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willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 11:13 AM
Of your choice, what would it be and why? You only get to pick one and it can't be an ar/ak pistol. It can be a gun you have or wish you had:D

Something that will be in a holster on your belt/vest or strapped to your leg.

I would take a full sized Cz 75b sp-01 in 40 cal. Its a proven design that is both accurate and reliable. I would have a light and laser combo, and some sweet night sights. All black on black.

I think there are a lot of handguns that are excellent choices for combat. Remember this will be a sidearm not your primary gun or rifle, but you will have to trust your life with it.

So let's see what your combat pistol of choice is!!

ElvenSoul
09-04-2012, 11:14 AM
CZ 75 Phantom (one that has had a trigger job)

CK_32
09-04-2012, 11:17 AM
Bone stock Glock 17 with night sights.

And just tell me where to shoot.

Dutch Henry
09-04-2012, 11:18 AM
SIG P228 in 9mm.

9mm ammo is used by NATO and if needed it would be available more than other calibers.

Montu
09-04-2012, 11:19 AM
M&P 45 Night sights and x400

but what do I know.

JackRydden224
09-04-2012, 11:20 AM
If I'm going in combat with the military then it's the 1911 or the 92. I'm gonna need something fairly standardized so if I need parts or ammo I can find them easily.

psango
09-04-2012, 11:29 AM
Sig P228 or M11 pistol or Beretta 92 or M9 with 124g 9mm ball ammo, widely available ammo and reliable firearms

willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 11:29 AM
If I'm going in combat with the military then it's the 1911 or the 92. I'm gonna need something fairly standardized so if I need parts or ammo I can find them easily.

True, but if this was more of a fantasy and you have all the spare parts/springs to keep your gun going for a long time, what would it be? Nothing wrong with the 92 for combat imo.

23 Blast
09-04-2012, 11:30 AM
Of the guns I currently own, probably either the CZ SP-01 or the CZ P-01. I have gobs of magazines (the P-01 can use the full size SP-01 mags). But I'd probably give the nod to the P-01. Lighter, handier, and vetted by NATO after having passed a bunch of torture tests. But the SP-01 might be useful as a tent stake driver, a hammer for splitting logs, a kneecap breaker for prisoner "interrogations," a walnut smasher, a court gavel, or a boat anchor, as needed.

scglock
09-04-2012, 11:32 AM
glock 17 with anything other than factory plastic sights

willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 11:33 AM
I thought about my p01 too, it would be my second choice for sure.

Socal858
09-04-2012, 11:34 AM
either my glock 17 or 19. they'll eat anything, fit my tlr1, and fit my light bearing holsters.

though i am very infatuated with the sweet green/yellow trijicons on my 19

MaHoTex
09-04-2012, 11:35 AM
ABG (Anything But Glock)

:)

After much considerations, I would roll with a Hi-Point CF-380. Yep, that is the one.

acolytes
09-04-2012, 11:38 AM
My Glock, and I am no Glock fan boy. I have many other guns that I like shooting more.

luckystrike
09-04-2012, 11:39 AM
Mc operator, maybe the mk23 if I prove that it's a better fit for me after I test it.

madstyle1
09-04-2012, 11:40 AM
I would choose Springfield 1911 loaded A-1 since I'm still a novice it will probably help me on my accuracy. Plus my 9mm might not have the stopping power that I would need ...

Squid
09-04-2012, 11:41 AM
I hear lotta SWAT use G35, but it isn't a gun that is any harder to master...probably easier.

I guess I'd put a light under it and tungsten rod.


Naw, I'd want a FN 5.7.....because it is the latest mil-combat gun.

But depending on not-mentioned-restrictions/conditions, I might go for Kel-Tec 30rd .22mag....like if 'combat' was against un-armored enemy at longer pistol range and carrying a lot of rds was important.

Lifeon2whls
09-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Glock 17.

kentactic
09-04-2012, 11:41 AM
Bone stock glock 17 or 22 except glock factory night sights and a wide frame model mag release.

ranger341
09-04-2012, 11:53 AM
Tokarev. Punch through just about anything. Since this isn't a primary, just reload a couple 200-300 yourself and you'll be set.

JackRydden224
09-04-2012, 11:57 AM
True, but if this was more of a fantasy and you have all the spare parts/springs to keep your gun going for a long time, what would it be? Nothing wrong with the 92 for combat imo.

Ah, in that case it would be my Steyr M9-A1. It's light and extremely reliable. It also has a light rail for accessories. The trapezoid sights would get me quick target acquisition. I think there are 17rd magazines as well.

For someone who is not exactly a sharp shooter like myself I would need all the rounds and aides to help me out.

AeroEngi
09-04-2012, 11:57 AM
My Sig P220 or an FN 57 with standard cap mags.

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Lost-trails
09-04-2012, 11:59 AM
Sig p226 or p228 in 9mm.

INFAMOUS762X39
09-04-2012, 11:59 AM
Glock 18.

Q619
09-04-2012, 12:00 PM
Easy, my HK P30 9mm. Surgically accurate and runs anything I put in it 100%

SilverTauron
09-04-2012, 12:04 PM
1911. If I'm drawing a pistol in combat it means two things:someone who wants to hurt me is way, way too close-and the only tools available to remind them of a lesson in personal space is a pistol and my knife. Given those criterion, I want them to stop in their tracks, not kill me with 10 holes through their guts.

P220
09-04-2012, 12:13 PM
a glock 17

mbt
09-04-2012, 12:13 PM
U don't go into a rifle fight with a hg.

But if I had to choose:
Pistol AK47.

POLICESTATE
09-04-2012, 12:16 PM
My Kimber 1911, why? one because I shoot very well with it, and two because it's a 1911 :D

scarville
09-04-2012, 12:16 PM
Phaser. -- One shot vaporization

opie4386
09-04-2012, 12:18 PM
My springfield mil-spec. Because 230 is more than 124. And its what i shoot best

noob_tube
09-04-2012, 12:18 PM
Glock 17 or 21 :D

.45 ftw!
09-04-2012, 12:20 PM
My Glock 21

safewaysecurity
09-04-2012, 12:20 PM
Glock 17

SouthCoastTargets
09-04-2012, 12:22 PM
FN 5.7 for the win,

excellent range, good stopping power, high capacity, low recoil........ handgun perfection really, thats why they fetch such a high price

Marthor
09-04-2012, 12:26 PM
My "go to" gun seems to be my Beretta Px4 Storm 45acp.

surplus-addict
09-04-2012, 12:28 PM
Almost the same as you: CZ-75BD, 15 magazines, and a replacement small parts kit. Also, with that, I would take 500 rounds of Hornady Critical Duty 124Gr. ammo.

killathrilla
09-04-2012, 12:28 PM
...

Bobby Ricigliano
09-04-2012, 12:32 PM
Of your choice, what would it be and why? You only get to pick one and it can't be an ar/ak pistol. It can be a gun you have or wish you had:D

Something that will be in a holster on your belt/vest or strapped to your leg.

I would take a full sized Cz 75b sp-01 in 40 cal. Its a proven design that is both accurate and reliable. I would have a light and laser combo, and some sweet night sights. All black on black.

I think there are a lot of handguns that are excellent choices for combat. Remember this will be a sidearm not your primary gun or rifle, but you will have to trust your life with it.

