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ItsPhipps
08-12-2007, 10:02 PM
You probably hear people say it all the time when arguing for the second amendment rights and you ask... "So what happens if they start to take away your freedom of speech?" They always respond with "Oh they'll never do that" or "They could never get away with that." Well if they did then they would probably start like they did with guns and find something that the majority of people would agree against. From there they would just ratchet down until you're in the same position we're in now with guns. Let me know what you guys think about these two events that you may not have heard about since they weren't important enough for the typical mainstream media.

N-word banned in New York
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/new-york-bans-nigger-slur/2007/03/01/1172338762050.html
San Fran city supervisor vs. Michael Savage
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/8/9/213250.shtml?s=ic
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57130
http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/bdsupvrs/bosagendas/materials/071185.pdf

I don't know about you but it looks like some small steps in the wrong direction.

And I almost forgot about the push to bring back "The Fairness Doctrine." For those who haven't heard about that either, here's an article.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200701/NAT20070117a.html

MedSpec65
08-12-2007, 10:31 PM
You probably hear people say it all the time when arguing for the second amendment rights and you ask... "So what happens if they start to take away your freedom of speech?" They always respond with "Oh they'll never do that" or "They could never get away with that." Well if they did then they would probably start like they did with guns and find something that the majority of people would agree against. From there they would just ratchet down until you're in the same position we're in now with guns. Let me know what you guys think about these two events that you may not have heard about since they weren't important enough for the typical mainstream media.

N-word banned in New York
http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/new-york-bans-nigger-slur/2007/03/01/1172338762050.html
San Fran city supervisor vs. Michael Savage
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2007/8/9/213250.shtml?s=ic
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=57130
http://www.sfgov.org/site/uploadedfiles/bdsupvrs/bosagendas/materials/071185.pdf

I don't know about you but it looks like some small steps in the wrong direction.

And I almost forgot about the push to bring back "The Fairness Doctrine." For those who haven't heard about that either, here's an article.
http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200701/NAT20070117a.htmlLuckily, after years of these pathetic Bolsheviks routinely slamming Christians, families, "breeders", "crackers" and Gun Nuts without fear of reprisal, smart people liike Michael Savage, Ann Coulter and many others saw a goldmine market in giving these throwbacks a taste of their own medicine. The "Fairness Doctrine" is dead in the water because the Democrats astutely observed it would "Work Both Ways". Nobody advocating draconian gun control is going to get elected to national office. San Francisco really IS OCCUPIED by LOONS. People across the vast heartland of this Nation are free to say exactly what's on their mind and deal with the consequences. It's going to stay that way too. Talk radio IS BIG. The people who listen to it don't operate the same way protest marchers and media whores do. Times are changing.

jumbopanda
08-13-2007, 12:05 AM
I think New York is now trying to ban the word, "*****".

dfletcher
08-13-2007, 12:23 AM
I think New York is now trying to ban the word, "*****".

They'll have to wait until after Leona Helmsley dies.

Lateralus
08-13-2007, 1:22 AM
the first amendment was killed with the patriot act; even before then it was bleeding on its deathbed.

Rumpled
08-13-2007, 8:26 AM
Even with some recent restrictions, the 1st is still allowed the ability to spray indiscriminately from the hip, with high capacity paper magazines, sniper email, and full-auto; things the framers never would have thought of. Computers and internet and copy machines and faxes etc.

Maybe they should go back to quills and ink.

MudCamper
08-13-2007, 9:51 AM
Want to protect the 1st? Join the ACLU. Seriously. They may annoy you but they are out their fighting for the 1st the same way the NRA is fighting for the 2nd.

It is easy to defend freedom of speech when the message is something many people find at least reasonable. But the defense of freedom of speech is most critical when the message is one most people find repulsive. That was true when the Nazis marched in Skokie. It remains true today.

From http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/protest/11289prs20000831.html

Outlaw Josey Wales
08-13-2007, 12:02 PM
Maybe they should go back to quills and ink.

Technology may change, but human nature remains the same.

Piper
08-13-2007, 12:09 PM
Hm, making something a taboo without any sanctions. Yeah that'll work.

I'm with Chris Rock on this one, they're just using it as a smoke screen to run for cover.

JALLEN
08-13-2007, 12:25 PM
Want to protect the 1st? Join the ACLU. Seriously. They may annoy you but they are out their fighting for the 1st the same way the NRA is fighting for the 2nd.



From http://www.aclu.org/freespeech/protest/11289prs20000831.html

Like the so-called "Fairness Doctrine" and the so-called "House Unamerican Activities Committee", the ACLU is inaptly named to give an impression exactly opposite of the truth.

For most of my life-time (since early in the Truman Administration!) all the ACLU has done is protect the right of pimply faced school-boys to wear outrageous and profane slogans on t-shirts, and wasted a great deal of money insisting that the Boy Scouts of America allow gay men to serve in leadership positions with groups of adolescent boys.

The antics of the ACLU are one manifestation of the cultural decline that is infesting America.

dfletcher
08-20-2007, 5:16 PM
They'll have to wait until after Leona Helmsley dies.

Really, I was only joking.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070820/ts_alt_afp/uspropertypeople_070820164928

Anthonysmanifesto
08-20-2007, 5:29 PM
Even with some recent restrictions, the 1st is still allowed the ability to spray indiscriminately from the hip, with high capacity paper magazines, sniper email, and full-auto; things the framers never would have thought of. Computers and internet and copy machines and faxes etc.

Maybe they should go back to quills and ink.

A stalwart NRA backed California State Sneator published a piece that tried to quantify just that sentiment in 2006 (http://www.eco.freedom.org/el/20060602/haynes.shtml)and was publisehd in the NRA's First Freedom Magazine

SemiAutoSam
08-20-2007, 5:43 PM
WOW what power you have.

What ever you do dont wish me into the corn field.

Really, I was only joking.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20070820/ts_alt_afp/uspropertypeople_070820164928

M. Sage
08-20-2007, 6:06 PM
Hmm, maybe we should PM him a short list of names...? :p

-aK-
08-20-2007, 6:22 PM
No, the 1st amendment was killed in 1798 with the alien and sedition acts, which made it illegal to criticize the policies and actions of the president of the United States. Several people were thrown in Federal prison for violating this act. Blatent violations of the US constitution are not a modern idea, it's been happening since the very beginning. There were no "good old days" when the constitution actually meant something.

Didn't TJ revoke that on the next term though?

Fate
08-20-2007, 8:55 PM
Hmm, maybe we should PM him a short list of names...? :p

+1.

Ve have a new secwet veapon in ze fight for fweedom.