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Catalyst81
10-12-2012, 11:58 PM
Alright, so I've done a ton of reading including helpful links on calguns and I feel like my head is spinning in circles now. I could use some recommendations for a small handgun safe. Budget is under $200. I'm looking for a 1 gun safe that will hold an extra magazine or two to keep near the night stand bolted down. I don't have a preference between electronic or mechanical. I've read a lot of reviews and it seems that a lot of the cheaper safes are very easy to break into. Primary goal is to keep the kids out, but I don't want to buy something that can get broken into in 2 minutes with a screwdriver or paperclip.

For mechanical it seems like Vline and Fort Knox have decent offerings. Are there any electronic (not biometric) safes worth looking into? Gunvault has a few options but it seems like there are lots of bad reviews regarding battery drain and poor customer service and at least one of there models isn't very secure (from a video I watched).

Any help is appreciated.

bsg
10-13-2012, 8:26 AM
i'd be interested to know about the Fort Knox safe. i've done no research on the matter, so can't say yea or nay.

razr
10-13-2012, 9:24 AM
Homeland security. They can make one to your specs and deliver it to your door.

canative
10-13-2012, 2:06 PM
I have a single gun Gunvault that has the electronic finger press buttons, with a backup key in case the batteries fail. Have had it for a couple years now and haven't had to replace the batteries yet. I have it bolted it down in my dresser next to my bed. It holds my G22 with four mags in it. It's pretty secure in there. I would recommend one.

Catalyst81
10-14-2012, 3:01 PM
I have a single gun Gunvault that has the electronic finger press buttons, with a backup key in case the batteries fail. Have had it for a couple years now and haven't had to replace the batteries yet. I have it bolted it down in my dresser next to my bed. It holds my G22 with four mags in it. It's pretty secure in there. I would recommend one.

The video here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovjvy0FTxBY) shows what concerns me about the smaller gunvault safes. I don't know if yours is a similar model.

i'd be interested to know about the Fort Knox safe. i've done no research on the matter, so can't say yea or nay.

You can see the Fort Knox safe I'm considering here (http://www.ftknox.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=54) with a video showing it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQZRltqVn8).

I was hoping to spend a little less on a safe, but I think this might be it for me. I'd like the safe to keep the kids out as they get older and to stop a thief that can't carry it off. All the other cheaper safes seem way too easy to break into.

Old4eyes
10-17-2012, 8:32 PM
I went with the DAC sport safe. It was about $30 cheaper than the Gunvault, but there are some things to note.

It doesn't come with an external power supply, something that I feel is absolutely necessary. Use the batteries to keep the settings when the AC has failed. Ebay fixes that easily, but it is something to note.

The battery container is flimsy. If you are willing to beef it up some, it works ok.

The plastic shelf got in the way. I cut it down, store magazines on it. If the shelf was left intact, it hampered access to the gun on the bottom shelf. They claim it can hold two guns, don't believe it.

Now having given the bad news, let's talk about the good. Has opened every time I've accessed it. Does not appear to have the weaker mechanical linkage that some people have discussed about the Gunvault. It is cheaper (even when buying power suppply) than the gunvault. I liked the mounting plate setup. I built substantial shelves and mounted the plate to the shelf. I don't move them around. You can ascertain from the text I have plural, two of them, his and hers at the bedside.

Whatever you get, make sure if you get an electronic box it has a mechanical key override. I keep the key in a hidden area slightly away from the box, but close enough that if I keep screwing up the combo (and lock myself out) that the mechanical override can be brought into play quickly.

If you are trying to combine protection of mechanical attacks and fast access, I think the holy grail should be on the shopping list as well. A fast access box keeps out the casual kid. But if you've got a determined teenager who is willing to trash the box in the same manner as the house burglar, then a fast access box will be toast.

I've got a separate gun safe - and if you are technical, even at 1300 lbs it's a residential security container, not a safe. Two handguns are in the fast access gun "safes". If I am going to be out of town for any length of time, the pistols get pulled out of the DAC boxes and are put into the big box. As my father stated so many years ago - Locks are there to keep honest people honest.

bsg
10-17-2012, 10:40 PM
You can see the Fort Knox safe I'm considering here (http://www.ftknox.com/store/index.php?route=product/product&path=59&product_id=54) with a video showing it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkQZRltqVn8).

I was hoping to spend a little less on a safe, but I think this might be it for me. I'd like the safe to keep the kids out as they get older and to stop a thief that can't carry it off. All the other cheaper safes seem way too easy to break into.


thanks, and i watched the video. i like that it has a mechanical lock; no batteries or electronics. i also like that it's manufacture wasn't contracted out overseas; made in USA. i did a little searching on my own, and couldn't find any negative reviews on the Fort Knox. in my mind's eye the Fort Knox name represents quality, and with it's lifetime warranty... this is a product i would put high up on my 'candidates for purchase' list.

bsg
10-20-2012, 12:22 PM
too soon for update?

SA227driver
10-20-2012, 5:34 PM
Honestly, this is what I use for multiple guns. It's portable and I can stash it anywhere. Will fit up to full size 1911s with room for a spare mag.

http://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/safe-p-778.html