So let's see what your combat pistol of choice is!!

It doesn't really matter because you are going to get waxed by somebody with a rifle before you ever get close enough to use it.

Ventura_Yak'r
09-04-2012, 12:43 PM
+1 CZ SP01 9mm

jkody
09-04-2012, 12:58 PM
Glock 19 if I ran out of ammo for the AR.

Press Check
09-04-2012, 1:19 PM
FN 5.7 for the win,

excellent range, good stopping power, high capacity, low recoil........ handgun perfection really, thats why they fetch such a high price

1911 fanatic, but I'd have to go with the FN 5.7 as well. Since it's debut, I've always thought the military should adopt this sidearm.

patrickstarfish
09-04-2012, 1:20 PM
M&P 9mm are not combat ready? No love?

Chief-7700
09-04-2012, 1:23 PM
The one that has been doing the job since 1911.

huckberry668
09-04-2012, 1:30 PM
P226. SEALs can use anything and they chose p226. Good enough for me.

Personally i prefer the 45acp version p220.

tbc
09-04-2012, 1:35 PM
I would grab any of my HKs.

gti_20ae
09-04-2012, 1:41 PM
If only 1 side arm, then FN 5.7 with a lot of ammos.

Striker
09-04-2012, 1:42 PM
Easy day. As Ken Hackathorn said, "it's a 9mm Glock world", so Glock 17/19. They are durable and reliable; and they're accurate enough for most handgun uses. Just as important is abundance of spare parts available for a Glock and the availability of 9mm ammo around the world.

LAKings22
09-04-2012, 1:43 PM
Glock 19

Spdjunkie
09-04-2012, 1:44 PM
"My" Vote:

Glock 17 & 19; Fixed Metal Sights, & Plenty of OE Std. Mags.

edit to add: If I had to conceal: Easy choice = Glock 19

DRAB_81
09-04-2012, 1:52 PM
My GEN 4 G17.

ZombieTactics
09-04-2012, 1:52 PM
There are guns I like better for various reasons, and for various occasions. The Ruger SR9c is just about as perfect (for me) as a CCW could get. Get rid of eth manual safety (I've considered pinning it disengaged) and it would be perfect, IMHO.

But combat is a different animal altogether: Glock17, milled RMR, suppressor sights, many standard mags and at least 2-3 happy sticks.

Rusled
09-04-2012, 1:55 PM
1911 in 45.
There was a reason this sidearm was issued, it will knock any person down when hit, be they in armor protective gear or wacked out on drugs .
If the Marines Corps decided to go back to it, thats good enough for me....

Marthor
09-04-2012, 2:13 PM
1911 in 45.
There was a reason this sidearm was issued, it will knock any person down when hit, be they in armor protective gear or wacked out on drugs .


The actual "knockdown" of a 230 grain 45 is about the same as an 80mph fastball. An 80mph fastball usually won't knock people down. If they are wearing protective armor, almost won't notice it like a guy in football pads being hit by a fastball.

Jimmy310
09-04-2012, 2:17 PM
Glock 31 with trijicon nightsights and 3.5 trigger connector.

Bug Splat
09-04-2012, 2:26 PM
My Glock 17 with Trijicon night sights no question about it.

Slim///
09-04-2012, 2:28 PM
My hk usp of course!

Renaissance Redneck
09-04-2012, 2:31 PM
I would take my "old" model (Model 'B') Coonan .357 Magnum 1911-style handgun (if I had to take a gun I already own). I would take the "new" model if I could.

http://i45.tinypic.com/1zwne6p.jpg

phdo
09-04-2012, 2:33 PM
Glock 23

AfghanVetOrcutt
09-04-2012, 2:35 PM
Whatever is in my hand that will do it's job. I'm not picky when it comes to life or death as long as it does what it's intended to do.

In my case that would be my HK USP .40S&W

Moonshine
09-04-2012, 2:38 PM
Sig pro 2022 in .40 S&W because I have the most training and practice with it.

Whatisthis?
09-04-2012, 2:40 PM
But combat is a different animal altogether: Glock17, milled RMR, suppressor sights, many standard mags and at least 2-3 happy sticks.

Just about the perfect choice. The milled RMR with suppressor sights is what I would be doing with whatever sidearm I chose. I actually want a G19 with that just for the hell of it.

lilro
09-04-2012, 2:52 PM
Springfield XD9. Give me 11 days notice and it would be something else. Stupid state law.

I'd probably go with a Glock 17 w/ night sights just because of the vast availability of parts.

Mikeb
09-04-2012, 3:13 PM
it doesn't matter... handguns in combat are only to encourage your troops.

USAbodypilot
09-04-2012, 3:18 PM
After much considerations, I would roll with a Hi-Point CF-380. Yep, that is the one.

Nooooooooo really?

Am I the dummy who fell for the troll?


Mine would is the Sig P229R in 9mm. Solid piece, not too heavy but lots of rounds in each double stack mag. 9mm will do for me, yes there is a lot bigger (and I own/shoot a few including 45 and 10mm) but I like the balance of capacity while retaining a nice working size. Love Sigs too but that's another story.

USAbodypilot
09-04-2012, 3:19 PM
it doesn't matter... handguns in combat are only to encourage your troops.

Word. When an officer has to pull out his weapon it's time to start praying.

InGrAM
09-04-2012, 3:32 PM
A higher tier 1911. DW, Les Baer, Ed Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, etc...

Oceanbob
09-04-2012, 3:37 PM
I'am really liking my Gen4 Glock 21.....so that would work.

Second choice my Glock 17

Plisk
09-04-2012, 3:38 PM
I'd take something that works.

patrickstarfish
09-04-2012, 3:46 PM
it doesn't matter... handguns in combat are only to encourage your troops.

Good point. A secondary weapon seems unmatched against AKs, MGs... especially not in a CQB. I can only imagine, shooting a pistol in a firefight, might as well pack a 22LR, or a knife:D

nothinghere2c
09-04-2012, 3:54 PM
Glock 18.

indeed if we're talking fantasy. Otherwise I'll jump on the glock 17 train.

Manolito
09-04-2012, 4:00 PM
I would leave the pistol and its ammunition behind and carry more ammunition for my rifle.

zfields
09-04-2012, 4:06 PM
It doesn't really matter because you are going to get waxed by somebody with a rifle before you ever get close enough to use it.

This.

Renaissance Redneck
09-04-2012, 4:10 PM
I can only imagine, shooting a pistol in a firefight

My son (USMC) is one of the very few (probably) who actually has. They were patrolling (mounted) in Iraq, and he was on the .50. There were a bunch of people (civilians) around when they began to take fire; a dude on a motorcycle (one of the ambushers) slung his AK with the intention of hauling @$$ out of there. My son engaged him with his Beretta M9 from the turret position; Marines 1, Al Quaida 0. (I got this story confirmed by him, and some of his buddies who also were there during the "incident").

polo.45
09-04-2012, 4:15 PM
1911 .45

becxltoo984
09-04-2012, 4:17 PM
My Lorcin L380 .....thats how i roll....;)

Tank 57
09-04-2012, 4:18 PM
My son (USMC) is one of the very few (probably) who actually has. They were patrolling (mounted) in Iraq, and he was on the .50. There were a bunch of people (civilians) around when they began to take fire; a dude on a motorcycle (one of the ambushers) slung his AK with the intention of hauling @$$ out of there. My son engaged him with his Beretta M9 from the turret position; Marines 1, Al Quaida 0. (I got this story confirmed by him, and some of his buddies who also were there during the "incident").


