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radd
07-11-2007, 12:37 AM
As the title suggested.......

The Lever Release must be disabled by replacing it with standard Spring Bushing.
http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/spring_bushings2.jpg

A bit more tweaking is require to make it fit perfect.
But here are some photos:

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/mp5_prototype1.jpg

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/mp5_prototype2.jpg

http://www.truckparts411.com/_private/sendable/mp5_prototype3.jpg

The final finish will have a closer to original button look.

gn3hz3ku1*
07-11-2007, 6:09 AM
omg...

savageevo
07-11-2007, 6:42 AM
thats awesome great work radd.

t001
07-11-2007, 6:44 AM
Oh, the possiblities!!! Please keep us updated on the progress. Thanks.

1064chubbs
07-11-2007, 8:30 AM
Please Keep Us Updated!

mdhpper
07-11-2007, 10:32 AM
THANK YOU!!!!!!!! I thought I would never find a decent MP5 clone solution. Hopefully soon someone will start producing some 10/30 mags.

radd
07-11-2007, 12:20 PM
One Quick Note:

This Mag-Lock was tested on the Bobcat MP5 Clone. The Vector model in theory can use the regular Mag-Lock we have for the PTR-91 because they use the Polymer Navy Grip.

However upon closer examination of Vector Model, their MP5 clone does not use button as mag release, they only use the lever release. I guess that saved them some money on component and machining.

Also, made a call to Vector Arms, talked to someone at tech support named Chuck. Looks like none of the Vector Arms MP5 Clone will have a button at at all. They will only use the paddle release.

So, Vector for now may not be a good candidate for this BB. Unless you are into cutting and drilling your receiver.:(

radd

marxdspot
07-11-2007, 2:56 PM
Will this work with Coharie Arms CA94 MP5 clones?

dotchoy
07-11-2007, 4:22 PM
Once you get the bullet button all figured out lets get a group buy together on some Vector clones.:D

ldivinag
07-11-2007, 5:23 PM
Once you get the bullet button all figured out lets get a group buy together on some Vector clones.:D


+2... for me... ;)

GI_JOE
07-11-2007, 5:32 PM
radd,

When will you be offering these up for purchase? I'd like one please. :D

Once you get the bullet button all figured out lets get a group buy together on some Vector clones.:D

radd stated "So, Vector for now may not be a good candidate for this BB. Unless you are into cutting and drilling your receiver.:("

wilit
07-11-2007, 5:32 PM
OMG, I think I need to go change my underwear. I have ALWAYS wanted an MP5. <drool>

mdhpper
07-11-2007, 6:31 PM
I'm glad I bought a Bobcat! When will they be ready?

One Quick Note:

This Mag-Lock was tested on the Bobcat MP5 Clone. The Vector model in theory can use the regular Mag-Lock we have for the PTR-91 because they use the Polymer Navy Grip.

However upon closer examination of Vector Model, their MP5 clone does not use button as mag release, they only use the lever release. I guess that saved them some money on component and machining.

Also, made a call to Vector Arms, talked to someone at tech support named Chuck. Looks like none of the Vector Arms MP5 Clone will have a button at at all. They will only use the paddle release.

So, Vector for now may not be a good candidate for this BB. Unless you are into cutting and drilling your receiver.:(

radd

t001
07-11-2007, 6:32 PM
Hi radd,

Can't you fab a small cage to enclose the paddle release, with a small cut-out on the side to allow the insertion of a bullet or tool or your choice to operate the paddle? The cage can be attached to the lower via the screw hole for the paddle release itself somehow? Just a thought, don't have a MP5/HK94 w/ a paddle release to verify whether this is possible at all or not.

One Quick Note:

This Mag-Lock was tested on the Bobcat MP5 Clone. The Vector model in theory can use the regular Mag-Lock we have for the PTR-91 because they use the Polymer Navy Grip.

However upon closer examination of Vector Model, their MP5 clone does not use button as mag release, they only use the lever release. I guess that saved them some money on component and machining.

