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Colt562
09-11-2012, 8:41 PM
Well Im looking at getting a new 9mm, something for HD/Sport/Plinking. I'm a 1911 guy, but not in 9mm. 45 acp the way it should be. I'm not that into Glocks. I was looking at something like the Smith and Wesson M&P 9. What say you?

Like said above I need something for HD/Sport/plinking. I dont want a compact gun. I want to shoot it with my reloads.

Eventually I was to add a laser/flashlight combo, so I like the idea of having a rail.

Got another question that pertains to this. Can police officers transfer off list handguns to civilians or did that bill Asomething pass?

kotetu
09-11-2012, 8:45 PM
Love my SP2022. :) Comes with a rail, lasers and flashlights are available and cheap.

steve91104
09-11-2012, 8:46 PM
FNP-9 is a nice gun

Colt562
09-11-2012, 8:47 PM
Love my SP2022. :) Comes with a rail, lasers and flashlights are available and cheap.

hows the weight? it looks kinda bulky. I was hoping for something smaller, so when if I can get my CCW later in life, I can carry this. Im only 19, so got a while.

hybridkarpower
09-11-2012, 8:52 PM
Rent a few of them & shoot the crap of them while you're at it. Nothing beats hands-on experience. After that you'll narrow them down really quick.

maj0rglitch
09-11-2012, 8:53 PM
Love my SP2022. :)
+1.

Colt562
09-11-2012, 8:54 PM
Rent a few of them & shoot the crap of them while you're at it. Nothing beats hands-on experience. After that you'll narrow them down really quick.

do you think the ranges with let me shoot my reloads through them?

Creek Johnson
09-11-2012, 8:58 PM
Love my m&p9

TheThousands
09-11-2012, 9:00 PM
do you think the ranges with let me shoot my reloads through them?

Most likely not, most ranges want you to shoot their ammo through their guns.

+1 for the M&P9

chozenfew805
09-11-2012, 9:02 PM
Since you've said your not into Glocks, my next recommendation but on the pricier side is a Sig P226R. I've had mine for awhile and have nothing bad to say about it other than I wish I'd bought it earlier:)

Mossy Man
09-11-2012, 9:03 PM
if you like the M&P9, go for it.

A friend of mine has the M&P40, and i think its a great gun.

Colt562
09-11-2012, 9:03 PM
Since you've said your not into Glocks, my next recommendation but on the pricier side is a Sig P226R. I've had mine for awhile and have nothing bad to say about it other than I wish I'd bought it earlier:)

yeah just never been into them, they look like great guns, just cant see myself owning one. Im looking at something in the 500 dollar range.

GuillermoAntonio
09-11-2012, 9:08 PM
yeah just never been into them, they look like great guns, just cant see myself owning one. Im looking at something in the 500 dollar range.

Whatever you do, MAKE SURE you try the CZ-75 SP-01 before buying anything else, its around $579-$619 depending on where you buy, it will resemble a 1911 to you due to its controls and shape and it will rock your world.

.45 ftw!
09-11-2012, 9:09 PM
Consider the xd9 tactical

fullrearview
09-11-2012, 9:10 PM
Look at the Glock, XD, XDM, M&P.

I shoot the XDm the best, so I bought one.

The Ruger SR9 is nice too.

scotty99
09-11-2012, 9:15 PM
Don't forget the Walther PPQ. Very nice gun and maybe the best stock trigger out there right now.

liberty47
09-11-2012, 9:22 PM
XD9, very smooth, very affordable

Colt562
09-11-2012, 9:25 PM
Forgot to mention I was something polymer

fullrearview
09-11-2012, 9:26 PM
BTW, I have had thousands upon thousands of rounds down this weapon and it finally had it's 1st issue... Mag failed to lock the slide back. No worries... Springfield has the best customer service out there. I'm certain they will just send a new mag.

Now having said that, I have ran this gun longer, harder, dryer, and dirtier than any other gun and I have not had a single issue with the gun. Most here would cringe at the treatment of it. It just wants more.

All of the guns I listed should do the same.

Colt562
09-11-2012, 9:45 PM
Ill have to go and hold a springfield, Im kinda leaning towards the smith and wesson, felt good in my hands

GuillermoAntonio
09-11-2012, 10:02 PM
Forgot to mention I was something polymer

May I ask why Polymer?
I tought you needed a target gun, if thats the case, there shouldnt be an issue if its not polymer, as you will not be carrying it.
But of course thats something you decide :P

PerfectReset
09-11-2012, 10:07 PM
I like my Custom/Full Size M&P 9mm but still prefer and recommend the Glock 19, particularly in CA where we can't go above 10 rounds. If you shoot the Glock enough it will grow on you... particularly: Trigger break/reset feedback, break down/cleaning, and sophistication via simplicity.

