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IrishPirate
11-28-2012, 8:23 AM
http://www.guns.com/arsenal-to-import-af2011-a1-january-1-2013-launch-shot-show-11525.html
http://www.guns.com/images/article_images/1354054650151arsenal%20af2011-a1.jpg
http://www.guns.com/plugins/editors/tinymce/jscripts/tiny_mce/plugins/gsynuhimgupload/images/ArsenalFirearmsAF2011A1DoubleBarrelPistol3.jpg

The ATF has given Arsenal the green light to import their double-barreled, double-everything 1911. Arsenal turned a lot of heads a few months back when they announced their truly unique handgun, the AF2011-A1, but many assumed that the gun would never wind up for sale in the U.S., because it fires two cartridges with one pull of the trigger, making it a machine gun according to federal law.

Arsenal maintained that their double trigger design, and matching pair of sears and hammers, would not raise the hackles of the gatekeepers of the guns, and they were right on the money. From their press release:

"The US Department of Justice, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) has officially granted import permission and sale in the United States of America of the AF2011-A1 Second Century double barrel pistol, with a total score of 120 Points, according to Form 4590.

clearly it's not a very practical gun (although it would make double taps a piece of cake), but it's definitely a collectors piece!!! I wonder if there's any chance that it could get approved as a Curio by CADOJ...:43:

The Gleam
11-28-2012, 8:30 AM
Any time new news comes out on this thing, it's the most "duped" topic on Calguns. Expect 4 or 5 more new threads today on it.

:dupe:. :dupe: . :beatdeadhorse5: . :inquis: . :dots: . :krkplk:

IrishPirate
11-28-2012, 8:36 AM
well since it's DOUBLE barrel.....isn't a dupe kinda necessary?? ;)

The Gleam
11-28-2012, 8:38 AM
well since it's DOUBLE barrel.....isn't a dupe kinda necessary?? ;)

HAH! Good point! :D

Euphoria526
11-28-2012, 9:06 AM
That thing is horribly awesome!! I want one. But does it get less gas milage than a regular 1911?? Lol
That thing should be loud and fun.

skyscraper
11-28-2012, 9:09 AM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/245/Do_Not_Want_Dog%20(1).jpg

j0k3r11
11-28-2012, 9:23 AM
I wonder if it takes 2-10rd mags

Euphoria526
11-28-2012, 9:25 AM
http://i1.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/000/245/Do_Not_Want_Dog%20(1).jpg

I want it to piss people off. :D

Euphoria526
11-28-2012, 9:26 AM
Oooh ooh ooh. I got a funny-
Does this end the caliber / firepower debate.
Everyone know that's 90ACP ( two 45's) is wayyyy better than a puny 45 ACP!!!

bohoki
11-28-2012, 9:31 AM
i'm confused how it works does it fire both at the same time ?

what if there is a bit of primer delay one one would it be unlocked and out of battery as one goes off


it would be better if there was a magazine cut-off on one side till the other side ran out

mmakay
11-28-2012, 9:35 AM
I won't say that's ridiculous and stupid, but I fully intend to think it! :facepalm:

winnre
11-28-2012, 9:37 AM
I wonder if it takes 2-10rd mags

Oh no! Yea I bet we will get two 5-round mags in CA!

12voltguy
11-28-2012, 9:40 AM
i'm confused how it works does it fire both at the same time ?

what if there is a bit of primer delay one one would it be unlocked and out of battery as one goes off


it would be better if there was a magazine cut-off on one side till the other side ran out

1 slide

glock 357
11-28-2012, 9:47 AM
3860+ grains of delivery o.0

skosh69
11-28-2012, 12:09 PM
Really?? Again?? Does the search function not work on this forum anymore to see if somethings already been posted multiple times????

IrishPirate
11-28-2012, 2:53 PM
I wonder if it takes 2-10rd mags

8+1/8+1

Really?? Again?? Does the search function not work on this forum anymore to see if somethings already been posted multiple times????

someone already posted that comment....try searching before posting....:cool:

and for the record, I'd heard about the gun before, but never seen anything about it being ok'd for import since (as described in the article) it's technically a machine gun since it fires more than one bullet with a single trigger pull. this thread was about it being ok'd for import and sale in the US, not the gun being in existance. and yes, the search function was used prior, but i'm not sifting through the thousands of threads that came up when i put in "double barrel 1911" since either of those three words could have tripped a "hit" on a thread. If it wasn't in the title of the threads on the first page, I assumed it hadn't been posted yet. If you're so bothered by dupes, don't open the thread.

skyscraper
11-28-2012, 3:16 PM
Really?? Again?? Does the search function not work on this forum anymore to see if somethings already been posted multiple times????

So you realize you bumped the thread by posting? :D

nitroxdiver
11-28-2012, 3:39 PM
If you're so bothered by dupes, don't open the thread.

a-fugging-men. That's pretty cool. Doubt I'd buy one but I'd love to check one out. I bet the hollywood prop gun guys will be all over this.

Interesting decision by the ATF. Of course, they've also been known to reverse decisions mid stride. Ask ATI about the GSG5 SD debacle.

XDJYo
11-28-2012, 7:24 PM
Wait! Is that a DOUBLE-FLGR?

Hmmm...If you're out in the middle of nowhere with a box of chow mein and you forgot your fork, you can field strip the pistol (with the proper FLGR tool of course) and use them as chopsticks so you don't get hungry and starve to death!

scobun
12-02-2012, 1:48 PM
When my hands grow twice as large, I'll consider buying this.

Hurstolds
12-02-2012, 1:57 PM
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morrcarr67
12-02-2012, 2:16 PM
I wonder if there's any chance that it could get approved as a Curio by CADOJ...:43:

The CA DOJ has never or will ever approve anything as a "Curio".

It is the FTB of the BATF that does that.

JeremyS
12-02-2012, 2:28 PM
So what are the IPSC/IDPA/USPSA rules on this thing anyway? I think it would speed up my double tap times and certainly improve my group sizes :laugh:

Bill Carson
12-02-2012, 2:31 PM
CA DOJ will never approve this gun but it will be used in Die Hard 6.

DannyInSoCal
12-02-2012, 2:41 PM
It's a little early for Aprils Fools Day...l.

fullrearview
12-02-2012, 3:30 PM
It's cool... I'm more interested in the strike one though.

Old4eyes
12-02-2012, 5:55 PM
Would you get a discount price if you were an identical twin?
460 grain of recoil might get your attention in a quick hurry.

Firerescuebatt07
12-03-2012, 2:23 AM
Oooh ooh ooh. I got a funny-
Does this end the caliber / firepower debate.
Everyone know that's 90ACP ( two 45's) is wayyyy better than a puny 45 ACP!!!

hahahaha