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tombinghamthegreat
08-30-2012, 2:53 PM
Looking for a reliable basic 1911 to buy. Any suggestions?

Jack L
08-30-2012, 2:56 PM
KIMBER............ USA built, great quality bang for the $

DVSmith
08-30-2012, 2:59 PM
Springfield Armory Loaded. Good value. Solid gun.

http://www.springfield-armory.com/armory.php?model=8

InGrAM
08-30-2012, 3:05 PM
By "basic" I am assuming you are talking about a no frills model.

Remington
RIA
Kimber
SA
Colt

All make a pretty basic model in the 1911 market.

Press Check
08-30-2012, 3:26 PM
The Springfield Mil-Spec is a great basic pistol / base platform.

JackRydden224
08-30-2012, 3:28 PM
What's your budget?

I have to add Auto-Ordnance to the list. They make some WII looking no frill very basic series 70 1911 GI

sholling
08-30-2012, 3:32 PM
Springfield Armory "Loaded" or a Smith & Wesson SW1911. Unlike Kimber they have enough faith in their products to include a lifetime warranty and offer world class customer service instead of Jersey 'tude. Both have all of the features that you'll eventually want like a beaver tail grip safety and good sights at far less cost than adding them later.

acolytes
08-30-2012, 3:46 PM
If you don't care about fancy stuff or aesthetics, RIA. Could be had for under $500. Mine has been uber reliable thus far.

gti_20ae
08-30-2012, 3:56 PM
Basic - I would go with SA GI or Mil Spec, the only reason why I could choose that over RIA is because of the higher resale value. 1911 is pretty addictive, chances are you would want to upgrade.

A little better - Then I would go with Kimber Custom II, SA loaded model are nice too, but I just have better luck with Kimber. You can't go wrong with either.

Brandon04GT
08-30-2012, 3:59 PM
I honestly think the SA Mil-spec is the best basic 1911 and a good base model to work on later on if you choose. Maybe the OP can tell us what his budget is and if there are any features hes seen in pictures that he knows he will want. For a couple hundred more, you can get the SA Loaded model which is....loaded with features lol.

Press Check
08-30-2012, 4:01 PM
Basic - I would go with SA GI or Mil Spec, the only reason why I could choose that over RIA is because of the higher resale value. 1911 is pretty addictive, chances are you would want to upgrade.


That's why I always recommend the Mil-Spec to those that are new to the 1911 platform. Upgrading doesn't necessarily mean another pistol. Some of the the finest custom builds that I have seen were built on the Mil-Spec platform.

t0kie
08-30-2012, 4:01 PM
If you have a chance to try some of your friends that would be great, or rent them from some ranges that doing the rental, then go from there. As others have mentioned, what's your budget?

hkdad
08-30-2012, 4:04 PM
Springfield, STI or Infinity if you have $$$ to blow.

WootSauce
08-30-2012, 4:39 PM
Rock Island Armory Tactical ~$475 +Tax and DROS

can't beat it for "value for money"

pontiacpratt
08-30-2012, 5:03 PM
What's your budget?

I have to add Auto-Ordnance to the list. They make some WII looking no frill very basic series 70 1911 GI
The A-O's are series 80, or at least mine is. I paid $350 used for mine
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o158/figgie1/jasonstuff/1911.jpg

ChaneRZ
08-30-2012, 5:13 PM
RIA or Springfield

tombinghamthegreat
08-30-2012, 7:50 PM
around 600 dollars is the max. I was thinking of a RIA but heard mix things about them. How much can i get a Mil-Spec(new or used)?

Brandon04GT
08-30-2012, 7:52 PM
Hmm would you also have money aside for cleaning stuff (if you don't have that already) and ammo and etc.? If you're budget is $600 just for the gun, then a Springfield Mil-Spec can usually be had for around $650 plus tax and fees. Most Springfield 1911's have been hard to find lately, though.

Horton Fenty
08-30-2012, 8:01 PM
600 for a 1911 is not much. At least not a new one. Anytime someone says they want a basic 1911 I always think Colt.

tombinghamthegreat
08-30-2012, 8:01 PM
If you're budget is $600 just for the gun, then a Springfield Mil-Spec can usually be had for around $650 plus tax and fees. Most Springfield 1911's have been hard to find lately, though.

is that for a new one?

Brandon04GT
08-30-2012, 8:02 PM
is that for a new one?

Yeah. Used ones that come up are typically not that much cheaper either.

