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bubbagump
09-03-2012, 9:04 AM
Saw this on another forum (lightfighter). KABOOM was due to gun shop reloads (not factory).

Buy good ammo dudes.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee467/Chameleox/BerettaKB.jpg

whlgun
09-03-2012, 9:12 AM
That could never happen to my Glock lol.

ZNinerFan
09-03-2012, 9:17 AM
I would almost expect the barrel to have been plugged from the previous shot for it to banana peel like that.

Mr. Beretta
09-03-2012, 9:19 AM
Wow....Never seen one like that.

That round must have been super over charged.

Wow.

BlackDrop50
09-03-2012, 9:49 AM
Don't run reloads unless they are your own.

Euphoria526
09-03-2012, 9:50 AM
I would almost expect the barrel to have been plugged from the previous shot for it to banana peel like that.

Agreed. Unless they loaded a super hot Round, or managed to load a .45 in there

nick
09-03-2012, 9:55 AM
Those Berettas always KB. It's due to the oversupported chamber, especially in 9mm.

P5Ret
09-03-2012, 10:01 AM
That one is unique. It almost looks like it the round discharged before it had fully chambered.

Fastattack
09-03-2012, 10:06 AM
Why does it look so clean? No soot or gunpowder residue anywhere. Just sayin.

HK35
09-03-2012, 10:13 AM
Wow....Never seen one like that.

That round must have been super over charged.

Wow.

How does one super over charge a 9mm?

zfields
09-03-2012, 10:20 AM
How does one super over charge a 9mm?

Wrong powder, double charging with a low volume powder, compressing the load, etc.

littlejake
09-03-2012, 10:21 AM
It's likely a double charge. although, I seen range loads with zero powder and the primer drives the bullet into the barrel. Usually this condition is caught by an experienced semi-auto shooter. But, may not be caught in a revolver.

I've seen Beretta 92s break their lock block -- but not blow their chamber.

Tango_Whiskey
09-03-2012, 10:23 AM
That should buff out.

monk
09-03-2012, 10:26 AM
That could never happen to my Glock lol.

Agreed. Glocks tend to KB more horizontally as opposed to vertically.

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/images/22kb.jpg


:p

hkdad
09-03-2012, 10:32 AM
Squib followed with another round = KB!!

Oldnoob
09-03-2012, 10:37 AM
Weird. Beretta has couple of weak point by design. One would think it could in many of these areas. But it just blow out the chamber. Very interesting.

HK35
09-03-2012, 10:38 AM
Squib followed with another round = KB!!

I think this is more likely tha an overcharged 9mm

fullspeed1
09-03-2012, 10:47 AM
Agreed. Glocks tend to KB more horizontally as opposed to vertically.

http://www.thegunzone.com/glock/images/22kb.jpg


:p

Aftermarket barrel??

SilverTauron
09-03-2012, 10:53 AM
Using other peoples' reloads is like borrowing a stranger's condom.

Z.1
09-03-2012, 11:01 AM
Squib followed with another round = KB!!

^^^ I'm going with this.

ir0nclash86
09-03-2012, 11:06 AM
Has anybody ever done the stats for kabooms from commercial reloads vs factory ammo?

meaty-btz
09-03-2012, 11:06 AM
Using other peoples' reloads is like borrowing a stranger's condom.

insert USED and you'd have it.

hkdad
09-03-2012, 11:10 AM
^^^ I'm going with this.

Yup... I saw it before.. Not with a Beretta though, but very very similar.


I trust my own re-loads more than Factory or gun shop re-loaded ammo. sometimes the powder hopper will get clogged and won't drop any powder. You miss that single one then you will get a squib. Bullet will be stuck inside the barrel. you rack the slide, squeeze the trigger.... then... DISASTER!!!

Fjold
09-03-2012, 11:19 AM
Agreed. Unless they loaded a super hot Round, or managed to load a .45 in there

You do realize that a 45 round will not fit in the magazine or the chamber of a 9mm don't you?

luchador768
09-03-2012, 11:23 AM
It's the new Red Jacket potted chamber. Neva been dun befo'.

luchador768
09-03-2012, 11:23 AM
*ported, stupid auto correct.

cfusionpm
09-03-2012, 11:27 AM
Don't run reloads unless they are your own.