Here are my favorite 9mm's I own considering all around: Performance, Reliability, Consistency, and Capability: G19, G26, M&P9 & CZ 75 (the Glock photo only contains a G23 & G26). Photos:

http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/stillclaimndp/1gun/MyMPSet.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/stillclaimndp/1gun/29573EC1-501A-4F9A-8598-7E416FE1C27C-16869-00000E44DA4D45FB.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/stillclaimndp/1gun/3E17B1C0-2812-464C-8B1D-DF1BE6E27A1C-16649-00000E33B1B810A5.jpg
http://i174.photobucket.com/albums/w88/stillclaimndp/1gun/D1A91DAD-631C-450E-8EE4-487CFEF17898-16649-00000E2E04C0B541.jpg

PerfectReset
09-11-2012, 10:14 PM
If possible, I advise you rent/shoot the S&W M&P Semi-Auto Pistols before purchasing. Despite the ergonomics of the grip, I didn't care for the factory trigger and sights when shooting it. Try it side by side with a Glock 19. Glocks take practice but with enough range time, most folks never look back. That said, if you can get your hands on an S&W M&P Shield 9mm, that trigger is awesome.

Ill have to go and hold a springfield, Im kinda leaning towards the smith and wesson, felt good in my hands

mbt
09-11-2012, 10:40 PM
Ever heard of Hi Point C-9?

stix213
09-11-2012, 10:43 PM
My buddy loves his M&P 40 compact that he put an apex trigger in. I kinda dig it too. Should be about the same in 9mm. Trigger kinda feels mushy without the trigger upgrade IMO though (I think it is just because of how the factory trigger has the joint in the middle or whatever they call it).

Personally I love my Glock 17C 3rd gen 9mm. Fantastic gun

fullspeed1
09-11-2012, 11:09 PM
hows the weight? it looks kinda bulky. I was hoping for something smaller, so when if I can get my CCW later in life, I can carry this. Im only 19, so got a while.

19? Sounds like you should wait a couple of years....

kotetu
09-11-2012, 11:22 PM
hows the weight? it looks kinda bulky. I was hoping for something smaller, so when if I can get my CCW later in life, I can carry this. Im only 19, so got a while.About 775-800g. It's a full sized gun, not a compact.

If you're looking for a compact, maybe one of the glocks.

ElDub1950
09-11-2012, 11:30 PM
do you think the ranges with let me shoot my reloads through them?

Basically, never. Just too many problems with people experimenting with hand loads. You know, loading up their +++P and not wanting to blow up their own gun to test it.

Eldraque
09-11-2012, 11:48 PM
if your 19 how r u gonna buy a handgun?

Maddawg46
09-12-2012, 4:10 AM
Look at the Ruger SR9C. It's compact with a nice trigger, ambi safety and adjustable sights. Great gun!

Euphoria526
09-12-2012, 5:44 AM
Ewwww how can so many people recommend an m&p?
They shoot wayyyy to high on the sights. You HAVE to shoot at 6 o clock and aim low to hit anything.
I'd say try the CZ's, the Springfield xd's are real nice, though. Stay away from glock hype unless you 'need' to spend cash on upgrades that'll make it shoot like its broken in from stock.

.... And cue meatheads rang about my glock hatin.

Colt562
09-12-2012, 6:52 AM
I'm not the one buying it just so no one freaks out

TATER313
09-12-2012, 7:06 AM
CZ 75 would be my first choice, but the MP9 are great guns, very reliable.

HermanH
09-12-2012, 7:12 AM
Having shot an XD, I have to say they are not too bad. My only comparison is my 92FS which for you, won't fill the bill (all steel, not really CCW friendly). But the XD compact would be good. Like others have said, rent them all fire 20 or 30 rounds out of each, may want to bring a note pad to list pro's and con's of each (there will be).

I"ve tested and H&K and a Sig before but that was some 3 or 4 years ago. Never got around to a Glock but from what I can remember, the H&K shot every bit as well as the Sig, but one of them didn't feel as comfortable in my hand; I'll be back to do that test again since I'll be in your shoes probably within 6 months (after getting my revolver next week.) Reeds has all of the pistols I want to test so it should be a good day of testing for me.

Good luck on your selection.

tbhracing
09-12-2012, 7:32 AM
Another vote for the SP2022. But I do consider it more of a full-sized pistol.

SIGman Freud
09-12-2012, 7:59 AM
HK 30 or Walther PPQ.

Nuff sed.

4DMASTR
09-12-2012, 8:02 AM
Love my SP2022. :)

This, For the price its a great firearm

redhemi
09-12-2012, 8:41 AM
You say your a 1911 guy so you might want to check out a Ruger SR9. I have what I say is a medium sized hand thats why I like the fit and feel of a 1911 and my SR9 feels the same way. The controls on my SR resemble a 1911 although a bit smaller and I can work them fairly easily with my thumb. I have the 2nd gen which some have complained about the trigger being gritty but has smoothed out with use and works very well now. The new SRs have a better trigger and the D shaped mag release button which works better than my round one. The SR IMO is a great gun at a reasonable price and Ruger has top notch customer service if needed. Good luck with whatever you decide and be safe and have fun shooting.

