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exacto
08-19-2012, 7:18 PM
I haven't been shooting for a while, but today i decided i would go. So i went to check my ammo in my safe only to find out that some of it was damaged by corrosion/rust and all of the boxes had a black/grayish mold or dust on it. The boxes were all very weak and falling apart as if they were damp.

I took my .22 ammo to the range and tried it in my 10/22 yet it would not fire, i then put in some new CCI .22 and it worked perfectly...

Im gonna toss out the unusable .22, but can i use corrosion damaged shotgun shells??? its only on the bottom metal part and all the primers look good.

FalconLair
08-19-2012, 7:30 PM
just to be sure...this is 2012, when was the last time you say you went shooting?

tankerman
08-19-2012, 7:32 PM
If you have rust on your ammo, what's the inside of your barrels look like?

exacto
08-19-2012, 7:33 PM
just to be sure...this is 2012, when was the last time you say you went shooting?

haha, probably 2009 for the shotgun shells and 2010 for the .22.

exacto
08-19-2012, 7:35 PM
If you have rust on your ammo, what's the inside of your barrels look like?

barrels are fine, i keep the ammo in a different/smaller safe than i do with the guns. The guns are in a open wooden safe i built and are in pristine condition.

Kodemonkey
08-19-2012, 7:36 PM
pictures?

exacto
08-19-2012, 7:37 PM
pictures?

yeah i'll try and snap some right now.

exacto
08-19-2012, 7:52 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2257.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2256.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2255.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2254.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2253.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2252.jpg

here you go, the .22 looks ok so i dont know why it didnt fire. The box pictures are to show the black/grayish "mold" on them.

exacto
08-19-2012, 7:53 PM
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2250.jpg


this is just some of my ammo that got damaged

smattenson
08-19-2012, 8:21 PM
Did you have any moisture absorbers in your safe? Wow!

Bangzoom
08-19-2012, 8:35 PM
I had a smaller safe that would smell of mildew after opening it...then i discovered it had a rubber seal around the door...i took that seal off and no more moisture problem

swift
08-19-2012, 8:47 PM
I wouldn't shoot the ammo shown in the third and fourth photos.

exacto
08-19-2012, 9:19 PM
Did you have any moisture absorbers in your safe? Wow!


yeah i had one, but i guess it didnt work. :mad:

I had a smaller safe that would smell of mildew after opening it...then i discovered it had a rubber seal around the door...i took that seal off and no more moisture problem

i might try that, after all ti is waterproof and its that seal that makes it so...

I wouldn't shoot the ammo shown in the third and fourth photos.

what if i where to use some steel wool to clean it first and get most of the corrosion off?

fighterpilot562
08-19-2012, 9:23 PM
Wow that is bad man!

Tank 57
08-19-2012, 9:25 PM
I would not shoot any of that 12 gauge ammo.Bases are corroded thru the brass plating into the steel.

If the .22 ammo brass isn't corroded,probably just have some duds.

Sky_DiveR
08-19-2012, 9:27 PM
Personally I wouldn't shoot em. Corrosion/rust weakens the metal. They may be fine but thats alot of pressure when you fire a cartridge. Ammo is cheap compared to another gun or worse, an eye or hand.

Just my $0.02

Riflewizard
08-19-2012, 9:38 PM
It's dangerous. Immediately surrender the 12 guage shells to me for destruction.

Walking Fire
08-19-2012, 9:39 PM
The sprinkler system is supposed to go outside on the lawn...
That is some nasty corrosion.

Anti-Hero
08-19-2012, 10:18 PM
12 GA shells are ruined, dispose of them.

.22 LR doesn't look too bad. I've shot worse.

exacto
08-19-2012, 10:23 PM
damnit, i spent like 50 bucks on slugs and buckshot...guess i'll cut em up and toss em.

GW
08-19-2012, 10:34 PM
Well, save the lead. You can cast it later.
Where is the moisture coming from?

exacto
08-19-2012, 10:38 PM
Well, save the lead. You can cast it later.
Where is the moisture coming from?

Yeah thats my plan. I have no clue where the moisture came from... I even had a moisture absorbing packet in there. Nothing wet was ever inside of there, only bullets/shells and time.

Jeff L
08-19-2012, 10:44 PM
Where is your safe located- garage, basement, shed?

taiwon
08-19-2012, 10:47 PM
i would keep your ammo somewhere else entirely cause your setup is NOT working :eek:

exacto
08-19-2012, 11:32 PM
Where is your safe located- garage, basement, shed?

built a gun cabinet with a top shelf for the guns and a bottom to store stuff, and the safe is inside the cabinet on the bottom. The cabinet is inside my bedroom, no where near water.

i would keep your ammo somewhere else entirely cause your setup is NOT working :eek:

yeah, you can count on that

LAKings22
08-19-2012, 11:49 PM
that looks pretty bad. My dad gave me 9mm and .25 ammo he purchased in 1986. They have been in the closet since then. I shot 150 rounds last month w/ no problems.

