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MMMMATT
09-07-2012, 11:58 AM
I just picked up my Glock 19 a few days ago, my first gun purchase ever. :p

I want to transport it properly and stay away from trouble ;)

I have been viewing threads on here over the last few days and am a little unsure on a few things...any clarification would be appreciated!

1) Can I transport my pistol in my vehicle at all times, or can it only be while I'm heading to/from a shooting range. What about if I'm just out running errands?

2) Having my pistol inside my vehicle inside the original (unlocked) Glock case with a cable lock through the pistol isn't good enough right? The case also needs to be locked?

3) Can I have loaded magazines inside the same locked case as the cable locked pistol?

Thanks for your help :) I know these topics have been discussed, probably hundreds of times on here. I've seen some posts, but some info seemed conflicting.

scglock
09-07-2012, 12:09 PM
Congrats! The 19 was my first handgun too! You can only transport it too and from the range. It needs to be in a locked container or in the trunk. You can have loaded magazines next to it but not in the magazine well.

jkody
09-07-2012, 12:10 PM
Keeping in your car all the time is a no go. I cant remember the exact wording of the law but I'm pretty sure there is something about it. But, the way I see it is, your always on the way to the range right😉. The gun has to be unloaded in a locked container and not a glove box. Get a lockbox, the cable lock thru the Glock container dont work. The magazines can be in the locked container with the gun but no loaded mag in the gun.

XDshooter
09-07-2012, 12:13 PM
jkode and scglock are incorrect.

Vehicle carry does not have the destination language in law.

That has to do with walking around.

In the CG Wiki
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting

XDRoX
09-07-2012, 12:17 PM
jkode and scglock are incorrect.

Vehicle carry does not have the destination language in law.

That has to do with walking around.

In the CG Wiki
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting

Yep.

ElDub1950
09-07-2012, 12:37 PM
jkode and scglock are incorrect.

Vehicle carry does not have the destination language in law.

That has to do with walking around.

In the CG Wiki
http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting

+2 The CG Wiki is your friend.

mygoogoo
09-07-2012, 12:38 PM
AFAIK you are allowed to carry in car as mentioned above;

1. Unloaded (weapon)
2. Secured in locked box
3. Can have loaded mags next to it in same lock box
4. Do not place in center console
5. Do not place in glove box

--- do not place any in-car safe in center console or glove box, and do not "fix" it to the chassis to avoid flaky interpretations of the law.

pictures below depict an in-car safe (http://center-of-mass.com/Store_InCarGunSafe.htm) that comes with a security cable to prevent theft in case you have to leave the weapon unattended in the vehicle.

http://center-of-mass.com/Images/CarSafe/LTop1911_5.jpg

http://center-of-mass.com/Images/CarSafe/CableInstall3.jpg

http://center-of-mass.com/Images/CarSafe/CableInstall4.jpg

http://center-of-mass.com/Images/CarSafe/CableInstallSafe2X.jpg

http://center-of-mass.com/Images/CarSafe/SafeHidden1.jpg

dshooter
09-07-2012, 12:50 PM
If you have a trunk that can't be accessed through the back seat = locked container. So no hatchback or suv. Keep it hidden and padded unless somebody breaks in or making hard turns and braking.

BrassCase
09-07-2012, 4:15 PM
If you have a trunk that can't be accessed through the back seat = locked container. So no hatchback or suv. Keep it hidden and padded unless somebody breaks in or making hard turns and braking.

I believe that is correct. It only needs to be in a locked box when in the cab of a pick-up or if the trunk of a car is accessible from the passenger area of a car.

Motor homes are different and I believe so are long haul type trucks where the drivers can sleep in the cab. I think they fall under the same rules as you would find in the home you live in.

phdo
09-07-2012, 4:23 PM
I just picked up my Glock 19 a few days ago, my first gun purchase ever. :p

I want to transport it properly and stay away from trouble ;)

I have been viewing threads on here over the last few days and am a little unsure on a few things...any clarification would be appreciated!

1) Can I transport my pistol in my vehicle at all times, or can it only be while I'm heading to/from a shooting range. What about if I'm just out running errands?

2) Having my pistol inside my vehicle inside the original (unlocked) Glock case with a cable lock through the pistol isn't good enough right? The case also needs to be locked?

3) Can I have loaded magazines inside the same locked case as the cable locked pistol?

Thanks for your help :) I know these topics have been discussed, probably hundreds of times on here. I've seen some posts, but some info seemed conflicting.

