Status of Hunt vs the state of California?AWB overturn?

[Steyr_223]

following this tread...

http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=8&f=11&t=275580

"Hunt vs the state of California is one to watch.

Ed Hunt is the Fresno Co. District Attorney who sued to overturn the AWB because the laws are so convoluted and impossible to enforce.

That case was supposed to have been set for earlier this year but I haven't heard any updates on it. "

[xenophobe]

:xeno:

[SemiAutoSam]

The BaRfCoM thread points to this Iggy DECLARATION.

http://calgunlaws.com/article-477.html

BTW where is the tire you are suggesting the readers of this thread follow?

[Big Bear]

:xeno:

That was helpful. Thanks.

[Bad Voodoo]

That was helpful. Thanks.

No kidding. Take the time to post for a bash an OP opportunity, but don't use it constructively to supply a link or anything.

-voodoo

[xenophobe]

3 mouse clicks and 4 letters and 5 seconds.

Yeah, and you guys are any better? :rolleyes:

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=60312&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=58243&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=54638&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=51019&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=43465&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=35457&highlight=hunt

Geez... is it really all that hard to use the search?

And why the hell do I have to hold all your hands and do the work that you could easily do yourself?

Freaking living in California too long I imagine.... :rolleyes:

[Big Bear]

No kidding. Take the time to post for a bash an OP opportunity, but don't use it constructively to supply a link or anything.

-voodoo

I found a link here on calguns, last post was in May.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=46019&highlight=hunt+lawsuit&page=8

The trial date was changed to Apr 23, 2007 and then continued for at least six months so it looks like we're in a holding pattern until fall.

[Big Bear]

3 mouse clicks and 4 letters and 5 seconds.

Yeah, and you guys are any better? :rolleyes: Freaking (you know what you are :p )...

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=60312&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=58243&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=54638&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=51019&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=43465&highlight=hunt
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=35457&highlight=hunt

Geez... is it really all that hard to use the search?

And why the hell do I have to hold all your hands and do the work that you could easily do yourself?

Freaking living in California too long I imagine.... :rolleyes:


LOL 4 letters? FWIW, I searched "hunt" before posting but I got 20 pages worth of results. Lots of "hunt"ers on calguns apparently. ;)

[xenophobe]

LOL 4 letters? FWIW, I searched "hunt" before posting but I got 20 pages worth of results. Lots of "hunt"ers on calguns apparently. ;)

Click one: Open search menu
Click two: Select "advanced search"
Click three: Select "search titles only"
Four letters "H... U... N... T"
hit <enter>

Viola :rolleyes:

[Big Bear]

Click one: Open search menu
Click two: Select "advanced search"
Click three: Select "search titles only"
Four letters "H... U... N... T"
hit <enter>

Viola :rolleyes:

Thanks, but I already posted the info the OP was looking for.

[Jicko]

Click one: Open search menu
Click two: Select "advanced search"
Click three: Select "search titles only"
Four letters "H... U... N... T"
hit <enter>

Viola :rolleyes:

This is a demo of how EASY to use the "SEARCH" is....

NOT researching, NOT doing your homework first, and just blindly post a thread and hoping someone will do the work for you and FEED you the info is just plain lazy....

That's why I agree with xeno's original respond of: :xeno:

+1 on that!!

[Bad Voodoo]

And why the hell do I have to hold all your hands and do the work that you could easily do yourself?

Freaking living in California too long I imagine.... :rolleyes:

Nope. The symptom for living in CA too long is the lack of common decency to offer to "hold our hands."

:puke:

-voodoo

[xenophobe]

Nope. The symptom for living in CA too long is the lack of common decency to offer to "hold our hands."

:puke:

-voodoo

*yawn*

Steyr_223 is not a n00b here. He should know better. As for you:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php

[Bad Voodoo]

*yawn*

Steyr_223 is not a n00b here. He should know better. As for you:

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php

See how easy a little common courtesy is, xeno? :cool:

It didn't go unnoticed btw, that the "use the search botton" smiley was named for you. ;)

-voodoo

[xenophobe]

See how easy a little common courtesy is, xeno? :cool:

It didn't go unnoticed btw, that the "use the search botton" smiley was named for you. ;)

-voodoo

:laugh:

I know I can be a hardarse, but if you've got a thick enough hide, then it's all in good fun. ;)

[Kestryll]

Xeno I'm getting a mite bit tired of your 'Use the Search' stuff.
Yes, search is useful but advocating it's usefulness to the point of being rude is not helping any more than the multiple questions.

You do know this forum exists in order for people to discuss, debate, ASK and inform, right?

[xenophobe]

Yes, but being too kind and gentle to the less thoughtful leaves the less thoughtful to keep perpetrating actions which should be corrected.

