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ns3v3n
11-26-2012, 9:17 AM
Hey guys, been toying the idea of getting the S&W 625JM, I have a 1911 and am very fond of it, but I am getting tired of picking up brass after shooting it at the range. So now I'm looking to get a revolver that shoots the same caliber. Anyone have the 625 that can give an input? Anyone in the Bay that has it that doesn't mind letting me handle it?? The only other time I handled it was at Target master and the person behind the counter basically don't want me to touch the darn thing since it's "new". Thanks.

DArBad
11-26-2012, 12:19 PM
I also toyed with the idea of getting one a few years ago. What turned me off was the necessity of using moonclips to feed it. Being the lazy bum that I am, I prefer to use either a true speed loader or be able to manually load each ammo directly. But that's just me.

That gun looks very, very nice though.

redcliff
11-26-2012, 1:17 PM
Moonclips are great, very fast reloads and they're so cheap you can have a ton of them loaded up before ever hitting the range. You can use steel full moon clips or the newer rimz plastic clips.

Of the four S&W .45acp revolvers I have, 3 are 25-2 in blued finish and one is the 625 model of 1989(pre-mim, pre-lock, hammer mounted firing pin).

I like the blued revolvers from an aesthetic standpoint the best, although the 625 is a great shooter and the equal to the others in accuracy. It's unfortunate that the 625JM has all the features I don't like on new Smiths'.

ns3v3n
11-26-2012, 1:22 PM
Yeah I don't think moonclips will bother me, I'm more worry about how it will perform and shoots, especially how it shoots in my hands. The internal lock doesn't bother me either. And the finish looks nice to me. Anyone got one I can handle?? :D

Gryff
11-26-2012, 1:26 PM
Krauswerk in San Mateo had one on consignment a couple of weeks ago.

Paradiddle
11-26-2012, 2:31 PM
The 625 is THE revolver for competitive shooting. The USPSA/IPSC guys like the 5" barrel versions, which are rare, while if you are going to shoot IPDA the JM is the one to get as a starter because IPDA has a 4" limit on revos (which is lame because you can shoot a 1911 in IPDA).

If you are serious about shooting it you'll need a trigger/action job where the lock can be "adjusted" so as not to cause any issues and you should have the charging holes chamfered so reloads are quicker. Plasic moonclips are for the range only - use metal ones in competition.

Great guns, but know that there really isn't anything special with the JM model - it is not a tuned competition ready revolver, but it is a great platform. I also do like the bead blasted finish. I handled one at a local shop (in so cal) - they are big but feel good and have a nice balance - like most N frames.

Jeff

3006mv
11-26-2012, 2:33 PM
this is a great revolver, no prob w/ moon clips, just get a good loader / remover tool. accurate, smooth just kinda spendy. don't regret buying mine. put Hogue grips on it though, fit me better. wood was too nice to mess up. other option is to reload .45 autorim
I also have the snub nose airframe model too. sorry photobucket is really slow, will try to post pics later

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/3006mv/PB140010.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/3006mv/PB140016.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/3006mv/P1200212.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/3006mv/P1200202.jpg
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/3006mv/P1110190.jpg

ns3v3n
11-26-2012, 2:48 PM
Good to see good reviews of the revolver, main reason I want it is so I don't have to pick up my range brass after shooting haha. It gets real old real fast, plus I've always been a revolver guy, so I am most likely selling my 1911 and buying this, wish there is a range that can rent this to try out.

Paradiddle
11-26-2012, 3:36 PM
you may want to hunt around for a model 25-2 - a very classy 45 acp revo (pre lock of course) without the full underlug. A very gentlemanly gun that is more akin to the class of a nice 1911.

:)

http://ts1.mm.bing.net/th?id=I.4584332938642448&pid=15.1

ns3v3n
11-26-2012, 4:50 PM
Found a place online that sells them for $770, hmm seriously tempted to get it. Too bad now we gotta pay tax when firearm shipped outside of CA.

bwiese
11-26-2012, 6:42 PM
I own the standard S&W 625-8 - the 2005 vintage, in 4". I've dry fired a 625-JM, and the lockwork doesn't feel much (if at all smoother) and I don't like the JM's grips. Nevertheless it - in fact ANY 625 - is a fine gun.

My 625 easily one of the most accurate guns I own - when shooting with good ammo (or even bulk Magtech 230gr) - it's a "ragged hole in target" gun. It does have the internal lock system but I have no worries.

Action is very smooth, and trigger breaks on a proverbial glass rod. I will be getting Ahrends full wood grips for it as it came with neoprene Hogues.

