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harbinger007
12-17-2012, 11:39 PM
Sorry if this is a dup, I spent 20 minutes searching for a thread on this article and could not find one. I'd like to have some help in pointing out flaws in this, particularly #8 and #9. Thanks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/nine-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/?tid=pm_pop

Smoothshifter41
12-18-2012, 10:07 AM
Whenever they refer to gun violence rather than violence overall I stop reading. This is just propaganda. If you want more information, read the book by John Lott called More Guns, Less Crime. He's an economist and really delved into the issue. More guns mean less crime overall, not "gun crime" like the anti gunners love to point out.

CalBear
12-18-2012, 10:12 AM
Sorry if this is a dup, I spent 20 minutes searching for a thread on this article and could not find one. I'd like to have some help in pointing out flaws in this, particularly #8 and #9. Thanks.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/12/14/nine-facts-about-guns-and-mass-shootings-in-the-united-states/?tid=pm_pop
The data are always packaged in certain ways to make it look like firearms have no benefit. When they talk about the evil guns do, they always go for absolute figures in terms of total number of deaths or injuries involving a firearm. They don't break it out into suicide, justifiable defense, etc.

speedrrracer
12-18-2012, 10:31 AM
Keep in mind the Washington Post is has good reporting on all things EXCEPT those which are of concern to the White House.

The Washington Post is a known mouthpiece for the White House. Has been that way for many administrations...

GrizzlyGuy
12-18-2012, 11:48 AM
Here is some help for #9:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9926778#post9926778

When the graph includes good gun-related violence (self-defense) like that one does, it's hard to conclude that gun laws are good when they only inhibit having a gun available for self-defense.