Since knives and maglites are illegal it's best to just drive around with a rifle

[TonyNorCal]

Well,

Since knives and maglites seem to result in arrest I think it's probably best to roll with a rifle. This would be unloaded of course.

As many of you know it's legal to drive around with an unloaded long gun in the crew compartment of your vehicle.

And, ammo can be close by...but not too close:p

Just sayin...if you're getting grief over a flashlight or knife (both of which are tools by the way)...then you might as well roll with the meanest looking rifle you can find.

:)

[icormba]

Long ago a cop friend of mine actually suggested keeping "The Club" around for ;);) "in car security".

[Socal858]

Long ago a cop friend of mine actually suggested keeping "The Club" around for ;);) "in car security".


are you allowed to bust out a grinder and sharpen deh clubb?

[DIG]

Hi TonyNorCal, are ALL knives illegal? cr@p, I always carry a folding pocket knife on me. My old roommate (sd sheriff) once said that a knife smaller than 4" was ok ...but that was 12years ago. I'm sure the law has changed since. Can you give me (us) a quick update?
thanks! :D

[bwiese]

Well,

Since knives and maglites seem to result in arrest I think it's probably best to roll with a rifle. This would be unloaded of course.

As many of you know it's legal to drive around with an unloaded long gun in the crew compartment of your vehicle.

And, ammo can be close by...but not too close:p

Just sayin...if you're getting grief over a flashlight or knife (both of which are tools by the way)...then you might as well roll with the meanest looking rifle you can find.

Yup....

Q. Mr. Gunowner, how come you're driving around with a shotgun?
A. Because, officer, it's illegal to carry a handgun in my glovebox.

[The Professional]

As far as I know, in most of the states/cities, only the automatic knives are illegal to carry, no?

[TonyNorCal]

I'm not familiar with knife law. I'm not really a knife guy. Although, maybe I ought to get into it (of course, I need to spend $$ on another genre of collecting like I need a hole in the head lol).

My post was just meant to be tongue-n-cheek (with a ring of truth) in response to those posts about people being arrested for legal knives and hassled for maglites.

It is legal to carry an unloaded rifle.

Maybe an M44 with a sharpened bayonet is a good choice..

[ibbryn]

I'm not a lawyer, and you shouldn't take legal advice from people you meet on the Internet, but....

Generally in CA a 2 inch fixed blade can't be carried concealed. Generally, a folding blade CAN be carried concealed regardless of length.

Generally, what I've said above can be superseded by local / city laws, special laws for school zones and on Federal property.

Generally, carrying an unloaded rifle /shotgun in your car is the way for good citizens to go.

[MudCamper]

Good CA knife law guide:

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/knifelaw.html

[paradox]

Or you could mount one of these to your dash board:

http://therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c400.html
http://therionarms.com/reenact/therionarms_c400a.jpg

LEO: “Why do you have an ax on your dashboard? Like chopping people to pieces?”
SA: “It’s not a weapon, it is a religious symbol of my people which I use with my medical cannabis to medicate.”

That should get you off in California.... :p

[DIG]

Good CA knife law guide:

http://www.ninehundred.com/~equalccw/knifelaw.html

Thanks for the info!

[Sniper3142]

I carry a Leatherman Wave or Charge Ti every since day.

I've done so for the last 15 + years and I will CONTINUE TO DO SO!

It is totally LEGAL and the fact that some idiot cop might not know that isn't going to stop me!

They are supposed to enforce the LAW... maybe they better start LEARNING IT!!!

!(@#*#!

[socalguns]

a leatherman "multi-tool" may have a blade on it, but its not a knife by any measure

[bbbppc]

So it's illegal to carry a Maglight in your car for roadside emergency's???

That is ridiculously stupid. How about a tire iron.... I guess I could hurt someone with that, better call Chevy and ban tire irons.

[leelaw]

I'm not a lawyer, and you shouldn't take legal advice from people you meet on the Internet, but....

Generally in CA a 2 inch fixed blade can't be carried concealed. Generally, a folding blade CAN be carried concealed regardless of length.

Fixed blade is illegal to carry CONCEALED of ANY blade length.

Folding (non-gravity and non-switchblade) knives of ANY length can be carried concealed.

[leelaw]

So it's illegal to carry a Maglight in your car for roadside emergency's???

That is ridiculously stupid. How about a tire iron.... I guess I could hurt someone with that, better call Chevy and ban tire irons.

Check your sarcasm sensor.. the first post nearly broke mine. Maybe you're getting a bad reading. ;)

[mattmcg]

Folding non-automatic knives of any length can be carried concealed on your person as long as they have a detent to preference the closed position and have a thumbhole or thumb studs. There are a few city ordinances that disallow the above but for 98% of CA, you're fine with folding knives in your car.