1. Incorrect, you can carry whenever and wherever you please.

2. It has to be in a locked container. Glove compartment doesn't count. Trunk will suffice.

3. Yes.

HighLander51
09-07-2012, 4:39 PM
I just picked up my Glock 19 a few days ago, my first gun purchase ever. :p

I want to transport it properly and stay away from trouble ;)

I have been viewing threads on here over the last few days and am a little unsure on a few things...any clarification would be appreciated!

1) Can I transport my pistol in my vehicle at all times, or can it only be while I'm heading to/from a shooting range. What about if I'm just out running errands?



Why don't you just apply for your carry permit?

Lead Waster
09-07-2012, 4:50 PM
Ugh, I hate to ask this but... what about cars that you CAN fold the seats down, but are NOT hatchbacks and that you can't access the trunk unless you get out and fold the seats down?

I'm guessing that if the fold down seats are not lockable, then that means the trunk is not a locked container?

Sorry for asking a convoluted question. Although I lock my range bag when I transport my gun to the range in the minivan, but for my sedan, I sometimes just put it in the trunk, relying on the trunk being a "locked case" BUT then it occurred to me that the seats can fold down and in theory you could access the trunk, albeit incredibly awkwardly.

den888
09-07-2012, 6:51 PM
Congrats!

MMMMATT
09-07-2012, 10:17 PM
Thanks for the clarification on the info guys.

I drive a 4 door Toyota Tacoma pickup truck, so I'll have it probably sitting on the floor in the back seats.

I bought a Pelican 1470 case today that comes with 2 built in key lockable latches.

Here is a picture of my setup. Glock 19, 2 loaded clips, 2 boxes of ammo stacked on top one another.

The cases 2 built in locks should be sufficient, right? And there is no need to additionally cable lock my pistol while inside the case right?

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=168535&d=1347081320

MMMMATT
09-07-2012, 10:22 PM
Why don't you just apply for your carry permit?

I'm a newbie with Firearms and have intentions to look into getting a permit to carry. But I live in Los Angeles County, and believe they don't approve permits...but it's something I need to look into.

BrassCase
09-07-2012, 10:29 PM
best advice about traveling with a gun, When in doubt, lock it. Try and get a CCW, Ha Ha what a joke ! Unless you are in a rural county, are a reserve LE, Judge or make large bank cash deposits on a regular basis it isn't going to happen.

bsg
09-07-2012, 10:58 PM
congrats on your G19.

DCF
09-07-2012, 11:46 PM
Looks like you need another pistol to fill up the empty space :)

Bullwhip55
09-08-2012, 9:12 AM
Separate the ammo from the weapon...!!! They cannot be "readily accessible". Put your weapon in a LOCKED CONTAINER and your ammo in a different LOCKED CONTAINER as far away from each other as permissible (trunk and back seat, pick-up cab and pick-up bed). You will not have a problem.

MMMMATT
09-08-2012, 9:30 AM
Separate the ammo from the weapon...!!! They cannot be "readily accessible". Put your weapon in a LOCKED CONTAINER and your ammo in a different LOCKED CONTAINER as far away from each other as permissible (trunk and back seat, pick-up cab and pick-up bed). You will not have a problem.

Did they make it a law?

Or is it more of a worry about a LEO's misinterpretation of a non-existent law, and taking the pistol?

The most recent information I've been able to find is from http://wiki.calgunsfoundation.org/Transporting#Ammunition_in_the_locked_container_is _legal

Quoted item 1.7 from the above link
" Ammunition in the locked container is legal

So long as the handgun is itself unloaded, ammunition in the same container does not make the handgun loaded.

Some gun owners may be more comfortable transporting ammunition in a separate container, or a separate compartment of the locked container, but this is not required by current law"

DCF
09-08-2012, 4:10 PM
MMMMATT, yes, the set up is legal. Reading and finding out the truth is fun.

jazman
09-08-2012, 5:50 PM
Separate the ammo from the weapon...!!! They cannot be "readily accessible". Put your weapon in a LOCKED CONTAINER and your ammo in a different LOCKED CONTAINER as far away from each other as permissible (trunk and back seat, pick-up cab and pick-up bed). You will not have a problem.

Incorrect. And congrats on your G19, you will enjoy it, excellent gun.

dc2integra
09-09-2012, 4:33 PM
Congrats on an excellent gun.I just carry my gun seperate from my ammo just in case you know I wouldn't want some ignorant cop giving me a hard time about it.