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currahee
07-08-2007, 10:47 AM
Hi,
I mean 1 moa. Is there such a thing?
Thanks,
-C.

mblat
07-08-2007, 11:07 AM
cz 527? But unless you reload yourself, where in a world you are going to find 7.62x39 capable of 1 moa?

Army GI
07-08-2007, 11:58 AM
My AR is highly accurate in 7.62 Soviet. Caliber plays little importance on the accuracy of the rifle:

http://model1sales.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=KSE207&storeid=1&image=s207prek.gif

Though I admit I use handloaded ammunition. ARs don't work exactly as well with surplus stuff. The extra kick you get is reassuring :)

bwiese
07-08-2007, 12:04 PM
Unless you're handloading or purchasing "yellow box" US-mfgd UMC 7.62x39, most imported 7.62x39 is mass produced and is of lower quality - accuracy-wise - than typical US-mfgd ammo, even bulk 55gr Winchester White Box, UMC, American Eagle, etc.

shinigami
07-08-2007, 7:46 PM
My AR is highly accurate in 7.62 Soviet. Caliber plays little importance on the accuracy of the rifle:

http://model1sales.com/item-detail.cfm?ID=KSE207&storeid=1&image=s207prek.gif

Though I admit I use handloaded ammunition. ARs don't work exactly as well with surplus stuff. The extra kick you get is reassuring :)

What mags do you use?

Army GI
07-09-2007, 8:45 AM
What mags do you use?

http://ammoclip.com/A/ar15_7_62x39.htm

They work 100% for me.

I like them because they are metal and feel more "real". That's just me:)

If you prefer brownells, they also have reliable plastic mags:

http://www.brownells.com/aspx/NS/store/productdetail.aspx?p=8738&s=21167

EdinKali
07-09-2007, 9:55 AM
With handloads and some tweaks my mini-30 can get close to 1 MOA (1.1" CTC). Steel pigs out at 300yds are no problem. With surplus 7.62 x 39 forget it.

jumbopanda
07-09-2007, 11:33 AM
I heard one guy say that after installing a high quality barrel in his AK, it was capable of around 1MOA, but I haven't seen the groups.

Army GI
07-09-2007, 1:14 PM
The only thing is that even though the 10rd mags work perfectly in my AR, the design in general just wasn't meant to use those heavily tapered cartridges. The mag well is just too straight. That's why the 6.8 is such a big deal (at least on ARFCOM). Its pretty much a ballistically superior 7.62x39 with a straight enough taper to fit perfectly in the M16.

Morales
07-09-2007, 1:54 PM
My SKS hits steel animals at 300 yards no problem. I know you are looking for 1 MOA type stuff, but that all depends on the rifle, and if you're shooting military rifles, you won't see too much of that. The Iraquis have a dedicated marksmans rifle that its an AK tuned to much tighter tolerances. I forget the name of it, but it fires 7.62x39, and is suposed to be a sniping rifle for medium range (300-400 meters). I think its the Tabuk. I'm not sure. Trying to get an AK to be a MOA gun is really trying to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Military rifles were designed to be Minute of Human at 300-500 meters, the designers did not imagine that 40 or 50 years after they went out of service the rifles would be used by guys in states with absurd laws to shoot tiny groups at paper bullseyes. If you want a race car buy '71 Fastback Mustang, don't buy a Honda Civic and try to turn it into race car, although, I guess, some people do try.

Army GI
07-09-2007, 2:00 PM
My SKS hits steel animals at 300 yards no problem. I know you are looking for 1 MOA type stuff, but that all depends on the rifle, and if you're shooting military rifles, you won't see too much of that. The Iraquis have a dedicated marksmans rifle that its an AK tuned to much tighter tolerances. I forget the name of it, but it fires 7.62x39, and is suposed to be a sniping rifle for medium range (300-400 meters). I think its the Tabuk. I'm not sure. Trying to get an AK to be a MOA gun is really trying to make a silk purse from a sow's ear. Military rifles were designed to be Minute of Human at 300-500 meters, the designers did not imagine that 40 or 50 years after they went out of service the rifles would be used by guys in states with absurd laws to shoot tiny groups at paper bullseyes. If you want a race car buy '71 Fastback Mustang, don't buy a Honda Civic and try to turn it into race car, although, I guess, some people do try.

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