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tay
07-17-2007, 1:08 PM
This topic has been discussed, however since now they have a website and name associated with it.

Also, they have it for the Ruger 10/22.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.asp?User=718067
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZvioletmnm1982QQhtZ-1

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/076220000/76220323/pix2890773859.jpg

Check out the video:
http://kestrelfire.com/videos.html

sardaukar
07-17-2007, 1:37 PM
This is sweet. I wouldn't need to modify an airsoft shell.

69Mach1
07-17-2007, 6:15 PM
They need to do one with a G36 shell.........:drool5:
http://www.advanced-armament.com/images/fullpic/g36.jpg
....and yes, I already emailed them asking about it.:D

tiger222
07-17-2007, 6:20 PM
They need to do one with a G36 shell.........:drool5:
http://www.advanced-armament.com/images/fullpic/g36.jpg
....and yes, I already emailed them asking about it.:D


i would buy another 10/22 just to do this set up!

iridesportbikes
07-17-2007, 7:52 PM
They need to do one with a G36 shell.........:drool5:
http://www.advanced-armament.com/images/fullpic/g36.jpg
....and yes, I already emailed them asking about it.:D



Or you can do it your self like I did.

http://home.comcast.net/~ericw023/G36_14.jpg

ask80
07-17-2007, 8:47 PM
ok that thing looks weird with 2 magazines sticking out

SkyMag68
07-17-2007, 8:56 PM
:cool2:..interesting i want one

E Pluribus Unum
07-17-2007, 8:59 PM
Gay.... $300 for a stock that fits a $200 gun.

Comeon guys.... buy another gun instead! :)

Scouter
07-17-2007, 9:27 PM
Gay.... $300 for a stock that fits a $200 gun.

Comeon guys.... buy another gun instead! :)

That's like buying those huge 24" rims I see on ugly *** Caprices, 8,000$ rims on a $1,000 car. LMAO

iridesports, that looks nice!

Stavros
07-17-2007, 9:43 PM
Gay.... $300 for a stock that fits a $200 gun.

Comeon guys.... buy another gun instead! :)

Actually it's a $190 stock for a $200 gun that gives it the ergonomics and shape of a world reknown SMG. The biggest benefit I see to the unconventional setup is that you have the OAL of the rifle ,with a legal length barrel, to be the same as an SBR. The mags sticking out on the other .22 rifle models does look a little wierd, but for the 10/22 they fit flush in the stock.

Any other .22 MP5 clone would force you to have a ridiculously long pencil barrel, or have it hidden under a fake silencer shroud. I'd say +1 on ingenuity. Of course I haven't handled it to know what the build quality is, or how accessible the action is in order to clear malfunctions, but it looks like it would be similar to any other 10/22. Only thing to get used to would be the mag changes. Sure its poser, but then again how often do people buy things primarily because they look cool.

Tell you what, I'll guinea pig it and let you know what my findings are.

Most individuals will easily spend over $190 upgrading their 10/22 whether it be tacticool or benchrest, whatever. There is no other .22 MP5 clone option at the moment, so the buy another gun comment is irrelevant

aplinker
07-17-2007, 9:57 PM
Actually it's a $190 stock for a $200 gun that gives it the ergonomics and shape of a world reknown SMG. The biggest benefit I see to the unconventional setup is that you have the OAL of the rifle ,with a legal length barrel, to be the same as an SBR. The mags sticking out on the other .22 rifle models does look a little wierd, but for the 10/22 they fit flush in the stock.

Any other .22 MP5 clone would force you to have a ridiculously long pencil barrel, or have it hidden under a fake silencer shroud. I'd say +1 on ingenuity. Of course I haven't handled it to know what the build quality is, or how accessible the action is in order to clear malfunctions, but it looks like it would be similar to any other 10/22. Only thing to get used to would be the mag changes. Sure its poser, but then again how often do people buy things primarily because they look cool.

Tell you what, I'll guinea pig it and let you know what my findings are.

