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SDRider858
08-30-2012, 4:04 PM
Alright here is my situation. I currently have the option to pick up two 75b SA or 75b SA and a P01 (all 9mm). What would you do?

My original plan was to get both SA models and keep one stock and send the other to CZcustoms for a full work over, but then I started to think if I would be better off just getting one of each model to expand my collection. Does someone out there have both? I would appreciate some feedback on pros and cons of the P01 compared to the SAO. I have a SP01 and a standard 75b but have never handled a compact model.

Primary use would be for the range. I know im probably being vague, but happy to provide more info to solicit input.

My two current CZ's
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/JdubbSD/cz.jpg

Euphoria526
08-30-2012, 4:07 PM
Get 2 SA's!!!

Euphoria526
08-30-2012, 4:07 PM
Are they both 9mm?

JeremyS
08-30-2012, 4:16 PM
Whatever you go with, send it to Cajun Gun Works for the custom stuff... unless you're going crazy and getting into machine work and whatnot. Trigger/sear/hammer/springs send it to CGW.

zfields
08-30-2012, 4:25 PM
One of both, and a big +1 to CGW>

Euphoria526
08-30-2012, 4:27 PM
Either way sounds like a good deal to me!!

SDRider858
08-30-2012, 4:31 PM
Are they both 9mm?
Yes they are both 9mm

Whatever you go with, send it to Cajun Gun Works for the custom stuff... unless you're going crazy and getting into machine work and whatnot. Trigger/sear/hammer/springs send it to CGW.

I keep hearing about CGW, are they any cheaper? I figure shipping to Louisanna might be more expensive compared to Arizona where CZcustoms is. Also, can I get the same single action trigger and hammer installed that CZ customs carries as aftermarket?

One of both, and a big +1 to CGW>

Zfields I always appreciate your feedback considering you have much more experience with this platform then I. Im just wondering if I will end up regretting getting the P01. I have never been a huge fan of polymer compact guns, but maybe this being an alloy frame it might be different. Is the SP01 accuracy and the P01 comparable?

asgalindez
08-30-2012, 4:42 PM
I have 2 75B SA's. Both 9mm. One is bone stock + factory rubber grips. The other was sent to CZCustom for a full work over.

If someone (CZ-USA) would come out with a P01 with the frame set up like a 75B SA (SAO with safety) it would be top of my to-buy list.

zfields
08-30-2012, 4:50 PM
Zfields I always appreciate your feedback considering you have much more experience with this platform then I. Im just wondering if I will end up regretting getting the P01. I have never been a huge fan of polymer compact guns, but maybe this being an alloy frame it might be different. Is the SP01 accuracy and the P01 comparable?

Don't mistake me posting a lot with knowledge : )

I don't own a p01, just no reason to for me personally, its not small enough for me to CCW, and I'd rather shoot a sp01 for competition. I can say just from handling and shooting a couple that they really don't feel like a poly gun, and are very comfortable guns.

As for CGW: You can either send the gun in, or buy the kit and do it yourself. Going the kit route is a VERY good way to learn your gun inside and out, and saves you a lot of money. Either way, David from CGW is a great person to talk to, and makes some *very* high quality parts for a very good price. The p01 is a bit of a PITA to work on due to the decocker, but its still manageable. The link in my sig line will cover disassembly and reassembly of it. The 75 SA out of the box is a GREAT gun, and unless you want a very light trigger, is GTG. Swapping over the hammer and to an adjustable sear just makes it even better.

SDRider858
08-30-2012, 5:12 PM
I have 2 75B SA's. Both 9mm. One is bone stock + factory rubber grips. The other was sent to CZCustom for a full work over.

If someone (CZ-USA) would come out with a P01 with the frame set up like a 75B SA (SAO with safety) it would be top of my to-buy list.

This is what I was thinking, two SA's, having a stock one to compare, especially if out of the box they are pretty darn good. Glad to see your from SD too :)

Don't mistake me posting a lot with knowledge : )

I don't own a p01, just no reason to for me personally, its not small enough for me to CCW, and I'd rather shoot a sp01 for competition. I can say just from handling and shooting a couple that they really don't feel like a poly gun, and are very comfortable guns.

As for CGW: You can either send the gun in, or buy the kit and do it yourself. Going the kit route is a VERY good way to learn your gun inside and out, and saves you a lot of money. Either way, David from CGW is a great person to talk to, and makes some *very* high quality parts for a very good price. The p01 is a bit of a PITA to work on due to the decocker, but its still manageable. The link in my sig line will cover disassembly and reassembly of it. The 75 SA out of the box is a GREAT gun, and unless you want a very light trigger, is GTG. Swapping over the hammer and to an adjustable sear just makes it even better.

