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Sycoman
12-23-2012, 11:33 AM
Was at my nephews BD party yesterday and one of my girl cousin says if SHTF happens she is taking her baby and her BF and they are coming over to my house. I said I dont have anything for you guys. She said I have to let them in because we are family. I responded with dont come over because im coming to your place and you have to let me in. All Joking aside. What do you say to your family members when they find out you are a prepper and self invite themselfes to all your prepps? How do you break it to them without looking like an *******.

Baconator
12-23-2012, 11:34 AM
You don't say anything.


But you shoot the men first when they arrive when shtf.

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nothinghere2c
12-23-2012, 11:35 AM
i say "you can come over if you have something to contribute"

whether that means bringing food, water, medical supplies, ammo, personal skill sets, etc.

if you're just gonna come over and sit on your rear hoping to be taken care of you can go elsewhere.

Iskra
12-23-2012, 11:40 AM
You roll your eyes at her... and then lay in some more food, water, and baby wipes. Family is family.

Predaxian
12-23-2012, 11:49 AM
This is exactly why prep status should be shared only on a need to know basis.

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ASD1
12-23-2012, 12:09 PM
This is exactly why prep status should be shared only on a need to know basis.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^ this

Gabriel80
12-23-2012, 12:11 PM
I feel this too. I hope nothing ever happens, but when I bring up my preps with my wife and step daughter, my wife says "what about my sisters and her 3 daughters, I worry about them and she has no husband". Uhhhhh wtf am I FEMA? It's expensive and space constricting enough to keep 1 weeks rations for the 3 under my roof, now I should be able to accommodate myself and 6 other women? Duuuurrrr

Sycoman
12-23-2012, 12:20 PM
I would give tips to my friends and family on how to prep. I cared for them and I thought the info would help them start prepping. It surely backfired on me..

bob7122
12-23-2012, 12:30 PM
don't share with anyone who wont help. treat it as a need to know basis. if they find out and they won't contribute then tell them they will not find any form of "welfare" from you...

Carsgunsandchics
12-23-2012, 12:30 PM
Just like any party. You have to bring something for everyone when you show up. Along with a skill set to help the whole.

Mr. Beretta
12-23-2012, 12:50 PM
This is exactly why prep status should be shared only on a need to know basis.

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THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jet Setter
12-23-2012, 12:58 PM
^ exactly. However, it is hard to turn away good family. Just make them contribute or it is TS for them.

AK4me
12-23-2012, 1:06 PM
A bunch of my friends like to joke about how they're coming to my house when the s*** gos down. I just tell them they better bring food, water and ammo.

aalvidrez
12-23-2012, 1:19 PM
i say "you can come over if you have something to contribute"

whether that means bringing food, water, medical supplies, ammo, personal skill sets, etc.

if you're just gonna come over and sit on your rear hoping to be taken care of you can go elsewhere.

+1 I always say you better bring food and water, I won't have enough for you.

aalvidrez
12-23-2012, 1:20 PM
i say "you can come over if you have something to contribute"

whether that means bringing food, water, medical supplies, ammo, personal skill sets, etc.

if you're just gonna come over and sit on your rear hoping to be taken care of you can go elsewhere.

+1 I always say you better bring food and water, I won't have enough for you. En tell them what they should be stocking up on.

badreligion
12-23-2012, 1:40 PM
This exact subject has been a running joke with my family and friends for the last several years. Last Christmas I turned the joke around on many of them. I gave as a gift a can of food, a p-38 can opener and a list. I told each one of them that the can represented all I could afford to give each of them if SHTF. The P-38 was a tool that would allow them to eat. The list would allow them to live. If you come to my house when SHTF I have already given you food and a tool and a list.
When the subject comes up now I ask them about the can, the tool and the list.
What have you done so that you can live?
I share with them various websites, pass along good deals, encourage them to be prepared. My conscious is clear, I have lead them to water.

bloodhawke83
12-23-2012, 1:44 PM
Next time they ask, tell them you gave up on it.

