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Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:13 PM
I need to know. This question is burning a hole through my very soul. There must be a definitive answer.

Ruiner
09-22-2012, 12:15 PM
:popcorn: ......

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:16 PM
:popcorn: ......

My soul is burning.

EvoXRiley
09-22-2012, 12:17 PM
http://http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/1/11/Beating-a-dead-horse.gif

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:18 PM
http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/1/11/Beating-a-dead-horse.gif

was that horse shot with an AR or an AK?

CK_32
09-22-2012, 12:18 PM
There is no one rifle that's "best". They both have their separate roles for different situations.

Both have their strengths and both have their weaknesses.

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:19 PM
There is no one rifle that's "best". They both have their separate roles for different situations.

Both have their strengths and both have their weaknesses.

Yes I agree.



But which one is better?

EvoXRiley
09-22-2012, 12:20 PM
Browning shotgun actually therefore 22 caliber rifles are no match for everything in the world .

I hope I made zero sense to you haha

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:21 PM
Browning shotgun actually therefore 22 caliber rifles are no match for everything in the world .

I hope I made zero sense to you haha

Interesting analysis.

CK_32
09-22-2012, 12:21 PM
Yes I agree.



But which one is better?


Sorry I don't have any more bread to feed the troll.

Scuba Steve33
09-22-2012, 12:22 PM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/AKAR-15-gun.jpg

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:22 PM
Sorry I don't have any more bread to feed the troll.

Is that a type of AR or AK? Bread eating troll version? I'm still learning.

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:23 PM
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/AKAR-15-gun.jpg

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/023/371/Photoshooped.jpg?1255981634

tdyoung1958
09-22-2012, 12:23 PM
My soul is burning.

as well it should be, save yourselve

http://www.nothingnesspictures.com/jesusak.jpg

socalbowhunter
09-22-2012, 12:23 PM
AK-47's like this one.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564790_10151077810207562_165381219_n.jpg

Speedpower
09-22-2012, 12:23 PM
OMG another one! :facepalm:

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:24 PM
as well it should be, save yourselve

http://www.nothingnesspictures.com/jesusak.jpg

Jesus likes AKs? This appeals to me as a Christian.

SuperSet
09-22-2012, 12:27 PM
Jesus likes AKs? This appeals to me as a Christian.

That's not Jesus, it's Che Guevara.

EvoXRiley
09-22-2012, 12:27 PM
But wait I thought Jesus had a raptor

Look at this real picture
http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l370/Littlejib/Jesus_on_raptor.jpg

TF_CAM
09-22-2012, 12:28 PM
I need to know. This question is burning a hole through my very soul. There must be a definitive answer.

did you really have to start this? lol...

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:29 PM
did you really have to start this? lol...

I NEED TO KNOW!!!!

There is no way anyone has ever asked this question before.

SpunkyJivl
09-22-2012, 12:30 PM
For me, the looks of an AK represent fascist militant islam. The AR profile represents freedom and America. Silly maybe, but that' my .02. Plus I love the high velocity 5.56

EvoXRiley
09-22-2012, 12:31 PM
Hitler didn't like guns, he preferred iPhone pictures
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/rps13drifter05/C286DD85-7FB4-49CE-A9A3-1D338551F4E6-3141-000001D0FB031138_zps423c38b1.jpg

fighterpilot562
09-22-2012, 12:33 PM
Ar's of course. AK rounds are wimpy ;)

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:33 PM
Ar's of course. AK rounds are wimpy ;)

What about an AR that shoots AK rounds?

nothing4u
09-22-2012, 12:37 PM
http://http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/1/11/Beating-a-dead-horse.gif

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/1/11/Beating-a-dead-horse.gif

Fixed it for ya!

Arson
09-22-2012, 12:47 PM
Never Bring an AR to a Twinke Fight!

bohoki
09-22-2012, 12:50 PM
the ar-15 is more builder/modifier friendly you buy one lower and you can have every ar-15 made without having to buy another "gun"

but if you want to hand someone a gun without them ending bugging you with a bunch of questions give them an ak

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:50 PM
Never Bring an AR to a Twinke Fight!

You can't post that without the video.

9wIFsG0ey4g

connorr931
09-22-2012, 12:52 PM
IBTL

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:53 PM
IBTL

You're awfully new here to already be aware of the IBTL.:chris:

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:53 PM
AK-47's like this one.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564790_10151077810207562_165381219_n.jpg

That is one awesome looking AK.