Thanks Zfields...still more knowledgable than I haha..

I think Ill try doing the CGW mods on my 75b, and if it works out well do the same for my SP01 too.

I still cant decide what I would like. Considering maybe picking up these two SAs since they arent always around, and picking up a P01 next chance I have. I seem to be changing my mind every 5 minutes.

zfields
08-30-2012, 5:20 PM
75B/75SA are easy compared to the decocker models.

1911Operator
08-30-2012, 5:23 PM
i always liked the P01's!

TripleThreat
08-30-2012, 5:41 PM
...Zfields I always appreciate your feedback considering you have much more experience with this platform then I. Im just wondering if I will end up regretting getting the P01. I have never been a huge fan of polymer compact guns, but maybe this being an alloy frame it might be different. Is the SP01 accuracy and the P01 comparable?

I'll say this. I have a SP-01 and a P-01. I love them both. But I must be missing something as ploy guns and alloy guns are as different as night and day.

The P-01 is a smaller, lighter version of the SP-01. If you'd like to have a lighter smaller version of the SP-01 then that makes sense (the P-01 just adds a de-cocker). The P-01 is very, very accurate. I prefer the P series weapons over the older 75 series guns since they are a more modern design built to CZ's newer standards and updated. I also prefer to have a light rail on weapons I may use for HD.

Hope this helps,

Triple

sephy
08-30-2012, 6:15 PM
I was going back and forth between the P01 and the SA. I ended up going with the P01 because it felt better in my hand. Many thousands of rounds later I am still very happy with my decision.

Euphoria526
08-30-2012, 7:01 PM
Op- if your ever in Los Angeles hit me up, you can shoot my
P01 if your ever up here!!

willerfortheworld
08-30-2012, 7:07 PM
P-01 all the way. Its a tad smaller but just as accurate as the full size 75b's.
But, eather way your golden.

Why buy a glock, drive a Honda, and drink budlight when you can buy a cz, drive a Subaru and drink heineken?

SDRider858
08-30-2012, 7:45 PM
But I must be missing something as ploy guns and alloy guns are as different as night and day.
Hope this helps,
Triple

Thanks Triple, it actually did help. I re-read what I wrote and I apologize for even putting the two in the same category as they are very different. The Alloy seems to be a good compromise between steel/polymer. But again, I wish I could see one in person.

Question for P01 owners, does your pinky/ring finger(s) hang off the grip? Or are you able to still grip with all fingers? Im assuming its the former.

Euphoria526
08-30-2012, 7:48 PM
I have pretty big hands and I dot have an issue with it, unless I think about it lol. If I just draw and shoot it fits like a glove lol. No issues whatsoever.

SDRider858
08-30-2012, 7:52 PM
75B/75SA are easy compared to the decocker models.

Looking at the potential savings has me thinking seriously about doing most if not all the work myself. Im confident working with my hands. Ill be sure to refer to some of your videos before even attempting. Ill let you know how it works out, fingers crossed.

Op- if your ever in Los Angeles hit me up, you can shoot my
P01 if your ever up here!!

And this is why the gun community is bad ***. Euphoria the same goes for you, if your ever in SD and I can return the favor let me know. Ill probably just end up buying one because Im a proud CZ whore (whore = 10x fanboy)


Why buy a glock, drive a Honda, and drink budlight when you can buy a cz, drive a Subaru and drink heineken?

This still has me sratching my head..not sure what you mean but I dig it...Cheers! :D

Euphoria526
08-30-2012, 7:56 PM
Same I'm a CZ whore as well. I want an sp01.
You won't regret the p01, it's an awesome little compact. Shot a small target at about 50 yds away at the rifle range. Plunked that sucker haha

TripleThreat
08-30-2012, 7:59 PM
...Question for P01 owners, does your pinky/ring finger(s) hang off the grip? Or are you able to still grip with all fingers? Im assuming its the former.

The P-01 is bigger than a small frame Glock by about 1/2" in length and the handgrip is just under 1" taller. So if you've held a baby Glock it's pretty much right between a small Glock and a full size Glock and as such, just about anyone could grip it with their entire hand.

Triple

daybreak
08-30-2012, 8:03 PM
two 75 SAs, because that's what I did this week!