Kudos to your son.And my thanks.

My choice,my SIG P220 in .45ACP.I shoot it well,it's reliable,it's a .45 and I have absolute confidence in it.

Bug Splat
09-04-2012, 4:21 PM
Good point. A secondary weapon seems unmatched against AKs, MGs... especially not in a CQB. I can only imagine, shooting a pistol in a firefight, might as well pack a 22LR, or a knife:D

Friend of mine who came back from Afgan said his AR jammed in the middle of a close street fight and he pulled his M9 and shot a guy 3 times in the chest from 5 yards. The guy jumped back into the alley and took off running. He was relieved the guy gave up and left the fight but was very uneasy that 3 shots to the chest did nothing to the guy. Had he wanted, he could have jumped back in with his AK and killed my buddy or set off a bomb. He said the AR just opens them up and they fall fast, pistols are just noise poppers in a fight with rifles. Yes a pistol did save his life and is a worthy tool to have but its not a game winner.

BigRobb
09-04-2012, 4:23 PM
Sig pro 2022 in .40 S&W because I have the most training and practice with it.

Same here :)

Of course that is the backup to my AR-15 which I have even more training with lol

Dokbrick
09-04-2012, 4:25 PM
My USP 9mm loaded with Federal HST 147gr. +P :)

AngelZ3R0
09-04-2012, 4:29 PM
+1 XD-9 with normal capacity mags

Lead Waster
09-04-2012, 4:30 PM
it doesn't matter... handguns in combat are only to encourage your troops.

Read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_C._York

Particularly this part;


"During the assault, six German soldiers in a trench near York charged him with fixed bayonets. York had fired all the rounds in his M1917 Enfield rifle,but drew his .45 Colt automatic pistol and shot all six soldiers before they could reach him."


Note that he shot 6 soldiers with his 7 round 1911. Of course, this is Sgt York we're talking about here!

Ron-Solo
09-04-2012, 4:32 PM
M&P 9 with my 17 rd mags or my 92f with 15 rd mags

willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 4:34 PM
Almost the same as you: CZ-75BD, 15 magazines, and a replacement small parts kit. Also, with that, I would take 500 rounds of Hornady Critical Duty 124Gr. ammo.

I use the critical duty too. Its some good stuff, hornady CD + my czp01=great home defence:D

And people I stated above, this is not your primary gun its your side arm. If you wouldn't take a sidearm into battle if you had the chance too then all the power to you.. this is a hypothetical question " obviously" too btw..if you had too

So don't get all serious like "I'll take you out with my ak the min you take a step near me and be super dead.":p

sjm9877
09-04-2012, 4:42 PM
P226 9mm IMHO there in nothing better.

NYT
09-04-2012, 4:42 PM
glock 17 any one saying something else is either dreaming or a hater.

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Lead Waster
09-04-2012, 4:45 PM
Anyone read "Blackhawk Down?" I'm sure we've all seem the movie!

I read the book by Michael Durant, the downed and then captured pilot. In the book he mentions that he was armed with an MP5, and then later one of the Delta guys handed him one or two M4s or M16 (I can't remember which). Anyway, at some point both the M4s and the MP5 are empty and he's thinking how F'ed he is, and how he lamented the fact that the Blackhawk's two miniguns with something like 6000 rounds were completely useless without the engine running. So he sat there as the mob swarmed over him and basically beat the living crap out of him. Only later did he realize that he had an M9 strapped to his leg with probably 60 rounds in it.

He had completely forgotten about it! But also he said that he thinks that if he had pulled it on the mob as they swarmed over the Delta's bodies they would surely have killed him outright. Since he seemed unarmed, they decided to beat him. Had he been shooting at them, they'd have probably just shot him.

No point to the story other than it's an interesting situation where a guy's carbines/rifles and sub machine gun ran out, and he was down to his pistol as his only defense. though against a mob he did the right thing because he's at home now instead of being dragged in the streets.

willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 4:46 PM
Read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_C._York

Particularly this part;


"During the assault, six German soldiers in a trench near York charged him with fixed bayonets. York had fired all the rounds in his M1917 Enfield rifle,but drew his .45 Colt automatic pistol and shot all six soldiers before they could reach him."


Note that he shot 6 soldiers with his 7 round 1911. Of course, this is Sgt York we're talking about here!

Good thing he had his 45 on him, and good thing he knew his guns well to take care of the job. He knew his primary was out of ammo and executed a switch too his secondary before he was shanked to death by bayonets. Im sure there are a ton of people that couldent do this in the heat of battle, it seems ease to a lot of people here but for some avrage joe thats never handled a gun other than a bb gun or target 22 it my not seem so secound nature. Thats why you have a backup and that's why you train with your both your weapons.

famas619
09-04-2012, 4:46 PM
My Glock 17 9mm.

Legasat
09-04-2012, 4:49 PM
M&P .45 (since it holds two more rounds than my 1911), or my plasma pistol in the 40W range ;)

timmyb21
09-04-2012, 4:49 PM
This might be an insult to my 1911s but my m&p 9 would be the go to.

CK_32
09-04-2012, 4:50 PM
Anyone read "Blackhawk Down?" I'm sure we've all seem the movie!

I read the book by Michael Durant, the downed and then captured pilot. In the book he mentions that he was armed with an MP5, and then later one of the Delta guys handed him one or two M4s or M16 (I can't remember which). Anyway, at some point both the M4s and the MP5 are empty and he's thinking how F'ed he is, and how he lamented the fact that the Blackhawk's two miniguns with something like 6000 rounds were completely useless without the engine running. So he sat there as the mob swarmed over him and basically beat the living crap out of him. Only later did he realize that he had an M9 strapped to his leg with probably 60 rounds in it.

He had completely forgotten about it! But also he said that he thinks that if he had pulled it on the mob as they swarmed over the Delta's bodies they would surely have killed him outright. Since he seemed unarmed, they decided to beat him. Had he been shooting at them, they'd have probably just shot him.

No point to the story other than it's an interesting situation where a guy's carbines/rifles and sub machine gun ran out, and he was down to his pistol as his only defense. though against a mob he did the right thing because he's at home now instead of being dragged in the streets.

60 rounds..? That's a he'll of a lot of ammo for a M9 on a pilot let alone on his person with out an assault pack.. Sounds like a bit of exaduarsrion but I've never seen combat so I couldn't really speak on that factually.

And all I would have needed was 1 in that situation.

willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 4:55 PM
Anyone read "Blackhawk Down?" I'm sure we've all seem the movie!

I read the book by Michael Durant, the downed and then captured pilot. In the book he mentions that he was armed with an MP5, and then later one of the Delta guys handed him one or two M4s or M16 (I can't remember which). Anyway, at some point both the M4s and the MP5 are empty and he's thinking how F'ed he is, and how he lamented the fact that the Blackhawk's two miniguns with something like 6000 rounds were completely useless without the engine running. So he sat there as the mob swarmed over him and basically beat the living crap out of him. Only later did he realize that he had an M9 strapped to his leg with probably 60 rounds in it.