Kind of looks like my Glock 7

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:55 PM
http://i769.photobucket.com/albums/xx333/MrPoolsClosed/iPod%20Backgrounds/4539ab74.jpg

Baconator
09-22-2012, 12:56 PM
http://www.neatorama.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/ar15-500x250.jpg

JMP
09-22-2012, 12:57 PM
It will not be decided until Glock makes its rifle.

sd_shooter
09-22-2012, 1:02 PM
http://i580.photobucket.com/albums/ss244/D-Store-Shun/Trolled.jpg

Baconator
09-22-2012, 1:03 PM
It will not be decided until Glock makes its rifle.

Where have you been?

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/1770732overaccesorized.jpg

Gothboy
09-22-2012, 1:09 PM
...

Scuba Steve33
09-22-2012, 1:11 PM
Where have you been?

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/1770732overaccesorized.jpg

WTF is the point of two GLs? Idiots.

Baconator
09-22-2012, 1:15 PM
I've been waiting for your input Bruce.

bruceflinch
09-22-2012, 1:16 PM
My friend, it seems that you may be accidently upsetting the natural flow. I think it may be best to advise you to check the search engine in this website before asking such vague questions about "better" things, because as it seems to me there is no "better" just a "better for me, for this particular scenario" type of thing. Since each scenario is different and different people will prefer different answers to eah, its all prefrence amigo. Have a great day.

:xeno:

:troll: ing the :troll: ? ;)

Baconator
09-22-2012, 1:18 PM
:xeno:

:troll: ing the :troll: ? ;)

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/pappabacon/Calguns/bjpennI.jpg

Exile Machine
09-22-2012, 1:19 PM
Still waiting for the poll...
Be sure there's an M1 GARAND option in it. 'Cause the M1 is the greatest battle implement ever devised.

-Mark

Baconator
09-22-2012, 1:22 PM
Still waiting for the poll...
Be sure there's an M1 GARAND option in it. 'Cause the M1 is the greatest battle implement ever devised.

-Mark

Added a poll.

connorr931
09-22-2012, 1:42 PM
http://tinyurl.com/7oab2l5

connorr931
09-22-2012, 1:42 PM
http://tinyurl.com/7oab2l5

mosinnagantm9130
09-22-2012, 1:44 PM
Mosin.

Gothboy
09-22-2012, 1:58 PM
http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab305/pappabacon/Calguns/bjpennI.jpg

Dude. Relax. No need to get all internet hostile lol. It was a joke. :)

Baconator
09-22-2012, 2:00 PM
Dude. Relax. No need to get all internet hostile lol. It was a joke. :)

That's Bruce. He was gonna kick bj penn's ***, so I'd watch it.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

MrPlink
09-22-2012, 2:02 PM
Hold on, Im stuck in the past and arguing with old marines on A3 vs M1 Garand.

Dinosaur Jr
09-22-2012, 2:04 PM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-6oYA7-b5hfo/UF43TyIpF1I/AAAAAAAABi4/R0Q36LSzN7A/s499/funny-pictures-troll-car-hating.jpg

prerunners4life
09-22-2012, 2:05 PM
I voted for the sig ak(aka 556R)
The 556 that takes ak mags and will prob shoot a lil straighter..
Awsome idea..

strokesdmb
09-22-2012, 2:11 PM
Probably go with an AKR. Heard theyre awesome

Sent from my LePanII using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2

cabinetguy
09-22-2012, 2:13 PM
I think someone is trying to catch up with fp

Gothboy
09-22-2012, 2:14 PM
That's Bruce. He was gonna kick bj penn's ***, so I'd watch it.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

lol. If by watch it you mean by taking an interest in viewing the beatdown, im in. Otherwise, Its the internet. Internet threats are funny. :)

Josey Wales
09-22-2012, 2:24 PM
The REAL question is what gun is better....Glock or Sig.

socalbowhunter
09-22-2012, 2:24 PM
I think someone is trying to catch up with fp

That is quite a challenge. I think he can do it.

Bull's_eye
09-22-2012, 2:45 PM
Trolling the rifle and handgun forum now, haven't been to shotgun yet, maybe the Troll has a "burning desire to know" if a mossberg 500 or Remington 870 is the best shotgun of all time.

Baconator
09-22-2012, 2:48 PM
Trolling the rifle and handgun forum now, haven't been to shotgun yet, maybe the Troll has a "burning desire to know" if a mossberg 500 or Remington 870 is the best shotgun of all time.