ArkinDomino
09-12-2012, 10:35 AM
M&P9.

theskunk
09-12-2012, 11:22 AM
Get a CZ75 ---- its DA/SA -- reliable

erik_26
09-12-2012, 11:27 AM
So many 9's to choose from.

Beretta 92FS
S&W M&P 9
SAXD 9
SIG 229
Beretta PX4 9
Ruger SR9
Glock
Heck, you can even find a 1911 in 9mm

Euphoria526
09-12-2012, 1:09 PM
You say your a 1911 guy?
Then definitely check out the cz 75. Ther ergo's are VERY similar and comfy to boot

Colt562
09-12-2012, 2:41 PM
You say your a 1911 guy?
Then definitely check out the cz 75. Ther ergo's are VERY similar and comfy to boot

yeah i like the ergonomics, function, reliability, safety everything about the 1911

hybridkarpower
09-12-2012, 4:47 PM
Every range I've ever visited allowed shooters to bring their own ammo for as long as they are not Wolf, or anything with unrecyclable steel casing.

Word to the wise, practice with what you're going to shoot in real life HD situation, so at least buy some full powered Wally World ammo to try out the rental gun.

do you think the ranges with let me shoot my reloads through them?

Euphoria526
09-12-2012, 5:33 PM
yeah i like the ergonomics, function, reliability, safety everything about the 1911

I know that the ergos of the cz 75 closely resemble that of the 1911.
And have gotten high regards for comfort from my cz75 SA from 1911 users as well

Colt562
09-12-2012, 7:11 PM
I'm going to see if I can go to a local range and shoot a couple

SDRider858
09-12-2012, 7:14 PM
I know that the ergos of the cz 75 closely resemble that of the 1911.
And have gotten high regards for comfort from my cz75 SA from 1911 users as well

Agree with euphoria here....I own both and the grips are very similar in nature ...for me its the beavertail and grip angle that helps you feel right at home, the SP01 is even better...If you desire down the road you can always mod the 75b to a SA only...

Price is also a big selling point for me, a 75b is about 500-550 new which isnt bad for an all steel pistol with a long history of duty.

scootle
09-12-2012, 7:24 PM
Ewwww how can so many people recommend an m&p?
They shoot wayyyy to high on the sights. You HAVE to shoot at 6 o clock and aim low to hit anything

huh? :confused:

anyhow, OP probably should make his life simpler by narrowing down the general things first... do you want polymer vs. metal... a hammer vs. striker... do you want DA/SA vs. DAO-type trigger, etc. that narrows the field significantly for 9mm...

if you are a 1911 guy, you might want to look for a classic Browning Hi-Power too... i secretly tell myself i should be lusting for one of these... :D

jfa25
09-12-2012, 7:40 PM
Gonna say for a 1911 guy the Browning Hi Power is the way to go.

trew10
09-12-2012, 7:51 PM
I shoot mainly 9mm, and I would recomed the berreta 92f, it's supper smooth, accurate, nice looking. I do not own a berreta I own a ruger but my shooting buddy's have glocks, dx, hk, highpoint, p95' p89' s&w sigma, berreta. out of all those you can't go wrong with the 92.

Donk310
09-12-2012, 7:59 PM
Oh my… you have so many great choices. I would love to post a list of all the 9mm's I have following the words "I love my". But it won't help you. There are just too many. Post a pic of whatever you buy.

ginman
09-12-2012, 8:00 PM
beretta m9/a1

mysak
09-12-2012, 8:00 PM
+1 M&P

Donk310
09-12-2012, 8:01 PM
I shoot mainly 9mm, and I would recomed the berreta 92f, it's supper smooth, accurate, nice looking. I do not own a berreta I own a ruger but my shooting buddy's have glocks, dx, hk, highpoint, p95' p89' s&w sigma, berreta. out of all those you can't go wrong with the 92.

That is my favorite. I agree with everything you just said, and I don't even own one. Yet ;)

sigma6
09-12-2012, 8:10 PM
You gotta go to a range and try out a few guns preferably ones of different designs. Since you want polymer that gets covered. Then now you gotta decide if you want striker or DA/SA hammer fired, or even SA. The most personal part will be how well the grip feels in your hand. Next will be how the trigger feels buy you can modify or buy a lot of triggers nowadays.