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Librarian
12-23-2012, 2:26 PM
This exact subject has been a running joke with my family and friends for the last several years. Last Christmas I turned the joke around on many of them. I gave as a gift a can of food, a p-38 can opener and a list. I told each one of them that the can represented all I could afford to give each of them if SHTF. The P-38 was a tool that would allow them to eat. The list would allow them to live. If you come to my house when SHTF I have already given you food and a tool and a list.

When the subject comes up now I ask them about the can, the tool and the list.

What have you done so that you can live?

I share with them various websites, pass along good deals, encourage them to be prepared. My conscious is clear, I have lead them to water.

Nice.

Next year, get'em a set of these (http://www.amazon.com/Coleman-Stainless-Steel-Nesting-Utensil/dp/B0009PUQPK/ref=sr_1_12?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1356305085&sr=1-12&keywords=camping+flatware) - http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41SVH2KDKDL._SL500_AA300_.jpg The plastic ones always break ...

speedrrracer
12-23-2012, 3:00 PM
What do you say to your family members when they find out you are a prepper and self invite themselfes to all your prepps? How do you break it to them without looking like an *******.

Well, I don't really consider my nephew's cousin's uncle's sister's brother-in-law (or whatever you said) to be "family". They're.....kinda-sorta family. They can go pound sand if they're not willing to help.

Who is really "family" is going to vary from person to person. You know who is your family in your heart. My family is always welcome to anything that is mine, regardless.

In the interests of being politically correct, tell these "family" members that you have stopped prepping, and now intend to report to a FEMA camp as soon as possible. :D

Xingu
12-23-2012, 3:05 PM
Feed them, fatten them then eat them. They can be a part of your prepping plan. Like beef on the hoof.

jonnyt16
12-23-2012, 3:19 PM
You roll your eyes at her... and then lay in some more food, water, and baby wipes. Family is family.
Thank you. I'm actually quite surprised by all the harsh feelings folks have here towards their own families! Sure, you're gonna have those family members that will take a lot more than they give, but personally I couldn't turn away any member of my family. In fact, I try to prep a little extra for friends and neighbors too. I think in an emergency/crisis situation it will be important to at least try and help other people. Its what Americans do.

Xingu
12-23-2012, 3:21 PM
Well jonny we are all "family" then, no matter how distant. Please pass the dehydrated beef and some ammo.

KevinB
12-23-2012, 3:32 PM
Nothing is more important than family, and great friends for that matter.

If you think you are going to survive on your own, well you are sadly mistaken. Stand alone, die alone. Threads like this and people price gouging on ammo and weapons on other places on this forum tells me the true nature of things here.

I wouldn't want most of you here on my 6.

My family and friends are going to do just fine. We are bound by a common goal, family and God.

Carsgunsandchics
12-23-2012, 3:41 PM
Nothing is more important than family, and great friends for that matter.

If you think you are going to survive on your own, well you are sadly mistaken. Stand alone, die alone. Threads like this and people price gouging on ammo and weapons on other places on this forum tells me the true nature of things here.

I wouldn't want most of you here on my 6.

My family and friends are going to do just fine. We are bound by a common goal, family and God.


I think most of the replies are due to the family that insists on showing up if things go bad are the same ones that call you crazy for being prepared. I myself have lot's of friends and family that say they'd show up. Some of them are just mooches and we're currently paying for them already. And dead weight is dead weight. But on the other hand the ones that have something to add and have that sense of self pride and loyalty can come on in.

Eldraque
12-23-2012, 3:43 PM
I feel this too. I hope nothing ever happens, but when I bring up my preps with my wife and step daughter, my wife says "what about my sisters and her 3 daughters, I worry about them and she has no husband". Uhhhhh wtf am I FEMA? It's expensive and space constricting enough to keep 1 weeks rations for the 3 under my roof, now I should be able to accommodate myself and 6 other women? Duuuurrrr

doesnt sound like a bad situation to me.
lol.

LRShooter
12-23-2012, 3:48 PM
I'd suggest going to Costco and getting the largest bag of rice and another of beans and put it aside. $40 or so.

Hopefully, they can help watch your house when you can't.