Most individuals will easily spend over $190 upgrading their 10/22 whether it be tacticool or benchrest, whatever. There is no other .22 MP5 clone option at the moment, so the buy another gun comment is irrelevant

I was thinking the same thing. $200 is pitlins. On an AR an upgraded pistol grip and a collapsible stock costs $200-300. I hardly see this as expensive. If the trigger pull is clean and the gun functions reliably, seems like a fun way to trick out a 10/22. Come to think of it, that's the price of the Walther G22.

wilit
07-17-2007, 10:03 PM
The two Steyr AUG's I bought on ebay for $50 (that's $25 each!) finally came today. Now I've got to find a Savage 64 to complete my plan! Muwhahahaha.

Spiggy
07-17-2007, 10:41 PM
Gay.... $300 for a stock that fits a $200 gun.

Comeon guys.... buy another gun instead! :)
DID SOMEBODY SAY "KRINKER PLINKER!?" YAAAAY!


:p sorry couldnt resist

69Mach1
07-19-2007, 10:44 AM
Well I took the "plunge" too. I'll review it with lots of photos when I get it in next week. An excuse to take out my 10/22 again, it was just gathering dust.
http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/076376000/76376504/pix3074190937.jpg

apbrian112
07-24-2007, 5:08 PM
anybody get one of these yet? dying to hear a review before i pick one up myself. i pick my 10/22 from turners on the 30th and want one of these barring a horrible review.

Josh3239
07-24-2007, 5:15 PM
I have been thinking of buying one for a few days. I bought a MG42 kit and a 10/22 and I've used neither.

For those if you interested in the 10/22 G36, here ya go: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=76438122

They're is also a P90: http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=76599697

I have seen a AUG and a SL8 so keep watching.

tonb
07-24-2007, 5:29 PM
How is it legal?

Detachable magazine + pistol grip = bad CA juju

Hanniballs
07-24-2007, 6:10 PM
How is it legal?

Detachable magazine + pistol grip = bad CA juju


rimfire

69Mach1
07-25-2007, 9:06 PM
anybody get one of these yet? dying to hear a review before i pick one up myself. i pick my 10/22 from turners on the 30th and want one of these barring a horrible review.

Soon, very soon. My kit ships out this week. It should have went out at the end of last week but there was a mix up in the kit I bought, and it wasn't cleared up until this last Monday. I also got a replacement Ruger 10/22 factory 18" barrel off of ebay for $22 shipped (original one traded long ago), and it was shipped out yesterday and should arrive by Sat. Don't worry, I'll have plenty of photos to share.
--Mach

lawnrevenge
07-25-2007, 9:17 PM
I'm left handed-so this thing sucks. I hope all you wierdo right handed freaks enjoy your cool mp-5 look alike 10/22 guns.:p

1919_4_ME
07-25-2007, 9:28 PM
Having that at the range is definitley going to give you unwanted attention (Looks SBR).Dont be mad when your driving down the road after leaving the range and the cops pull you over to check it out.There going to go through all your stuff so just be prepared....;)

apbrian112
07-26-2007, 9:45 AM
Soon, very soon. My kit ships out this week. It should have went out at the end of last week but there was a mix up in the kit I bought, and it wasn't cleared up until this last Monday. I also got a replacement Ruger 10/22 factory 18" barrel off of ebay for $22 shipped (original one traded long ago), and it was shipped out yesterday and should arrive by Sat. Don't worry, I'll have plenty of photos to share.
--Mach

cool, can't wait!

BaronW
07-26-2007, 9:55 AM
I actually have a broken Steyr AUG airsoft gun, how hard would it be to drop in a 10/22? I also have a spring G36C, but I kinda like that one as a working airsoft gun. I look forward to finding out if it's worth $200 for the stock or if I should just start dremel-ing my own into existence.

PIRATE14
07-26-2007, 10:00 AM
My kids would get a kick out of one......if it works.....:chris:

Jack_Bauer
07-26-2007, 11:03 AM
So... tempted.... but I just bought 2500 rounds of LC 30-06 from CMP :(

Josh3239
07-26-2007, 11:17 AM
http://customrifles.info/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1181794381

It looks like they hollowed out the rifle. Fit the 10/22 in the butt of the replica and used screws and a filling solution to hold it in place.

