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PerfectReset
09-12-2012, 9:23 PM
Got to put some .22 and 9mm down range today... Made for two very nice side by side comparisons shooting the GSG 1911 .22LR vs. the Glock 26 with Advantage Arms .22LR Conversion, and the G26 9mm vs. the M&P Full Size 9mm.

GSG 1911 .22 vs. Glock 26/AA .22 Conv I was firing Federal bulk out of the GSG 1911 (flawlessly) and CCI Mini Mag out of the Glock/AA (flawlessly). I like shooting the GSG because it gets a nice bit of recoil even with Federal bulk ammo which I like as it is a practice toy for me. That said, compared to the G26/AA .22 shooting Minimag, the GSG felt VERY tame. The G26/AA felt like I was firing .22 Magnum; this is great as I want to us the G26/Advantage Arms conversion for practicing at a reduced cost. I was more accurate with the GSG, the G26 wasn't bad but it was shooting about 4-6 inches high at 15 yards with the rear sight as low as I could set it. I will have to see if I am not adjusting it properly or if I can raise the front sight to force me to aim lower. Open to suggestions. I do find the GSG thumb safety to be sharp and uncomfortable to ride. Oddly, the right side looks smooth, not sure if that can be switched around but maybe the guy I bought it from was a lefty? I was able to block out the pain but if it were a .45 it would probably draw blood being as sharp as it is (see Photo).

For cost comparison, buying through Cabella's with no tax (and waiting for them to have their free shipping sales, typically seen on orders over $150):

Federal: $13/375rd = $1.74/50rd
CCI MM: $25/375rd = $3.34/50rd
Herters 9mm: ------- =$10.0/50rd

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Killer Safety:
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Glock 26 9mm vs. S&W M&P 9mm The M&P is upgraded with Apex Triger/Ram, and sear/block mod. Granted, completely different frame sizes but I personally find the trigger to be the most important quality of a gun in terms of resultant accuracy. By this I do not mean one gun/trigger is more accurate, but instead that I shoot more accurately with it due to the feedback, weight, break, reset, etc. The reason I bought the M&P was because it was modified by the prior owner, I didn't particularly like shooting a factory M&P despite the ergonomic grip. I have not always been a Glock guy but this has been a Glock year for me and I don't think I will ever look back. I will take my other guns out now and then but I have decided to standardize on Glock for both target shooting and personal defense purposes. My reasons are: Sophistication through Simplicity, Ease of Use/Cleaning, Trigger, Compatibility between models, Reliability, and value. I hated shooting my Glock 35 during my first few years of shooting when I shot less often to the point where I (now regretfully) traded it towards other guns. Now that I shoot ever 1-3 weeks I love the Glock platform.

Today I found the stock Glock trigger feedback to be more predictable and crisper than the M&P, but it was kind of helpful not knowing the exact moment the M&P would fire to avoid compensating (flinching). I did like the lack of initial sponginess offered by the Apex trigger a lot. I shot them about evenly once I got used to the S&W Nightsights (normally shoot Glock, just picked up this custom M&P9 from another Calgunner):

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Due to all the adjustments and tests, the groupings were good but not as telling as they will be next time out on a clean slate. I will take the same guns out again and take some pictures of groupings for a "Chapter 2" thread. Overall, it was a shooting day so... it was a good day!

Whatisthis?
09-12-2012, 11:55 PM
Thanks for the comparisons.

My personal opinion: Glock 26 and M&P = the sh**. GSG 1911 = sh**

The GSG 1911 has had too many catastrophic failures for me to even touch one

PerfectReset
09-13-2012, 9:24 AM
I'll post if any occur.

Thanks for the comparisons.

My personal opinion: Glock 26 and M&P = the sh**. GSG 1911 = sh**

The GSG 1911 has had too many catastrophic failures for me to even touch one

Ubermcoupe
09-13-2012, 9:43 AM
I’ve had nothing but success with mine. I actually prefer my GSG over any of my other 22s (for plinking that is). The issue I have with shooting the full size AA conversion is its not rated for HV ammo.

I actually prefer shooting the GSG 1911 over the Colt/Umarex 1911 that I have.

:shrug:

PerfectReset
09-16-2012, 4:31 PM
I’ve had nothing but success with mine. I actually prefer my GSG over any of my other 22s (for plinking that is). The issue I have with shooting the full size AA conversion is its not rated for HV ammo.

I actually prefer shooting the GSG 1911 over the Colt/Umarex 1911 that I have.

:shrug:

I agree, one of the best .22 pistols made and it mimics an actual full size 1911 platform nearly perfectly. My only gripe right now is the safety being jagged on the left side and digging into my hand, and perhaps that it's a 1911 so take down is a bit of work for cleaning but where it counts... Great gun and take down is way easier than the MKIII or Buckmark. I am picking up a S&W 22S Bull Barrell that seems way easier to clean. I'll do a comparison in a few weeks.