Packy14
08-20-2012, 12:03 AM
do you have a shower in the same bedroom, it could be ambient moisture. I worry about that with my guns

Bangzoom
08-20-2012, 5:05 AM
i might try that, after all ti is waterproof and its that seal that makes it so...


Honeywell safe?? Yeah if its waterproof when you close the door you trap all the moisture thats in the air in the safe...then that moisture settles on anything inside...some people report wet walls inside and damp papers...yeah take that seal off asap

exacto
08-20-2012, 10:39 AM
Honeywell safe?? Yeah if its waterproof when you close the door you trap all the moisture thats in the air in the safe...then that moisture settles on anything inside...some people report wet walls inside and damp papers...yeah take that seal off asap

yes it is a honeywell safe...well at least im not alone

Sheldon
08-20-2012, 11:20 AM
The KImber rust thread and now this one.....man a lot of moisture out there recently!!! Gonna go look at my stockinged stuff now to make sure they aren't rusting away without my knowledge!!!

exacto
08-20-2012, 2:55 PM
The KImber rust thread and now this one.....man a lot of moisture out there recently!!! Gonna go look at my stockinged stuff now to make sure they aren't rusting away without my knowledge!!!

yeah man, hide yo kidz, hide yo wifez, hide yo gunz, cuz theres moisture out there tryna rust yo stuff.:p

223556
08-20-2012, 3:16 PM
yeah man, hide yo kidz, hide yo wifez, hide yo gunz, cuz theres moisture out there tryna rust yo stuff.:p

AHAHAH
Im gonna double check my stockpile too, they are in ammo cans with moisture absorbers also.
I guess periodically checking things wouldbt hurt.

CK_32
08-20-2012, 3:29 PM
What the hell do you hide your safe in the titanic?

22 looks fine but the shells I'd toss em.

Throw a dehumidifier in there or some moisture packs or something.

Kodemonkey
08-20-2012, 4:58 PM
do you have a shower in the same bedroom, it could be ambient moisture. I worry about that with my guns

Dude, I had that EXACT problem with a sentry safe inside the master bedroom. The sheetrock they use for fireproofing is just a giant wick that would absorb moisture and release it inside the safe. I was recharging dessicant every other week. I had rust on a stainless steel revolver it was so bad. I put a "damp rid" container in there and in a week I had a quart of water - no kidding!

Put it in a non fireproof safe (gunvault) and haven't had problems since (and they are both inside the master bedroom still).

I would store the ammo elsewhere or move the safe. Or get a safe that uses concrete instead of gypsum wallboard.

Oh and I moved that safe to the garage and there are no more problems. The safe liner is most likely compromised or it's just a cheap safe like my sentry.

Bangzoom
08-20-2012, 9:09 PM
yes it is a honeywell safe...well at least im not alone

wait till the circuit board goes bad and you cant open it....mine went bad when it was open...so its now a decoy if i get robbed...i added a bit of weight to it too

swift
08-20-2012, 9:17 PM
what if i where to use some steel wool to clean it first and get most of the corrosion off?

the metal looks damaged and simply removing the corroded metal won't fix it.
I think it would be unsafe to shoot.

Fishslayer
08-20-2012, 10:22 PM
I don't see a problem?:confused:

Dude... just toss that ammo. 12GA is $23/100 at Walmart.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2253.jpg

Seriously though. Are these safes on your boat in the marina?

exacto
08-20-2012, 10:57 PM
wait till the circuit board goes bad and you cant open it....mine went bad when it was open...so its now a decoy if i get robbed...i added a bit of weight to it too

Yeah im thinking i dont want to use this safe anymore....might see it on Craigslist in a little haha

the metal looks damaged and simply removing the corroded metal won't fix it.
I think it would be unsafe to shoot.

already cut up/tossed

I don't see a problem?:confused:

Dude... just toss that ammo. 12GA is $23/100 at Walmart.

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c341/coolguyonaboat/IMG_2253.jpg

Seriously though. Are these safes on your boat in the marina?

yeah, my safety is worth more than 23$...more like 50$...hahahah I kid I kid

Fishslayer
08-21-2012, 9:02 AM
yeah, my safety is worth more than 23$...more like 50$...hahahah I kid I kid

If my life was on the line I would load up with $23/100 target fodder before I'd use that stuff.

Keep an eye on Turner's. They have had Calgunner specials on bulk low recoil 00 rounds. IIRC it was like $100/250 rounds.

Comes in a moisture proof ammo can, too. ;)

gwanghoops
08-21-2012, 9:35 AM
Turners had 175 Federal 12ga 00 buck XM127 shells with plastic can for $100 a little while ago. 6 months ago they had 175 Winchester WinLite Reduced Recoil 12ga 00 buck with plastic also for $100.

If you store a lot of ammo, the plastic cans aren't space efficient (not rectangular) but at least they have a rubber gasket.

17+1
08-21-2012, 1:36 PM
Ammo cans are your friend.

exacto
08-21-2012, 10:33 PM
Ammo cans are your friend.

yup gotta invest in something along those lines.