I actually have a broken Steyr AUG airsoft gun, how hard would it be to drop in a 10/22? I also have a spring G36C, but I kinda like that one as a working airsoft gun. I look forward to finding out if it's worth $200 for the stock or if I should just start dremel-ing my own into existence.

Bladewurk
08-06-2007, 9:38 PM
Anybody get their Kestrel Kit yet? :confused:

69Mach1
08-06-2007, 10:23 PM
Sorry, mine is not due to arrive until Monday the 13th. By the way, they charge $27 for shipping and use UPS ground.

apbrian112
08-07-2007, 2:16 AM
yeah, i'm waiting for a favorable review before i purchase mine.

wilit
08-09-2007, 6:22 PM
Read the Kestrelfire review..... Total POS.

http://customrifles.info/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1186704513

iridesportbikes
08-09-2007, 7:34 PM
Read the Kestrelfire review..... Total POS.

http://customrifles.info/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1186704513


Wow. After seeing pics and reading the review, a big +1 for POS!!!

aplinker
08-09-2007, 8:16 PM
What a shame. Was a cool idea. Maybe someone will find a way to improve it.

Bladewurk
08-09-2007, 9:45 PM
Savage version looks crappy:(,anybody order the 10/22 Version?

apbrian112
08-09-2007, 10:46 PM
i believe there were a couple of guys who ordered it but haven't received them yet... now time to hear a review on the 10/22 kit... it's probably the same.

Jack_Bauer
08-10-2007, 3:58 PM
i believe there were a couple of guys who ordered it but haven't received them yet... now time to hear a review on the 10/22 kit... it's probably the same.

I have one on order and I'll let you know with plenty of pics and a range report. I picked up (started the dros on) a stainless 10/22 at big 5 this week. If it doesn't work out I'll just use the 10/22 as a varmint rig

OldWestGambler
08-10-2007, 5:46 PM
This topic has been discussed, however since now they have a website and name associated with it.

Also, they have it for the Ruger 10/22.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/SellerAuctions.asp?User=718067
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZvioletmnm1982QQhtZ-1

http://san1.atlanta.gbhinc.com/GB/076220000/76220323/pix2890773859.jpg

Check out the video:
http://kestrelfire.com/videos.html

what a trippy look'in pic. wow

69Mach1
08-13-2007, 8:19 PM
Well it's here and it's just as big of a dissappointment as I expected. Definately not worth the $200+. First off, they charged me $27 for shipping and handling, and shipped it by UPS ground.

Here's what it looks like assembled, however I can't get it to work because the "trigger bar" does not engage the Ruger trigger properly. It is exactly 26.5 inches.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1154.jpg
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1149.jpg

The buttstock is unusual because they split it in half and then attached a metal "filler" about a half inch thick to widen the stock to fit the Ruger receiver.
Here's the top. That hole is where you attach a screw that comes with the kit into the Ruger receiver.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1142.jpg
Here's the bottom. Notice the metal filler running down the middle of the stock.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1144.jpg
It's very "flimsy". It broke off by me just touching it.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1151.jpg

69Mach1
08-13-2007, 8:29 PM
The rifle itself is made in China and is of very cheap quality. The rear sight is adjustible left and right, and you can choose between different diopter diameters. Because the butt stock width was increased to fit the Ruger, it does not fit properly on the receiver. It has a gap on both sides.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1152.jpg
Here's a pic of the barrel inside of the receiver.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1148.jpg
And finally, the only thing holding it all together is one bolt, so the receiver tends to move in place. I lost out on the shipping costs on this one. The other members who also ordered one, refuse the shipment without opening it, but first email the company letting them know what you're doing.
http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j258/FIVESIXTN/hkSONY1147.jpg

aplinker
08-13-2007, 9:11 PM
What a bummer... It looked like it would be a fun toy. Thanks for the really thorough posting. Sorry it ended up this way.

Q
08-13-2007, 10:55 PM
good review and pics mach!
It's officially a POS. :D
It does look cool in their video on the website.
The rear stock gaps on each side look horrible.

Smokin
08-13-2007, 11:01 PM
Wow. All this work to make a perfectly good gun fit inside a toy so it can look cool from far but be far from cool. You you want the "look" that badly, just move to another state. Pretty much every other state has better laws than this one.

aplinker
08-13-2007, 11:03 PM
Wow. All this work to make a perfectly good gun fit inside a toy so it can look cool from far but be far from cool. You you want the "look" that badly, just move to another state. Pretty much every other state has better laws than this one.

