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Gun_Owner_901
09-08-2012, 7:58 PM
So I was checking out the list of DOJ safe handguns and I noticed that they have Exp dates to the right of the list, what does that date mean?

Roland Deschain
09-08-2012, 8:07 PM
From the sticky in this forum: (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=81127)

The Roster shows an expiration date; what is that for?

That means it is time for the manufacturer/importer to pay the annual $200 fee for that model. If the fee is paid, the handgun stays on the Roster. Nothing else has to happen. If the fee is paid, no new requirements apply after an expiration date.

mc21
09-08-2012, 8:12 PM
It's when it expires? The manufacturer has to renew or they can't sell the gun in cali through ffl without other loopholes involved.

Gun_Owner_901
09-08-2012, 8:12 PM
Thanks so if a handgun isn't on this list I can't buy it here in California ?

Brandon04GT
09-08-2012, 8:16 PM
It means gimme mo monies otherwise you cannot sell your gun in CA.

Thanks so if a handgun isn't on this list I can't buy it here in California ?

In a retail sense, yes. Unless you are exempt from the roster.

Roland Deschain
09-08-2012, 8:19 PM
Thanks so if a handgun isn't on this list I can't buy it here in California ?

Correct, sorta :D

My understanding is that you could buy an off roster handgun through a private party transfer of someone that owned it legally (ie: a LEO). The other option is a single shot exemption (see sticky links in this forum for more details (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=383692)).

Gun_Owner_901
09-08-2012, 8:21 PM
thanks guys

mc21
09-08-2012, 8:25 PM
yep, what machx0r said. ppt or sse is the only ways to get an off roster gun legally.

Saym14
09-08-2012, 9:37 PM
I think the policticins hope is tht they will all soon expire and not be renewed, thus banning most of the importation of handguns into the state

ShootinXs
09-08-2012, 10:04 PM
I think the policticins hope is tht they will all soon expire and not be renewed, thus banning most of the importation of handguns into the state

Would be Wishful thinking on they're part , the manufacturers spend lots-o-money to keep the firearms on the roster . Not to mention how the loss of revenue would further impact our wonderful economy.

gunprofit
09-08-2012, 10:28 PM
Extortion fee

Brandon04GT
09-08-2012, 10:30 PM
So $200 to renew each gun....how much to put each gun on the roster to begin with?

Gun_Owner_901
09-08-2012, 11:28 PM
so in other words its not about safety at all, they pay the fee and there gun is on the roster, they don't pay the fee they don't get there gun an the roster, simple enough lol

GuillermoAntonio
09-08-2012, 11:32 PM
so in other words its not about safety at all, they pay the fee and there gun is on the roster, they don't pay the fee they don't get there gun an the roster, simple enough lol

Uhmmm don't forget they also have to pass their safety tests.

Bug Splat
09-09-2012, 12:30 AM
Extortion fee

This^^^

Somehow if the money is not paid a pistol becomes unsafe to sell. I hate Cali :mad:

Librarian
09-09-2012, 12:55 AM
So $200 to renew each gun....how much to put each gun on the roster to begin with?

$200 plus THREE copies of the gun to be tested plus ammo to do the testing. Internal paperwork costs and shipping.

butch952
09-09-2012, 3:25 PM
Extortion fee

+1 on that!

quiet-wyatt
09-09-2012, 3:53 PM
Thanks so if a handgun isn't on this list I can't buy it here in California ?

Single actions that exceed certain size limits are exempt from the "Approved List" - Penal Code 12133

Examples: Colt Single Action Army, Ruger Blackhawk, Ruger Vaquero, etc...

Go the this document on the CA DOJ website, Page 35 (page 40 of the PDF). It's the sixth bullet down:

Single Action Revolver Exemption (http://ag.ca.gov/firearms/forms/pdf/Cfl2007.pdf)

The requirements for handguns to pass safety and functionality tests and to be listed in the

Department of Justice’s official list of handguns certified as safe for sale in California do not apply

to transactions involving the following:

• Single-action revolvers with at least a five-cartridge capacity, a barrel length of not less than three

inches, and either:

(a) were originally manufactured prior to 1900 and are curios or relics, as defined in Section 178.11

of Title 27 of the Code of Federal Regulations; or
(b) have an overall length measured parallel to the barrel of at least seven and one-halfinches when the handle, frame or receiver, and barrel are assembled. (Penal Code § 12133.)

Ducman
09-09-2012, 3:58 PM
$200 plus THREE copies of the gun to be tested plus ammo to do the testing. Internal paperwork costs and shipping.

do they get the guns back?

IrishPirate
09-09-2012, 4:00 PM
If they don't pay $200 by that date, then the DOJ can't pay the Alien Wizard that cast a spell keeping all rostered handguns "safe". Once the spell is broken, the streets will run red with the blood of innocent children as handguns morph into full auto killing machines and start randomly firing at anything that moves.

quiet-wyatt
09-09-2012, 4:26 PM
do they get the guns back?

No - I believe the guns are "destroyed" in testing...