He had completely forgotten about it! But also he said that he thinks that if he had pulled it on the mob as they swarmed over the Delta's bodies they would surely have killed him outright. Since he seemed unarmed, they decided to beat him. Had he been shooting at them, they'd have probably just shot him.

No point to the story other than it's an interesting situation where a guy's carbines/rifles and sub machine gun ran out, and he was down to his pistol as his only defense. though against a mob he did the right thing because he's at home now instead of being dragged in the streets.

They wouldn't of taken me alive!.. jk ya that's one time he was better off. But what if he was somewhere else and he killed everyone he needed to escape except one person but his primary was done?? Oh wait what's this...a gun on my hip, no way I can probably do this... :43: triple tap.

andrewj
09-04-2012, 5:03 PM
Probably a Glock 17.

If I wanted a bigger round, I'd go with a Glock 21SF... or maybe an FNP45 Tactical.

willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 5:09 PM
Friend of mine who came back from Afgan said his AR jammed in the middle of a close street fight and he pulled his M9 and shot a guy 3 times in the chest from 5 yards. The guy jumped back into the alley and took off running. He was relieved the guy gave up and left the fight but was very uneasy that 3 shots to the chest did nothing to the guy. Had he wanted, he could have jumped back in with his AK and killed my buddy or set off a bomb. He said the AR just opens them up and they fall fast, pistols are just noise poppers in a fight with rifles. Yes a pistol did save his life and is a worthy tool to have but its not a game winner.

He should of had some hornady critical defence... I can make some big holes with my 9mm:D

And I thank him for what he did...or still does?

TATER313
09-04-2012, 5:10 PM
My CZ 75b. will never let me down

scoot64
09-04-2012, 5:16 PM
XD .45

ramzar
09-04-2012, 5:21 PM
FN 5.7 Pistol (night sights + X300) with 3+ of 20-round mags and SS190 AP ammo.

Mikeb
09-04-2012, 5:24 PM
Read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alvin_C._York

Particularly this part;


"During the assault, six German soldiers in a trench near York charged him with fixed bayonets. York had fired all the rounds in his M1917 Enfield rifle,but drew his .45 Colt automatic pistol and shot all six soldiers before they could reach him."


Note that he shot 6 soldiers with his 7 round 1911. Of course, this is Sgt York we're talking about here!

Yes there is always an exception to the rule. The reports I have read from WW1 seemed to state the English officers drew their side arms to encourage their men to "go over the top" into German machinegun fire. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
But I will say that Alvin York is a true American hero. I think the Germans made him mad... good thing he was a peaceful man.
take care
Mike

Cyc Wid It
09-04-2012, 5:50 PM
glock 17 any one saying something else is either dreaming or a hater.

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Or people downrange (not me) who have access to any sidearm they want but choose otherwise?

I'll go with a 1911 or HK45.

BrassCase
09-04-2012, 5:53 PM
1st choice: Beretta PX4 40 cal (hey, you're in combat and should keep your carry weight low).
2nd choice: Sig 226 9 mm (because as pointed out above, 9 mm is NATO standard ammo)

fullrearview
09-04-2012, 5:54 PM
P226r.

I wont need extra parts.

nothing4u
09-04-2012, 6:00 PM
USP40, it eats everything I feed it, even reloads that G22 and P226 won't digest.

Lead Waster
09-04-2012, 6:27 PM
60 rounds..? That's a he'll of a lot of ammo for a M9 on a pilot let alone on his person with out an assault pack.. Sounds like a bit of exaduarsrion but I've never seen combat so I couldn't really speak on that factually.

And all I would have needed was 1 in that situation.

OK, maybe I went over the top, but then say ... 30 rounds. He was pretty liberal with the use of the MP5 ammo.

I looked it up and couldn't find any round count so it must just be me making it up. (I carry 60 rounds when I shoot USPSA matches and it's 6 10 rounds magazines, so you are right, 60, even in 15 rounders is probably ridiculous for a piliot).

Oh, it was CAR-15's that the crews had, not M4s or M16s I think. Anyway, in his book, he says that when his MP5 ran dry, he started shooting the CAR and was thinking "WTF! Why don't we all carry these!". The CARs were actually in the Blackhawk as the crew's weapons, but the pilot and copilot had MP5s and everyone had M9's.

The sad thing about the Miniguns on board the Blackhawk is that once the engine died, the guns were useless, with 6000 rounds of useless ammo. If they were M60s (or whatever) then the two MOH Deltas that were defending the crash site might have held out, but they ran out of ammo and were overwhelmed. He also mentions that it's most likely that the crew manning the door guns were actually killed by the guns as they swung in during the crash (not from being shot, but from the weight of them swinging around and smashing their ribs).

Totally off the thread topic, but read "In the Company of Heroes" by Michael Durant to get his perspective, which is not in "Blackhawk Down". It includes his perspective of the crash, the defense of it and his ensuing captivity. Much respect to him, he's a real survivor.

hyeg35
09-04-2012, 6:32 PM
Any one of these babies.

HK USPc 9mm
Glock 19
Glock 22
Sig Sauer P226 Elite Dark

Shenaniguns
09-04-2012, 7:14 PM
Gen 4 Glock 17 or 21

Bug Splat
09-04-2012, 7:14 PM
He should of had some hornady critical defence... I can make some big holes with my 9mm:D

And I thank him for what he did...or still does?

He wishes they had anything other that fmj. CD would have been nice.

He is back home after 2 tours but is not the same sadly. Lot of guilt for making it home when his buddies did not :(

dc2integra
09-04-2012, 7:19 PM
The only handgun I have my trusty hk p2000sk chambered in 9mm.

CapnHawk
09-04-2012, 7:24 PM
The one that has been doing the job since 1911.

Let's hear an "AMEN" to that!

lt05deluxe
09-04-2012, 7:29 PM
Hk USP40. Hasn't failed me yet.

bsg
09-04-2012, 7:34 PM
w german P226.

far from tactical
09-04-2012, 7:41 PM
My glock 19 with n/s and my tlr 1s

Dhena81
09-04-2012, 7:42 PM
Since I don't live in a fantasy world

Glock 17

:grouphug:

POINTMANDDT
09-04-2012, 7:49 PM
If modern day ammo such as +p jacketed hollow point was okay. I would shoot take the GLOCK 17 or Glock19. If I had to use FMJ I would say the GLOCK 22 or 21.

wurger
09-04-2012, 7:57 PM
HK USP .45.

Between thousands of rounds through my real USP, and many BB's through my airsoft USP, I don't have to think about operating the weapon. Complete muscle memory.

paulxpowers
09-04-2012, 8:00 PM
My Les Baer 1911

jenericsig
09-04-2012, 8:04 PM
Sig P226 9mm W. Germany w/ pre-ban magazines.

racky
09-04-2012, 8:07 PM
a m9 because that's what i'd get issued. otherwise i'd use my USP

mysak
09-04-2012, 8:12 PM
probably my M&P because I don't want to scratch my 1911s up. . .

XVIga_Rob
09-04-2012, 8:16 PM
My 1911.

If, I were to need more ammo. I'd just use the dead enemy gun & ammo, until I can aquire more .45 ACP.

UndercoverPaisa
09-04-2012, 8:18 PM
EAA witness in .38 super with 18 round mags.