I've gone through over 2000 rounds of 9mm Miwall reloads in 3 different pistols. 500 rounds of .45acp in two pistols, 800 rounds of .308 in two rifles, and 500 rounds of .223 in my AR. I trust Miwall reloads...

97F1504RAD
09-03-2012, 11:33 AM
A little JBWeld will fix that right up.

jeffrice6
09-03-2012, 11:53 AM
Using other peoples' reloads is like borrowing a stranger's condom.

:rofl:

tuna quesadilla
09-03-2012, 11:56 AM
Why do people ignore this golden rule of firearms safety?

Never shoot another person's reloads.

Never shoot another person's reloads.

NEVER SHOOT ANOTHER PERSON'S RELOADS.

CK_32
09-03-2012, 12:02 PM
Ouch!

Hopefully everyone was ok.

Squib or double charge for sure.

Czsp-01-9mm
09-03-2012, 12:26 PM
You guys sure that's not the new loaded chamber indicator?

unusedusername
09-03-2012, 12:30 PM
I've gone through over 2000 rounds of 9mm Miwall reloads in 3 different pistols. 500 rounds of .45acp in two pistols, 800 rounds of .308 in two rifles, and 500 rounds of .223 in my AR. I trust Miwall reloads...

Even Miwall has mistakes sometimes. I got 2 squibs out of the first 200 from my last box of 500 38spc from them.

Of course I've probably gone through 10k+ of their rounds before I had any issue.

Just be aware of what you are doing with any ammo and if it feels strange then don't shoot.

Bug Splat
09-03-2012, 12:32 PM
Had a squib on Sat at the range (my reloads). Distinctive mouse fart sound and when I eject the case its empty. Chamber flag down the barrel shows a 45cal bullet about an inch in. An inexperienced shooter would have chambered a new round and kaboom'ed the pistol and a couple fingers.

I reload my rounds one at a time on a turret and have been loading for years but things can be missed. I have only had a few squibs out of 100K reloads but it can and does happen. I also don't use low volume powder to prevent double charges. Watched an old-timer blow up his 44mag revo with his double charged reloads. Was not pretty.

Ron-Solo
09-03-2012, 12:33 PM
Using other peoples' reloads is like borrowing a stranger's condom.

Yep

Bug Splat
09-03-2012, 12:36 PM
I've gone through over 2000 rounds of 9mm Miwall reloads in 3 different pistols. 500 rounds of .45acp in two pistols, 800 rounds of .308 in two rifles, and 500 rounds of .223 in my AR. I trust Miwall reloads...

Miwall sold me 195 bad 9mm reload out of 500. The cases had not been resized at all. Shipped it all back, will never buy from them again and will never use reloads other than my own.

Branden967
09-03-2012, 12:49 PM
Is it just me or does it look like you can just throw anther barrel in there and let her rip? Why doesnt the slide look damaged?

John Browning
09-03-2012, 1:18 PM
Double or triple charge of pistol powder.

It is not a squib because there is no bulge in the barrel. Burst at the chamber might also be from an OOB, but I still am going with the two charges for the price of one.

InGrAM
09-03-2012, 3:25 PM
Yikes...... I hope everyone is OK.

I had a double load with "bubba" gun show reloads once. I was shooting my Father's friends Taurus pt100 and Kaaabooommm!!! Shot the trigger bar right out the side of the gun. No where near as bad as what happened in the pick but I can assure you that I started paying more attention to what types of ammo I used from then on.

It happens, there really isn't much you can do about it. Even factory loads can have double charges or mixed powders. That is one reason why eye and ear protection are wonderful things, lol.

jj805
09-03-2012, 3:39 PM
Using other peoples' reloads is like borrowing a stranger's condom.

Like this one.;)

http://images.sodahead.com/blogs/000272615/free_condom_pin2_xlarge.jpeg

223556
09-03-2012, 3:39 PM
It looks salvagable at least.
May just need a new barrel and misc. parts.
Glad no one was harmed.