[socalguns]

A stud is not neccessary
Switchblade knife" does not include a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to the blade, provided that the knife has a detent or other mechanism that provides resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade, or that biases the blade back toward its closed position.

[383green]

A stud is not neccessary

"Switchblade knife" does not include a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to the blade, provided that the knife has a detent or other mechanism that provides resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade, or that biases the blade back toward its closed position.



A Benchmade AXIS folder complies with that definition perfectly... yet when you pull back the lock with thumb and index finger (easier than it sounds!), the blade just flops open. The trick is that the same mechanism handles both locking the blade open, and keeping it closed under spring tension. In other words, CA law specifically defines it as not being a switchblade/gravity knife due to its thumb stud and other features, yet it opens or closes with a gentle flick of the wrist once you learn the (easy) trick of manipulating the lock the right way.

I think I remember reading that Benchmade helped lobby that particular exemption into the law books... ;)

http://www.benchmade.com/images/LockingMech-AxisLock.gif

[XDshooter]

A stud is not neccessary

100% correct.


"Switchblade knife" does not include a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to the blade, provided that the knife has a detent or other mechanism that provides resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade, or that biases the blade back toward its closed position.

This does not say at all that simply having s thumb stud makes it legal. WRONG WRONG WRONG.

READ IT AGAIN.

It states that "to the BLADE or a thumb stud".


As long as the blade that has bias to close AND it doesn't have some automatic opening feature other than your thumb on the BLADE or THUMB STUD then it is legal.

[Bishop]

Mag lights are treated as "clubs" (weapons) when they are regarded as weapons. Do not admit UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES that you would ever use one of your TOOLS as a weapon. That changes the status of your tool to a weapon, and it's illegal to have weapons on your person or within reach from a driver's seat.

[PsychoTrucker]

Mag lights are treated as "clubs" (weapons) when they are regarded as weapons. Do not admit UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES that you would ever use one of your TOOLS as a weapon. That changes the status of your tool to a weapon, and it's illegal to have weapons on your person or within reach from a driver's seat.

LOL

I got pulled over about 7 years ago and had a bowie knife under my seat, the officer pulled it out and asked "WTF" I said it was my anti-car jacking device he laughed and put it back

[GunOwner]

See the thread on this forum on the topic:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=64056

and penal code 653k -

653k: Every person who possesses in the passenger's or driver's area of any motor vehicle in any public place or place open to the public, carries upon his or her person, and every person who sells, offers for sale, exposes for sale, loans, transfers, or gives to any other person a switchblade knife having a blade two or more inches in length is guilty of a misdemeanor.
For the purposes of this section, "switchblade knife" means a knife having the appearance of a pocketknife and includes a spring-blade knife, snap-blade knife, gravity knife or any other similar type knife, the blade or blades of which are two or more inches in length and which can be released automatically by a flick of a button, pressure on the handle, flip of the wrist or other mechanical device, or is released by the weight of the blade or by any type of mechanism whatsoever. "Switchblade knife" does not include a knife that opens with one hand utilizing thumb pressure applied solely to the blade of the knife or a thumb stud attached to the blade, provided that the knife has a detent or other mechanism that provides resistance that must be overcome in opening the blade, or that biases the blade back toward its closed position.

For purposes of this section, "passenger's or driver's area" means that part of a motor vehicle which is designed to carry the driver and passengers, including any interior compartment or space therein.

Be Careful about having a knife that flips open - even with a flick of the wrist (as ridiculous as it is) may get you in trouble. I have folding knives that when new would not flip open but now after much use are loose and do flip open - they will remain at home - I don't need the grief. FWIW YMMV

[PsychoTrucker]

a 13" blade bowie knife is okay then I guess

[mow]

Maglites are illegal in cars? WTF? Who says?

[AYEAREFIFTEEN]

Maglites are illegal in cars? WTF? Who says?

I don't think you have to worry much about the Maglite unless its a 6D model filled with lead buckshot instead of batteries with no bulb and dry human blood on the handle. :p

[glockman19]

I regularly carry a Buck #110.

[Liberty1]

California Penal Code

626.10. (a) Any person...who brings or possesses any dirk, dagger, ice pick,
knife having a blade longer than 21/2 inches, folding knife with a
blade that locks into place, a razor with an unguarded blade, a
taser, or a stun gun, as defined in subdivision (a) of Section 244.5,
any instrument that expels a metallic projectile such as a BB or a
pellet, through the force of air pressure, CO2 pressure, or spring
action, or any spot marker gun, upon the grounds of, or within, any
public or private school providing instruction in kindergarten or any
of grades 1 to 12, inclusive, is guilty of a public offense,
punishable by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year,
or by imprisonment in the state prison.