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sammy
08-30-2012, 6:24 PM
My daughter turns 8 in February and I want to surprise her with a .22 bolt action rifle. Magazine fed or single shot, does not matter. I am not after a cheap rifle but good value. Good iron sights and good accuracy is a priority. She is not super strong but she should be able to use the safety and bolt without assistance, in other words easy to use controls. The Cricket did nothing for me. I would like this rifle to go to her Grandchildren. Thanks, Sammy :chris:

223556
08-30-2012, 6:26 PM
My first thought would be a Ruger 10/22..
I'm not to familiar with bolt action .22 but I think Savage makes a very decent model.

morrcarr67
08-30-2012, 8:03 PM
Pink Cricket

Izzy43
08-30-2012, 8:08 PM
My daughter turns 8 in February and I want to surprise her with a .22 bolt action rifle. Magazine fed or single shot, does not matter. I am not after a cheap rifle but good value. Good iron sights and good accuracy is a priority. She is not super strong but she should be able to use the safety and bolt without assistance, in other words easy to use controls. The Cricket did nothing for me. I would like this rifle to go to her Grandchildren. Thanks, Sammy :chris:

Based on your desires I would suggest a CZ Scout.

http://www.cz-usa.com/products/view/cz-452-scout/

Quality, accurate, not too pricey and will last a couple of lifetimes. I have the larger UltraLux and its a beauty and a shooter. She can also take this rifle (The Scout) into adult life. Many adults use it as the perfect squirrel rifle.

RandyD
08-30-2012, 8:17 PM
I bought my daughter a Crickett. I understand why you are not impressed with the Crickett. In my opinion, I could be a better quality rifle, but I can consistently shoot 12 guage shotgun shells with it at 25 yards, which is sufficient accuracy.

SoCal Bob
08-30-2012, 8:31 PM
Henry also makes a youth bolt action rifle: http://www.henryrepeating.com/rifle-minibolt.cfm

Thanks for carrying on the tradition.

justjeff
08-30-2012, 8:37 PM
Chipmunk (http://chipmunkrifles.com/index.php?cPath=26)
I just picked up my boys a couple deluxe chipmunks. I had one when I was a youngster and it was a great rifle. I like the fact they have to load each bullet into the chamber, Then cock it before firing.

They also have 10/22s but they will learn on the chipmunk.


Ages: 3 and -4 months (due in Jan)

Tripper
08-30-2012, 8:40 PM
Pink Cricket

Lol
My daughter is 21 now and won't give up her Pink Cricket

SLYoteBoy
08-30-2012, 8:42 PM
I have too also agree , the cricket is pretty dang accurate. But I ended up buying my unborn daughter a 10/22. Granted I have been "testing and evaluating it" (at least that is what I tell my wife :P). Havent had a problem with it yet , and got it for a good price. Cant wait untill she is old enough to use it.

uxo2
08-30-2012, 8:48 PM
Pink Cricket

Got one..she loves it

rkt88edmo
08-30-2012, 9:00 PM
I have the Savage Rascal on order. The Big5 in Pleasant Hill had one on hand but with the synth stock. I asked my daughter and showed her all the colors and she still opted for wood:) . Very small and handy. My daughter is petite, so small and light is important and while I like the CZ it has quite a bit more barrel weight and costs a good bit more.

Already have the Marlin 795s for when they outgrow the Savages.

roushstage2
08-30-2012, 11:29 PM
I am picking up my 8 y/o daughter's rifle on Monday: a Marlin XT-22YR. It comes with a single-shot adapter, but also accepts standard Marlin magazines. It has Marlin's Micro-Groove rifling and the Pro-Fire Adjustable trigger. Basically the mini-version of my XT-22R that she LOVES to shoot! She would not leave the counter as we were doing the paperwork and actually has been counting down the days until we are allowed to pick them up. It's not quite as small as a Crickett, which is fine with me because it'll last longer (size-wise). It is however, small enough to work for younger children too.

Chaos47
08-30-2012, 11:47 PM
I am picking up my 8 y/o daughter's rifle on Monday: a Marlin XT-22YR. It comes with a single-shot adapter, but also accepts standard Marlin magazines. It has Marlin's Micro-Groove rifling and the Pro-Fire Adjustable trigger. Basically the mini-version of my XT-22R that she LOVES to shoot! She would not leave the counter as we were doing the paperwork and actually has been counting down the days until we are allowed to pick them up. It's not quite as small as a Crickett, which is fine with me because it'll last longer (size-wise). It is however, small enough to work for younger children too.

+1
When you think she is old enough for a semi auto the magazines from the XT also work in the Marlin 795...