Euphoria526
09-04-2012, 8:19 PM
I'd grab either of my 2 handguns
1st my CZ p01, I have the most experience with it, ammo is plentiful, and it can take the NATO Rounds.

2nd would be CZ SA in 40. I've shot consecutive targets at pretty damn good distances. Decent caliber And CZ quality. Hahah

Sac-AR15
09-04-2012, 8:24 PM
I would grab my SS TRP 1911 for my right hand and my Sig Scorpion for my left.

:2guns::gunsmilie:

chozenfew805
09-04-2012, 8:29 PM
Sig P226 Tactical Operations chambered in 9mm with Anti-Komifornia 20rd mags:43:

willerfortheworld
09-04-2012, 8:30 PM
Its neat to see what you Guys and gals would trust your lives with. Some top quality choices out there for sure. More 1911's out there ready for combat then I thought, that's good to know, and very cool.

Lc17smp
09-04-2012, 8:37 PM
I'd consider my S&W 500. Everyone I hit would die and everyone else near would run. Glocks would melt if too near me :43:

I'd likely pull the 228 though.

trew10
09-04-2012, 8:42 PM
My trusty ruger p95. Not too heavy can get a 30 round mag.

trew10
09-04-2012, 8:43 PM
Yes I said 30 rounds google it.

Sanderhawk
09-04-2012, 8:44 PM
XD45 with 5in barrel and night sites. Accurate as all hell.

gundad
09-04-2012, 8:49 PM
Da forty five longslide wid da lazer sighting

Josh3239
09-04-2012, 8:52 PM
1911. Best for combat? Maybe, maybe not. But I shoot it best and hitting the target with what maybe not the best, is better than missing with the best.

Josh.Ollar
09-04-2012, 9:12 PM
glock .40
glock sells a massive amount of them every year making it ez to find parts holsters ect. they have no problem with dirty, old or cheap ammo and are combat ready. they work every time right out of the box i dont beleave in a gun that needs a break in period no matter how expanive the price tag is

just4fun63
09-04-2012, 9:29 PM
Sig P226r with TLR-1 and extended mags. Basically what I cary everyday except in 9mm

Sent from my DROID3 using Tapatalk 2

oppe4021
09-04-2012, 9:30 PM
P226. SEALs can use anything and they chose p226. Good enough for me.

P226 9mm IMHO there in nothing better.

My choice and thoughts exactly!

JTROKS
09-04-2012, 9:38 PM
My Sig 1911 TTT as long as I get to pick one long gun.

The Right to Bear Arms
09-04-2012, 9:50 PM
Glock 23, with Meprolights. 6-12 high cap mags from the G22. ( CA legalities suspended for this scenario. )

We're talking about combat and not a popularity contest.

JOE MACK
09-04-2012, 10:09 PM
If I had to transition from my M-4, it'd be for a SA XD 5-inch tactical in 9mm shooting Corbon DPX or Hornady Critical Duty. If hardball was the rule, same gun in .45ACP. I'd use a thigh holster with a couple extra mags.

oddjob
09-04-2012, 10:17 PM
Heine PDP 1911 .45 acp.

WETP
09-04-2012, 10:20 PM
My Choice Glock 35. If I have to follow NATO rules Glock 21

Krill
09-04-2012, 10:21 PM
XD40.

RekEnhanced
09-04-2012, 10:26 PM
1911 or HK USP .45

marathonman
09-04-2012, 10:28 PM
My 629 .44 magnum. This way I can keep the brass and save uncle Sam a few bucks by reloading.

AIMSMALL
09-04-2012, 10:49 PM
Ok, I'll play.

Glock 17, it just works good although I do have nicer guns I like better the glock would be a practical choice since it's a common gun, light weight, uses the smaller lighter weight 9mm vs the heavier and larger .45 and it holds 17 rounds per mag.

In the same amount of space I would be able to carry 7x17=119 rounds of 9mm jacketed ball = 3 lbs vs 7x13=91 rounds of .45 jacketed ball = 4.3 lbs. Also, after firing 13 rounds .45's need a mag change, the 9mm still has 4 more to go before reloading. Keep in mind this comparison is for Glock 21 vs Glock 17. 9mm luger cartridge weight calculated at 11.6 g while .45ACP calculated at 21.45 g.

How about adding a poll?

CGT80
09-04-2012, 11:23 PM
XD 40 service model with all the upgrades I have on mine, minus the 9mm conversion barrel. With 30k rounds through mine, it fits like a glove and is what I know. I could probably take it apart and put it back together blind folded. I can work the gun without looking at it. I can't say the same for any other platform, although they may be just as good. It is also supposedly good enough for the Croatian army.

BradleyAbrams
09-04-2012, 11:33 PM
For me, the Browning Hi-Power 9mm gets The Call.


That's THE ONE 9mm AutoLoader which has seen more Real Life Battlefield Action around the World over the Past 80 YEARS than any of the other 9mm pistols previously mentioned here; COMBINED.


Leave the Tupperware at home with the women; Aluminum is for sissies and DA is for DORKS who get confused by SA -

BHP Gunners don't need Funky Trigger Safeties or Ghey De-Cock-ers...


Brain-engaged is "The Safety"...



The ULTIMATE DESIGN by the Ultimate Firearm Prophet

THE BROWNING HI-POWER 9mm



Bloodline Annoints It


History Proclaims It..


Proven Battle Record Recommends It..


Success DEPENDS on It.


Common Sense DEMANDS IT..!




The BROWNING HI POWER

:King:



What All those other 9mm pistols Wanna be when they Grow Up.. :devil2:








:D :D :D

-

fal_762x51
09-05-2012, 12:08 AM
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-FLfs0EGFT1U/TbHuH94SrzI/AAAAAAAAAmk/mZsMBm3A8Fc/s1600/Zorg-1.jpg

BAM!

Seriously, a Glock 17. Savaging of parts and ammo would be easier to come by.

Joejitsu
09-05-2012, 12:48 AM
Definitely a Glock 7. It's made in Germany, constructed entirely of porcelain, is capable of passing through airport metal detectors completely unnoticed. The only downside to this amazing weapon is the price, which is quite expensive. The real MSRP is unknown, but experts say that they cost more than the Dulles International Airport Police Chief makes in a month.

Joe

mille806
09-05-2012, 1:27 AM
My canadian built special edition hi capacity 1911 with the standard mags 15 rounds of 45ACP rock n roll

Lugiahua
09-05-2012, 1:30 AM
My XD, because I trained with it.
Other striker fired weapon is good alt option.

But as mentioned before, handgun in combat is something:
"You don't need it often, but when you need it, you really need it."

pinoy916
09-05-2012, 2:08 PM
+1 CZ SP 01with my 16rd rebuilds.
XDM 9 in 5 or 5.25"

its what i trust...accurate... reliable... not fte or ftf

Echidin
09-05-2012, 2:15 PM
FN 5.7 or my SW1911.

1911Operator
09-05-2012, 2:45 PM
Glock 19 or 17

willerfortheworld
09-05-2012, 4:25 PM
A lot of glocksters out there, and for good reason.. Sig, Cz, bhp, 1911, hk, fnh and xd seems to be the choice for combat.. a lot more people would take a 9mm into battle then I thought, even when given other choices. Also for good reasons "better chance of finding 9mm when your empty."

