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DRAB_81
08-30-2012, 8:50 PM
I was halfway out the door at Barnwood Arms (after my monthly range session with Pops), and something told me to check the counter for a M&P Shield. I couldn't believe my eyes when I saw it, and it just so happened to be the 9mm I've been looking for.

The trigger felt pretty heavy to me when I dry-fired it for the first time, and immediately had me thinking about ordering the trigger kit from Apex. The reset is very positive, and has a nice pronounced "click". Once I finally got to shoot it, the heavy trigger break turned out to be a non-issue. I didn't notice the heavy break at all while I was shooting it, and it actually felt perfect for what the gun is designed for. I'll definitely be keeping the trigger stock, like all my Glocks.

One thing I will be doing very soon, is modifying the safety mechanism. I'm going to cut off the striker-block tab, and put the assembly back in. That way no matter what position the safety is in, the gun will fire.

I shot 50rds Federal White Box 115gr FMJ, 50rds Independence 124gr FMJ, and 50rds of my USPSA Production 124gr JHP reloads. Absolutely no problems whatsoever, and it's a really nice shooter.

I knew before I even saw it that the grip would be too slippery for me, but it wasn't as bad as I anticipated. I have a set of rubber Talon Grips on the way, but if those don't cut it, I'll stipple it.

150rds @ 10yds
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Czsp-01-9mm
08-30-2012, 8:52 PM
Must be in Ripon, nice range and pretty good selection of firearms

Virus55
08-30-2012, 8:58 PM
Ive been wanting a shield pretty bad. barnwood has them in stock? Alquist and Elite arms have not even had the chance to order them. what was barnwoods price on it?

DRAB_81
08-30-2012, 9:13 PM
Ive been wanting a shield pretty bad. barnwood has them in stock? Alquist and Elite arms have not even had the chance to order them. what was barnwoods price on it?

It was the only one they had, and a couple of the guys didn't even know they had it. From what I understood, they put it in the case that morning, and I bought it at around 7:00 that night. I paid $439 + Tax & DROS.

Meety Peety
08-30-2012, 9:18 PM
Nice buy, there was a big focus on one of these last night on TV and I've been thinking about it ever since.. might be my next buy. :drool5:

CV62
08-30-2012, 9:20 PM
Nice!

Tiberius
08-30-2012, 11:05 PM
I hate to sound hysterical but . . . be extra careful if you modify the safety as it sounds like you're saying (and I may be getting it wrong). If you end up with an effectively inop safety lever, if you loan the gun to a friend, or someone picks it up at informal range and shoots their toe, I could see them blaming you. Might be better to have no lever at all.

I know, easily avoided by keeping control of the gun. I'm sure it won't be a problem for you, but the combination of the great unwashed masses + lots of lawyers can be a problem . . . .

InGrAM
08-31-2012, 12:38 AM
Great idea on disabling the safety, it is not necessary and it just adds complication to the pistol. I would do the same if I bought one.

DRAB_81
08-31-2012, 6:45 AM
Great idea on disabling the safety, it is not necessary and it just adds complication to the pistol. I would do the same if I bought one.

Yeah the safety is the only thing I don't like about the Shield, but it's an easy fix. I have read that the safety is difficult to engage, but I was disappointed to find out that it's not hard at all. I thought it would take a lot more pressure, but it's actually pretty easy.

Gryff
08-31-2012, 8:47 AM
One nice thing about the safety is that it allows you to holster without possibly getting a case of Glock leg.

Regular M&Ps and Glocks have the nasty ability to get shirt or jacket fabric caught in the trigger guard when holstering. As you push the gun into the holster, the trigger may get pressed (especially with IWB holsters) resulting in a round through your butt or leg. A manual safety gives you the ability to insure that this does not happen.

viet4lifeOC
08-31-2012, 9:17 AM
congrats on the new gun.

Still waiting for Turner's to call me to pick up mine.

DRAB_81
08-31-2012, 9:27 AM
I hate to sound hysterical but . . . be extra careful if you modify the safety as it sounds like you're saying (and I may be getting it wrong). If you end up with an effectively inop safety lever, if you loan the gun to a friend, or someone picks it up at informal range and shoots their toe, I could see them blaming you. Might be better to have no lever at all.

