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theguy
10-12-2012, 8:35 AM
Turners has it for 800
What are your thoughts on this gun for this price.

Speedpower
10-12-2012, 8:39 AM
Hurry up and Jump on it! That,s a good deal!

I500X
10-12-2012, 9:02 AM
Is the M400 Mil-spec?

theguy
10-12-2012, 11:11 AM
It doesn't say mil spec in the ad. What's the diff? Still a good buy?

Speedpower
10-12-2012, 11:18 AM
SIG M400 is a MIL-SPEC.

Plisk
10-12-2012, 12:11 PM
Trust us. DO IT.

I wish my truck didn't need my financial attention right now, otherwise I'd go snag one myself.

myk
10-12-2012, 12:41 PM
That caught my eye too. Would you guys recommend this weapon if you already have a similar AR from Colt, LMT, etc?

bighead
10-12-2012, 1:35 PM
Holy cow that's cheap.

Ken Woodford
10-12-2012, 2:08 PM
I have one. Bought it at Turners in June paid 200 more than that ad price.

Yes I do love it.

trapshot68
10-12-2012, 2:57 PM
Seeing it in 10 days. :D

ruddogg
10-12-2012, 3:24 PM
I've been eyeing the Daniel Defense M4 as my first AR, should I jump on this deal? Or hold out for the DDM4?

theguy
10-12-2012, 4:20 PM
Well I had it in my hand but couldnt buy it. The lower had the standard matte finish and the upper had a much glossier finish. At first I thought it was oil from the factory but I am sure it was not. I guess I'm OCD but I didn't like it.

myk
10-12-2012, 6:11 PM
I've been eyeing the Daniel Defense M4 as my first AR, should I jump on this deal? Or hold out for the DDM4?

What's the price difference? Also isn't the DD M4 a piston based gun?

Plisk
10-12-2012, 6:21 PM
What's the price difference? Also isn't the DD M4 a piston based gun?

Daniel Defense are DI rifles.

myk
10-13-2012, 12:41 AM
Daniel Defense are DI rifles.

Question: Why haven't big companies like DD and Colt made any piston based M4's?

Merc1138
10-13-2012, 1:32 AM
Question: Why haven't big companies like DD and Colt made any piston based M4's?

Colt P0923, LE6940P, probably a couple others as well.

myk
10-13-2012, 7:10 AM
Gonna have to look those up for sure...

TZL
10-13-2012, 9:07 AM
Technically no AR15 is "mil spec"....they don't run semi auto ar15s in the us military

Plus there are plenty if ar15s that are higher quality than our military m4/m16s....



Is the M400 Mil-spec?

TZL
10-13-2012, 9:10 AM
They have, there is a colt piston ar...plus LMT isn't exactly a "little company", provides guns to special forces and other operators


Question: Why haven't big companies like DD and Colt made any piston based M4's?

Plisk
10-13-2012, 10:30 AM
Question: Why haven't big companies like DD and Colt made any piston based M4's?

Colt has. Companies like Daniel Defense, Bravo Company, and Armalite haven't made them because they don't see a need for it. Either from a marketing point of view, or from the philosophy/engineering point of view. The piston design does give us advantages, but so does DI. People are going to choose sides essentially.

myk
10-13-2012, 10:56 AM
Technically no AR15 is "mil spec"....they don't run semi auto ar15s in the us military

Plus there are plenty if ar15s that are higher quality than our military m4/m16s....

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the only difference between so-called mil spec civilian rifles and DOD issued weapons are the burst and FA abilities, right?

Also, sorry to bring up a sore subject but what are the advantages of DI guns? I tried looking up the 6940P, Colt's piston M4 but that sucker's hard to find. Personally, I see no need to go beyond this Sig M400 or my Colt M4 6920...

m03
10-13-2012, 11:39 AM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the only difference between so-called mil spec civilian rifles and DOD issued weapons are the burst and FA abilities, right?

I believe "Mil-spec" also refers to manufacturing quality standards as defined in the Technical Data Package.

Plisk
10-13-2012, 12:57 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but the only difference between so-called mil spec civilian rifles and DOD issued weapons are the burst and FA abilities, right?

Also, sorry to bring up a sore subject but what are the advantages of DI guns? I tried looking up the 6940P, Colt's piston M4 but that sucker's hard to find. Personally, I see no need to go beyond this Sig M400 or my Colt M4 6920...

If you do your reading on the many threads that have gone on about DI vs. Piston, you can get a good feel for the advantages. One basic advantage is less parts and motions involved in the weapons firing operation.

I believe "Mil-spec" also refers to manufacturing quality standards as defined in the Technical Data Package.

You are correct.

myk
10-13-2012, 1:53 PM
If you do your reading on the many threads that have gone on about DI vs. Piston, you can get a good feel for the advantages. One basic advantage is less parts and motions involved in the weapons firing operation.


I've read about the subject here and on AR15.com, M4(something).com, and some other sites. All I can ever manage to retrieve out of those DI vs GP pissing matches is that GP runs cleaner. There might be more 'info but it takes a lot of aspirin to read through it...

Merc1138
10-13-2012, 1:57 PM
I've read about the subject here and on AR15.com, M4(something).com, and some other sites. All I can ever manage to retrieve out of those DI vs GP pissing matches is that GP runs cleaner. There might be more 'info but it takes a lot of aspirin to read through it...

GP systems are proprietary. If you only use it for the occasional trip to the range, probably not an issue. If you have to order a bunch of new rifles for a department and a bunch of new spare parts to go with them, and can't interchange parts between rifles, it could be a problem.

Also, there's a matter of where the dirt ends up. Piston guns really aren't any cleaner, the deposits just end up elsewhere. In some piston systems it's likely that the crap ending up in the piston isn't as critical as being blown back into the receiver, but it's still there. Also, since not all piston systems are the same you can't paint them all with a broad brush and claim that you can go longer without cleaning them. Also, because piston systems are proprietary, something like disassembly may not even be the same from one manufacturer to another.

gun toting monkeyboy
10-13-2012, 2:23 PM
For that price, it is a great deal. it is only about $100 more than the S&W entry-level guns. If I needed another AR, I would jump on it.

-Mb