And definitely recommend either CGW or CZ Custom. I have guns from both, and can't go wrong with either.

David from CGW is AWESOME. I stop by his shop in West Monroe, LA about once a week to either drop my own pistols off or a friend's, and it's always good times talking to David. His race hammers and his new sights are freaking beautiful.

willerfortheworld
08-30-2012, 8:09 PM
Any fellow Cz lover is a friend of mine SD. Same go's with me, I have a range about one min from my house. If your ever near Fresno around highway 99 let me know and you can shoot my p-01. Lmk

SDRider858
08-31-2012, 8:40 AM
The P-01 is bigger than a small frame Glock by about 1/2" in length and the handgrip is just under 1" taller. So if you've held a baby Glock it's pretty much right between a small Glock and a full size Glock and as such, just about anyone could grip it with their entire hand.

Triple

Thanks for the great info. This has me feeling better about going with a P01. I have an XDm compact and without pearce grip extensions my pinky dangles off, hate that.


two 75 SAs, because that's what I did this week!

And definitely recommend either CGW or CZ Custom. I have guns from both, and can't go wrong with either.
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Didnt you just get two shadows?? Jealous for sure!

[QUOTE=willerfortheworld;9236151]Any fellow Cz lover is a friend of mine SD. Same go's with me, I have a range about one min from my house. If your ever near Fresno around highway 99 let me know and you can shoot my p-01. Lmk

Thanks! I feel the CZ love in the air haha......appreciate the offer very much.

Alright so my dreams of having a modded CZcustoms SA is out of the question, at least for now. I was just informed by the shop that they will not modify the trigger system prior to shipping. Strange, because I have read of cases where this wasnt true, but has anyone else been denied modifications? Stuart said I would need to re ship back to them to have most of the work done, all they were willing to change were the sights. I was trying to save on shipping and that was the entire reason of buying one through them..Ah well, their shop, their rules.

But that makes the choice pretty easy for me. Since Ill have to either ship or do the work myself on my current SA, I think its probably best just to get the P01 and expand my CZ collection...or should I get a 97b!!! mmmm hahaha

Thanks again all for the input.

SDRider858
08-31-2012, 8:41 AM
The P-01 is bigger than a small frame Glock by about 1/2" in length and the handgrip is just under 1" taller. So if you've held a baby Glock it's pretty much right between a small Glock and a full size Glock and as such, just about anyone could grip it with their entire hand.

Triple

Thanks for the great info. This has me feeling better about going with a P01. I have an XDm compact and without pearce grip extensions my pinky dangles off, hate that.


two 75 SAs, because that's what I did this week!

And definitely recommend either CGW or CZ Custom. I have guns from both, and can't go wrong with either.

Didnt you just get two shadows?? Jealous for sure!

Any fellow Cz lover is a friend of mine SD. Same go's with me, I have a range about one min from my house. If your ever near Fresno around highway 99 let me know and you can shoot my p-01. Lmk

Thanks! I feel the CZ love in the air haha......appreciate the offer very much.

Alright so my dreams of having a modded CZcustoms SA is out of the question, at least for now. I was just informed by the shop that they will not modify the trigger system prior to shipping. Strange, because I have read of cases where this wasnt true, but has anyone else been denied modifications in CA? Stuart said I would need to re ship back to them to have most of the work done, all they were willing to change were the sights. I was trying to save on shipping and that was the entire reason of buying one through them..Ah well, their shop, their rules.

But that makes the choice pretty easy for me. Since Ill have to either ship or do the work myself on my current SA, I think its probably best just to get the P01 and expand my CZ collection...or should I get a 97b!!! mmmm hahaha

Thanks again all for the input.

Euphoria526
08-31-2012, 8:54 AM
I'd say get a p01 over a 97b

SDRider858
08-31-2012, 11:07 AM
Are the sights on the P01 the same as the SP01 standard model with tru-dot glow sights? Or are they like the standard 75b?

asgalindez
08-31-2012, 11:46 AM
Alright so my dreams of having a modded CZcustoms SA is out of the question, at least for now. I was just informed by the shop that they will not modify the trigger system prior to shipping. Strange, because I have read of cases where this wasnt true, but has anyone else been denied modifications in CA? Stuart said I would need to re ship back to them to have most of the work done, all they were willing to change were the sights. I was trying to save on shipping and that was the entire reason of buying one through them..Ah well, their shop, their rules.