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/xt/XTY.asp

roushstage2
08-30-2012, 11:55 PM
+1
When you think she is old enough for a semi auto the magazines from the XT also work in the Marlin 795...

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firearms/xt/XTY.asp
Minor correction. The 7-round magazine that comes with the XT-22 (and I'm assuming the XT-22Y) won't work because they don't have that cutout on the side. However, all of the 10-rounders that work in the 795 also work in the XT-22s. I only buy the 10-round mags as they are the same price as the 7s, so it's no biggie to me. I'm not sure if all the 7-round magazines are like that, but I will check on Monday. They have both the 7-round and 10-round mags there.

Good call regardless on the compatibility on the mags. That was a very nice pro when I decided on the XT-22YR.

Chaos47
08-31-2012, 12:00 AM
Minor correction. The 7-round magazine that comes with the XT-22 (and I'm assuming the XT-22Y) won't work because they don't have that cutout on the side. However, all of the 10-rounders that work in the 795 also work in the XT-22s. I only buy the 10-round mags as they are the same price as the 7s, so it's no biggie to me. I'm not sure if all the 7-round magazines are like that, but I will check on Monday. They have both the 7-round and 10-round mags there.

Good call regardless on the compatibility on the mags. That was a very nice pro when I decided on the XT-22YR.

Thanks, forgot about that the 7's it comes with don't have the cutout groove.

I have seen photos of 7's with the groove wonder why they supply it with the (older style) ones without it...

roushstage2
08-31-2012, 12:19 AM
I just did some looking around and found something about that refers to the cutout being for LSHO? This text was under a picture of what would have been an older Marlin 25N/880 7-round blued magazine: "Original type pictured above before last shot hold open slot was added." Perhaps they are just clearing them out that way since all new autoloaders have the LSHO; a feature that is non-existent on bolt-actions.

Anyways, back on topic for the OP! Sorry for the minor derailment!

MyOdessa
08-31-2012, 11:43 AM
I got my kid Thompson Center Contender with .22 Match barrel and youth stock.

pennys dad
08-31-2012, 11:59 AM
I like:
CZ Scout +1 for this
But I fully agree with Chaos47 as well

evolution1974
08-31-2012, 1:36 PM
I own a number of "youth" long guns in .22lr and handled and shot many others. With your stated requirements coupled with your daughters age, I would highly recommend that you look at a CZ 452 Scout. There are many good youth rifles out there but the CZ Scout is an outstanding gun. At its price point there is no other youth rifle that even comes close to the quality of the receiver, bolt assembly, fit and finish and the adjustable trigger. The only down side is that the Scout does not share the same tangent rear sight as some of the full sized 452 models (Lux, Trainer, Full Stock and Ultra Lux). Other than that, the Scout shares all the same features as the full sized models.

The Scout comes with a single shot adapter that slides into the magazine well so that it can be used as a single shot rifle. There are 5 and 10 round mags that are available separately and both can be used with the Scout. The Beech stock has a shorter length of pull which works well for kids and small framed adults. However, men over 6' have no problems shooting the Scout.

Here is a pic of my youth rifles. Top to bottom, CZ Scout, Mossberg 801 Half Pint, Crickett, TC Hot Shot, Taurus 62 youth.

http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/evolution1974/Youth%20Rifles/73a13ff6.jpg

http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/evolution1974/CZ%20452%20Scout/1271642466.jpg

http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/evolution1974/CZ%20452%20Scout/1271642507.jpg

Here is a comparison of the build quality of the actions. The CZ Scout is very robust. Although the Scout is my favorite, my other rifles have their place depending on purpose and application.

Left to right CZ Scout, Crickett and TC Hot Shot.

http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/evolution1974/Youth%20Rifles/1328860171.jpg

CZ Scout on top and Mossberg Half Pint on bottom.

http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz6/evolution1974/Youth%20Rifles/08e69c76.jpg

Good luck with your decision.

Sennasixty8
08-31-2012, 4:18 PM
Very nice set of choices pictured in this thread!

sammy
08-31-2012, 4:48 PM
Wow, what a wealth of information. Thanks for taking the time. Evolution, great input and photos.

I think the CZ is where I am leaning. I like the single shot to a magazine fed option. How long do you think this length stock will last. She is about average sized so I am thinking till she is about 14-15? There is a standard length stock that the barreled action will drop into? That rifle sounds exactly what I am looking for.


Sammy

evolution1974
09-01-2012, 12:40 AM
Wow, what a wealth of information. Thanks for taking the time. Evolution, great input and photos.