That seems like an excellent question.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

socalbowhunter
09-22-2012, 2:56 PM
Hey Bacon, what gauge is better?

Cadre
09-22-2012, 2:58 PM
http://i1037.photobucket.com/albums/a458/seronian/grasshopper_playing_violin_zps71033890.gif

ChrisZ
09-22-2012, 2:58 PM
That seems like an excellent question.

Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk 2

Sorry pal.

Someone has beat you to it

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=622224

Maybe, you should ask it regardless :D

AleksandreCz
09-22-2012, 3:03 PM
Still waiting for the poll...
Be sure there's an M1 GARAND option in it. 'Cause the M1 is the greatest battle implement ever devised.

-Mark

Seriously ?

luchador768
09-22-2012, 3:16 PM
^^^you must not know your WW 2 Patton lore^^^

Baconator
09-22-2012, 3:17 PM
Hey Bacon, what gauge is better?

.410 all the way

SweetLoutheDuke
09-22-2012, 3:27 PM
For me, the looks of an AK represent fascist militant islam. The AR profile represents freedom and America. Silly maybe, but that' my .02. Plus I love the high velocity 5.56

This made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.....

AleksandreCz
09-22-2012, 3:30 PM
^^^you must not know your WW 2 Patton lore^^^

I am familiar with Patton but as much as I am with the Great generals

socalbowhunter
09-22-2012, 3:41 PM
.410 all the way

FTW

BigRobb
09-22-2012, 4:18 PM
I personally prefer oranges to apples.

I own a Piston AR-15 which is kind of a bastardization of both. I mainly got it because of the ease of cleaning. Shoots well and 100% reliable so far.

In a perfect world I would own both because they are both amazing weapons.

Voted AR, it's the platform I trained on in the Army, and what I own. Looking to buy a AK variant next :)

Sent using smoke signals

BHPFan
09-22-2012, 7:05 PM
For me, the looks of an AK represent fascist militant islam. The AR profile represents freedom and America. Silly maybe, but that' my .02. Plus I love the high velocity 5.56

Maybe America, but one rifle is already nicknamed "The Right Arm of The Free World." and that certainly ain't the AR.

Baconator
09-22-2012, 7:06 PM
So far the poll has AR at 10, AK at 9 and phased plasma rifle at 4.

Better get ready exile machine!!!!!!!

BHPFan
09-22-2012, 7:07 PM
To the OP, what are the purposes of the rifle that you're looking for?

Both have their own pros and cons.

Baconator
09-22-2012, 7:08 PM
To the OP, what are the purposes of the rifle that you're looking for?

Both have their own pros and cons.

I just want what's the best. Best evar.

Cali-Shooter
09-22-2012, 7:09 PM
I actually couldn't decide. So I got both, and two of each at that...

ir0nclash86
09-22-2012, 7:24 PM
AR > AK

UNLESS its a krink ak

http://www.internationalpolicesupply.net/krink762sf.jpg
http://www.neverenoughguns.com/BulgyKrink/4.JPG

Gothboy
09-22-2012, 7:36 PM
I actually couldn't decide. So I got both, and two of each at that...

LOL! I thought for sure I was the only loony who does things like that! :)

RuggedJay
09-22-2012, 7:40 PM
WTF is the point of two GLs? Idiots.

So u can launch grenades, while ur launching grenades. Duh.

Btw, this is a no-brainer. 10/22. Duh.

socalbowhunter
09-22-2012, 7:43 PM
I've heard AK's are really modular and easy to change accessories, but I've heard AR's are really reliable.

Baconator
09-22-2012, 7:44 PM
I've heard AK's are really modular and easy to change accessories, but I've heard AR's are really reliable.

yes, this is the truth

ChaneRZ
09-22-2012, 7:46 PM
It's this time of thread again huh. How bout them glocks vs 1911s? LoL

shooter556
09-22-2012, 7:46 PM
Both! AR is easier to accessorize. AK you have to buy all this stupid **** that makes it much heavier. AK is definitely more reliable but that doesn't mean the AR isn't reliable, it just isn't AS reliable as an AK. AR is definitely more PRECISE but the AK is accurate enough for what it was meant for. AK is not a target shooting weapon. It is a two legged beast dropping weapon! Both!

socalbowhunter
09-22-2012, 7:51 PM
It's this time of thread again huh. How bout them glocks vs 1911s? LoL

So are you saying a Glock 1911 is better than an AK or AR? Do the Glock 1911's come in 38super? I want one.