But that makes the choice pretty easy for me. Since Ill have to either ship or do the work myself on my current SA, I think its probably best just to get the P01 and expand my CZ collection...or should I get a 97b!!! mmmm hahaha

Thanks again all for the input.

If you have a 75B SA already and still want another one, consider this:

It's my understanding that CZCustoms won't (and shouldn't) do any major modifications to the gun because it would no longer be in a CA-roster approved configuration.

What you could do is order the new SA and keep it as the "bone-stock" configuration. You still get the joy of breaking in a new firearm.

You then ship out your currently owned SA via Gussler's. My first SA had +10k rounds through it by then so it deserved a makeover (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=415690). I just dug up my invoice of when I shipped mine out...transfer and shipping + insurance came out to under $60.

zfields
08-31-2012, 11:48 AM
If you have a 75B SA already and still want another one, consider this:

It's my understanding that CZCustoms won't (and shouldn't) do any major modifications to the gun because it would no longer be in a CA-roster approved configuration.

What you could do is order the new SA and keep it as the "bone-stock" configuration. You still get the joy of breaking in a new firearm.

You then ship out your currently owned SA via Gussler's. My first SA had +10k rounds through it by then so it deserved a makeover (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=415690). I just dug up my invoice of when I shipped mine out...transfer and shipping + insurance came out to under $60.

Which barrel did you have installed?

asgalindez
08-31-2012, 11:56 AM
Which barrel did you have installed?

Just another factory standard length barrel. I considered one of the 6" extended barrels but it wasn't in stock at the time.

zfields
08-31-2012, 11:57 AM
Just another factory standard length barrel. I considered one of the 6" extended barrels but it wasn't in stock at the time.

Ahh gotcha. I'd like to pick up a extended threaded for a sp01 one of these days

:43:

asgalindez
08-31-2012, 12:04 PM
Ahh gotcha. I'd like to pick up a extended threaded for a sp01 one of these days

:43:

Suppressed SP01? That would be fun! All that weight should suck up the recoil.

zfields
08-31-2012, 12:06 PM
Suppressed SP01? That would be fun! All that weight should suck up the recoil.

Wonder if I can find one that would work with a 357 lever gun...that would be interesting.

oghl888
08-31-2012, 12:07 PM
Are the sights on the P01 the same as the SP01 standard model with tru-dot glow sights? Or are they like the standard 75b?


the sights on my P01 are not night sights as they are on the SP01. They have a green paint dot instead of tritium glow in the dark.

If you only use it for the range, the SA is a better choice. The P01 is a compact and as such shoots with more recoil. While not unmanageable, it's more tiring and feels different than a full size steel CZ. The decock lever is where my thumb wants to be also.


Another suggestion for you is go up to the competition models instead of 2 regular production model. I tried one with a 2.5 lb trigger and it's awesome.

asgalindez
08-31-2012, 12:12 PM
Wonder if I can find one that would work with a 357 lever gun...that would be interesting.

I just had a weird mental visualization:

Will Hayden: We gotta soo-press this here levah akshun .357 for a guy...

Rich Wyatt: Then we're gonna replace the receiver with one made of titanium and have some engraving done by my son Kurt...

Will Hayden: And this gamechanger of a rifle can be had...

Rich Wyatt: For around...$10k.

GuillermoAntonio
08-31-2012, 12:19 PM
Are the sights on the P01 the same as the SP01 standard model with tru-dot glow sights? Or are they like the standard 75b?

IIRC, they are the same.
If you do get the p01, please let me know, I really want to try one, I would take you shooting, ill take care of the entry fees at DGM
Also, I just dros'ed a RAMI 2075, will take possesion next thursday.
(In case you want to try another CZ)

zfields
08-31-2012, 12:21 PM
I just had a weird mental visualization:

Will Hayden: We gotta soo-press this here levah akshun .357 for a guy...

Rich Wyatt: Then we're gonna replace the receiver with one made of titanium and have some engraving done by my son Kurt...

Will Hayden: And this gamechanger of a rifle can be had...

Rich Wyatt: For around...$10k.

Don't even joke around like that. Ruining the beautiful picture in my mind.

zfields
08-31-2012, 12:22 PM
IIRC, they are the same.
If you do get the p01, please let me know, I really want to try one, I would take you shooting, ill take care of the entry fees at DGM
Also, I just dros'ed a RAMI 2075, will take possesion next thursday.
(In case you want to try another CZ)

Bastard. Post some pictures of the grip comparison with the sp01 will ya?

GuillermoAntonio
08-31-2012, 12:23 PM
Oh yeah and I do own an SP-01 Shadow that you can try as well.