I know, easily avoided by keeping control of the gun. I'm sure it won't be a problem for you, but the combination of the great unwashed masses + lots of lawyers can be a problem . . . .

I do appreciate your concern, but wherever my guns go, I go.


One nice thing about the safety is that it allows you to holster without possibly getting a case of Glock leg.

Regular M&Ps and Glocks have the nasty ability to get shirt or jacket fabric caught in the trigger guard when holstering. As you push the gun into the holster, the trigger may get pressed (especially with IWB holsters) resulting in a round through your butt or leg. A manual safety gives you the ability to insure that this does not happen.

Given my experience with Glocks (ALL my other handguns are Glocks) & the fact that the Shield has a 6.5# trigger, I'm not worried about an AD/ND while holstering. That's not to say I don't have a healthy concern for it though. I use very deliberate movements while holstering pistols & I see them into the holster every time. Not everyone operates this way, so you still have a very valid point.


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Legasat
08-31-2012, 9:37 AM
Congrats on a excellent pistol! I am on waiting lists here.

bcj128
08-31-2012, 12:00 PM
I'm selling a couple guns to finance just such a pistol.

viet4lifeOC
08-31-2012, 12:23 PM
I'm selling a couple guns to finance just such a pistol.

You're a better planner than me.

I went to Turner's and paid in full for the Shield.

Am "now" in the process of selling some safe queens for it.

OpenYourEyes
08-31-2012, 6:55 PM
I absolutely cannot wait until Turners gets them in! I also preordered one. Personally, i like that it has a thumb safety. While it might not be necessary, i like the peace of mind it brings.

trendar5
08-31-2012, 7:22 PM
I miss my old 3913's and I saw a very clean used one today. I stopped and realized that my Shield does everything the 3913 does, but smaller, lighter, $150 cheaper,and easier to maintain. I continue to recommend the Shield to anybody and everybody.

skosh69
08-31-2012, 10:08 PM
Congrats...got mine about a month ago...love it!

bsg
09-01-2012, 7:55 AM
congratulations.

ZNiner
09-01-2012, 7:57 AM
Congrats on the pickup. This is my last gun to get this year when I am able to find one.

I'll start looking in October as I just recently DROS'd another handgun.

DRAB_81
09-02-2012, 9:17 PM
I modified the safety lever the other night. All I did was trim off the tab that blocks the striker, so everything is still intact. Now I don't have to worry about the ONLY thing I didn't like about the Shield. Here's a crappy video I took with my iPhone.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XahDy4rMAv4&feature=youtube_gdata_player

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G-Solutions
09-03-2012, 6:42 PM
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Given my experience with Glocks (ALL my other handguns are Glocks) & the fact that the Shield has a 6.5# trigger, I'm not worried about an AD/ND while holstering. That's not to say I don't have a healthy concern for it though. I use very deliberate movements while holstering pistols & I see them into the holster every time. Not everyone operates this way, so you still have a very valid point.


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Software solution to a software problem, just as it should be!

Congratulations to your new gun and thank you for sharing your insights. I've been interested in the Shield since S&W announced the CA-version. Your feedback makes the gun even more appealing.

West coast
09-03-2012, 6:44 PM
Nice...That on my wish list

Dragon
09-03-2012, 6:59 PM
One nice thing about the safety is that it allows you to holster without possibly getting a case of Glock leg.

Regular M&Ps and Glocks have the nasty ability to get shirt or jacket fabric caught in the trigger guard when holstering. As you push the gun into the holster, the trigger may get pressed (especially with IWB holsters) resulting in a round through your butt or leg. A manual safety gives you the ability to insure that this does not happen.

Yep !! **** happens !! I dont get why anyone would remove the safty. Dont like it dont use it.

Got lucky on that score.

DRAB_81
09-03-2012, 7:16 PM
I dont get why anyone would remove the safty. Dont like it dont use it.