ChaneRZ
09-22-2012, 8:09 PM
How about 5.56 vs 7.62x39? :whistling:

510GUY
09-22-2012, 8:15 PM
How about 9 or .40 what's better

Cali-Shooter
09-22-2012, 9:11 PM
LOL! I thought for sure I was the only loony who does things like that! :)

Amen bro, and it's not looniness, it is said, one gun is none, two guns are one, and three guns are two.

Gotta find spare parts for your firearms from somewhere.

Cadre
09-22-2012, 9:14 PM
This is still going hmmm.

BHPFan
09-23-2012, 3:21 AM
I just want what's the best. Best evar.

Get both.

Kokopelli
09-23-2012, 7:29 AM
I can't vote. Sturmgewer is not in the poll.

http://ww2total.com/WW2/Weapons/Infantry/Firearms/German/StG44/images/Sturmgewehr44.jpg

AVID HUNTER
09-23-2012, 7:51 AM
AK-47's like this one.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564790_10151077810207562_165381219_n.jpg

That's not an AK.

Timmay
09-23-2012, 8:02 AM
That's not an AK.

oh...:tt2:

smittty
09-23-2012, 8:16 AM
Does the AR or AK in the poll have a bullet button?

I'm not sure if it's my turn to reply to this serious topic so if my reply is out of turn please forgive and I'll skip a turn on the next round, yes?

Baconator
09-23-2012, 8:18 AM
Does the AR or AK in the poll have a bullet button?

I'm not sure if it's my turn to reply to this serious topic so if my reply is out of turn please forgive and I'll skip a turn on the next round, yes?

You should start a new thread with a poll.

donw
09-23-2012, 8:25 AM
this may sound strange...but...depending on the situation...

for COMBAT...an AK...a FIXED stock AK.

for many, if not most, other situations...an AR

the AK is a battle proven arm that is the most reliable, plentiful, rugged, PROVEN, shoulder-fired, small arm on the planet with reasonable, inherent battle accuracy.

the AR is the most highly publicized rifle in the US, most notably from out of Hollywood and all the "SWAT" photo-ops. while it's much more reliable now than it was in it's troubled past...i think it comes up short in the 5.56 role as a COMBAT cartridge unless kept within 300yd usage.

the average engagement in Vietnam was at 40 yards...in Afghanistan, 600 yds.

luchador768
09-23-2012, 9:12 AM
Just to cloud the issue a bit more, the Russians are making an AR pattern rifle now.

Cali-Shooter
09-23-2012, 10:23 AM
AK-47's like this one.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564790_10151077810207562_165381219_n.jpg

Link to article? That's the most recent example of this that I've seen in a while:

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/guide_to_firearms_tfb-tfb5.jpg

Dinosaur Jr
09-23-2012, 10:54 AM
Get both.

^^My best advice^^

Then you can have each rifle arm wrestle and settle it once and for all...

But seriously, why wouldn't you want at least one of each? Embrace diversity my friends!

RobertSmith
09-23-2012, 10:55 AM
Each of us has asked that question at some point. Everyone will give you their opinion. The best thing to do is explore both yourself. Go into your local gunshop with an open mind, and look over the AK for a week, then the AR the next. When you have exhausted your thrill, and you can start answering questions about each fire arm yourself, then its time to decide for yourself.

Then, and only then, will you get what you want. This is kind of a "Ford v. Chevy" discussion.

I ended up liking the Smith & Wesson M&P15, piston driven, that shoots both .223 and .556 rounds. It's the nicest pogo stick I've got.

Sniper3142
09-23-2012, 11:13 AM
There is no one rifle that's "best". They both have their separate roles for different situations.

Both have their strengths and both have their weaknesses.

Exactly correct!

To the op...

"BEST" depends on where and how a rifle will be used. There is no one "best".

Mission dictates form.

Best could mean "most accurate", or "hardest hitting", or "most flexible", or "most reliable".

There is no easy simple single answer. PERIOD.

Inquirer
09-23-2012, 11:48 AM
This made me throw up in my mouth a little bit.....

QFT

RobertSmith
09-23-2012, 11:51 AM
WTF is QFT?????

ChaneRZ
09-23-2012, 12:09 PM
what is WTF?