Lead Waster
08-31-2012, 12:29 PM
If you have a 75B SA already and still want another one, consider this:

It's my understanding that CZCustoms won't (and shouldn't) do any major modifications to the gun because it would no longer be in a CA-roster approved configuration.

What you could do is order the new SA and keep it as the "bone-stock" configuration. You still get the joy of breaking in a new firearm.

You then ship out your currently owned SA via Gussler's. My first SA had +10k rounds through it by then so it deserved a makeover (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=415690). I just dug up my invoice of when I shipped mine out...transfer and shipping + insurance came out to under $60.

Is this true only for guns you buy from them and get customized before they sell it to you OR is it true for guns you SEND to them that you already own.

I thought that once a CA resident owns a gun, you can mail it to any gunsmith and that gunsmith can mail it back directly to you? (might be FUD) and that FFL was only required when ownership changed hands?

Maybe try David at CGW, I wouldn't hesitate sending him a gun if he could send it back to me without an FFL involved.

asgalindez
08-31-2012, 12:38 PM
Is this true only for guns you buy from them and get customized before they sell it to you OR is it true for guns you SEND to them that you already own.

I thought that once a CA resident owns a gun, you can mail it to any gunsmith and that gunsmith can mail it back directly to you? (might be FUD) and that FFL was only required when ownership changed hands?

Maybe try David at CGW, I wouldn't hesitate sending him a gun if he could send it back to me without an FFL involved.

Guns can only be shipped if on the approved roster. If you modify it before taking initial possession of it, then Single Shot Exemption rules apply.

Once you own the gun, you can modify it and ship it to a gunsmith for more work.

When I shipped my gun to CZCustoms, I used Gussler's because he is used to shipping and receiving guns, and Gussler's takes responsibility if anything happens to it. And it was cheap!

SDRider858
08-31-2012, 2:24 PM
Just came back from visitng my SA in jail....whoa, that trigger is not bad at all, and borders pretty darn good IMO. Would not mind having two of them at all to tinker with. The trigger, extended beavertail, and mag release are a nice touch.

Euphoria526
08-31-2012, 2:25 PM
Oh yeah. I bought my SA used and it is smexy as all hell!!!

SDRider858
08-31-2012, 2:29 PM
Guns can only be shipped if on the approved roster. If you modify it before taking initial possession of it, then Single Shot Exemption rules apply.

Once you own the gun, you can modify it and ship it to a gunsmith for more work.

When I shipped my gun to CZCustoms, I used Gussler's because he is used to shipping and receiving guns, and Gussler's takes responsibility if anything happens to it. And it was cheap!

Gusslers is great, and not too far off in Santee. Thanks for the tip I have used them for PPT but never to ship.

SDRider858
08-31-2012, 5:52 PM
:tt1:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/JdubbSD/CZSA.png

markw
08-31-2012, 9:38 PM
Yup, czcustom would only swap sights on the gun. I ended up ordering the cgw race hammer and other parts while I was waiting for my SP01. If you're thinking of doing the mods yourself, it's not hard and can be done with basic tools. I've got the CGW kit 3 on my 75B, and the race hammer in my SP01 with a second race hammer sitting here in the bag for my 97B.

smittty
09-01-2012, 8:26 AM
:tt1:
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a79/JdubbSD/CZSA.png


Congrats, I have a few CZ's and I think you made the right choice.

You can work on that gun yourself and the only thing I'd do is get the comp hammer. It's easy swap but the safety will need to be adjusted. Pretty easy imo and not something that warrents shipping to a gunsmith.

strikergirl
10-04-2012, 1:26 AM
Is there any place in CA to buy a CZ 75B SA?

DCF
10-04-2012, 4:39 AM
You have to check around. I was looking for one and the shops around my area just never have a 75B SA in stock. I got lazy and found one out of state from a dealer recently. Just look for a FFL around your area to transfer the gun at a reasonable price.

Czsp-01-9mm
10-04-2012, 9:14 AM
So who does better work CGW or cz custom shop

Lead Waster
10-04-2012, 11:44 AM
A fellow shooter just installed the Comp Hammer for me (I'm too lazy/busy) and it is great! Removes that camming on the trigger pull!

I also have the CZCustom Flat trigger (It has pretravel adjustments) but I think it was part of a bad batch so I have to send it in to get replaced (The holes in the trigger are too small to fit the trigger pins). But once I get that, it should be very nice, with no pretravel.