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sando
09-02-2012, 9:44 AM
I'm looking for some help on this S&W 686-1. I'm the original owner.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7915053862_7b1d3e12f1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69847125@N08/7915053862/)

I took it out to the range for the first time in years recently and experienced a cylinder lock-up. I've shot maybe 500 rounds thru it before without a problem until now. I see know there's a recall in place, so it's going in to S&W for that work this week.

As for "pre-lock", what's the cutoff? I found this somewhere:
686 no dash, 1980, introduced model
686-1, 1986, radius stud package, floating hand
686-2, 1987, changed hammer nose, bushing and associated parts
686-3, 1988, new yoke retention system
686-4, 1993, change rear sight leaf, drill and tap frame, change extractor, hogue grips
686-5, 1997, change frame design to eliminate cylinder stop stud, eleminate serrated tangs, change to MIM hammer with floating firing pin, change to MIM trigger, change internal lockwork
686-6, 2001, internal lock
Does that mean anything pre-1997 is "pre-lock"?

ap3572001
09-02-2012, 10:27 AM
I'm looking for some help on this S&W 686-1. I'm the original owner.
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8300/7915053862_7b1d3e12f1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/69847125@N08/7915053862/)

I took it out to the range for the first time in years recently and experienced a cylinder lock-up. I've shot maybe 500 rounds thru it before without a problem until now. I see know there's a recall in place, so it's going in to S&W for that work this week.

As for "pre-lock", what's the cutoff? I found this somewhere:
686 no dash, 1980, introduced model
686-1, 1986, radius stud package, floating hand
686-2, 1987, changed hammer nose, bushing and associated parts
686-3, 1988, new yoke retention system
686-4, 1993, change rear sight leaf, drill and tap frame, change extractor, hogue grips
686-5, 1997, change frame design to eliminate cylinder stop stud, eleminate serrated tangs, change to MIM hammer with floating firing pin, change to MIM trigger, change internal lockwork
686-6, 2001, internal lock
Does that mean anything pre-1997 is "pre-lock"?

Send it to S&W and they will take care of the problem and stamp it with letter "M"

sando
09-02-2012, 10:56 AM
Send it to S&W and they will take care of the problem and stamp it with letter "M"
Yep, will do. It's the first time I used .357 JHP thru it. Never had a problem with .38 wad cutters.

littlejake
09-02-2012, 12:09 PM
If you had a lock model, you'd see a hole in the left side near the cylinder release. You won't find it on a dash 1 model.

In May 2001, S&W was sold to the Saf-T-Hammer Corporation. They hold the patent on the lock and started incorporating it into the S&W line.

I intensely dislike the lock and will never buy another S&W until they quit installing them. I'm not a fan of MIM parts either, so, I'd would not buy a S&W made after 1996.

Revoman
09-02-2012, 1:05 PM
As for "pre-lock", what's the cutoff? I found this somewhere:
686 no dash, 1980, introduced model
686-1, 1986, radius stud package, floating hand
686-2, 1987, changed hammer nose, bushing and associated parts This is the reason why yours needs the Modification. there was an issue with magnum rounds pushing the primer back into the larger diameter opening for the firing pin/nose.
686-3, 1988, new yoke retention system
686-4, 1993, change rear sight leaf, drill and tap frame, change extractor, hogue grips
686-5, 1997, change frame design to eliminate cylinder stop stud, eleminate serrated tangs, change to MIM hammer with floating firing pin, change to MIM trigger, change internal lockwork
686-6, 2001, internal lock
Does that mean anything pre-1997 is "pre-lock"? Yes, but it would apparently be pre-2001 would not have the IL, if I'm reading that correctly.

The dash one is before the MIM and IL was introduced.

Dutch Henry
09-02-2012, 1:33 PM
I don't know where you're located, but S&W has warranty repair stations that will fix it, usually much faster than sending it to the factory.

I've had my S&W revolvers and autos repaired here:

BOLSA GUNSMITHING
7404 BOLSA AVENUE
WESTMINSTER, CA 92683
Phone: (714) 894-9100
http://www.bolsagunsmithing.com/

sando
09-02-2012, 1:44 PM
If you had a lock model, you'd see a hole in the left side near the cylinder release. You won't find it on a dash 1 model.

In May 2001, S&W was sold to the Saf-T-Hammer Corporation. They hold the patent on the lock and started incorporating it into the S&W line.




The dash one is before the MIM and IL was introduced.
OK thanks for the info, guys. It makes sense now and I wanted to be on the right page.

I don't know where you're located, but S&W has warranty repair stations that will fix it, usually much faster than sending it to the factory.

I've had my S&W revolvers and autos repaired here:

BOLSA GUNSMITHING
7404 BOLSA AVENUE
WESTMINSTER, CA 92683
Phone: (714) 894-9100
http://www.bolsagunsmithing.com/
I'm in Costa Mesa. I've been by that shop a times but never gone in. I'll call them this week. Thanks alot!