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Yute
07-07-2007, 2:58 AM
Ok, I have a confession to make. I'm a bit of a m-14 geek and have been eyeing the Troy MCS for a while. Well I ordered one through LAW483 aka Tony Lawrance (great guy by the way) and am very happy with it!

When I first took the stock out of the box, I was immediately surprised on how light and well balanced it was. The MMgrip was actually much more easy to use than I expected - it is comfortable to hold and provides a secure purchase the stock - I have no hesitiation in my mind that the rifle will be easy to shoot! Installation onto my springfield armory m1a was a cinch, probably took 20 mins with minimal effort. Yes it will be heavier than a rifle with a fiberglass stock, but not by much espcially if you consider the amount of rails that you will have! The stock is as strong as rock and beds the receiver very solidly. I am amazed at the amount of detail that was put into it (eg small screws to allow you to adjust tension exerted on the stock to the trigger housing). Even though I have a full length barrel and a full length buttstock, maneuvering around the house with the stock was surprisingly easy even though I didn't have the mm grip on (more on that later), which I attribute to the excellent balance and ergonomics of the troy stock since it feels like a m16. A m1a with a troy stock with a shorter buttstock (which tony has) and shorter barrel (like a scout or socom) would be a fearsome close quarters rifle indeed!

Disassembly is super easy - all I had to do was loosen a screw or two, then tore it down just by taking the trigger group out and popping the rear stock pin, much like a m16. The Troy stock really brings the m14 to the 21st century!

I am quite excited about this rifle to say the least! Since the grip and backend are m-16 based, you can switch out stocks and grips to your hearts intent, and it is super easy. If you went to a freer state, changing grips would be a cinch. Not to mention the possiblities of putting other CA-legal grips/stocks on the rifle as well!

One note: while I ordered the stock with the MM grip and am happy with it, I took it off before installing the rifle to the stock because there was a slight gap between the stock and the mm grip. The gap is not big enough for most thumbs, but the DOJ probably could find someone with small enough hands to fit into the gap and make your life difficult (at least in my mind, but then again, I am generally overly paranoid). I will fill the gap up with epoxy later this week and take some better pics, so please forgive me for not having the grip attached to the stock on these pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy2.jpg

adamsreeftank
07-07-2007, 4:37 AM
You are going to need a taller front sight.

xenophobe
07-07-2007, 4:48 AM
I ordered the stock with the MM grip and am happy with it, I took it off before installing the rifle to the stock because there was a slight gap between the stock and the mm grip. The gap is not big enough for most thumbs, but the DOJ probably could find someone with small enough hands to fit into the gap and make your life difficult (at least in my mind, but then again, I am generally overly paranoid).

It doesn't matter, even if you could fit your thumb through it, the web of your hand would be above the imaginary line separating the top of the trigger and the bottom of the action. It just wouldn't look too pretty. :p

So you're good to go really. The only reason to fill the gap would be to make it look better.

tiger222
07-07-2007, 6:47 AM
very cool ! sure does give the old girl some new life!

and it looks just a little bit starshiptropper-ish....in a good way...

MonsterMan
07-07-2007, 8:54 AM
I believe that the gap would be no different than the gap on the U-15. As long as it is not a "hole" and you cant hold it with a pistol style grasp where the web is below the top exposed portion of the trigger, I think you are ok.

Although it looks better to have it fit flush with no gap. I personally would fill it.

LAW483
07-07-2007, 3:47 PM
...Although it looks better to have it fit flush with no gap. I personally would fill it.

Maybe we can work that issue out together?

PM Sent

1911_Mitch
07-08-2007, 12:20 PM
Cool stock!

I have several MM grips on my featureless OLLs. Love'em! Detachable mags rock!

I would be interested in this M14 stock for a build I am putting together.

If you too (MonsterMan and Law483) could work out the clearance issues and "close the gap" I would buy one.

(MonsterMan - is it possible to just form a 'blank' so a user could custom modify the MMgrip 'fin' to any shape desired? = problem solved)

LAW483
07-08-2007, 5:59 PM
Cool stock!

I have several MM grips on my featureless OLLs. Love'em! Detachable mags rock!

I would be interested in this M14 stock for a build I am putting together.

If you too (MonsterMan and Law483) could work out the clearance issues and "close the gap" I would buy one.

(MonsterMan - is it possible to just form a 'blank' so a user could custom modify the MMgrip 'fin' to any shape desired? = problem solved)

You can easily fill the gap if you use The Right Stuff (http://www.permatex.com/brand_right_stuff.htm) ...Or use a putty type epoxy.

Applly a mold release (or WD40, etc) to the stock and MCS; it will bond to the MMG and not to the other parts. You can easily fill the gap and have it mate perfectly to the fixed stock of your choice. The Right Stuff is flat black and has been used to make custom grip surfaces.