I think the CZ is where I am leaning. I like the single shot to a magazine fed option. How long do you think this length stock will last. She is about average sized so I am thinking till she is about 14-15? There is a standard length stock that the barreled action will drop into? That rifle sounds exactly what I am looking for.


Sammy



No worries. I'm just passing along what I've learned on RFC. As for your question, I'm 5' 8" and I'm still using my Scout with the original stock. However you can contact CZ-USA and purchase a stock from one of the following full sized CZ 452s like the Trainer (Beech), Lux (Walnut), Style/Silhouette (plastic). The Scout barreled action will drop in without having to relieve the stock. Please note that the Scout has one action screw while the above mentioned full sized models have one action screw with another barrel screw attachment point directly underneath the rear tangent sight. So if you place the Scout barreled action into a Trainer stock, you will have an empty hole in the forend of the stock since the Scout does not have a barrel attachment point. You can fill in the hole with a fake screw or just leave it open.

Another option to increase the LOP without replacing the stock would be to add a slip on butt pad. As an FYI, CZ has gradually been replacing the 452 (and 453) with the newer 455 models so get the 452 Scout while you can.

See post 10 in link below to see a Scout in a Trainer stock.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=269539&highlight=Scout+stock

Scout in a Silhouette stock.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=449957&highlight=Scout+stock


Scout with butt pad.

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=433930&highlight=Scout+stock

http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=421757&highlight=Scout+stock

Lurch762
09-01-2012, 12:55 AM
I plan on getting my daughter a Savage Rascal single shot. It has an accutriggger, peep sights and is available in both left hand and right hand. The one thing I like about it over a Chipmunk is it operates more like a full size bolt action. No cocking knob to pull after cycling the bolt.

AR22
09-01-2012, 5:46 AM
I bought a Cricket many years ago for my kids. Still have it, the thing I do not like about it is it is so damn hard to load. I have rather large hands and I have a heck of time getting the round in,it was not much better for them however.

Furncliff
09-01-2012, 8:26 AM
CZ Scout.

Remus
09-02-2012, 1:22 PM
A Henry, a used Winchester gallery gun (pump action), browning SA or T-Bolt, a Marlin 39A, or a CZ-Scout would be my picks for quality firearms that would get passed down the generations.

Sardine
09-02-2012, 5:48 PM
oh no. What you want is a Marlin xt-22-tr I think? It's the nylon stock with a bolt and tube fed. You can't beat the accuracy. Or if you want auto or clip fed that's fine too, but that's what you want.

MiddleKingdom
09-02-2012, 6:09 PM
I basically posted the same question for my 9 y/o girl a few months ago. We ended up picking up a Mossberg Half Pint Plinkster from a Calgunner. I painted the stock purple (per her request) and she's good to go. As long as the rifle fits, the kids seem to be pretty adaptable whether it's bolt action or semi-auto. Our older boys learned on a 10/22, Model 60 and 39A.

thenodnarb
09-02-2012, 6:14 PM
I have a CZ 513. Cheaper than the 452 but EXTREMELY accurate.
I THINK I paid $300 Maybe less but that was several years ago.
It has a simplified trigger, but with a little work you can lighten it up and smooth it. I basically added a spacer to the trigger which reduces sear engagement. Don't go too far or it will become unsafe.
Its a perfect 1st timers gun.
THe only down side to CZ is the cost of the magazines and the cost of the scope rings. But if you stick with one mag(why not?) and teach her to shoot open sights its not a problem.

jm13690
09-02-2012, 6:17 PM
The CZ 22 with a hogback stock. Youd have that thing forever.

Topahi
09-02-2012, 10:35 PM
My Daughter is 8 and just got her first rifle... A Marlin XT-22 YSR. It's the perfect size size for her. The bolt action allows for concentrated shooting and the 10 round magazines keeps her shooting for a while. And also, the trigger is outstanding!

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Ron-Solo
09-03-2012, 12:32 AM
Don't underestimate the Crickett as a starter rifle. All three of my grandkids have Cricketts. They also have 10/22's waiting for them in my safe when they get bigger.

