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MilitaryArms
11-01-2012, 7:27 AM
During SHOT Show 2012 I ran across the then prototype GSG StG44 .22LR rifle. Here's the video from SHOT.

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I placed my order as soon as distributors started taking orders. The rifle arrived last week and so far it looks and feels very similar to the prototype I handled at SHOT, however I did notice a few minor changes to the rifle. The charging handle how has a return spring and the wood buttstock isn't glossed like the prototype but instead is simply stained. There are a few other minor changes but I won't go into all of them.

The rifle is made of cast metal and stampings. It has the heft and feel of a real StG44, it does not feel like a .22LR rifle at all. The new StG44 a step above the quality of their MP5 clones, IMHO. This rifle is so hefty it tips the scales at 9.7lbs!

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-mP8fsXP/0/L/i-mP8fsXP-L.jpg

The first rifles to come into the country will ship in a wooden crate. What I was told at SHOT what that the crates would not come with the rifle after the first shipment. I don't know if this has changed.

The wooden crate is nicely made and goes great with the rifle.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-rVZf3rq/0/L/i-rVZf3rq-L.jpg

Inside the crate you will find the rifle stored with the buttstock removed and all of the components wrapped in plastic. The rifle and stock are held securely in place with wooden slots that are screwed down and have spray foam padding them.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-DnbWpcV/0/L/i-DnbWpcV-L.jpg

Once you get the rifle out of the crate it's a simple matter of sliding the stock onto the receiver and inserting the supplied take down pin into its proper hole. At that point the rifle is ready for action.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-j2529sN/0/L/i-j2529sN-L.jpg

The detail is stunning on the rifle. All of the reinforcement ribs and rivets that exist on the original WWII sheet metal rifle are replicated in exacting detail on the GSG rifle. I've had the pleasure of inspecting a real WWII era StG44 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GeZpr9v_cHw) and I can say, this is a VERY close facsimile.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-dWLtdp4/0/L/i-dWLtdp4-L.jpg

Field stripping the GSG rifle is accomplished the same way as you would field strip an original rifle. You push the take down pin out, remove the buttstock, swing the pistol grip/trigger group down and pull the bolt and carrier along with the associated springs and small parts out of the rear.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-JdZvPhG/0/L/i-JdZvPhG-L.jpg

The bolt and carrier are very similar to a .22 conversion kit for an AR-15. It's a self contained unit that looks fairly well built. All of the components of the bolt and carrier are made of metal.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-WKQN3H7/0/L/i-WKQN3H7-L.jpg

The rifle includes a single 24 round polymer magazine that also seems fairly well built. It inserts and locks into place just like the original WWII era rifle.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-pzFs8KL/0/L/i-pzFs8KL-L.jpg

The rifle features cast metal sights which again are very close in design to the original WWII era sights. The rear sight is slightly different in that it features a RPK style windage adjustment system. You can dial in windage by turning the small wheel on the left side of the sights which then moves the rear blade either right or left. I suspect this was done because the front sight is cast solid and is not windage adjustable.

http://www.intempusphotography.com/photos/i-V9tzcDH/0/L/i-V9tzcDH-L.jpg

The rifles have hit their target price retail of $599 which as of right now includes the wooden crate at no extra charge. If you shop around it should be possible to find these at $550 or less.

Stay tuned for a full shooting review to be posted on my YouTube channel: http://www.military-arms.com

CV62
11-01-2012, 7:51 AM
Very nice! I love the details. Definitely going to be on my list to get in the future.

skyblue
11-01-2012, 7:59 AM
Thanks for posting!! I've been saving pennies and waiting for these to show up on the self ever since they were announced, and I eagerly look forward to your review!! I guess that the wooden crate will only be included with the first shipment, just as the blue Sig cases were only included with the first shipment of 552s..

JackRydden224
11-01-2012, 8:03 AM
9 lbs for a .22 rifle is pretty awesome....

I wonder if there will ever be a scope mount of it since my eyes don't exactly like open sights.

skyblue
11-01-2012, 8:59 AM
or perhaps a side mount can be sold as an option to mount a replica ZF4 scope:

http://talks.guns.ru/forums/icons/forum_pictures/000318/318013.jpg

http://www.ww2incolor.com/d/149363-6/scopedstg44%23

CAL.BAR
11-01-2012, 9:14 AM
A ten lb .22! That's one pound for every round your limited to in the mag. Have to take a pass until the make it in a "big boy" caliber.

TheSherThang
11-01-2012, 6:15 PM
That's one good looking replica.

acolytes
11-02-2012, 9:47 AM
Oooh lala! I want!

redcliff
11-02-2012, 9:55 AM
I want a real one, but I have to admit I'd buy the .22lr version if I saw one.

Have these hit any of the shops in SoCal yet? You guys seem to get stuff before we see it way up North where I'm at.