Buy a whole load of moon clips and a moon clip tool.

jben
11-26-2012, 7:13 PM
I have a 625JM and I agree with everyone else. It's a great gun.
I like the finish. I like the sights. I like the trigger. I like how well it shoots. And unlike Bill above...I like the grips :shrug:

cindynles
11-27-2012, 8:29 AM
I've been looking at the Performance Center version of the 625 for awhile now. I like the looks of the partial under lug. I'd have to replace those Wonder Woman grips though (who thought that was a good idea?).

http://www.galleryofguns.com//prod_images/170161.jpg

ns3v3n
11-27-2012, 9:04 AM
I like the full under lug, LOL wonder woman grips, they are quite fancy.

Gryff
11-27-2012, 9:06 AM
The 625 is THE revolver for competitive shooting. The USPSA/IPSC guys like the 5" barrel versions, which are rare, while if you are going to shoot IPDA the JM is the one to get as a starter because IPDA has a 4" limit on revos (which is lame because you can shoot a 1911 in IPDA).

The 4" 625 and Government model 1911 are about the same total length for the gun.

gorenut
11-27-2012, 9:14 AM
As many have already pointed out.. the 625 is pretty much the standard for revolver competition. Shorter and stouter brass makes reloading much easier than the spindly 38 or 357 rounds. Also as someone else mentioned, you can get Rimz moonclips for casual range work.. something I'm kind of envious of since there aren't too many choices for a 627 8-shooter as far as easy moonclips or speedloaders go.

Stoopy
11-27-2012, 9:54 AM
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/28/hupe2evu.jpg
Shoots very well even at 100 yards.
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/12/11/28/dehyve3e.jpg

ns3v3n
11-27-2012, 10:12 AM
Very nice Stoopy.

kmca
11-27-2012, 10:27 AM
As already said, the 625 is tops for USPSA, maybe for IDPA (I don't do that), but it is a disadvantage in ICORE :)

Stoopy
11-27-2012, 10:39 AM
Stupid tapatalk double post

ns3v3n
11-27-2012, 4:20 PM
Any trouble using wolf/tula primers on this revolver?

3006mv
11-28-2012, 8:15 AM
there is a way to adjust a flat spring w/ a screw in the frame i forgot what it is called it is under the grips it will make the hammer hit harder i think for harder primers. search light firing pin strikes s&w revolver adjustment.

Grumpyoldretiredcop
11-28-2012, 12:43 PM
there is a way to adjust a flat spring w/ a screw in the frame i forgot what it is called it is under the grips it will make the hammer hit harder i think for harder primers. search light firing pin strikes s&w revolver adjustment.

Better to install a different spring than to mess with the strain screw.

Fishslayer
11-28-2012, 12:49 PM
I also toyed with the idea of getting one a few years ago. What turned me off was the necessity of using moonclips to feed it. Being the lazy bum that I am, I prefer to use either a true speed loader or be able to manually load each ammo directly. But that's just me.

That gun looks very, very nice though.

Moon clips > speedloaders. Way faster to reload and a lot cheaper.

http://i305.photobucket.com/albums/nn215/THE_Fishslayer/OSR/Mooned45.jpg

TKM
11-28-2012, 1:41 PM
Moon clips, lots and lots of moon clips.

Then go to the range and try to shoot like JM.

Fishslayer
11-28-2012, 8:46 PM
Then go to the range and try to shoot like JM.

JM is an alien from another planet...;)

scarville
11-28-2012, 9:04 PM
I have a 625 JM and it is a superb gun. Between it and the Blackhawk with a 45 ACP cylinder, I almost never shoot the 1911's anymore.

I bought 100 moonclips fro Ranch Products

http://www.ranchproducts.com/aboutus.html

And this little tool for loading and unloading then:

http://mooncliptool.com/

There is also this if a bit pricey (I have the one for the 686+, not the 625)

http://bmtequipped.com/products.php

schneiderguy
11-28-2012, 10:30 PM
I've been looking at the Performance Center version of the 625 for awhile now. I like the looks of the partial under lug. I'd have to replace those Wonder Woman grips though (who thought that was a good idea?).

http://www.galleryofguns.com//prod_images/170161.jpg

Those are beautiful guns once you replace the funky looking grips:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v419/MTSCMike/Gunpics/MME_4127.jpg

BigBoyPinoy
11-28-2012, 11:11 PM
Love them both!