Colt562
09-12-2012, 9:37 PM
wasnt expecting this much of a response, thanks guys for the opinions, its helped alot, Im thinking I might go with the Smith and Wesson M&P 9. Held it a couple days ago and thats what sparked my interest in it, felt really good in my hand and been watching some reviews on it on youtube and havnt heard anything bad about it. Now hopefully I can get it pretty soon, like I said IM NOT THE ONE BUYING it, Im 19 so I cant.

scootle
09-12-2012, 9:55 PM
wasnt expecting this much of a response, thanks guys for the opinions, its helped alot, Im thinking I might go with the Smith and Wesson M&P 9. Held it a couple days ago and thats what sparked my interest in it, felt really good in my hand and been watching some reviews on it on youtube and havnt heard anything bad about it. Now hopefully I can get it pretty soon, like I said IM NOT THE ONE BUYING it, Im 19 so I cant.

as a M&P9 guy, no complaints from me... the ergos of the M&P really sold it to me as my regular-driver over the other (polymer) platforms.

i'd suggest perusing the forums at mp-pistol.com and m4carbine.net for lots of good info about the M&P platform though... a lot more focused and in-depth than what you'll get here at CalGuns. ;)

good luck!

Euphoria526
09-12-2012, 10:25 PM
huh? :confused:

anyhow, OP probably should make his life simpler by narrowing down the general things first... do you want polymer vs. metal... a hammer vs. striker... do you want DA/SA vs. DAO-type trigger, etc. that narrows the field significantly for 9mm...

if you are a 1911 guy, you might want to look for a classic Browning Hi-Power too... i secretly tell myself i should be lusting for one of these... :D

Didn't know how else to explain it. I had to basically shot below what I was aiming at to even hit where I was looking.

TheThousands
09-12-2012, 10:28 PM
Didn't know how else to explain it. I had to basically shot below what I was aiming at to even hit where I was looking.

6 o'clock hold?

fullrearview
09-12-2012, 10:43 PM
If you are looking at the M&P go with the pro series or the VTAC model. They are great guns, I just have limited time on them.

Greez82
09-12-2012, 11:00 PM
Had my mp 9 fs for couple months now and love it! Ergos are great for me. My vote is mp9

Euphoria526
09-13-2012, 11:22 AM
Op- watch hicock45 explain it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgDhURHa0OQ&feature=youtube_gdata_player

IPSICK
09-13-2012, 12:35 PM
The best suggestions I've read so far are the CZ75 and the Browning Hi-Power. I'm not a big fan of any of the other polymer guns other than Glock and maybe H&K (excepting their price).

Colt562
09-13-2012, 12:46 PM
im not really a fan of the cz, dont know what i dont like about them just dont

Euphoria526
09-13-2012, 12:52 PM
im not really a fan of the cz, dont know what i dont like about them just dont

That's the first time I've ever heard that. Lol.
I fell in love when I first shot a rental p01. And then felt others and loved it myself lol.
Well check out the xd, the sig2022, or similar da/sa guns. I'm not a huge fan of striker fired guns myself.

Shapes And Colors
09-13-2012, 12:54 PM
That's the first time I've ever heard that. Lol.
I fell in love when I first shot a rental p01. And then felt others and loved it myself lol.
Well check out the xd, the sig2022, or similar da/sa guns. I'm not a huge fan of striker fired guns myself.

Now you've heard it twice, I don't like them either.

ptgarcia
09-13-2012, 1:12 PM
I have handled a couple CZs now myself and while I thought they were nice I didn't feel they were special. I liked the grip of the SP-01 but the action and trigger of the Beretta 92FS I was comparing it to was cleaner.

Tiberius
09-13-2012, 2:55 PM
If you want to stay 1911ish, the HK USP and (I think) the CZ 75 (or one of the CZs) allow cocked and locked carry. The HK also has DA/SA mode, and I think the CZ does also.

J.D.Allen
09-13-2012, 3:05 PM
I would say look at the P07 Duty. But it's not on the roster so you would have to do a SSE... I also think the M&P 9 would be a good choice, or an SP01, or an SR9...

ainako
09-13-2012, 3:38 PM
My limited pistol experience are various forms of 1911 and a XD9. My first 9mm ended up being a Ruger sr9.

feelgood
09-13-2012, 4:25 PM
You can't go wrong with a Sig. Either the SP 2022 or P 226 Navy or what they call MK25 now. Both are great guns..I've got both...have never failed!!!

BadMatt
09-14-2012, 1:14 AM
I just bought my first 9 mm (and first gun). I rented alot of guns and went through an obsessive process of weighing pros and cons. For me, it came down to the M&P 9 (compact), the Glock 19, and the CZ SP-01. I loved all 3, but I can't shoot 3 guns at once, so I picked the CZ.

On the M&P, the mag release button bugged me. But it was shot well and was more accurate than the Glock. The CZ was definitely the best in accuracy and something about it said to me, "let's ride." I'm in Dross with it right now. Like everyone says, test them out and pick what you like.