:2guns:

fullspeed1
09-05-2012, 4:55 PM
In all it's simplicity.....

http://i488.photobucket.com/albums/rr250/fullspeed1/fd1f34b7.jpg

fullspeed1
09-05-2012, 4:58 PM
For me, the Browning Hi-Power 9mm gets The Call.


That's THE ONE 9mm AutoLoader which has seen more Real Life Battlefield Action around the World over the Past 80 YEARS than any of the other 9mm pistols previously mentioned here; COMBINED.


Leave the Tupperware at home with the women; Aluminum is for sissies and DA is for DORKS who get confused by SA -

BHP Gunners don't need Funky Trigger Safeties or Ghey De-Cock-ers...


Brain-engaged is "The Safety"...



The ULTIMATE DESIGN by the Ultimate Firearm Prophet

THE BROWNING HI-POWER 9mm



Bloodline Annoints It


History Proclaims It..


Proven Battle Record Recommends It..


Success DEPENDS on It.


Common Sense DEMANDS IT..!




The BROWNING HI POWER

:King:



What All those other 9mm pistols Wanna be when they Grow Up.. :devil2:








:D :D :D

-

This is awesome!!!

Cyc Wid It
09-05-2012, 5:23 PM
My choice and thoughts exactly!

Actually they choose other guns too...

Cyc Wid It
09-05-2012, 5:24 PM
P226. SEALs can use anything and they chose p226. Good enough for me.

Personally i prefer the 45acp version p220.

Not really true...

pisarski
09-05-2012, 5:36 PM
my Colt xse 1911 gov would trust it with my life

Sniper3142
09-05-2012, 5:39 PM
While I dearly love the 1911, for a combat situation where I need to totally rely on the handgun...

HK45 Tactical (with Night Sights) would be my first choice.

http://sgcusa.com/images/supporting_images_large/HK45_Barrel_Kit_Threaded_B.jpg

My second choice would be the HK USP 45 Tactical (also with Night Sights).

http://www.hk-usa.com/-images/products/usp_tactical/lg_uspt.jpg

And a quiet can of course.

Darklyte27
09-05-2012, 6:26 PM
1911 with some night sights im the most accurate out of the pistols i own

Oldnoob
09-05-2012, 6:42 PM
Glock 22 or 17 + extended slide stop.

I have many pistols that I like more than Glock. But none I trust more.

WootSauce
09-05-2012, 6:44 PM
HK P30L or my Glock 17Gen4

Can't decide which... Probably both :43:

Hey, you said sidearm... the other would be a back-up

AlbcAlbrr
09-05-2012, 10:35 PM
Sig P226 Navy in 9mm or W. German Sig P220 in 45acp

ELIXIR
09-05-2012, 11:37 PM
Made in Germany Sig 226 9mm. Nothing else.

Grayblue
09-06-2012, 12:18 AM
M&P 40.

No manual firing inhibit switch, no magazine disconnect, no internal lock.

GW
09-06-2012, 12:37 AM
Wilson CQB 1911
It works and hits what I aim at.

Daze
09-06-2012, 1:03 AM
Never let me down to date, although if ammo was my choice as well as the gun I would carry the 226R in .357SIG rather than 9mm or .40 cal.

evlblkrfl
09-06-2012, 1:40 AM
Colt Delta Elite or G20C.

Freagan
09-06-2012, 11:32 AM
Sig P228

oghl888
09-06-2012, 11:43 AM
a side arm is really not that important in the big scheme of going into combat. If I ever need to call on a side arm in combat, I am in more $h1t that I care to be in anyway. But for this exercise, if I have to pick one, it would be a Glock 18 for its full auto capability.

TheExiled
09-06-2012, 12:20 PM
Glock 10mm with night sights

SpunkyJivl
09-06-2012, 12:28 PM
I'd take anything. Its better than nothing.

Given a choice, it'd be a Five Seven with 30 round mags and military issue AP rounds.

Excelsior
09-06-2012, 12:30 PM
Of your choice, what would it be and why? You only get to pick one and it can't be an ar/ak pistol. It can be a gun you have or wish you had:D

Something that will be in a holster on your belt/vest or strapped to your leg.

I would take a full sized Cz 75b sp-01 in 40 cal. Its a proven design that is both accurate and reliable. I would have a light and laser combo, and some sweet night sights. All black on black.

I think there are a lot of handguns that are excellent choices for combat. Remember this will be a sidearm not your primary gun or rifle, but you will have to trust your life with it.

So let's see what your combat pistol of choice is!!

G20 or G17L

Timbob55
09-06-2012, 12:32 PM
1911, utterly reliable and leaves a big hole.

Mac Attack
09-06-2012, 1:46 PM
My 1911 because its been boringly reliable, accurate and I have a lot of magazines for it. Also, I have more trigger time with it and trust it implicitly.

glassparman
09-06-2012, 1:49 PM
Springfield 1911 .45 - That's what I carried while ridding on 56 tons of steel and it never let me down.

SacTown
09-06-2012, 2:40 PM
Glock 17 or Sig P226 (9mm)

Elysium
09-06-2012, 7:32 PM
P228.

Shapes And Colors
09-06-2012, 9:10 PM
My Sig 1911. Very reliable and I shoot it well.

Damiiaaannn
09-06-2012, 9:11 PM
1911

CessnaDriver
09-07-2012, 3:01 PM
I'd go with my HK45.

Bhobbs
09-07-2012, 3:32 PM
I'd take a mil spec M1911a1. The 1911s being built today aren't true to the original design which may have something to due with the reliability aspect. Plus the M1911 was designed to feed .45 ACP ball ammo and not hollow points.

jfa25
09-07-2012, 3:34 PM
Would love to give the nod to my Kimber but gotta go with my Browning Hi Power

k1dude
09-07-2012, 3:39 PM
Glock G17 or Sig P228. And I don't even like Glocks that much. But I recognize them for what they do well - fight wars.

Glock31B
09-07-2012, 3:39 PM
Ill stick to the M9 because im most familiar and replacement parts would be easy to find if anything should arise. But I would add in HP's I dont like using FMJ in the military, expansion is power.

RECCE556
09-07-2012, 3:46 PM
My Gen4 Glock 17 that's stock except for Warren Tactical 3-dot Night Sights, Vickers Tactical Magazine Release and Vickers Tactical Slide Stop/Release.

TripleThreat
09-07-2012, 3:52 PM
Glock 9mm.

Light weight, proven reliability, high capacity.

Glocks' shine when it comes to a war or duty gun.


HD or range gun, I'd go with something else like a CZ, Sig or 1911.

Triple

Eldraque
09-07-2012, 3:59 PM
Sig p229 .40

johnny_22
09-07-2012, 3:59 PM
I have two SIG P229 in 9 mm (one DAO, one DAK) and lots of magazines and lots of ammo.

These are the guns I have trained with and shoot with regularly. If I had to supply my own gear in an unorganized militia, SIG is my choice.

bubbapug1
09-07-2012, 4:03 PM
Friend of mine who came back from Afgan said his AR jammed in the middle of a close street fight and he pulled his M9 and shot a guy 3 times in the chest from 5 yards. The guy jumped back into the alley and took off running. He was relieved the guy gave up and left the fight but was very uneasy that 3 shots to the chest did nothing to the guy. Had he wanted, he could have jumped back in with his AK and killed my buddy or set off a bomb. He said the AR just opens them up and they fall fast, pistols are just noise poppers in a fight with rifles. Yes a pistol did save his life and is a worthy tool to have but its not a game winner.