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/kengulo/20121128_230131_zpsc1392c79.jpg

http://i163.photobucket.com/albums/t310/kengulo/20121128_230242_zpsb323f051.jpg

ns3v3n
11-29-2012, 9:10 AM
I went to my local gun store to look at a brand new one and not sure if it's not a good one or not, but I was not impressed. The handling marks on there I understands, but there's two places on the gun that looked like someone used a small screwdriver and try to pry at it. I was not able to open the cylinder and check the fit and finish since it was zip tied shut. And the crown looked a little funny, the edge of it would alternate from thicker to thinner and back again. Anyone got a picture of the crown of their 625? I asked if they were able to work on the price since there's all these marks and nicks and the clerk said probably not, but he was not sure since the manager was not there. Oh well, it looked nice from afar. Now I'm a bit worried about ordering sight unseen in the near future. Is this what is expected from new S&W nowadays???

TKM
11-30-2012, 1:01 AM
I went to my local gun store to look at a brand new one and not sure if it's not a good one or not, but I was not impressed. The handling marks on there I understands, but there's two places on the gun that looked like someone used a small screwdriver and try to pry at it. I was not able to open the cylinder and check the fit and finish since it was zip tied shut. And the crown looked a little funny, the edge of it would alternate from thicker to thinner and back again. Anyone got a picture of the crown of their 625? I asked if they were able to work on the price since there's all these marks and nicks and the clerk said probably not, but he was not sure since the manager was not there. Oh well, it looked nice from afar. Now I'm a bit worried about ordering sight unseen in the near future. Is this what is expected from new S&W nowadays???

I'm pretty sure that is the way rifling works.

The thicker parts are called lands and the thinner parts are called grooves. YMMV.

ns3v3n
11-30-2012, 9:08 AM
I'm pretty sure that is the way rifling works.

The thicker parts are called lands and the thinner parts are called grooves. YMMV.

I thought about that as well, so I went home and looked at the crown of my 1911 at home, it's pretty uniform around the edge. It might be cut differently?

t0kie
11-30-2012, 10:15 AM
One of my fave wheel guns:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/t0kie/SW%20625%20JM/1.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/t0kie/SW%20625%20JM/2.jpg
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f38/t0kie/SW%20625%20JM/3.jpg
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ns3v3n
12-02-2012, 12:51 AM
Went to handle an used 625 at another shop today, this time used. Was able to dry fire the weapon, and the DA is heavier than I thought. And the fit of the wooden grip was horrible, the right side had a 1.5mm gap between the metal tang to the side of the wood. The salesman tried to tell me that's normal and that came from the factory. I just laughed and continued to inspect at the revolver. The crown was very uneven, and at this point, I'm starting to think most of the newer ones are made with two monkeys with a hand drill. Probably should look for an older, used 625. Sad that quality of S&W are what they are now. They had such a good rep too.

drkphibr
12-02-2012, 8:36 AM
I'm a fan of the 625 platform, unfortunately I'm not too keen on one that has someone else's (regardless of who they are) GIANT initials and a goofy lightening bolt etched into the side plate (I like form and function to match). Grips can be changed easily, but the "emblem/logo/tribute" is forever. Too tacky, distracting and a poorly designed/placed logo/tribute IMO. Writing something in block letters on the barrel or lug would look so much cleaner and more tasteful.

Dutch Henry
12-02-2012, 11:35 AM
Back in 1990 I had a S&W 625-2 with a 5" barrel. Loaded it with .45 Auto Rim handloads which were extremely accurate. W231 powder and 230 grain hardball.

Personally, I always found the moon clips to be a pain, literally, and the Auto Rim cartridges made shooting the gun a pleasure.

Red Devil
12-02-2012, 5:04 PM
Heavy, accurate, very comfortable to shoot.

Outstanding trigger.

Sh*t-can the wood gimmickry and go w/ the Pachmayr Decelerator or Hogue rubber grips.

And go w/ the plastic moon-clips by the Hundred-pack. They work great.



Or, shoot Blazer ammo like I do out of my G36 and don't sweat it.

newbee1111
12-02-2012, 10:55 PM
I just DROS'd one and can't wait for the 10 days to be up.

nn3453
12-02-2012, 11:03 PM
I just DROS'd one and can't wait for the 10 days to be up.

You'll love it.

I've love mine. Accurate, fast and handles really well.

ns3v3n
12-03-2012, 10:01 AM
I just DROS'd one and can't wait for the 10 days to be up.

Congrats :D

shooting4life
12-03-2012, 10:36 AM
You'll enjoy it. I always bring one 45 acp revolver to the range with me.
The 625's are always fun
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2935.jpg
For a bit of history I like to shoot my 1917 s&w. it has a poor refinish but I was able to scoop it up for $200. What's not to like
http://i630.photobucket.com/albums/uu30/shooting4life/IMG_2969.jpg