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bg
08-06-2007, 9:22 AM
It's not like we haven't been preaching this for I don't know HOW long..
http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=71404f7f-e14c-4b19-ab0d-90c9669ef699
excerpt.

In the aftermath of the Petit family slayings in Cheshire, we all reached for explanations: How do human beings sink this low? How could this tragedy have been prevented? Why?

There are so many nagging questions. They all need to be asked. And maybe some old arguments need to be hashed out again.

Why not a more stringent “three strikes and you're out” law in this state? Connecticut's version is so weak that it's more like “30 strikes and we'll think about it while you strike again.”

Why not speed up the criminal trial process for repeat violent offenders? Get them off the streets. It's been proposed many times. Most people agree it should be done. It never happens.

Can't we better monitor the probation process?

Can't we do a better job of predicting — figuring out which non-violent criminals are about to turn violent?

Are home alarms really effective?

How about dogs?

But somehow all of these ideas pale before the barbarity of this particular crime.

That is why one old question is worth asking again. It is this: What if the Second Amendment is for real? Is it possible that it should it be revered, just like the First Amendment?

Sam Ervin said, “The Constitution should be taken like mountain whiskey — undiluted and untaxed.” Maybe that applies to all of the Constitution.

Is it possible that the Second Amendment is not a quaint and antiquated
remnant of a world that will never return, but an idea as relevant and sound today as when it was written?

Is it possible that we are not talking about the right of the government to form a militia when there is no standing army, but the right of the individual to defend himself, or herself, against both tyranny and lawlessness? Maybe we are talking about the right of self-defense — the right of the individual to take up arms against a government that wants to oppress, be it foreign or domestic. And the right of the individual to defend himself against criminals, brutes, and barbarians when local police seem unable to stop them.

Might the Second Amendment matter almost as much as the First?

I think the answer is yes.

And just like the First, the Second is practical, newly relevant, and far wiser than the watered-down alternatives.
Gosh could it be possible to finally get a positively written opinion from a
place back in the Northeast ? I wouldn't have thought so, but one never knows.

Piper
08-06-2007, 11:21 AM
In my sociology class, we learned about what sociologists call cultural lag. What that means is a group or society that is not keeping up with cultural trends and is lagging behind the norm.

Basically, the socialist elitist like California legislators, the Brady bunch, BoF and the like aren't as progressive as they would have themselves believe, considering 80% of the U.S. has shall issue, right to carry.

luvtolean
08-06-2007, 5:05 PM
In my sociology class, we learned about what sociologists call cultural lag. What that means is a group or society that is not keeping up with cultural trends and is lagging behind the norm.

Basically, the socialist elitist like California legislators, the Brady bunch, BoF and the like aren't as progressive as they would have themselves believe, considering 80% of the U.S. has shall issue, right to carry.

Who is to say we aren't the leaders, and the rest of the country is what is lagging?

slick_711
08-06-2007, 5:13 PM
Who is to say we aren't the leaders, and the rest of the country is what is lagging?

Who's side are you on? :p

Wizard99
08-06-2007, 5:21 PM
Who is to say we aren't the leaders, and the rest of the country is what is lagging?

Because most if not all of the states that have gone shall issue were may issue or no issue states just like California. The other states appear to have moved forward from the backwards interpretation of the RKBA that California lawmakers have saddled us with and the courts continue to uphold.

Piper
08-06-2007, 6:12 PM
Who is to say we aren't the leaders, and the rest of the country is what is lagging?

Did you really read what I said, or did you just focus on the word lag?

ccwguy
08-06-2007, 6:33 PM
And my friends in Canada ask why my 3 boys are on the High School trap shooting team!!! Training for the real world is my answer. Too many bad guys there, it's illegal to defend yourself with due force. CCW is getting better year after year. http://www.handgunlaw.us/right-to-carry-history.gif

Yankee Clipper
08-06-2007, 7:04 PM
It's not like we haven't been preaching this for I don't know HOW long..
http://www.theday.com/re.aspx?re=71404f7f-e14c-4b19-ab0d-90c9669ef699
excerpt.
Gosh could it be possible to finally get a positively written opinion from a
place back in the Northeast ? I wouldn't have thought so, but one never knows.
Regrettably it's the Northeast that has not, for the most part, defended our RKBA even though that is the origin of most of this country's fire arms industry. When I lived there, our neighbor was a Winchester machinist and my Dad's buddy was a designer down at Ruger (later a salesman for Charter Arms). No one was, apparently, anti-gun even in the college town of New Haven. Obviously times have changed and if, we could figure out how and why, we might be able to turn around some very fallacious thinking (even if took a generation, it would be a start).