Norcalkid
12-23-2012, 4:20 PM
One of my friends sais for his group the price of admissionsis one years food for each person let in. Guess they are planing for more than a little power outage.

rkt88edmo
12-23-2012, 4:21 PM
Was at my nephews BD party yesterday and one of my girl cousin says if SHTF happens she is taking her baby and her BF and they are coming over to my house. I said I dont have anything for you guys. She said I have to let them in because we are family. I responded with dont come over because im coming to your place and you have to let me in. All Joking aside. What do you say to your family members when they find out you are a prepper and self invite themselfes to all your prepps? How do you break it to them without looking like an *******.

Babies taste delicious and take far less time to cook

Baconator
12-23-2012, 4:22 PM
Babies taste delicious and take far less time to cook

wrapped in bacon and smoked....mmmmmmm:D

strangerdude
12-23-2012, 4:27 PM
If shtf they won't make it to your house, family is family though.

amd64
12-23-2012, 5:18 PM
How do they know you prep? Sounds like you broke the first rule of Prep Club.

Sycoman
12-23-2012, 5:40 PM
I always offer helpful tips and pointers on how to start prepping. Not all my words fell on deaf ears. Unfortunately some of my family members are takers and not givers. Yes it's time to put up a smoke screen and publicly announce I gave it up.

Carsgunsandchics
12-23-2012, 5:40 PM
How do they know you prep? Sounds like you broke the first rule of Prep Club.

Most people get a clue when they see a few water barrels as it's not common to city folk. And a stocked pantry, good amount of camping equipment, and it seems that quality and durability rate higher on our lists than price. Along with just general awareness of other uses for things that are common.

FullAuto
12-23-2012, 5:41 PM
This is why you don't tell anyone what you're up to or how many firearms you have etc.

cdtx2001
12-23-2012, 6:21 PM
Most of my family are not mooches and are welcome at my place should the shtf. Besides, I can't watch the perimeter all day and all night for weeks without sleep.

As for my brainless coworkers and other acquaintances that think I'm a nut for keeping a few supplies around, they can kiss my arse...... if they can make it past the perimeter.

I get bashed all the time for what I do, and then in the next breath they tell me they are heading over when the shtf. I tell them not to come empty handed or else there's the perimeter issue.

Flying Sig
12-23-2012, 6:21 PM
This is a good thread on this subject if you haven't read it yet:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=274896&highlight=Friends



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Onetyme
12-23-2012, 8:20 PM
Thank you. I'm actually quite surprised by all the harsh feelings folks have here towards their own families! Sure, you're gonna have those family members that will take a lot more than they give, but personally I couldn't turn away any member of my family. In fact, I try to prep a little extra for friends and neighbors too. I think in an emergency/crisis situation it will be important to at least try and help other people. Its what Americans do.

I think the "America" I live in is a lot different than the one you are referring to.

Toyman321
12-23-2012, 8:27 PM
I'll be boarded up, they can knock all they want.....

My close family would be holding their own or showing up with supplies ;)

Onetyme
12-23-2012, 8:35 PM
This exact subject has been a running joke with my family and friends for the last several years. Last Christmas I turned the joke around on many of them. I gave as a gift a can of food, a p-38 can opener and a list. I told each one of them that the can represented all I could afford to give each of them if SHTF. The P-38 was a tool that would allow them to eat. The list would allow them to live. If you come to my house when SHTF I have already given you food and a tool and a list.
When the subject comes up now I ask them about the can, the tool and the list.
What have you done so that you can live?
I share with them various websites, pass along good deals, encourage them to be prepared. My conscious is clear, I have lead them to water.

I wrote a very detailed disaster contingency plan for my family. Only my mother and one sister out of seven (7) siblings took me seriously. No other family members. No uncles, aunts cousins, nieces nephews, no one

My sister lives in a rural area so we agreed that I would get our mother to her & she'll take care of moms. She promptly announced that she's shooting anyone else who shows up.

A few people wrote "family is family". For that to be true, the other person has to think/feel the same way. If they don't....

I'll help those who help themselves and can contribute with the understanding that....

Just because we are preppers doesn't mean we are stupid. Common sense dictates that not everyone who sits at the able is a dinner. Not every family member has the best interest of "the family" at heart. That person can not sit at my table.