Also, made a call to Vector Arms, talked to someone at tech support named Chuck. Looks like none of the Vector Arms MP5 Clone will have a button at at all. They will only use the paddle release.

So, Vector for now may not be a good candidate for this BB. Unless you are into cutting and drilling your receiver.:(

radd

Sig357
07-11-2007, 6:45 PM
Where can I buy a Bobcat?

aplinker
07-12-2007, 2:15 AM
Where can I buy a Bobcat?

Don't know about Cali-legal... but

http://www.redrockarms.com/bw5rifle.html

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/programming/listview.asp?CatId=4

radd
07-12-2007, 3:57 PM
The whole reason of designing this Mag-Lock is to preserve the original look and function of the firearm without frankenizing it.

With that said... Yes, you certainly can install some type of cage and retain the use of the paddle release. But, there are only so much space available on the MP5 to preserve the style.

BTW: if you ever get a hold of Bobcat MP5, then tell me if your paddle release is welded shut like mine. I don't see anyway of removing it, without some cutting. So I went the second route, disabling it by replacing the Spring Bushing.:D

Hi radd,

Can't you fab a small cage to enclose the paddle release, with a small cut-out on the side to allow the insertion of a bullet or tool or your choice to operate the paddle? The cage can be attached to the lower via the screw hole for the paddle release itself somehow? Just a thought, don't have a MP5/HK94 w/ a paddle release to verify whether this is possible at all or not.

t001
07-12-2007, 4:11 PM
I certainly agree with your thinking, radd. I just thought that a small cage like I was talking about will still look less intrusive and glaring than some sort of MMG that people have been coming up with. It would probably only stick down 1" or so from the lower and be the width that allows the paddle release to be operated plus some.

Anyways, just a suggestion. It would be nice to have some sort of BB configuration on a Vector as I've heard their quality is excellent. I have heard Bobcats do run well given judicious parts replacement and some tuning. Thanks for the effort!

The whole reason of designing this Mag-Lock is to preserve the original look and function of the firearm without frankenizing it.

With that said... Yes, you certainly can install some type of cage and retain the use of the paddle release. But, there are only so much space available on the MP5 to preserve the style.

BTW: if you ever get a hold of Bobcat MP5, then tell me if your paddle release is welded shut like mine. I don't see anyway of removing it, without some cutting. So I went the second route, disabling it by replacing the Spring Bushing.:D

radd
07-12-2007, 4:15 PM
Well, if I can get my hands on a vector MP5, then I will certainly tackle this issue.

BTW: Vulcan MP5 Clone seem to have the button release just like the Bobcat. That will be another option for this currently Mag-Lock.

I am shooting for next week to complete the button for the MP5 Model.

:)

Josh3239
07-12-2007, 4:44 PM
Where can I buy a Bobcat?

http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/admin/images/content/bw5fsa.jpg

radd
07-13-2007, 1:39 PM
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/admin/images/content/bw5fsa.jpg

If you have the Above Style Navy Plastic Grip, then the current BB Mag-lock for HK91/PTR-91 will fit also. The only thing you will need to change out is the Spring Bushing. Which I got some from PTR-91 directly. They are 4.00 each. You can also get it directly from them.:)

radd
07-13-2007, 5:39 PM
Will this work with Coharie Arms CA94 MP5 clones?

I have not seen a Coharie MP5 Clone in person before. If you have the Button Release, with magazine Catch on the side, then this Mag-Lock should work on your rifle.

The key is having the Button Release. The Paddle Release will need to be disabled.

radd

marxdspot
07-14-2007, 8:58 PM
I have not seen a Coharie MP5 Clone in person before. If you have the Button Release, with magazine Catch on the side, then this Mag-Lock should work on your rifle.

The key is having the Button Release. The Paddle Release will need to be disabled.

radd

YES! GREAT! PM sent. Thanks Radd!

Wolfpack331
07-15-2007, 8:15 AM
I want one for my bobcat.
how much and how soon?

marxdspot
07-15-2007, 2:41 PM
For those who wanted to get a clone MP5, check out this auction on gunbroker for one with both a side button and paddle release:D.

http://gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.asp?Item=76026615