So how about we set up a test with a 9mm m9 that you can fire with a string, than you shoot yourself 3 times in the chest at 5 yards and you tell us how fast you run. I think if you truly believe what you posted you owe it to the board to prove it...and please, make a video.

Chief-7700
09-07-2012, 4:33 PM
Glock 9mm.

Light weight, proven reliability, high capacity.

Glocks' shine when it comes to a war or duty gun.


HD or range gun, I'd go with something else like a CZ, Sig or 1911.

Triple

What I'm missing here?

"Glocks' shine when it comes to a war or duty gun."

"HD or range gun, I'd go with something else like a CZ, Sig or 1911."

What is the difference between war and HD? Why go to war with a Glock and defended your home with a CZ, Sig or 1911?
Chief

chief003
09-07-2012, 4:39 PM
I'd take anything. Its better than nothing.

Given a choice, it'd be a Five Seven with 30 round mags and military issue AP rounds.

I agree!

TripleThreat
09-07-2012, 5:25 PM
What I'm missing here?

"Glocks' shine when it comes to a war or duty gun."

"HD or range gun, I'd go with something else like a CZ, Sig or 1911."

What is the difference between war and HD? Why go to war with a Glock and defended your home with a CZ, Sig or 1911?
Chief

I can't tell you what to do, but this is what I'd do and why.

In a combat situation (war environment) one would have multiple targets and most likely an entire Country full of enemies (think Iran or Afghanistan). I would want a lightweight, high round weapon that doesn't have to be as accurate as lets say a target gun. Your enemy would be across a field or in another building etc, etc.

A HD gun, I would use to stop 1, 2, maybe 3 assailants at most, in my own home so it wouldn't need to be lightweight as I would only need to carry it for few minutes and not months or years at a time as would be the case in most wars situations.

It's doesn't need to 17, 18 or 19 rounds as could get away with much less. As a HD weapon, I'd be taking on people in my own home like across the room or down the hall and I would benefit from having a more accurate weapon or a higher round count weapon.

It must sound crazy that someone would choose two different weapons for those completely different situations.

I see the differences as night and day.

Triple

k1dude
09-07-2012, 6:06 PM
What I'm missing here?

"Glocks' shine when it comes to a war or duty gun."

"HD or range gun, I'd go with something else like a CZ, Sig or 1911."

What is the difference between war and HD? Why go to war with a Glock and defended your home with a CZ, Sig or 1911?
Chief

War is a dirty and brutal endeavor. You may have a $5,000, hand fitted, highly tuned 1911 that you shoot knat's off your targets at the range. But drive a humvee over it, then pull it out of the sand and see how well it does. A Glock won't even notice.

Chief-7700
09-07-2012, 6:18 PM
War is a dirty and brutal endeavor. You may have a $5,000, hand fitted, highly tuned 1911 that you shoot knat's off your targets at the range. But drive a humvee over it, then pull it out of the sand and see how well it does. A Glock won't even notice.

The M1911 was the sidearm for our armed forces during WW1,WW2, Korea, Nam. Glock is just a new kid on the block. Guess I'm old school being 61 years old and been shooting a 1911 for 40 years....
Chief

k1dude
09-07-2012, 6:36 PM
The M1911 was the sidearm for our armed forces during WW1,WW2, Korea, Nam. Glock is just a new kid on the block. Guess I'm old school being 61 years old and been shooting a 1911 for 40 years....
Chief

I've been shooting 1911's for 45 years. I love 1911's. They have performed admirably in all the wars over the last century that it has fought.

But it isn't as light, doesn't have the capacity, isn't as durable, and isn't as reliable as a Glock.

And I'm not a fan of Glocks. I own a couple, but I reach for other favorites when going to the range. If I were going to war today, I'd leave my beloved 1911's and revolvers behind and reach for one of my Glocks. Hell, I even like my M&P better than my Glocks. But for war I'll still reach for a Glock.

ArkinDomino
09-07-2012, 6:46 PM
M&P9 full size.

Can't buy anything here
09-07-2012, 7:01 PM
The Liberator .45

feelgood
09-07-2012, 7:10 PM
my favorite pistol Sig Sauer P226 navy!!

Saym14
09-07-2012, 7:13 PM
HK P30 L

RECCE556
09-07-2012, 7:21 PM
If I were going to war today, I'd leave my beloved 1911's and revolvers behind and reach for one of my Glocks.
Awe hell nah, I'll still take my 1911's with me (with my Gen4 G17)...I love 'em...even if they are boat anchors. :)

discoed
09-07-2012, 7:35 PM
Sig P226 9MM.

DeanGlock30
09-07-2012, 7:57 PM
When $#%& hits the fan i will have my G21 in my hand.

6114DAVE
09-07-2012, 9:09 PM
G18 with 30 rd mags baby!! Matrix style!

opie4386
09-07-2012, 10:18 PM
So how about we set up a test with a 9mm m9 that you can fire with a string, than you shoot yourself 3 times in the chest at 5 yards and you tell us how fast you run. I think if you truly believe what you posted you owe it to the board to prove it...and please, make a video.

Anybody have a link to the doctor video comparing handgun and rifle damage? There is a part where a victime gets shot 2 times in the chest and once in the back left shoulder. He ranway came back stood around and sat down to wait. He got shot at about 5-10 feet away

bubbapug1
09-07-2012, 10:23 PM
Anybody have a link to the doctor video comparing handgun and rifle damage? There is a part where a victime gets shot 2 times in the chest and once in the back left shoulder. He ranway came back stood around and sat down to wait. He got shot at about 5-10 feet away

I got a video camera. Do you want to be the test dummy? I think these types of stories are pure fantasy. 2 shots to the chest from a 9mm will usually be serious, if not deadly.

I'm not a big Glock fan for target shooting but if I had to go play army I'd choose it over a 1911. A 17 round magazine in a G17
Would be my choice.

Shapes And Colors
09-07-2012, 10:25 PM
I got a video camera. Do you want to be the test dummy? I think these types of stories are pure fantasy. 2 shots to the chest from a 9mm will usually be serious, if not deadly.

It's a fantasy on video. Watched it twice.

tuna quesadilla
09-07-2012, 10:26 PM
Colt Single Action Army

bubbapug1
09-07-2012, 10:27 PM
It's a fantasy on video. Watched it twice.

Link please

Shapes And Colors
09-07-2012, 10:32 PM
Link please

Didn't keep the link. It was posted a month or two ago. I'll see if I can dig it up.

freethemouse
09-07-2012, 10:34 PM
***NSFW***GRAPHIC IMAGES***
VIEWER DISCRETION ADVISED [GORE, PEOPLE GETTING SHOT, CORPSES, ETC.]
I found this video in another Calguns thread. It's of a doctor discussing gunshot wounds.
Link to video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tku8YI68-JA

tl;dr - most gunshot deaths are caused by bleeding, not damage to vital organs (at least when it comes to pistol calibers).