My 9 year old grandson prefers his Crickett over his 10/22 or my M&P 15-22. It fits him better and he hits what he's aiming at. My 6 year old granddaughter is able to work her Crickett by herself and is getting pretty good with it.

http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww350/rdmelton1956/photo-38.jpg

Her results at about 25 yards:

http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww350/rdmelton1956/photo-39.jpg

My Grandson has it figured out:

http://i734.photobucket.com/albums/ww350/rdmelton1956/photo-40.jpg

dangerranger
09-03-2012, 6:59 AM
We have a chipmunk [early version of the cricket], Marlin 15, and Marlin Papoose. When my boys were young [ they range from 38 to 23 now] they didn't have the arm strength to hold up a full size rifle till they were 12 or 13 years old. Once I found the Papoose that's the one they all wanted to shoot. And the one all the grand kids want to shoot as well. It is a semi auto but it has a full size feel in a very compact and light weight package. Its had a lot of use since I got it in the 80s and Im thinking of updating it with a Boyds Evolution stock. DR

sammy
09-03-2012, 7:11 AM
Thanks for posting folks. This was one of the more difficult firearm choices I have made. After shopping around I got a CZ 452 Scout at Buds for about $300.00 shipped. My daughter is not mature enough for it yet but her 8th birthday is in Febuary. If it works out she will receive the rifle then.

Calguns rocks, Sammy

Remus
09-03-2012, 5:01 PM
Excellent choice.

Izzy43
09-03-2012, 5:13 PM
Sammy you made a great choice. The CZ will last for generations. Great quality and accuracy. I want to be buried with my CZ UltraLux.

evolution1974
09-03-2012, 7:31 PM
Good to hear. The CZ Scout will serve you well and the memories of you and your daughter create at the range will last a lifetime. Beware the Scout was my first CZ but not the last.

OssaMar
09-03-2012, 7:36 PM
Stevens 87A you can use as a bolt action or as a semi auto. Mine is a tack driver and out shots any 10/22 allday long.

roushstage2
09-03-2012, 7:57 PM
Congrats! Nice choice on the rifle ;)

TrailerparkTrash
09-04-2012, 10:20 AM
I'm giving my son his first gun next week for his b-day. It is a Winchester Model-60 in .22LR, made in 1933, which my grand father bought new. It's a single shot bolt action with a fine rubbed oil walnut stock with amazingly excellent blue steel finish. My grandfather handed it down to my dad in 1940. My dad gave it to me when I turned 10 and now my son gets it! It's a tack driver and has killed many a jack rabbits!

Gothboy
09-04-2012, 10:31 AM
when my sister and I reached about 10 my dad bought us each a rossi .22 pump action gallery gun. We both highly value those guns to this day and continue to range them with no problems. Always a fun shoot. :) Great idea OP!

FX-05 Xiuhcoatl
09-04-2012, 10:42 AM
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desertjosh
09-04-2012, 11:41 AM
I can't wait until my daughter is old enough to shoot! She just turned 6 months so I have a ways to go still. Good job dads/grandparents!

secret.asian.man
09-05-2012, 5:03 PM
Ruger 10/22 or another in this exact configuration. stainless barrel because the black ones are painted and paint can chip, under that paint is a bare metal barrel that could rust. synthetic stock because it is harder for a kid to destroy than a wood stock.

http://www.larryssg.com/images/products/950x450/ruger-10-22-22-lr-synthetic-stock-stainless-steal-finish.jpg

Hdawg
09-06-2012, 8:22 PM
I had the same dilemma. I wanted to get my 10 year old son his first 22 for Christmas. Of all the youth guns out there, the CZ Scout is the highest quality for the money. I put a deposit on one today at Alquist Arms in Turlock. Price was 288 plus tax. Dros was free because they also have a S&W MP 15-22 of mine I haven't picked up yet :D
I'm waiting to start the DROS. I wonder how many other long guns I can find before December. Is there a limit to how many rifles I can DROS at once?

roushstage2
09-06-2012, 8:38 PM
I had the same dilemma. I wanted to get my 10 year old son his first 22 for Christmas. Of all the youth guns out there, the CZ Scout is the highest quality for the money. I put a deposit on one today at Alquist Arms in Turlock. Price was 288 plus tax. Dros was free because they also have a S&W MP 15-22 of mine I haven't picked up yet :D
I'm waiting to start the DROS. I wonder how many other long guns I can find before December. Is there a limit to how many rifles I can DROS at once?
99 long guns, IIRC.

USMC 82-86
09-10-2012, 5:20 PM
Ruger 10/22 or another in this exact configuration. stainless barrel because the black ones are painted and paint can chip, under that paint is a bare metal barrel that could rust. synthetic stock because it is harder for a kid to destroy than a wood stock.

http://www.larryssg.com/images/products/950x450/ruger-10-22-22-lr-synthetic-stock-stainless-steal-finish.jpg

This is the exact model I bought my 12 year old daughter today. I got it at Turners in FV for $239.00. She has been shooting with me for a little over a year now and loves shooting. My other 3 kids are grown and still enjoy shooting and hunting. The Ruger 10/22 is a sweet gun.