View Full Version : GRRRRR !!! (Baca, Negrete McLeod, Bloomberg campaign $$)

12-02-2012, 1:39 PM
Please put some appropriate nouns in your thread titles.

12-02-2012, 2:07 PM
So, we see the anti-gun (and pro-Democrat) Bloomberg cutting up one of his own Democrats, in favor of a slightly more anti-gun Democrat. Some progress. Let the anti-gun fools celebrate their hollow victory.

I was particularly amused by the usual outrageous propaganda used by the anti-gun editorialist in support of the anti-gun party line. But we already know that the big lie can only carry the enemy a limited distance, and will eventually backfire. Support for the anti-gun movement has collapsed and the only remaining force left for them is the money thrown around by that hysterical demagogue Bloomberg.

12-02-2012, 2:08 PM
Observe the GOOD part in this article..

a legislator votes fairly decently pro-gun.
a legislator moves away from that stance and votes for antigun Supremes
NRA pulls support for that legislator due to that one instance despite history
.... and that legislator LOSES.

In many ways this is less about Bloomie adding money - than instead INCUMBENTS (i.e., fairly safe seats) LOSING because NRA SUPPORT WAS WITHDRAWN - because they voted for antigun Supremes/judges, and were judged on that instance despite prior generally favorable pro-gun history.

This is what "scoring" is all about.

And it was safe to do legislatively because the pro-gun balance in House has INCREASED.

12-02-2012, 2:15 PM
It's his money, he can do what he wants with it.

Just as our money support the NRA, his supports his own anti-gun group.

If EVERY gun owner was a member of NRA & SAF and voted pro-2A, we wouldn't have nearly the difficulty we're having now.

12-02-2012, 2:20 PM
Doesn't seem like a huge deal. Not sure what you're upset about. The person whom Bloomberg spent money to get elected is pretty much pro-gun. Incoming person is the same party as the outgoing person, so no real power swing.

In her 12 years in the California Legislature, she often voted with the NRA. Former NRA lobbyist Helsley said she "very good on the gun issue." She said she generally defers on gun issues to her husband, a retired Los Angeles police lieutenant.

Anyways, it's the future. The ultra wealthy, driven by their enormous egos, assume they know what's best for the rest of us. They will therefore spend money to herd the sheep as they see fit.

Where do your elected officials stand on campaign finance reform? Ooops...

12-02-2012, 2:31 PM
From what little truth I could glean from that anti-gun "opinion" article, I had no problem with the NRA stance in that race.

The incumbent held true to his party over pro-gun principle regarding the most important gun issue today, the balance on the Supreme Court. The Democratic primary challenger was slightly more anti-gun. So the NRA stayed out of the fray. Big deal.

Yet the stupid editorialist tried the usual B.S. spin about diminishing power of the NRA, and NRA pro-Republican partisanship, and NRA pro-gun extremism, many of which points are inherently contradictory of each other! But hey, the anti-gunners are trying to keep up their morale in the face of strategic defeat so now the biggest lies they tell are to themselves.