables at attractive prices, and posts photos of these items - which all happen to be actually located in museums or other peoples collections. He cruises the "wanted to buy" forums at the different major collectors sites and whatever you are looking for, he will offer it to you. He's been banned from all of the collector's sites including this one, but regularly pops back up with a new email address.

Yep, I remember when Nowak was doing his fraud on Gunboards. :facepalm:

ArmedCMT
12-27-2012, 9:47 PM
lol then send him the wrong color clothes to let his chosen lifestyle fix the problem.

i wonder if it would be a crime to just start sending him crap in the mail...literally crap. maybe some jars of piss too.

http://www.poopsenders.com/

dynamomark80
12-28-2012, 10:44 AM
http://www.poopsenders.com/

Send him a $5 "deposit". Then, it becomes mail fraud.

Great ideas

Mutant
01-01-2013, 4:20 PM
For this type of person, just sign them up for free catalogs on the net. The more people who do it, the better. Soon they will get hundreds, if you pick the "info-mercial" type catalogs. I know because my niece complained she was not getting enough mail and her sister did this trick. It took years and a move to get back to normal.

Anubis Laughed
01-01-2013, 4:24 PM
Thanks for posting the warning. Another thing I love about Calguns - legit fellow gun owners looking out for each other.

dynamomark80
01-01-2013, 7:54 PM
For this type of person, just sign them up for free catalogs on the net. The more people who do it, the better. Soon they will get hundreds, if you pick the "info-mercial" type catalogs. I know because my niece complained she was not getting enough mail and her sister did this trick. It took years and a move to get back to normal.

at many malls they always have some win a car or vacation raffle deal that some shady company is promoting. just fork over your personal info and you may have a chance to win but what the real purpose is to get your info and sell it to as many companies as possible for solicitation. nonstop mail and sometimes phone calls too. great for people like this.
maybe sign this guy up for catalogs and mailing list for some xy on xy pron stuff if you get my drift. given he lives in South Central LA I would love to see him deal with that chaos.

GOEX FFF
01-01-2013, 8:20 PM
For this type of person, just sign them up for free catalogs on the net. The more people who do it, the better. Soon they will get hundreds, if you pick the "info-mercial" type catalogs. I know because my niece complained she was not getting enough mail and her sister did this trick. It took years and a move to get back to normal.

^^ lol Win!

mike.t
01-02-2013, 11:05 AM
What you mean office i aint done ****

Alan Block
01-02-2013, 6:48 PM
call up the LA PD gun crimes department ad say he is selling military rifles.

cruising7388
01-02-2013, 9:17 PM
I'd try contacting the Postal Inspector. Sounds like attempted mail fraud to me.

That's what is puzzling regarding the reluctance of the PD. An attempted fraud doesn't have to be successful for it to be a crime. It's up to the DA to determine if it's prosecuted but it certainly seems like the PD had enough evidence to at least effect an arrest.

norcal-ar
01-02-2013, 9:22 PM
sounds like this fraud guy needs a package from here:
http://www.poopsenders.com/

norcal-ar
01-02-2013, 9:22 PM
sounds like this fraud guy needs a package from here:
http://www.poopsenders.com/

dynamomark80
01-02-2013, 10:27 PM
call up the LA PD gun crimes department ad say he is selling military rifles.

wouldnt that be making a false statement? not good

That's what is puzzling regarding the reluctance of the PD. An attempted fraud doesn't have to be successful for it to be a crime. It's up to the DA to determine if it's prosecuted but it certainly seems like the PD had enough evidence to at least effect an arrest.

yeah it pisses me off when the Police sit on stuff like this but if I ever threaten any politician I would end up in cuffs asap. funny how that works.
If it was me I wouldnt let this go with the Police one bit. heads would roll till **** was done about this or a letter stating why nothing could be done by the Dept.

oh well life goes on