I would imagine that you would even see the truth in that.

[arguy15]

Everything in California about guns has already been covered. Let only have search and not fourms anymore. Just a big archive. j/k

[chris]

just to add my .02 here. there has been no update on this case for sometime so someone asking should not have resulted in the posts i've seen here. this is an important case and since no update someone wanted to ask. geez people get off your high horse and work together! yes the search is usefull but my god.

[Kestryll]

Yes, but being too kind and gentle to the less thoughtful leaves the less thoughtful to keep perpetrating actions which should be corrected.

I would imagine that you would even see the truth in that.

Being kind gentle and educating to the less thoughtful can also lead them to doing it right and becoming yet another voice for our side.

That is the deeper truth.

[magsnubby]

just to add my .02 here. there has been no update on this case for sometime so someone asking should not have resulted in the posts i've seen here. this is an important case and since no update someone wanted to ask. geez people get off your high horse and work together! yes the search is usefull but my god.

Amen. And Ed Hunt is no longer DA.

[supersonic]

Being kind gentle and educating to the less thoughtful can also lead them to doing it right and becoming yet another voice for our side.

That is the deeper truth.

Ahhhhhh..soooooo! You very, very wise man, Janitor Kestryll-San.............Seem very, aahhhhh......how you say....."Wise beyond your years.":rofl2::rofl2:(I don't know, but your last line just.......made me feel like I was on the same thread with Frank Morita's ghost in all his Mr. Myagi Glory!!!)
S.S.

[TKM]

Frank Morita??

[Fate]

He meant Pat Morita.

[kap]

Being kind gentle and educating to the less thoughtful can also lead them to doing it right and becoming yet another voice for our side.

That is the deeper truth.

I just want to add a different slant to the same sentiment.

Equating ignorance with stupidity is an incorrect assumption. I am pleasantly surprised by the insightful questions that are asked by intelligent people who initially ask presumably dumb questions which are properly answered. Once an information gap is filled thoughtful and intelligent people thrive. Give them that opportunity.

[xenophobe]

Being kind gentle and educating to the less thoughtful can also lead them to doing it right and becoming yet another voice for our side.

That is the deeper truth.

Kestryll,

Sometimes children need to be coddled and instructed... other times they just need to be spanked. That is the real truth.

[Kestryll]

Kestryll,

Sometimes children need to be coddled and instructed... other times they just need to be spanked. That is the real truth.

True.
But corrective spankings are delivered with temperence and love, that is when children learn.
When they are spanked in anger or cruelly then it is not corrective but punative and all the child learns is anger and hate.



Come to the Myagi side, use the chopsticks Xeno, use the chopsticks.....





Oooo I'm liking this whole 'veiled analogy' thing! :D
I think for this thread I am going to trade in my hooded robe for saffron wrap!
(Nature sems to be taking care of the whole 'shaven head' thing for me...)

[xenophobe]

:laugh:

[PanzerAce]

this thread took a turn for the weird...:nuts:

[tango-52]

I think for this thread I am going to trade in my hooded robe for saffron wrap!

Just don't use Saran wrap. That is a vision none of us need!:D

[Rob P.]

this thread took a turn for the weird...:nuts:

Yeah, but the jello is just fine.

[chris]

Kestryll,

Sometimes children need to be coddled and instructed... other times they just need to be spanked. That is the real truth.

As by this statement the arrogance of gun owners in this state. this attitude is why we are in the mess were in. if we cannot work together then screw it!

we either work together to educate new members here and the public or we will lose it's just that dam simple!

[xenophobe]

As by this statement the arrogance of gun owners in this state. this attitude is why we are in the mess were in. if we cannot work together then screw it!

we either work together to educate new members here and the public or we will lose it's just that dam simple!

This is the exact ignorance that I say children should get spanked for. :rolleyes:

Please bother to READ the first and second post of this thread, and also take note, the "new" member who created the thread.

Jeez, some people need to wake up and pay attention. :rolleyes:

[Socal858]

i like cheeseburger

[Zhukov]

i like cheeseburger

i prefer when you add some bacon to it

[xenophobe]

Mayonnaise is the ticket.

[Socal858]

sauteed onions too, cmon. and a little bit of lettuce with bacon on top


i like putting hte mayo on the bottom wtih a lot of ground pepper, once the grease hits it, its like a sauce

[Zhukov]

i'll have to try that

[PanzerAce]

Personally, I'm a purist. My burgers consist of the bun, two patties, two slices of cheese, some ketchup, and some mustard, and that is it.

[xenophobe]

ketchup ruins the hamburger...

It's as bad as putting BBQ sauce on steak. :P

[Budd]

You guys got it all wrong.