LOL google is your friend

BigRobb
09-23-2012, 12:22 PM
AK-47's like this one.

https://sphotos-b.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/564790_10151077810207562_165381219_n.jpg

Reminds me of the true story about ATF confiscating 300 airsoft guns because they "can easily be converted to assault weapons" there's a youtube vid of it. Just can't link from my phone.

Sent using smoke signals

BigRobb
09-23-2012, 12:28 PM
I also love hot the phased plasma rifle at 40w is now beating AK in votes haha

chead
09-23-2012, 12:45 PM
I also love hot the phased plasma rifle at 40w is now beating AK in votes haha

Only what'cha see, pal.

shooter556
09-23-2012, 12:59 PM
this may sound strange...but...depending on the situation...

for COMBAT...an AK...a FIXED stock AK.

for many, if not most, other situations...an AR

the AK is a battle proven arm that is the most reliable, plentiful, rugged, PROVEN, shoulder-fired, small arm on the planet with reasonable, inherent battle accuracy.

the AR is the most highly publicized rifle in the US, most notably from out of Hollywood and all the "SWAT" photo-ops. while it's much more reliable now than it was in it's troubled past...i think it comes up short in the 5.56 role as a COMBAT cartridge unless kept within 300yd usage.

the average engagement in Vietnam was at 40 yards...in Afghanistan, 600 yds.

AK at 600 yards falls short as well. See, both have it's ups and downs. I think they are both excellent weapons. If we can compare them at close to mid range shooting, I think they are both equal.

pyro3k2
09-23-2012, 1:05 PM
yes!!!!!! the phased plasma rifle in the 40 watt range is second in the poll!!!!! come on Calgun trolls it's time to unite for the greater good!!!

vintagearms
09-23-2012, 1:49 PM
Trade offs for both. I will still stick with the AR over the AK.

TitanIsrael
09-23-2012, 3:06 PM
Ak variant in 556 caliber best of both worlds. ( Saiga 223 )

The Virus
09-23-2012, 3:09 PM
AR is like a race car, AK is like a pinto

MrPlink
09-23-2012, 3:17 PM
AR is like a race car, AK is like a pinto

You always have the deepest and most thought out thread responses.

ExtremeX
09-23-2012, 3:26 PM
Bacon makes everything better...

http://www.geekologie.com/2009/04/14/gun3.jpg

Socalman
09-23-2012, 7:48 PM
Yes I agree.



But which one is better?

The question that must be asked of you is "better for what?"

BajaJames83
09-23-2012, 7:51 PM
what about the shoulder thing that goes up....

smittty
09-23-2012, 9:47 PM
100% without question the AR15 is better. There I said it, now we can all go to sleep knowing which is better.

ChaneRZ
09-23-2012, 9:48 PM
Ak is better man

drdanno84
09-23-2012, 9:54 PM
170873

170874Proven battle weapons, reliable and low maintenance170871 170872

cannon
09-23-2012, 10:01 PM
My soul is burning.

You're a ginger. You have no soul.

Gothboy
09-24-2012, 4:02 AM
You're a ginger. You have no soul.

Hey man dont taunt a ginger. They can get really angry. My girlfriends a ginger. I told her she had no soul too. That made her mad so she showed me her soul.

It was scary. It was in a jar. She stole darth vaders soul... Watch out!

BHPFan
09-24-2012, 4:37 AM
Hey man dont taunt a ginger. They can get really angry. My girlfriends a ginger. I told her she had no soul too. That made her mad so she showed me her soul.

It was scary. It was in a jar. She stole darth vaders soul... Watch out!

This.

I agree. Don't get a ginger girl mad or she'll really rip a new one on you.

mike_the_wino
09-24-2012, 8:30 AM
For me, the looks of an AK represent fascist militant islam.
Young padawan you must look past your present to the origins. A long time ago, in a country very far away, a young peasant turned tanker struck with an idea. This brilliant man single handily created the most prolific firearm in the world while recovering from wounds suffered defending his peace loving, Communist homeland from the Fascist hordes.

This rifle would originally be used by the Great Soviet Union, in the hands of vodka swilling peasants, to challenge the Imperialistic designs of Capitalism. The mighty bear eventually realized that they could not hold back the wave of freedom that was being forced upon the working class by the bourgeois West so they generously allowed other nations access to this fine firearm of equality and thus it spread.

So, for clarification, militant Islam is late to the party. They did not build that, others (Russians) did.