Shapes And Colors
09-07-2012, 10:36 PM
Here you go: 14:30

tku8YI68-JA

freethemouse
09-07-2012, 10:56 PM
I got a video camera. Do you want to be the test dummy? I think these types of stories are pure fantasy. 2 shots to the chest from a 9mm will usually be serious, if not deadly.

Oh it's deadly. But you're not going to drop dead instantly like you see in the movies, at least according to the doctor in the video posted above.

It's not surprising if you think about it; humans are animals. If a pig or deer won't drop dead from a single 9mm shot, you probably won't either.

bubbapug1
09-07-2012, 11:16 PM
wow...I stand corrected. What an awesome video, very enlightening.

I am not taking a glock 17, I'm taking a 5.7 or a DE 44 mag!!!

Thanks guys, fantastic find.

nitroxdiver
09-08-2012, 12:44 AM
Whatever weighs the least since you'll be carrying it and not really using it. Ounces = pounds and pounds = pain. Now if I was back in my former military role as a helo guy, weight wouldn't matter, sooooo p228 in a chest rig on my SV-2 vest. :-)

Bullwhip55
09-08-2012, 8:33 AM
SIG 226 .40 It isn't the arrow..It is the Indian

ap3572001
09-08-2012, 8:40 AM
Glock 22. GEN4 with 22rd mags.

WINGEDSWORD
09-08-2012, 12:42 PM
My Colt Goldcup loaded with 185 JHP. that to answer your question. But if I knew I was vgoing ino a fight the handgun is strictly backup. primary is an M1A socom 16.

DavidR310
09-08-2012, 2:55 PM
MPA 5.7 pistol with folding stock and 50 round mag.

http://www.usmachinegun.com/prodimages/DSC03771.JPG
http://www.usmachinegun.com/prodimages/sten%20l%20002.jpg

And it needs to be Pack-A-Punch'd.

spetsnaz
09-08-2012, 3:18 PM
g17

dmmikhail
09-08-2012, 5:56 PM
Cz 75b with competition hammer, SA trigger, FPB disabled, and some 32rd magazines

BigDogatPlay
09-08-2012, 5:58 PM
Sig P226 in 9mm if I am limited to just one gun.

bombadillo
09-08-2012, 5:58 PM
Probably an XDm Tactical 9mm with 20 round capacity and a lot of mags. If that wasn't available, it would be Glock 17, then an FN FiveSeven.

Shapes And Colors
09-08-2012, 6:09 PM
wow...I stand corrected. What an awesome video, very elightening.

I am not taking a glock 17, I'm taking a 5.7 or a DE 44 mag!!!

Thanks guys, fantastic find.

You're very welcome. Certainly puts things in perspective doesn't it?

den888
09-08-2012, 6:44 PM
Beretta 92FS

223556
09-08-2012, 6:48 PM
+1 on the Glock 17

Parts/Mags/Ammo are available almost everywhere.

DavidR310
09-08-2012, 7:01 PM
^ FAIL

On not reading the whole thread.

If I'm going in combat with the military then it's the 1911 or the 92. I'm gonna need something fairly standardized so if I need parts or ammo I can find them easily.

True, but if this was more of a fantasy and you have all the spare parts/springs to keep your gun going for a long time, what would it be? Nothing wrong with the 92 for combat imo.

Irv
09-08-2012, 8:25 PM
Combat= any of my .45
Zombie invasion= 9mm glock availability of mags and ammo.

ASD1
09-08-2012, 9:00 PM
USPT .45

Red Devil
09-08-2012, 9:10 PM
.40 Glock G35 P/T (Practical/Tactical)

Sam
09-08-2012, 10:32 PM
Easy, G17.

Stewdabaker23
09-08-2012, 10:48 PM
I would use my Springfield xD .45 with my viridian green laser. Reliable and accurate.

Mr.1904
09-08-2012, 11:43 PM
My glock 17.

MikeR
09-09-2012, 9:53 AM
Double stack 1911, the one in my pic. Because if I can't get it done with 16 rounds of tac driving 45 acp goodness I have bigger problems.

Capt_Communist
09-09-2012, 12:33 PM
Glock 21SF

Leesan82
09-09-2012, 1:11 PM
HK USP 9mm with LEM trigger.

bsg
09-09-2012, 2:10 PM
SIG P228 in 9mm.

9mm ammo is used by NATO and if needed it would be available more than other calibers.


nice pick.

sand951
09-09-2012, 8:48 PM
Glock 21.

willerfortheworld
09-10-2012, 5:51 PM
MPA 5.7 pistol with folding stock and 50 round mag.

http://www.usmachinegun.com/prodimages/DSC03771.JPG
http://www.usmachinegun.com/prodimages/sten%20l%20002.jpg

And it needs to be Pack-A-Punch'd.

Cheater :p I want to see you put that in a holster and pull it out quickly

bubbapug1
09-13-2012, 12:17 AM
You're very welcome. Certainly puts things in perspective doesn't it?

Yes, totally ruined my love affair for 9mm....a 10 pound weight dropped 0.72"s...thats not much of a deterrent. Well, it did make me go load up some DRT frangible 223 79 grain rounds for my AR's pistol. That will definitely make someone stop in their tracks as they disintegrate within 2" or entry and enter at 2700 fps....thats a lot of foot pounds there.

Apec
09-13-2012, 12:21 AM
Hi Point 9mm.

dave sac
09-13-2012, 6:09 AM
Glock 18 and glock 17.

Freq18Hz
09-13-2012, 8:52 AM
Having never had advanced combat training, I would probably be less concerned about which gun, and would instead be more focused on which type of depends diapers I would wear for when I **** my pants out of fear.

I'd probably take a ruger mkII with an 8x scope on it, so I could shoot from a distance during the moments where I was not actively running as fast as possible from the people shooting at me.

-Freq

fullspeed1
09-13-2012, 9:06 AM
Having never had advanced combat training, I would probably be less concerned about which gun, and would instead be more focused on which type of depends diapers I would wear for when I **** my pants out of fear.

I'd probably take a ruger mkII with an 8x scope on it, so I could shoot from a distance during the moments where I was not actively running as fast as possible from the people shooting at me.

-Freq

This!

cannon
09-13-2012, 9:11 AM
Probably a Glock 19 I'd choose it for the same reason I'd choose a Bic lighter as my only lighter for a camping trip.

Boring but dead reliable.

sharxbyte
09-13-2012, 9:13 AM
Scorpion SA Vz 61 :43:

Invisible_Dave
09-13-2012, 9:33 AM
Having never had advanced combat training, I would probably be less concerned about which gun, and would instead be more focused on which type of depends diapers I would wear for when I **** my pants out of fear.

I'd probably take a ruger mkII with an 8x scope on it, so I could shoot from a distance during the moments where I was not actively running as fast as possible from the people shooting at me.

-Freq

Most honest post in 7 pages.

pacifico23
09-13-2012, 6:29 PM
My xd-45. I know my pistol and can trust it. Have about 3k rounds through it only a couple misfires on my part for accidently hitting slide stop

Neptune
09-13-2012, 7:40 PM
What I carry everyday. Springfield TRP full rail.

Carry what works and what you're familiar with. Carry what you train on.



Springfield TRP .45acp
(stock photo)

http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo296/hotpistol/trprail.jpg



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gun505
09-13-2012, 8:33 PM
To go to battle g19 with my double stack mags

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