Sauce:
Mayonaise/Mustard/garlic/lime juice

BBQ hamburger
Slather sauce on both buns.
Swiss cheese on each bun
Slice of ham
Kosher dill pickle slice

Assemble and wrap in foil.

Place back on BBQ - set brick on top. Put it in indirect heat and let each side slow cook for about 2 minutes a side to brown the buns a tad.(Time depends on how hot fire)

Unwrap and enjoy.

[Piper]

This is way too funny. I go to the last page of this thread about the AWB lawsuit and all I see is hamburger making techniques. I guess I'll have to read this thread in its entirety to see how this thread evolved, or is it devolved?:D

[Rob P.]

i like cheeseburger

At the risk of sounding like a liberal arts major....

You want fries wit dat?

[Socal858]

At the risk of sounding like a liberal arts major....

You want fries wit dat?

bacon cheese please. with the real cheese not that liquid crap



i used to make burgers where i mixed in oregano, thyme, and chopped onions. freakin amazing. the cheese i melted on it was sliced sharp cheddar (i hate the kraft singlestype cheeses); and top it wtih sliced grilled portabella and avocado

[xenophobe]

xeno ketchup does not ruin hamburgers.thats all i eat on burgers.what i do is pile on a healthy amount on both sides of the patty.so you get bun ketchup patty ketchup bun.after doing so i dip into some more ketchup.mmm good. people tell me i'm gunna get an ulser or something.i usually respond by taking another bite

That's just.... so really... very very wrong. :puke:

[Rhys898]

i do really eat them like that.i get all sorts of bad looks.especially when i eat ketchup on a chile reano

I hope you are smited by the epicurean gods!

[fairfaxjim]

who are the epicurean gods

Don't worry, you'll know them when they come to drag your sorry butt away!
I bet you would put ketchup on prime rib. 'Scuse me, I gotta go puke.

[Rob P.]

I know a guy who is a ketchup-a-holic. Puts ketchup on EVERYTHING.

He absolutely hates tomatoes. Go figure.

[bwiese]

I know a guy who is a ketchup-a-holic. Puts ketchup on EVERYTHING.

He absolutely hates tomatoes. Go figure.

Kinda like me. Not a huge catsup fan, as I like my catsup adultered properly, in the form of Heinz 57 steak sauce - I guzzle that stuff.

(BTW: the $1.29 bottle of identical-appearing private-labelled steak sauce at WalMart appears to be *exactly the same* as Heinz 57 in taste and consistency. Heinz 57 often sells for $3-$5/bottle depending on size.

[spgk380]

Kinda like me. Not a huge catsup fan, as I like my catsup adultered properly, in the form of Heinz 57 steak sauce - I guzzle that stuff.

(BTW: the $1.29 bottle of identical-appearing private-labelled steak sauce at WalMart appears to be *exactly the same* as Heinz 57 in taste and consistency. Heinz 57 often sells for $3-$5/bottle depending on size.

For being "not a huge catsup fan" you appear to be quite the ketchup connoisseur with your pallet's keen sense of taste and consistency to the intricacies of WalMart ketchup.

[PanzerAce]

Same here. Ketchup goes good for me on alot of stuff (well, not steaks/ribs), but I can't stand tomatos

[tmuller]

love ketchup...love tomatoes...hate AW ban

what a thread!!

[xenophobe]

Bill, I love Lea & Perrins and A1, but I can't even bear to put them on any decent slab of meat, which tastes truly awesome without any additives except a light sprinkle of salt AFTER it's done cooking...

I'm thinking pan seared ribeye, skirt/flank steak, NY, or any other Prime cut... putting any additional flavoring on them is like a crime.


only when its cold.i also eat ketchup on turkey,fries, fried and baked chicken, steak(not tri tip off the bbq thats not right)potatos that have been cooked and put in the refer

See, you're just wrong....

I wonder if there is a defective gene for ketchup dependency... :confused:

[Rob P.]

Bill, I love Lea & Perrins and A1, but I can't even bear to put them on any decent slab of meat, which tastes truly awesome without any additives except a light sprinkle of salt AFTER it's done cooking...

Try this. On a plate mix some coarse sea or kosher salt w/ cumin, black pepper, and garlic powder. Roll the steak EDGES in the mixture and then cook. This is best if steaks aren't so big that you can't have some of the "crust" with each bite. You can also use the spice coating for prime rib and do this.

For great steaks without a grill; heat your oven to 350*. Use an oven safe ribbed pan and heat over med heat until pan is hot. Add steaks (edged as above) and cook until pan lets go and you can flip the steaks. Once the steaks are flipped, immediately put pan in oven and "bake" for 5-7 mins or until desired level of doneness.

Using this method you can have well done steaks without them being jerky dry.

Maybe we need a guns and cooking forum?