Shapes And Colors
08-30-2012, 8:20 PM
Unless you're picking up a RIA or a very good deal on a used Springfield, I would wait on a 1911. They're pricy pistols and you get what you pay for. Your current budget for it is just barely in the bottom end of the spectrum. Wait until you can afford what you really want.

willerfortheworld
08-30-2012, 8:35 PM
S.A. mil spec, para ordnance.. basic 1911 with great quality.

Omil
08-30-2012, 8:50 PM
Looking for a reliable basic 1911 to buy. Any suggestions?

Budget?

C.W.M.V.
08-30-2012, 9:09 PM
around 600 dollars is the max. I was thinking of a RIA but heard mix things about them. How much can i get a Mil-Spec(new or used)?

Please post where you have seen bad things about the RIA.
Ive just never seen anything bad about them.

acolytes
08-30-2012, 9:30 PM
Please post where you have seen bad things about the RIA.
Ive just never seen anything bad about them.

I was thinking the same thing. Only negatives I've heard about them was people complaining that the finish wasn't as pretty as the high end 1911's and what not. But then again, they are almost half the price, so what do they expect?

Rightwinger
08-30-2012, 9:53 PM
Rock Island Armory Tactical ~$475 +Tax and DROS

can't beat it for "value for money"

+1 Concur

http://i85.photobucket.com/albums/k65/tirefryin66/20120823_184355.jpg

Brandon04GT
08-30-2012, 10:55 PM
I think the RIA is good value for the money but if you know you like 1911's and want something you can "grow into" then I think the SA Mil-Spec is a much better option. I feel that the RIA's are good for peeps who already have several 1911's and just want a cheap/fun plinking gun, and/or want to have a go at first time gunsmithing and/or want to try the 1911 platform for cheap.

C.W.M.V.
08-31-2012, 6:33 AM
What I can't figure out is why.
I've owned and shot a variety of 1911's, and for the life if me I don't see the advantage if getting one of the above guns.
Metallurgy? Not really an issue to me.
Accuracy? I'm sure they are more accurate but a pistol is only effective to a certain range anyway.
Finish? I don't care about pretty, I care about function.
Fit? Tight is bad. When your weapon is zo tight you need a tool to take it apart that's a bad thing.

Damiiaaannn
08-31-2012, 7:30 AM
Why basic? Save some more and get something nicer.

chevystepside73
09-14-2012, 7:56 PM
i have a ww2 gi auto ordance. i think its a great gun thats made in america. i paid 620.00 all taxes and fees included.

Meety Peety
09-14-2012, 8:11 PM
I care about function.
Fit? Tight is bad. When your weapon is zo tight you need a tool to take it apart that's a bad thing.
I lol'd. Do yourself a favor and go research the role fitment plays in a 1911's accuracy, reliability and function. Not to mention overall longevity and life of the gun's guts. What you said is about as retarded as saying you like to keep the wheels on your car a bit loose to aid with turning.

To the OP, if you're absolutely set on getting a 1911 now with your current budget, I'd probably go with a SA GI. If you can hold off (I know its hard) you can find a pretty decent 1911 listed here used from time to time. I see a lot of SA loaded and trophy matches go for cheap here, but timing would be the key.

Shapes And Colors
09-14-2012, 8:15 PM
I lol'd. Do yourself a favor and go research the role fitment plays in a 1911's accuracy, reliability and function. Not to mention overall longevity and life of the gun's guts. What you said is about as retarded as saying you like to keep the wheels on your car a bit loose to aid with turning.

To the OP, if you're absolutely set on getting a 1911 now with your current budget, I'd probably go with a SA GI. If you can hold off (I know its hard) you can find a pretty decent 1911 listed here used from time to time. I see a lot of SA loaded and trophy matches go for cheap here, but timing would be the key.

What about the war era colts that rattled like a spray paint can?

slo5oh
09-14-2012, 8:16 PM
+1 more vote for a RIA. Imho the only reason to get a GI over the Tactical is because you like the look better. Ive shot others, a springfield and a para. You do get what you pay for, maybe not how you think though, both the more expensive guns felt better, shot smoother, like butter... It was love at first trigger pull with the para I shot, but not for the $1100 price tag. I love my RIA tac now though, it feels good, shoots perfect and as with any 1911 I have some plans for it. ;)

bombadillo
09-14-2012, 8:18 PM
Another for Rock Island Tactical. Their target is even nicer IMO with the bo-mar style sights and all, but they're really hard to screw up. I've never heard a bad comment about them.

