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geedavell
08-26-2012, 6:21 PM
I live in "the city" but we have coyotes very close to our house. We have even had small dogs snatched right off their leashes in our area and I'm looking for something for the wife or myself to carry while walking our small dogs. I have a Colt Mustang which is easy to carry but not have a CCW, I don't need the hassle of being arrested for trying to save my dog from harms way.
My question is, are their any pellet (silent) pistols that are powerful enough and small enough to carry to shoo off a coyote should they get too close to our dogs

emsalex
08-26-2012, 6:43 PM
If silent, small and powerfull are required than its not likely you will find it.

Get mace gell, less blowback on you and your pet.

BDH
08-26-2012, 6:48 PM
Check you local ordnances...here in La Mesa, just east of San Diego, you can't discharge even a BB gun in the city limits. Any pellet pistol would more than likely have to be carried openly due to size or in a pack, then it's not easy to get out. Maybe something airsoft on full auto might scare them off. Maybe pepper spray?

Bruce

C.Bronson
08-26-2012, 6:49 PM
check out the link in my signature...:chris: plenty out there on the market.

Join up and ask away. I'm a Mod on the GTA....some real airnutjobs on there.

aghauler
08-26-2012, 6:50 PM
I live in "the city" but we have coyotes very close to our house. We have even had small dogs snatched right off their leashes in our area and I'm looking for something for the wife or myself to carry while walking our small dogs. I have a Colt Mustang which is easy to carry but not have a CCW, I don't need the hassle of being arrested for trying to save my dog from harms way.
My question is, are their any pellet (silent) pistols that are powerful enough and small enough to carry to shoo off a coyote should they get too close to our dogs

1. Is it legal to discharge an air gun in you area? Believe it or not it is illegal in some areas.

2. Scheels had an ad today for a pump up Benjiman in 22 or .177 cal for 59 bucks, up to 500 fps. So there is something out there. So far I've found actually going after the coyote aggressively, coyote bolts and goes the other way. Course my dog is a Queensland, so she made not look like an easy dinner.

geedavell
08-26-2012, 6:56 PM
I'm sure it's probably not "legal" to shoot here but I'd probably have a lot less explaining to do with a pellet gun?

TKM
08-26-2012, 7:08 PM
I don't see a pellet pistol doing what you want it to.

On a completely different topic, you may be interested in something like this.

http://www.urbanriflesupply.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=92:29-barrel&catid=82:barrels&Itemid=534



You know, to avoid distracting the shooters at the range while they are shooting for record.

dad
08-26-2012, 7:08 PM
The P-23!
It's not silent, but it won't be heard by some one inside a closed house. Well the sound would be extremely muffled!
You can shoot 12bb's in "semi auto"! Or, one pellet, "but the pellet is single shot"!
I have one, but it's the 8 shot model. You'll need to change the CO2 cylinder every 7 to 10 days. In case there is a slow leak, you'll want full power if you need to use it!
http://www.gamousa.com/index.aspx

Squid
08-26-2012, 8:05 PM
on the other end of the leash, even if 100ft long.

But I do believe that people said "dog was on leash" after they were told they were breaking the law by letting the dog run off leash and out of sight in the wilds.

I've had coyotes sneak within 100ft of me, but they ran like hell as soon as they saw I'd spotted them.

I don't think a pellet gun would do more than let the coyote know you are 'there', which he already knows. I've seen racoons just toss a dirty look after being shot with pellet guns, then go back to the cans.

However, most animals and even domestic dogs get all flustered when rocks are thrown at them, and clatter at their feet. But a few good throwing rocks are never around when you need them, so carry a few, along with good flashlight and pepper-gel.

But most of all don't let your dogs go romping all over the wilderness park out of sight when you 'walk' them.

rodog
08-26-2012, 8:39 PM
How about a Taser? at least you can fire it from some distance vs a stun gun. If you really want a pellet gun, I would point you towards an LD from MAC1 air guns. Nostalgia of a Crossman Mk1 with upgrades. Probably too long to carry as they come with a 12" barrel plus 3.5" of muzzle brake which greatly reduces the report. Ditto, on checking the laws on discharging a pellet gun and shooting coyotes in your area.

covingtonhouse
08-26-2012, 8:45 PM
I've got a beeman p1 id be willing to sell in .20cal. Spring powered, quiet, looks and handles like a 1911. Pm if interested

Jacfourteen
08-26-2012, 8:51 PM
If your just wanting to scare them off, how about a small air horn. I have one that I use to scare away the neighbor cat and it is small enough to fit in pocket.

geedavell
08-27-2012, 5:21 AM
Never thought about the airhorn

SVRider
08-27-2012, 10:53 AM
There are airguns powerful enough, but definitely not quiet enough. They will be as loud as a regular centerfire firearm, and as others have pointed out, depending on local ordinances, may be considered the same as discharging a firearm.