RAMCHARGER
09-24-2012, 9:19 AM
Pointy stick wasn't on the list

chead
09-24-2012, 9:22 AM
Hey all, just checking in to see if this was settled yet.

Cadre
09-24-2012, 9:31 AM
Longest thread ever.

Mendo223
09-24-2012, 9:41 AM
BOTH. they each have their own pros and cons. personally i love my AR15, it is an awesome gun that is very accurate...i could build 4 or 5 different ARs and still want to build a 6th because they are just so damn customizable.


but...i do have an AK in dros that i cant wait to play with. imo the AK is a better plinker, something that is cheap and fun to shoot at the range without worry...also a good SHTF battle rifle that you dont need to worry about jamming...

21SF
09-24-2012, 9:52 AM
This thread burns my soul.

Roach_Infinity
09-24-2012, 9:57 AM
This thread burns my soul.

Mine too... I am ASHAMED that only two other Calgunners thus far have voted for the 10/22.

-Eric

sharxbyte
09-24-2012, 10:06 AM
was that horse shot with an AR or an AK?

an ar that shoots ak rounds of course:p:D

lawaia
09-24-2012, 10:23 AM
This thread burns my soul.

More like creates heartburn.:)

defcon
09-24-2012, 10:25 AM
Mine too... I am ASHAMED that only two other Calgunners thus far have voted for the 10/22.

-Eric

i voted for 10/22

AK47 10/22. pew pew pewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8298/7990840153_78e1788003_o.jpg

Timbob55
09-24-2012, 2:16 PM
best for what?

BruinGuy
09-24-2012, 3:26 PM
The ones that are MINE are the best. Does that settle it?

mike_the_wino
09-24-2012, 3:28 PM
The real answer is: waffles

smittty
09-24-2012, 3:53 PM
I had 2 waffles with real Canadian maple syrup this morning and I'm going to agree, waffles are the best! How come waffles aren't on the poll?

joelberg
09-24-2012, 4:02 PM
OOZZEE

IEatZ28
09-24-2012, 4:13 PM
This is rediculous.

But AK.

gotshotgun?
09-24-2012, 4:42 PM
RK?

Cadre
09-24-2012, 6:32 PM
Ar47 there!

Moonshine
09-24-2012, 7:06 PM
The one you can effectively put more rounds on target with in a combat situation.

mcisniper
09-24-2012, 7:40 PM
:lurk5:

five.five-six
09-24-2012, 7:47 PM
slingshot

9ieWrWLjii0

Cato
09-24-2012, 7:57 PM
It's apples and oranges.

AKs are great if you need to outfit an army with assault rifles and you don't have much cash. If your soldiers are uneducated and poorly supported, AKs are the way to go.

ARs are the way to go if you have a modern army and have a support system.

ARs are higher quality and more accurate firearms. They work for anyone with some basic education and training.

five.five-six
09-24-2012, 8:00 PM
slingshot

9ieWrWLjii0

mjmagee67
09-24-2012, 8:04 PM
Yes

norcal.xd
09-24-2012, 8:06 PM
Its just like the old coke vs Pepsi debate. For me its an ar-15 & Dr. Pepper...... :-)

Ukiahgunnut
09-24-2012, 8:10 PM
Is that a type of AR or AK? Bread eating troll version? I'm still learning.

Looks like an AKR to me. :)

bubbapug1
09-24-2012, 8:14 PM
AR -

More accurate
Lighter
Configurable into other calibers and barrel types
Simple operation
Much better stock sights

AK

More durable
Cheaper ammo
Cheaper to purchase
Requires less upkeep
Looks like a killing machine


Tie

They both kill and maim efficiently

This thread should be locked and the OP banned for life.

ChaneRZ
09-24-2012, 8:17 PM
This thread is still going?

Glock vs Ak? which one?

Roach_Infinity
09-24-2012, 8:50 PM
Glock vs Ak? which one?

Nooooo my braen!

-Eric

Lc17smp
09-24-2012, 8:53 PM
AK's are like fat women. Some will prefer them. Doesn't make it right. But some will still prefer them.

bighead
09-24-2012, 9:18 PM
AR's are like purses, if they don't have the right label, bickering will ensue.

noob_tube
09-24-2012, 9:32 PM
KAC SR-47

http://i289.photobucket.com/albums/ll208/narkotikchaos/kacsr47.jpg

/thread

drifter2be
09-24-2012, 9:33 PM
If it goes bang and puts rounds on target who gives a crap? some people are going to prefer the ergos and controls of the AK over the AR and some will prefer the ergos and controls of the AR over the AK.