Speedpower
11-02-2012, 1:21 PM
Let's hope Turners bring them in soon!

modernchaos
11-03-2012, 8:04 PM
We did this video and quick review of one, my buddy had been wanting to get one bad! :cool:

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oddjob
11-03-2012, 8:55 PM
Professional Firearms in Lodi had one. It sold today. I got to handle it....Its a heavy .22, very cool though.

skyblue
11-03-2012, 9:15 PM
You guys think Big 5 will carry it? I was hoping to use the latest coupon so I went to check my local store, but the manager said that he was pretty sure that they wouldn't be stocking it. I call BS since they already sell a lot of ATI products, so there is no reason that they'd hold back on the STG when it becomes more readily available....On another note, Big 5's latest coupon made the S&W 15-22 awfully tempting at around $450. It took everything I had to walk out of the store without one, lol!

40SWGlock
11-03-2012, 11:24 PM
Dam another 22 I want to get now. Think this will be moving to the top of the list if I find one locally.
MAC , i recently became a subscriber to your YouTube channel. I didn't know you posted here on Calguns. Love your reviews, keep up the good work.

modernchaos
11-04-2012, 9:25 AM
BTW, to the OP I didnt mean to thread jack. I just got excited to see the discussion, being as we had just done our video, and thought it would be cool to drop it in for others to see.

Nice pics too, BTW. And I had already seen your Shot video, months ago!

RobGR
11-04-2012, 9:53 AM
Considering the original StG 44 weighed 11.5 lb unloaded, I'm all for less weight!

What a great replica, so tempted..... ah, but my want list just keeps expanding.

TaoFlederMaus
12-29-2012, 10:02 PM
I had to have this gun and bought one as a Christmas present. I really like the build quality of it. Yes, it is a very expensive .22 and you either get-it or you don't -- as far as wanting to own something like this.

The gun I purchased came with the 25rd magazine despite being sold in California. The shop disassembled the mag before I left the shop making it a "parts kit". The magazine can be set to hold 2, 10, 15, 25, or even 28 rounds by moving a block inside the magazine to different settings.

I like the fact the gun field strips easy and without any tools. Other GSG (ATI) .22's are not so easy to disassemble.

nothinghere2c
12-29-2012, 10:07 PM
thats frickin awesome!

ham
12-29-2012, 10:19 PM
Let's hope Turners bring them in soon!

we had one in stock about a month ago, definitely a head-turner! i know its on at least two employees G.A.S. lists.:D:D

freonr22
12-29-2012, 10:24 PM
Is the orange on the bolt pic rust?

TaoFlederMaus
12-30-2012, 12:03 AM
Is the orange on the bolt pic rust?

No, it isn't rust. It is sort of a copper-wash. I'm not really sure why it is there.

40SWGlock
12-30-2012, 9:07 PM
I want one! Haven't seen one for sale anywhere in Socal. Anyone know where I could get one?

INFAMOUS762X39
12-30-2012, 10:29 PM
That's awesome, a MP-40 .22 would be pretty cool as well.

MAC I didn't know you posted on calguns, I watch your Videos all the time!

mosinnagantm9130
12-30-2012, 11:07 PM
I want one of these really bad.

GM4spd
12-31-2012, 4:19 AM
I think retail price is under $700 but no telling what they will actually
sell for now:confused: I am trying to order one today for $549!!!
+$25 shipping (with that heavy crate)!!Pete

xibunkrlilkidsx
12-31-2012, 9:27 AM
and here i thought i was over the 22lr.....
****. my credit card is going to hate me.

Aweesome video in your post OP. Cant believe you got to palm an original STG44!.... that makes me feel like a little kid all gitty and jealous.

TaoFlederMaus
12-31-2012, 9:00 PM
I just bought a K98 reproduction sling for my STG44 and now the rifle is complete. Here is a quick tutorial explaining the installation.

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pennys dad
12-31-2012, 9:21 PM
a buddy brought one to the range today.
Very cool rifle!
Shoot well and feels great. I only fired about 25 rounds, so I dont have much info.

pennys dad
12-31-2012, 9:22 PM
a buddy brought one to the range today.
Very cool rifle!
Shoot well and feels great. I only fired about 25 rounds, so I dont have much info.

Rough Gear Review
01-02-2013, 3:50 PM
I picked one up at Turners in San Diego a couple of weeks ago. I wasnt a big fan of GSG since I have a GSG 522PK and I have both Umarex MP5's and the Umarex UZI. I just liked the quality of the Umarex imported stuff from Walther better. But I will give it to GSG this time, the STG-44 looks, feels and performs awesome. Cant wait to see what they will have a Shot Show this year.

Colt562
01-02-2013, 3:55 PM
I've had the pleasure to shoot one of these and they are amazing little shooters.