Onetyme
12-23-2012, 8:48 PM
Nothing is more important than family, and great friends for that matter.

If you think you are going to survive on your own, well you are sadly mistaken. Stand alone, die alone. Threads like this and people price gouging on ammo and weapons on other places on this forum tells me the true nature of things here.

I wouldn't want most of you here on my 6.

My family and friends are going to do just fine. We are bound by a common goal, family and God.

....when you have family/friends that are not bound by a common goal why make a bad situation worse?

But I think you hit the nail on the head. Some people have family members who would stab them in the back if given a chance to be on their 6.

The OP asked for advice. My advice is if they can contribute, take them in. If there is any doubt about their intentions turn them away.

X231
12-23-2012, 9:09 PM
People are funny .. Couple of years ago one of my flatlander friends said "If shtf me and mine are coming to your place." I asked what he was bringing besides 4 mouths and he said "guns but I don't have any ammo" LOL .. umm, NO!

Just went through the family thing this week end. The 2 step daughters said they were coming with their aggregate 6 kids. After all the family drama this week end if they show up I'm checking myself into the FEMA camp.

Falstaff
12-23-2012, 9:13 PM
At least they're not eating your preps! We have a a family cabin wherein I've stockpiled considerable food. I have it in a couple Knaack boxes in the basement, separate from the other regular stored food. everyone knows it's MY stored food for emergencys, but peeps were pilfering anyway. Had to lock it up.. Good point, though about family, all the ones that roll their eyes at you now are gonna be the hungry ones with bad attitudes and their hands out at some point...

cudakidd
12-24-2012, 7:13 AM
I have no relative anywhere near me. In Laws at best and they would be useless in a emergency...never really discussed my prepps they would have no reason to come over...but I have no problem saying "NO!" to them...

jonnyt16
12-24-2012, 7:40 AM
I think the "America" I live in is a lot different than the one you are referring to.
Well...you do live in Oakland.

M1Kev
12-24-2012, 9:14 AM
My friends don't know I prep, but they do know I shoot. The running joke at the office is that they are all coming to my house if SHTF. I always tell them to come on down, by the time they realize, process, then believe that S really HTF, I will be long gone. I only share the prep side with one friend and close Family. They don't all have the space, but they contribute some $ to the cause. That said, I'm still looking for redundancy in the breeding stock category so the list is not closed yet...

olhunter
12-24-2012, 9:53 AM
... my wife says "what about my sisters and her 3 daughters, I worry about them and she has no husband".

Harem !

Linh
12-24-2012, 12:43 PM
I only share my info with those I'm willing to share.

I'm unlike most of you, I would share with all my friends. But then again I'm just not friends with everyone.

Linh
12-24-2012, 12:44 PM
I only share my info with those I'm willing to share.

I'm unlike most of you, I would share with all my friends. But then again I'm just not friends with everyone.

IrishPirate
12-24-2012, 12:55 PM
most of my friends tell me they are coming to my place because i have guns. I tell them to bring the food, water, medical supplies, and ammo and they're more than welcome. Then i throw in, or i could show you which guns to buy so you can protect yourselves too. It usually works out. when it doesn't, i tell them i'm sailing to Fiji when SHTF so i wont be around to help.

whlgun
12-24-2012, 2:59 PM
One of the first dates I went on with my fiance we saw Zombie Land in the movies. After the movie she said if the zombie hordes take over that she will come to my house. I laughed and told her that she won't be needed.

We still laugh about it but she better get on the bandwagon or this joke is going to cease to be funny.

Onetyme
12-24-2012, 3:07 PM
Well...you do live in Oakland.

....I don't think you would be to surprised by how many rural communities are on the same parr if not worse than the inner city. Sure I'd rather take my chances in a rural community.

However, I was referring to the nature of people "Americans" in general.

KevinB
12-24-2012, 3:30 PM
Onetyme, pretty sure the murder and violent crime rate in Oakland is a bit higher than Tuolumne County.

You guys are worse than Stockton for Christs sake. Only rural place worse than Oakland is Afghanistan.

bill_k_lopez
12-24-2012, 3:42 PM
I think the "America" I live in is a lot different than the one you are referring to.