There are also powerful (22 short power level) and pretty silent air rifles (one of the great thing about airguns, integral suppressors are legal because they are not considered firearms), however the ones that have both those qualities are going to be big (not concealable) and are going to set you back what a regular firearm would (entry level you are in at about $600 by the time you have the airgun and the filling system).

They are great to shoot, quiet, powerful and many are beautifully made, but can easily set you back $1k+

....I agree you are probably best off to find other means (i.e. pepper spray)

k1dude
08-27-2012, 10:54 AM
Use a modern slingshot with ball bearings or marbles. It's quicker than getting a pellet gun out of your daypack and it won't get you in trouble with the authorities. You'd be surprised how hard they hit and how accurate they are with some practice.

daveinwoodland
08-27-2012, 11:06 AM
I know in our city you cannot even discharge a sling shot, pretty lame I know. And we're pretty rural as well.

Bug Splat
08-27-2012, 11:11 AM
Use a modern slingshot with ball bearings or marbles. It's quicker than getting a pellet gun out of your daypack and it won't get you in trouble with the authorities. You'd be surprised how hard they hit and how accurate they are with some practice.

Also need to check the laws in your area for this. I found out the hard way when I was kid (8y). Cops showed up in my grandmothers backyard and said they were illegal to shoot in the county and took it but didn't rat me out to my parents. I still bought another and did some devastating damage to crows, lizards and squirrels and that was just with small rocks. Steel ball bearings were down right deadly when I had them. They could easily kill a dog or human if shot in the head or vital organ. I regret all the "fun" I had as a kid who only saw small animals as targets. I refuse to hunt anything without a very valid reason. I don't hunt deer because I don't like the taste so that sport is out for me. I love bacon though :D

SVRider
08-27-2012, 11:20 AM
Just how big are those yotes you are talking about???:

http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/steph_bison.jpghttp://www.quackenbushairguns.com/index.1.jpghttp://www.quackenbushairguns.com/Todd_bore.jpg

http://www.quackenbushairguns.com/


If you want really cool, get an FX Monsoon. You're $1500 basically buys you a fully suppressed, 22-short 10/22 that is capable of sub-MOA accuracy:

http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/FX/Monsoon%20Left.gifhttp://www.airgunsofarizona.com/FX/Monsoon%20Right.gif
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/FX/FX%20Monsoon%20Walnut.gif
http://www.airgunsofarizona.com/FX%20Monsoon.htm

CasperSYTFU
08-27-2012, 11:25 AM
Think you guys are missing the point that she wants to carry a small pistol while walking her dog. Not a rifle.

$40 bucks on Amazon, Sig Sauer CO2 replica BB gun.
~350 fps. Enough to sting a coyotes ***. Not silent but very quiet and cheap.

RileyBean
08-27-2012, 11:28 AM
Bolt action .22 with short CB caps??

[Edit.... oops, just saw the post above] Forget the bolt action. Maybe a good CO2 BB gun with high fps

SVRider
08-27-2012, 11:34 AM
Think you guys are missing the point that she wants to carry a small pistol while walking her dog. Not a rifle.

$40 bucks on Amazon, Sig Sauer CO2 replica BB gun.
~350 fps. Enough to sting a coyotes ***. Not silent but very quiet and cheap.

No, not really.

More like to point out that all 3 criteria are achievable in an air based powerplant

- Small
- Powerful
- Quiet

just not all 3 in one single system. You can get 2 of the 3, but not all 3, and even for that, most are not willing to spend the kind of cash to get it....hence the reason I suggested an alternative like pepper spray would be better suited.

pgg
09-01-2012, 9:19 AM
You should get one of these.

http://fullyautomaticairgun.com/

http://www.fullyautomaticairgun.com/images/fullautoairgunfeatures8.jpg