I currently have a 16" AR but am dying to get an AK as well. As soon as I get my tax stamp and get my 10.5" AR build slapped together I am going to sell off my 16" AR and pick myself up an AK pattern rifle. I'm not picky and like a bit of everything...that said, if the S ever does HTF then I will be dang glad about building a 10.5" AR since that is my planned end of the world rifle.

captbilly
09-24-2012, 9:57 PM
It is a bit like asking, is an F-16 better than a B-1, they were designed for very different purposes. I wouldn't want to go air to air in a B-1 vs. F-16 battle, but if I wanted to knock out multiple ground targets 3000 miles from base I wouldn't even think about using an F-16. Likewise, I wouldn't want to try to take a 600 meter shot with an AK (there are people who regularly compete in 1000 yard F class with ARs) but I also wouldn't want to arm a bunch of unsupported guerrillas with ARs. The AR (M-16) was designed for a well supported and financed army (US Army) that wanted a very accurate rifle, the AK was designed by the Soviet Union, shortly after WW2 when they still believed that they needed a very cheap and easy to maintain weapon, and accuracy at range simply wasn't a concern. Both rifles were very good at meeting their design goals .

Personally I greatly prefer the accuracy of the AR platform to the cheapness of the AK, but I have money and I like long range target shooting.

Mr_Monkeywrench
09-24-2012, 10:12 PM
F.A.L!!!
/thread

BradleyAbrams
09-25-2012, 2:25 AM
The AK is better than the AR..

My logic:

At the Local Range; shooting paper, either will do fine But the AK ammo is cheaper.

Advantage = AK


In an Urban CQB, the AK's 7.62X39 will penetrate Masonry better than a 5.56.If your target is hiding behind a wall, the AK can reach out, penetrate the wall and touch him. The AR round most likely would not penetrate as well, if at all.

Advantage = AK


Now let us move the scenario out in the country, say 300+ Meters. Yes the AR is more accurate at that range, as the AK trajectory tends to drop off beyond 300 Meters. But here again, the AR's 5.56 rouind will Not penetrate masonry or mud walls at those ranges.. What you need in such a case is a .308 caliber FN-FAL

Advantage = FN-FAL


Let us recap -

A) At the Local Shooting Range, AKs are cheaper to shoot.

B) Urban CQB scenario, AKs penetrate concealment walls better.

C) Out in the open, FN-FAL rules, AR drools


Now - Between the AK and the FN-FAL, I would go with the FN.

But this was not the question asked. Therefore my answer is:

AK All the Way.



.
Just my opinion... :cool:

Jel
09-26-2012, 6:00 PM
Wish we had access to the program they used on Ultimate Warrior.

I would then pit 100 trained soldiers with AK's with 30 round magazines against 100 equally trained soldiers with AR-15's and 30 round magazines.

Each man would carry the same amount of ammo, in WEIGHT as the AK guys would be at a mobility disadvantage if they carried the same amount of bullets.

They would then go in to battle with similar terrain for both sides with no terrain advantage given to either.

Wonder who would win.

91 whiskey 209
09-26-2012, 6:57 PM
Can't see the poll on my iPhone, who won?

ChaneRZ
09-26-2012, 7:10 PM
Glock did

91 whiskey 209
09-26-2012, 7:29 PM
Glock did

Nice

eclectic
09-27-2012, 10:51 AM
Link to article? That's the most recent example of this that I've seen in a while:

http://cdn5.thefirearmsblog.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/guide_to_firearms_tfb-tfb5.jpg

I LOL'd.


Young padawan you must look past your present to the origins. A long time ago, in a country very far away, a young peasant turned tanker struck with an idea. This brilliant man single handily created the most prolific firearm in the world while recovering from wounds suffered defending his peace loving, Communist homeland from the Fascist hordes.

This rifle would originally be used by the Great Soviet Union, in the hands of vodka swilling peasants, to challenge the Imperialistic designs of Capitalism. The mighty bear eventually realized that they could not hold back the wave of freedom that was being forced upon the working class by the bourgeois West so they generously allowed other nations access to this fine firearm of equality and thus it spread.

So, for clarification, militant Islam is late to the party. They did not build that, others (Russians) did.

I LOL'd again.

Mamluke
09-27-2012, 11:45 AM
..... NO CONTEST! .....

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