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joker70
08-27-2012, 8:50 PM
The only thing I've seen is a Taurus revolver. Seems like it would be similar to a 5.7 or .22TCM but with cheaper and more available ammo.

5.7: 93 grain, 2130 fps, $.44/round
.22TCM: 40 grain, 1875 fps, $.42/round
.17HMR: 20 grain, 2375 fps, $.24/round

G-forceJunkie
08-27-2012, 9:10 PM
I know NAA was having problems for the short time they tried to market them. It works great in a locked breach gun such as a bolt action. In practice, it doesnt seem well suited to semi autos or revolvers.

quaildog1
08-27-2012, 9:37 PM
I have a Savage 503 which is a .17HMR bolt action pistol. It is a lot of fun to shoot and is very accurate. I still think an AR in .17HMR would be awesome to own!

BajaJames83
08-27-2012, 9:53 PM
I remember a few years back I saw a 17hmr conversion for the walther P22s

TKM
08-27-2012, 10:01 PM
Started with a really nice S&W 647 back when they first came out. Put it up for sale, apparently I didn't ask for enough money because it went quick.

Later I picked up a Heritage Arms single action in .17HMR to go with my 96/17. It was before Ruger came out with the Single 17. I replaced some of the cheesier parts with Ruger bits and pieces.

I had a replacement barrel for the Automag II, but I could never get it to run right. Traded for a bottle of Scotch and some ammo.

At anything past 15 yards you just can't see the damn holes.

TKM
08-27-2012, 10:05 PM
I remember a few years back I saw a 17hmr conversion for the walther P22s
No you don't or no you didn't.

COAL won't fit in the mag. Action won't take the pressure.

G-forceJunkie
08-27-2012, 10:16 PM
No you don't or no you didn't.

COAL won't fit in the mag. Action won't take the pressure.

Perhaps he ment .17 hm2

Excaliburr
08-28-2012, 5:38 AM
I think the reason there is no Ar conversion for 17hmr is ammo cost related. I mean after all, why would you want to shoot a 17 grain bullet that cost you like $12 per 50 when you can buy a .223, 55 grainer for $6-7 or so per 20 or we reload for $0.15 per round? The .17 HMR is a great round for its purpose, like varmints and little wind, but it is not the best defence round. I think that is why manufacturers have decided to make .22 Mag pistols.

donw
08-28-2012, 1:40 PM
I have a Savage 503 which is a .17HMR bolt action pistol. It is a lot of fun to shoot and is very accurate. I still think an AR in .17HMR would be awesome to own!

alexander arms makes uppers in 17HMR

donw
08-28-2012, 2:08 PM
I think the reason there is no Ar conversion for 17hmr is ammo cost related. I mean after all, why would you want to shoot a 17 grain bullet that cost you like $12 per 50 when you can buy a .223, 55 grainer for $6-7 or so per 20 or we reload for $0.15 per round? The .17 HMR is a great round for its purpose, like varmints and little wind, but it is not the best defence round. I think that is why manufacturers have decided to make .22 Mag pistols.

recents tests have shown the .17HMR will penetrate lower level body armor at a near point blank range. i think it was discussed on a thread here a while ago...

223 costs 30 cents a round @ $6 per 20...17HMR costs 24 cents a round at $12 for 50 rounds

17HMR is, indeed, very limited in its scope of operation.

i have both 17HMR and 22 WMR in bolt guns...i 'prefer' the 22 WMR

JohnFLand
08-28-2012, 2:29 PM
http://www.ruger.com/products/newModelSingleSix17HMR/models.html

d4v0s
08-28-2012, 5:42 PM
The only thing I've seen is a Taurus revolver. Seems like it would be similar to a 5.7 or .22TCM but with cheaper and more available ammo.

5.7: 93 grain, 2130 fps, $.44/round
.22TCM: 40 grain, 1875 fps, $.42/round
.17HMR: 20 grain, 2375 fps, $.24/round

The problem with .17hmr in semi autos is pressure related. I forget who, ruger maybe remington, developmed a repeating .17hmr rifle and they recalled them and even bought some back.

The pressure of the round in a semi auto was such that it would rupture the bottom of the case when an extractor yanked on it. Thats why I think you only see them in bolt/revolver style firearms.

chucker
08-28-2012, 5:44 PM
Here's mine for sale...
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=612877

Fjold
08-28-2012, 6:57 PM
Funny thing, I know a guy who is a freak about the 17HMR and when the S&W 647 came out he got one of the first ones made. He took it out to the range and couldn't hit a 12" square target at 25 yards. He started looking at it and found that the barrel had no rifleing. S&W had apparently forgot to cut the grooves. S&W fixed it under warranty but he was pretty pissed about having to wait another couple of months to get it back.

thechad
08-28-2012, 7:02 PM
I have a ruger 10/22 mag converted to 17hmr and I love it, it shoots flawlessly, but finding a 10/22mag to convert gets expensive


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Excaliburr
08-28-2012, 9:05 PM
AHHH! Why would you do that!!I have a ruger 10/22 mag converted to 17hmr and I love it, it shoots flawlessly, but finding a 10/22mag to convert gets expensive.



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quaildog1
08-29-2012, 9:44 PM
Paul Mole in Simi Valley used to make a really sweet 10/22 mag to .17 HMR conversion rifle. The accuracy was awesome!

stitchnicklas
08-29-2012, 10:12 PM
Here's mine for sale...
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=612877

:rolleyes:

plugging away huh....

:rofl2:

44fred
08-31-2012, 4:18 PM
I had the 17H2 barrel for my P22. It worked every time I pulled the trigger.
I gave it to a buddy that bought my P22.

A friend got a great deal on a Single Six in 17HMR, we could easily hit 12" gongs at 200yds
off hand at our local gun club. That little round is very fast.