I'm good and prepped, and so is my next door neighbor - but our neighbor across the street from us, and the old man that lives next to us - they aren't prepared for anything. How could I turn away the old man or my neighbors kids away if something were to happen? I couldn't, neither could my next door neighbor, so we started adding a little extra now to what we've got incase we have to feed them and protect them.

We would take care of them. THATS what humane people do.

Maybe its stupid, but that's how I roll.

Decoligny
12-24-2012, 4:42 PM
A bunch of my friends like to joke about how they're coming to my house when the s*** gos down. I just tell them they better bring food, water and ammo.

What do you want to bet they would show up with a sandwich, one bottle of water, and a single box of .22 LR.

Onetyme
12-24-2012, 4:46 PM
I'm good and prepped, and so is my next door neighbor - but our neighbor across the street from us, and the old man that lives next to us - they aren't prepared for anything. How could I turn away the old man or my neighbors kids away if something were to happen? I couldn't, neither could my next door neighbor, so we started adding a little extra now to what we've got incase we have to feed them and protect them.

We would take care of them. THATS what humane people do.

Maybe its stupid, but that's how I roll.

Yes but if the neighbors kid was a heroine addict would you feel the same way? What if it was your cousin or even your sibling? Humane people also know what's a lost cause. I believe people deserve a second a chance. I'm just saying I should not endanger me and mines to give someone that chance during a SHTF scenario.

I'll even go out on that limb of being a a-hole. No one should endanger their situation for a known problem.

Back to the op's scenario. We all see this every day. People who do not prep will want in. If there is no other solution but for you (general sense of the word) to take them in,evaluate & decide. However if there is a FEMA camp in the city....

Not every situation will merit such harsh decision. Some will.

berto
12-24-2012, 8:48 PM
Gas, grass, or *** nobody rides for free. Or something like that.

kb58
12-24-2012, 8:56 PM
Gas, grass, or *** nobody rides for free. Or something like that.
And for the women?...

MuddvilleHustler
12-24-2012, 8:58 PM
A(S(S Gas or ammo nobody rides for free

FeuerFrei
12-25-2012, 8:54 AM
It seems that some just like to "brag" about their preps to anybody that'll listen and post details on a public forum. This is the first thing not to do. Your circle of trusted people might need rethinking. To those that will accept strays into the protection you have built, I commend your morals. Give to the needy on your terms as much as you can. It's when others start making demands and threats because they know what and how much you have set aside that your survival is at risk. Someone may decide to sell you out for a share of your stuff. Desperate times will change people. Just free advise. Take it or leave it.


Sent with 2 cans & a long string.

sfbay
12-25-2012, 9:26 PM
Cash, grass, or ***... no one rides for free...

Toyman321
12-25-2012, 10:14 PM
Cash, grass, or ***... no one rides for free...

Threads about family members.... but hey, I won't judge :rolleyes:

halh
12-26-2012, 4:56 PM
Threads about family members.... but hey, I won't judge :rolleyes:

Cousin's are family members... correct? ;)

Guntech
12-26-2012, 4:57 PM
This is exactly why prep status should be shared only on a need to know basis.

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What is prepping? ;)

Carsgunsandchics
12-26-2012, 5:40 PM
What is prepping? ;)

Taking frozen meat out of the freezer the night before to allow thorough time to thaw.

DPC
12-26-2012, 5:43 PM
You tell them You have a job, you have money, you have the responsability to "PREPARE YOURSELVES" I cant prepare for you I dont have the finacial means to do that. You can help them to prepare and allocate finances on a monthly basis to help them be prepared if they are serious. I'm sure Noah seemed like an %#@$$%^ but when those doors closed to the Ark it was for good. He Prepared for 120 yrs while everyone laughed at him. Must have been a terrible thing that day to hear some of his friends pleading to be let in but he could not open those doors.

Oceanbob
12-26-2012, 8:00 PM
You tell them You have a job, you have money, you have the responsability to "PREPARE YOURSELVES" I cant prepare for you I dont have the finacial means to do that. You can help them to prepare and allocate finances on a monthly basis to help them be prepared if they are serious. I'm sure Noah seemed like an %#@$$%^ but when those doors closed to the Ark it was for good. He Prepared for 120 yrs while everyone laughed at him. Must have been a terrible thing that day to hear some of his friends pleading to be let in but he could not open those doors.