[xenophobe]

Try this. On a plate mix some coarse sea or kosher salt w/ cumin, black pepper, and garlic powder. Roll the steak EDGES in the mixture and then cook. This is best if steaks aren't so big that you can't have some of the "crust" with each bite. You can also use the spice coating for prime rib and do this.

That sounds pretty good. I'd personally leave the salt out of it, but I may have to try that.



For great steaks without a grill; heat your oven to 350*. Use an oven safe ribbed pan and heat over med heat until pan is hot. Add steaks (edged as above) and cook until pan lets go and you can flip the steaks. Once the steaks are flipped, immediately put pan in oven and "bake" for 5-7 mins or until desired level of doneness.

Using this method you can have well done steaks without them being jerky dry.

Maybe we need a guns and cooking forum?

If it ain't a bleedin', I ain't gonna be a feedin'... I like my steaks RARE thank you. :)

Pan fry, maximum heat, sear it on each side for a minute, two minutes each side if it's > 1" thick, until it's beautifully dark brown carmelized.... then turn to medium low heat for another 3-4 minutes on each side. Pull it out of the pan, put it on a plate and let the steak sit for about 5-7 minutes so it can finish cooking, and viola! you have a beautifully rare steak with the most minimal 'well done' seared sides.

It's a beautiful thing, and a good rib-eye like this will practically melt in your mouth.

[RudyN]

What I like is Ketchup and Mustard mixed. It makes a BBQ sauce that is not to strong as long as you don't use to much.

[Fjold]

That sounds pretty good. I'd personally leave the salt out of it, but I may have to try that.




If it ain't a bleedin', I ain't gonna be a feedin'... I like my steaks RARE thank you. :)

Pan fry, maximum heat, sear it on each side for a minute, two minutes each side if it's > 1" thick, until it's beautifully dark brown carmelized.... then turn to medium low heat for another 3-4 minutes on each side. Pull it out of the pan, put it on a plate and let the steak sit for about 5-7 minutes so it can finish cooking, and viola! you have a beautifully rare steak with the most minimal 'well done' seared sides.

It's a beautiful thing, and a good rib-eye like this will practically melt in your mouth.


+1, a little salt and pepper and enjoy.

People who put sauces on steak are just people who don't know how to cook a steak.

[socalguns]

I know a guy who is a ketchup-a-holic. Puts ketchup on EVERYTHING.

He absolutely hates tomatoes. Go figure.

Love the smell, love the taste, but smell+texture disgusts me.
Ketchup/juice/sauce is the only form of tomato for me.

[SemiAutoSam]

Ill toss in a opinion as I know everyone here wants to know mine.

I cant stand Ketchup / Catsup mainly for the sugar and or vinegar content.

I love tomato sauce and other tomato products as I'm Married to a lovely Italian woman that is the best cook I have ever known.

Cant stand Mayo either for 99% of things but it is a must on artichokes.

I only put Mustard on a hot dog or hamburger however.

[xenophobe]

Ketchup + Salt + Pepper, thoroughly mixed is great for french fries.

Any other use of ketchup is basically involuntary.

I like tomatos whole and I'll eat them rare. I do not like them cooked (unless they're burned black) and do not like them as a garnish on anything, even salad.

+1, a little salt and pepper and enjoy.

People who put sauces on steak are just people who don't know how to cook a steak.

Yeah, a little salt and pepper on it after it's done... though sometimes I'll put the salt on after the sides are seared/sealed...

I absolutely love the taste of A1 steak sauce, but I wouldn't dare put it on a piece of naturally great tasting meat.

[M. Sage]

:threadjacked:

[thedrickel]

Uhhh. . . . IBTL?

[Kestryll]

Uhhh. . . . IBTL?

I want to be 'In Before The Luncheon' too....


If this keeps up I may well do a cooking forum! :D ;)

[Smokeybehr]

IBTL!

I do my steaks/burgers really simply: fresh ground pepper and garlic powder rubbed into both sides of the meat. I've sauteed chicken breasts the same way. No salt, since it sucks the juices out of the meat.

Inside the burgers, I put finely diced onions, chopped garlic, and a little parsley. Swiss cheese, a leaf of Butter or Red Leaf lettuce, a thinly sliced tomato, and a swipe of mayo on either side makes it perfect. I've also done mushrooms in a red wine reduction to go on the burgers...

I like a little ketchup on my fries from Wendys or In-N-Out, but not from anywhere else. I'll eat the other kinds with mustard and mayo mixed half-and-half.

[xenophobe]

I'll start a new thread in off topic...

[bwiese]

I'll rejack the thread back to its topic...

...Hunt case is not the destination, it's the road ;)

[Yankee Clipper]

I'll rejack the thread back to its topic...

...Hunt case is not the destination, it's the road ;)

Thank you!