If it were that easy, I wouldn't have removed it. The problem isn't the conscious action of engaging/disengaging the safety, which due to its size, could be very difficult under stress. The problem I wanted to avoid is holstering the weapon with the safety off, having it accidentally engaged while in the holster, and having to figure out what happened when the gun won't fire (as I'm being shot). The same concern applies to the nightstand, nightstand safe, purse, pocket etc etc etc. I put my Shield into a 5.11 Soft Case the other day, and pulled it out later to show it to a friend. The safety was off when I put it in the case, but when I pulled it out, the safety was engaged. It's not nearly as hard to engage the Shield's safety as I've read in recent reviews. I'd rather be 100% confident that no matter what, when I pull the trigger it goes bang, because I'm 100% confident that my finger will not be on the trigger until I'm ready to fire.

Agent Orange
09-03-2012, 7:24 PM
Cemeteries are filled with people who were 100% confident about a lot of things...

DRAB_81
09-03-2012, 7:44 PM
Cemeteries are filled with people who were 100% confident about a lot of things...

You're right. I'll never leave my house again, because I'm not 100% confident that I won't be struck by lightning, or maybe even a meteor. I'll never drive my truck again, because I'm not 100% confident that I won't drive it into opposing freeway traffic @ 80mph. I'll never go to Yosemite again, because I'm not 100% confident I won't die from the Hantavirus. I'll never eat Sushi again, because I'm not 100% sure I won't get some kind of deadly bacteria. In fact, I'll never eat or drink anything ever again, because I'm not 100% sure it's not going to poison me. I will also sell all my guns, because I can never be 100% confident that they will do their job. Don't be silly Gary...


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anthonyca
09-03-2012, 7:57 PM
Your hands look like they could crush a 10lb granite rock.

DRAB_81
09-08-2012, 3:32 PM
I got the rubberized Talons on it now, and they feel pretty good so far. They add a little more grit, but I won't know if it's enough until I put another couple hundred rounds through it.

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tuna quesadilla
09-08-2012, 3:46 PM
I gotta say, I'm solidly in the Glock camp but I've been SERIOUSLY jonesing for one of these every since they came out.

DRAB_81
09-08-2012, 4:05 PM
I gotta say, I'm solidly in the Glock camp but I've been SERIOUSLY jonesing for one of these every since they came out.

I know what you mean. Other than this gun, all my other guns are Glocks, and all I'm interested in is more Glocks. The only reason I bought this, is because Glock doesn't make a single stack 9. It's as close as we're going to get, and it doesn't operate all that differently. The trigger break and reset are very comparable to the Glock, so I'm ok with it.

Bull's_eye
09-08-2012, 5:28 PM
Did you get one that had been SSE or does it have the LCI? I was in a LGS today and asked if they had them and they told me the CA approved ones hadn't been sent in yet.

DRAB_81
09-10-2012, 12:04 PM
Did you get one that had been SSE or does it have the LCI? I was in a LGS today and asked if they had them and they told me the CA approved ones hadn't been sent in yet.

The CA Compliant version hasn't been released yet, but I'm sure someone will post here as soon as it gets released. I'm one of the "chosen ones" that doesn't have to worry about the roster or SSE's.

fourXfour
09-10-2012, 1:10 PM
I got the rubberized Talons on it now, and they feel pretty good so far. They add a little more grit, but I won't know if it's enough until I put another couple hundred rounds through it.

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http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c297/rabara9/C4B739B4-DDDA-456A-A07F-FEA2C068654A-1809-0000036E6B025903.jpg

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I went with grittier sandpaper grips from Talon. They made a huge improvement on my ability to maintain a solid grip while shooting. My fear is they will tear up my shirts, so I might change to the rubber talon grips.

Gary13
09-10-2012, 3:37 PM
Nice looking gun. Another reason why we need to meet up and shoot at Barnwood. I hope to be at Oakdale on Sunday for USPSA, though I will be shooting my 34 until my holster comes in for the 21.

dc2integra
09-10-2012, 4:13 PM
Very nice pistol congrats.

sanjosebmx
09-10-2012, 4:38 PM
gotta love Barnwood Arms.. they always take great care of me there too..