Meety Peety
09-14-2012, 8:47 PM
What about the war era colts that rattled like a spray paint can?Even the ford pinto drove off the lot. Many rattled, many didn't. Many were just poorly produced because of high demands and the budget restrictions of war. Many were slammed together mutts that had been rearsenaled. Many were mistreated or used as something other than a hand gun. Alas, many of them were fantastic guns. If the question is simply "Will it shoot?" - the answer is pretty much yes with most any gun. Just because it shoots doesn't mean it does so in the most effective way possible or that it will last as long as something that was produced with better quality. So if I had one sentence to answer your question, it would be this. War era Colts made the Remington Rand famous.

Sunday
09-15-2012, 12:18 PM
What about the war era colts that rattled like a spray paint can?I have a WWII surplus 1911 that is a very tight gun that shoots well and the barrel was throated by someone that actually knows how to do it and the 1911 feeds anything that fits in the magazine,,,No MIM parts.

bombadillo
09-15-2012, 5:42 PM
What about the war era colts that rattled like a spray paint can?


http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l122/bombadillo08/calguns%20and%20other/101_1507.jpg




Like this! :D I got this for about 600 bucks. I want to switch the trigger back to a factory trigger, but nothing really has been played with. Its all factory minus the trigger. Once its put back to stock, it'll be worth more and its just a cool rattle trap gun. Shoots 95% of my Dan Wesson too. Old rattle traps are still plenty accurate at 30-50' or so.

Josh3239
09-15-2012, 6:17 PM
RIA makes a good entry level 1911. Their earliest models sucked, the newer ones are made much better. They still use lots of MIM, as do most 1911 manufacturers. QC is still a bit spotty, chances are you aren't going to get a bad one but they do slip by. I have seen a bnib RIA that was sent with a smoothbore barrel. If you have the money I'd step it up to a Springfield personally. That being said I have two Springfield and looking to add an RIA, that RIA will be a complete project gun though.

mikaarce
09-15-2012, 6:23 PM
so where is the OP on his choices now?

C.W.M.V.
09-15-2012, 8:44 PM
I lol'd. Do yourself a favor and go research the role fitment plays in a 1911's accuracy, reliability and function. Not to mention overall longevity and life of the gun's guts. What you said is about as retarded as saying you like to keep the wheels on your car a bit loose to aid with turning.


Do yourself a favor and go put your life on the line in a ****hole part of the world, where you need a gun to function all the time every time and you CAN NOT keep it clean.
There's a reason the AK performs so well in all environments, loose tolerances.
Id love to see some of the $3000 kimbers lock up in an Iraqi sandstorm.

Now imagine you need to disassemble said gun, in dim starlight. Oh shoot! Your super duper disassembly tool get damaged/lost! You dropped it in the dark! Oh no, no working gun for you.
Me, all I need is a cartridge case and thats only of I want to take the grips off.

polo.45
09-15-2012, 9:05 PM
KIMBER............ USA built, great quality bang for the $

Igree!!!

willerfortheworld
09-16-2012, 4:33 PM
My friends has a para ww2 that he loves, its just as smooth as any other 1911s in that older style.

But if it was me getting a 1911 it would be a Springfield smooth oporater :D

skyscraper
09-16-2012, 5:25 PM
Do yourself a favor and go put your life on the line in a ****hole part of the world, where you need a gun to function all the time every time and you CAN NOT keep it clean.
There's a reason the AK performs so well in all environments, loose tolerances.
Id love to see some of the $3000 kimbers lock up in an Iraqi sandstorm.

Now imagine you need to disassemble said gun, in dim starlight. Oh shoot! Your super duper disassembly tool get damaged/lost! You dropped it in the dark! Oh no, no working gun for you.
Me, all I need is a cartridge case and thats only of I want to take the grips off.

1911's have been used and are currently being used in the sandpit.

Laying Low
10-19-2012, 9:48 PM
I have a WWII surplus 1911 that is a very tight gun that shoots well and the barrel was throated by someone that actually knows how to do it and the 1911 feeds anything that fits in the magazine,,,No MIM parts.

What does "MIM" stand for?

Distro
10-19-2012, 9:57 PM
What does "MIM" stand for?

Metal Injection Molding

Laying Low
10-19-2012, 10:02 PM
Metal Injection Molding

Thank you!

RealBarber
10-19-2012, 10:10 PM
get a Colt and forget the imports

cwin
10-19-2012, 11:45 PM
A Springfield Loaded is a solid choice.

FUBAR
10-20-2012, 1:02 PM
$399 RIA 1911 GI Model. Can't really go wrong.