Jazeronthelaser
09-03-2012, 3:57 PM
You guys sure that's not the new loaded chamber indicator?


LMFAO!!

Euphoria526
09-03-2012, 4:08 PM
You do realize that a 45 round will not fit in the magazine or the chamber of a 9mm don't you?

Yes i do. It was a joke.
Almost did that with a 9 & 40 once though. Hahahahaha

johnny1290
09-03-2012, 5:32 PM
Jeez. I sure made a few squibs when I first started reloading and didn't know to check the powder level in each round while seating the bullet. Thank god I always caught them at the range.

elsolo
09-04-2012, 10:31 AM
Double or triple charge of pistol powder.

It is not a squib because there is no bulge in the barrel. Burst at the chamber might also be from an OOB, but I still am going with the two charges for the price of one.

9mm doesn't have the case capacity for a triple charge, maybe a 1.5 charge that gets compressed and send pressures through the roof.

All it takes is a small rifle primer accidentally loaded into a pistol round to change the pressures significantly.

xbimmers
09-04-2012, 1:30 PM
Saw this on another forum (lightfighter). KABOOM was due to gun shop reloads (not factory).

Buy good ammo dudes.

http://i1229.photobucket.com/albums/ee467/Chameleox/BerettaKB.jpg

"I'VE HAD WORSE......."

deconb
09-04-2012, 1:38 PM
Any word on the manufacturer of the ammo?

Lifeon2whls
09-04-2012, 1:50 PM
If this was a professional reload, they should be insured. I would go back and go after them for damages to the gun due to the bad ammo.

viet4lifeOC
09-04-2012, 2:45 PM
Question for the more experience shooters and/or reloaders.

What am I looking for in reloads (more so) and factory ammo as one is loading them into a magazine? What signs indicate a bad load?

thank you

edgerly779
09-04-2012, 2:58 PM
When I reload I charge all he cases in a tray of 50 and visually inspected that all the charges are uniform before seating bullets. Never had a squib because of powder. Looks like double charge to me if barrel plugged it would open like a flower.

BrassCase
09-04-2012, 5:11 PM
The split barrel slide picture showed it was a 40. I guess they tried to make their own +p+ ammo!

hermosabeach
09-04-2012, 6:59 PM
One of the local ranges reloaded there own ammo for range reloads and also for department qual / range days

A customers gun KB'd and they gave the guy a new pistol and shortly afterwards stopped manufacturing reloads

Roland Deschain
09-04-2012, 7:12 PM
One of the local ranges reloaded there own ammo for range reloads and also for department qual / range days

A customers gun KB'd and they gave the guy a new pistol and shortly afterwards stopped manufacturing reloads

Personally I wish more ranges would drop the requirement of me firing their reloads in the guns I rent. It's bad enough that I'm renting a gun with a questionable amount of abuse to see how it runs for me but then you add on questionable reloads. Honestly I wouldn't even mind if they required I use Factory Load X in their rented guns. Only reason I can see for the requirement is I am forced to buy their reloads vs just bringing Factory Load X with me :D

elsolo
09-04-2012, 8:15 PM
Question for the more experience shooters and/or reloaders.

What am I looking for in reloads (more so) and factory ammo as one is loading them into a magazine? What signs indicate a bad load?

thank you

By then, it's too late for the more important quality control steps.

You can make sure the primer is seated all the way and not upside down, the case overall length isn't waaay too short, and the brass isn't noticeably f-ed up.

rimfire78
09-04-2012, 9:30 PM
What shop exactly did the reloads come from?

huckberry668
09-05-2012, 1:38 AM
I'm really surprised at how localized the damage is. The extractor is still in place and the slide looks usable (not that I would). I wonder what the round would do to a Glock...

GuillermoAntonio
09-05-2012, 4:32 AM
Squib followed with another round = KB!!

This almost happened to me once, but I caught it.
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=467673&page=2

kentactic
09-05-2012, 4:40 AM
either a double powder charge or the first one only fired a primer and is stuck in the barrel and then he said hm that was weird let me fire another round, KABOOM... Gotta pay attention to reloads. If it sounded or felt weak inspect to make sure the bore is empty.