Just visiting from barfcom, I take it? :rolleyes:

I suppose you'd suggest the best way to fix a bad haircut is decapitation. Which might explain your post after your recent visit to supercuts...

Stavros
08-13-2007, 11:06 PM
There truly was potential for this idea, its too bad theses guys took a complete half-*****ed approach to putting out product. The funny thing is they say money back guarantee. I mean what are they expecting from customers? Are they planning on making money off shipping, and then stockpiling returned goods?

If they used a good body like a Tokyo Marui HG or a Classic Army, and they actually tested every kit they built, and filled all gaps, then they could have had a decent product.

Well I'll eat crow, this thing is definitely junk. Not worth the plastic it's molded in.

69Mach1
08-14-2007, 7:26 AM
Wow. To "cut and run" from Cali, or to stay and be apart of a revolution to restore our rights. Easy choice.:gunsmilie:

The premise for the stock is a great one, but their execution was poor at best. I just hope they don't find this thread online before I get my money back.:D

wilit
08-14-2007, 7:32 AM
Wow. All this work to make a perfectly good gun fit inside a toy so it can look cool from far but be far from cool. You you want the "look" that badly, just move to another state. Pretty much every other state has better laws than this one.

You know, I'm really getting tired of people saying this. Do you suggest the same thing to those with the same types of laws in NY, MD, MA, HI, or DC? Do you think the best way to fight these laws is to run and hide? Do you not think these types of legislation will spread like cancer as more anti-gun minded people "cut and run" to other states because of the high home prices?

Full Clip
09-12-2007, 6:51 AM
Reminds me of this:
http://images.thesamba.com/vw/gallery/pix/160744.jpg

Jack_Bauer
09-12-2007, 8:52 AM
I'll chime in with my .02

I ordered the 10/22 kit in early August and it took a few weeks of back and forth e-mails and me pretty much telling him you can't sell something on ebay you don't have in your possession yet unless you state in the auction that it's a pre-order. He sent me his "personal" one in one of those cases and I was supposed to get every forearm option with it since I had been waiting so long and I kept complaining.

A week later I took it out of the box and like the above poster, I was very disappointed. The stock was too narrow to fit a 10/22 so they added about a half inch but cutting the stock in half, adding a half inch metal strip then welding it back together. The body is Chinese plastic crap and feels like it will fall apart in my hand. The fake can on the SD fore end was crooked and canted both left and up so I won't shoot it until he sends me a few SD front end. He told me all the other front ends are on back order and that was about 2 weeks ago. I haven't even gotten to test it because I don't want my rounds hitting the off-centered can.

The trigger transfer bar also only works about 40% of the time and often does not reset by itself. I could probably extend it some how but I would expect that no work needs to be done on a $200 stock. Sights are fixed and feel flimsy, I haven't tried my HK airsoft claw mount on it yet.

I think that's about it, I can post pics if you guys want but the ones alredy posted do it justice on the poor quality.

ETA I just remembered, when taking off one of the nuts to put the 10/22 in, the black paint immediately came off the nut.

vf111
09-12-2007, 9:51 AM
I have one for the Savage I picked up the stock on Gunbroker.com. It is indeed a cheapie - definitely not a TM or CA. I had to modify the stock to fit and the trigger transfer bar wouldn't work the Savage's trigger. I taped the two together (yeah, pretty ghetto) and it seems to work for now. The hole for the Savage's safety isn't back far enough for it to be used so I had to modify that too. The stock pieces won't close around the Savage's receiver so there's an ugly 1/16" gap. Haven't shot it yet but it'll probably be OK as a camping plinker assuming it doesn't fall apart before then. Luckily, I bought their stripped down model (no case & no extra forends) so I'm only out $200 - I'll probably eventually put the Savage back in it's original stock and throw this thing away. As they say, caveat emptor....

DedEye
09-13-2007, 11:44 AM
Man that's too bad, I just found this thread and got very excited reading through it :(. At least I didn't buy one to find out how bad it is.