LOL..let's not let a tribal folklore/fable control how we treat fellow humans.
The Noah story is not historical. :facepalm:

Anyone who is hungry and in need can eat at my table; friends or strangers.

That's my choice.

kb58
12-26-2012, 8:58 PM
...The Noah story is not historical. :facepalm:
...

But it says so in the Bible, so thinking is neither necessary nor encouraged - you know, using the brain that God gave you.

DPC, sometime for fun, figure out how big an ark would really need to be to hold two of everything. Also, explain how Noah obtained animals from distant continents such as Australia, North and South America, etc. You know, places that the human Bible writers knew nothing about so didn't have to explain away... Don't get me started...

philobeddoe
12-26-2012, 9:07 PM
Tell her she's free to come over, then plump her up in anticipation.

Plump cousins are the other white meat.

rob86
12-26-2012, 10:11 PM
I have a firearm for each household. I will give them a water filter which is cheap, a knife, and a firearm with a box of ammo for that gun. After that they are on their own with regards to prepping. I have given them some basic tools and it is up to them to determine how they will live their life. I have done my part as a family member and if they were smart they would stay. The best chances for survival is to increase in numbers. You can't stay up all night long on watch patrol every night, you can't do this consistantly over time. So the more people you have the safer a person will be.

Sycoman
12-26-2012, 10:20 PM
You tell them You have a job, you have money, you have the responsability to "PREPARE YOURSELVES" I cant prepare for you I dont have the finacial means to do that. You can help them to prepare and allocate finances on a monthly basis to help them be prepared if they are serious. I'm sure Noah seemed like an %#@$$%^ but when those doors closed to the Ark it was for good. He Prepared for 120 yrs while everyone laughed at him. Must have been a terrible thing that day to hear some of his friends pleading to be let in but he could not open those doors.


YES I asked her how about I show you how to prepp? Her response was she doesn't have time. she basically kept saying we are family and if SHTF we help each other.

If a family member can contribute or even atempts to prep i will welcome them. Lazy ones piss me off and i do not want to help. I wanted to know how to tell them (the lazy ones) no without looking like an @ss.

markw
12-26-2012, 10:32 PM
If a family member can contribute or even atempts to prep i will welcome them. Lazy ones piss me off and i do not want to help. I wanted to know how to tell them (the lazy ones) no without looking like an @ss.

There is no easy way. Just be an @ss, works for me. :)

Spec
12-26-2012, 11:55 PM
I just had a discussion with a few family members recently. My wife and I discussed it at length and are now prepping for extra mouths to feed.

I have also given them each a list of basics of items and a small lecture on contributing to the "group" as a whole. if they show up and need my help I will help. I will not starve out my family to do it but I will tighten the belt to help them.

Spec
12-26-2012, 11:55 PM
I just had a discussion with a few family members recently. My wife and I discussed it at length and are now prepping for extra mouths to feed.

I have also given them each a list of basics of items and a small lecture on contributing to the "group" as a whole. if they show up and need my help I will help. I will not starve out my family to do it but I will tighten the belt to help them.

NoHeavyHitter
12-27-2012, 12:04 AM
What do you say to your family members when they find out you are a prepper and self invite themselfes to all your prepps? How do you break it to them without looking like an *******.

I tell them that I'm only stocking up on ammunition - since it doesn't spoil, so stop on by about a week after the SHTF, as I'll probably be needing a nice snack by then. :43:

elSquid
12-27-2012, 12:27 AM
Katrina provided some interesting lessons about prepping.

I recommend reading at least the first post in each of these three threads.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=153978

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=154894

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=156211

The author told two friends that they were welcome at his place, the problem was they each told two friends...