EricCartmann
07-08-2007, 6:46 PM
not bad.

+1 on you will need a front site :D

Yute
07-10-2007, 4:46 PM
I definately will need a new front sight! :P

Apologies about the comment on the grip, I made it sound like the gap was a big problem; it is not and is mainly a personal thing. Epoxy or the right stuff is probably the easiest route to go for now if you really want to close the gap!

LAW483
07-15-2007, 8:16 PM
I definately will need a new front sight! :P

Apologies about the comment on the grip, I made it sound like the gap was a big problem; it is not and is mainly a personal thing. Epoxy or the right stuff is probably the easiest route to go for now if you really want to close the gap!


We have front sights.

New pics???

Cypriss32
07-15-2007, 8:56 PM
Dunno if i could get used to that. Any of you guys like the JE100 stock?

LAW483
07-21-2007, 7:41 AM
Ok, I have a confession to make. I'm a bit of a m-14 geek and have been eyeing the Troy MCS for a while. Well I ordered one through LAW483 aka Tony Lawrance (great guy by the way) and am very happy with it!

When I first took the stock out of the box, I was immediately surprised on how light and well balanced it was. The MMgrip was actually much more easy to use than I expected - it is comfortable to hold and provides a secure purchase the stock - I have no hesitiation in my mind that the rifle will be easy to shoot! Installation onto my springfield armory m1a was a cinch, probably took 20 mins with minimal effort. Yes it will be heavier than a rifle with a fiberglass stock, but not by much espcially if you consider the amount of rails that you will have! The stock is as strong as rock and beds the receiver very solidly. I am amazed at the amount of detail that was put into it (eg small screws to allow you to adjust tension exerted on the stock to the trigger housing). Even though I have a full length barrel and a full length buttstock, maneuvering around the house with the stock was surprisingly easy even though I didn't have the mm grip on (more on that later), which I attribute to the excellent balance and ergonomics of the troy stock since it feels like a m16. A m1a with a troy stock with a shorter buttstock (which tony has) and shorter barrel (like a scout or socom) would be a fearsome close quarters rifle indeed!

Disassembly is super easy - all I had to do was loosen a screw or two, then tore it down just by taking the trigger group out and popping the rear stock pin, much like a m16. The Troy stock really brings the m14 to the 21st century!

I am quite excited about this rifle to say the least! Since the grip and backend are m-16 based, you can switch out stocks and grips to your hearts intent, and it is super easy. If you went to a freer state, changing grips would be a cinch. Not to mention the possiblities of putting other CA-legal grips/stocks on the rifle as well!

One note: while I ordered the stock with the MM grip and am happy with it, I took it off before installing the rifle to the stock because there was a slight gap between the stock and the mm grip. The gap is not big enough for most thumbs, but the DOJ probably could find someone with small enough hands to fit into the gap and make your life difficult (at least in my mind, but then again, I am generally overly paranoid). I will fill the gap up with epoxy later this week and take some better pics, so please forgive me for not having the grip attached to the stock on these pics:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troy2.jpg

Status?

Yute
07-21-2007, 10:44 PM
been really busy so I just got around to doing it. Epoxy is drying as I type this!

Yute
08-02-2007, 12:16 AM
Sorry for the delay - I was waiting for some glass to come in but it was backordered so all I have is an aimpoint. The epoxy filled the gap up well, but I put some grip tape over it as it was a little slick, hence the slightly off color. I wish I had a m1a scout or sopmod - a shorter barrel on this stock would be rocking for close quarters! (and a pistol grip... but alas so is life...). As it stands it makes a great DMR rifle - time for some trigger time!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troystock2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troystock3.jpg

LAW483
08-15-2007, 4:21 PM
Sorry for the delay - I was waiting for some glass to come in but it was backordered so all I have is an aimpoint. The epoxy filled the gap up well, but I put some grip tape over it as it was a little slick, hence the slightly off color. I wish I had a m1a scout or sopmod - a shorter barrel on this stock would be rocking for close quarters! (and a pistol grip... but alas so is life...). As it stands it makes a great DMR rifle - time for some trigger time!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troystock2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v131/DagaYute/troystock3.jpg


Yute,

Looks great! It's nice to know you can change it out very easily when you travel to a non-AWB state.

dfletcher
08-15-2007, 4:26 PM
I am quite excited about this rifle to say the least! ........
One note: while I ordered the stock with the MM grip and am happy with it, I took it off before installing the rifle to the stock because there was a slight gap between the stock and the mm grip. The gap is not big enough for most thumbs, but the DOJ probably could find someone with small enough hands to fit into the gap and make your life difficult (at least in my mind, but then again, I am generally overly paranoid). I will fill the gap up with epoxy later this week and take some better pics, so please forgive me for not having the grip attached to the stock on these pics:




I am informed by reliable sources that Iggy has small hands. And we all know what that means ......