-- Michael

BigBronco
12-27-2012, 7:34 AM
Well I guess they were too hungry to notice the open box of Rat Poison on the Shelf.

jbohon
12-27-2012, 12:35 PM
This exact subject has been a running joke with my family and friends for the last several years. Last Christmas I turned the joke around on many of them. I gave as a gift a can of food, a p-38 can opener and a list. I told each one of them that the can represented all I could afford to give each of them if SHTF. The P-38 was a tool that would allow them to eat. The list would allow them to live. If you come to my house when SHTF I have already given you food and a tool and a list.
When the subject comes up now I ask them about the can, the tool and the list.
What have you done so that you can live?
I share with them various websites, pass along good deals, encourage them to be prepared. My conscious is clear, I have lead them to water.

^^^ This is fantastic! Too bad Christmas just passed. Oh well, I know what everyone's getting for their birthday this year!

omnitravis
12-28-2012, 1:39 PM
^ exactly. However, it is hard to turn away good family. Just make them contribute or it is TS for them.

You mean the fan, we are TS, lol.

These would be hard choices to make. Definitely would make the decision more easy though if they were not contributing and happily sucking up your resources.

stubbornbull
12-28-2012, 4:07 PM
i say "you can come over if you have something to contribute"

whether that means bringing food, water, medical supplies, ammo, personal skill sets, etc.

if you're just gonna come over and sit on your rear hoping to be taken care of you can go elsewhere.

well said, personally, bring all your sh*t, i dont care-i'll rig something up for some reason. plus you might not know their true skill set in a time of emergency/survival or more so...medically

gwanghoops
12-28-2012, 5:28 PM
Tell no one about your prepping.
When SHTF occurs, invite all non-prepping family members to join you with whatever.
Dying together is better than having the minority survive.

OIFVet03
12-28-2012, 6:20 PM
They have to bring the stuff for themselves. I will only take care of my immediate family. Everybody else can come but they have to put in their share.

Sycoman
12-29-2012, 2:04 PM
You tell them You have a job, you have money, you have the responsability to "PREPARE YOURSELVES" I cant prepare for you I dont have the finacial means to do that.

This is a good one.

DPC
12-30-2012, 8:38 PM
The Noah story is not historical.

Yes the flood is a factual acount of the catastrophy that fell upon the earth.


Here is some information that you will find very insightful. Please view the info before dismissing as a story or folk lore.

http://www.creationtoday.org/category/type/video/creation-seminars/

five.five-six
12-30-2012, 8:43 PM
Grass, gas, cash or ***, nobody rides for free.

Rhythm of Life
12-30-2012, 8:52 PM
If they don't care about your families safety and survival by leeching of your supplies and hard work why should you care about them?

Families should have a mutual respect, its not a one way street.

AKfan
12-30-2012, 11:30 PM
Tell them, "Of course, I don't mind having reduced my standard of living for the years I've spent my limited income on storable food, supplies, arms, ammo, medicine etc. You waste all your money on $300 Iphones, trips to Vegas, gambling, partying, $150 jeans etc while I went without so you can leech off me." Then I'd say, "Now, here's how you start so don't show up empty handed or you're nothing but a smiling familiar looter." Folks, need is not a multiplier of resources. People are stupid, spoiled, and willfully ignorant. Without warnings and firm consequences, people become their own worst enemy and now your liability. And yes, this is one heck of a first post. :P

EDIT: People talk about being humane, sure, but they will also want your Premium Items, eg canned meat, fruits, wool blankets, medicine etc. Once you say yes, how can you say no when YOUR supplies run low? They may turn on you and be worse than random looters/raiders you can outright shoot without hesitation. SUSTAINABILITY. Think! You have NO duty to provide for these people who want to go hungry (since they foolishly spend money and do not prepare), FEMA-camp-bound lemmings. Everyone has heard of the 1929 depression etc and knows the world/US economy is teetering. I say let these foolish people eat the rewards of their willful ignorance. In terms of scripture, I would look at two things, 1) A man that does not provide for his FAMILY is worse than an infidel and 2) The Noah flood story (atheists bugger off!)

AKfan
12-31-2012, 12:05 AM
LOL..let's not let a tribal folklore/fable control how we treat fellow humans.
The Noah story is not historical. :facepalm:

Anyone who is hungry and in need can eat at my table; friends or strangers.

That's my choice.

Quick! Post your address so I can send all the hungry masses to your Cornucopia feasts! :D