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WeekendSniper
08-19-2012, 4:42 PM
I need some ideas I am looking for a shotgun to replace my bedside .45 any ideas I am looking at $400 max want something cheap in 12ga that can handle some slugs/ 00 buck

Bunsen
08-19-2012, 4:46 PM
I got this in my e-mail about a month ago and have been thinking of picking one up for the wife. Was looking more towards a 20 gauge which has been what is holding me back.

Interstate Arms Hawk Model 982 Pump Action Shotgun

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=23715

Nice thing is you can use most of the same accessories as the 870.

WeekendSniper
08-19-2012, 6:08 PM
i was think more like the mossberg 500 anyone have one any input?

NoNOS67
08-19-2012, 6:12 PM
i was think more like the mossberg 500 anyone have one any input?

Mossberg 500 and Remington 870 are both great guns and are right in your price range. You can also find the 500 in a combo that includes a longer barrel for hunting or sporting clays.

ETA: I own both.

sephy
08-19-2012, 6:22 PM
I prefer the 870. I have friends who prefer the 500. I managed to pick up a Winchester 1300 defender that had 5 rounds through it for $80 once and it was a great gun too.

I agree on finding a combo if you're buying new (or used). It will save you money in the end.

NoNOS67
08-19-2012, 6:28 PM
I should add that one big (or not so big) difference between the two, is that the 500 has an ambidextrous safety, which some prefer.

CK_32
08-19-2012, 6:53 PM
500 would fit your budget there is a lot of other cheaper shot guns people talk about never shot any but have shot the 500 and it is a great shot gun for the money

sephy
08-19-2012, 7:11 PM
I just checked out the Big5 specials down here in San Diego. I came up with the 500 combo for $299, regularly $399.

Link to ad (hope it works) (http://big5sportinggoods.shoplocal.com/big5/Default.aspx?action=browsepagedetail&storeid=2503823&rapid=1756720&listingid=-2056888450&pretailerid=-98565)

Drivedabizness
08-19-2012, 7:16 PM
Yep the Mossberg combo would give you years of hunting/home defense/recreation for your budget

WeekendSniper
08-19-2012, 7:36 PM
thanks for your input guys think i might go and lock one up tomorrow

negolien
08-20-2012, 5:53 AM
Stevans or Hawk are good enough for your needs and only about $200

JBaus
08-20-2012, 7:05 AM
I would go with the mossy500 combo. I bought the maverick 88 HD shotty and even though I love it, I would have much preferred the combo so I can have both options. I opted for more more shots.

TacticalPlinker
08-20-2012, 7:08 AM
Remington 870 or Mossberg 500. Whatever fits your preference. I have an 870.

MXRider
08-20-2012, 7:35 AM
Between the 500 and 870. Do you want a pistol grip stock? If yes get the 870 for its safety placement. If you want a standard stock, get the 500 for its ambi safety. I have a 500 combo with the 18.5" and 28" barrels and I am very happy with it.

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epilepticninja
08-20-2012, 9:52 AM
870.

Legasat
08-20-2012, 9:59 AM
My first shotgun was a Big 5 special....Mossberg 590. No problems at all, still standing guard in my bedroom.

CasperSYTFU
08-20-2012, 10:00 AM
+1 on 590 if you're budget is sub-500

NastyNate
08-20-2012, 10:02 AM
i was think more like the mossberg 500 anyone have one any input?


Do it! You can find these at big 5 and Turners that are in your price range. You might even be able to score on with a heat shield.

I have one and love it, eats everything FTF one time but that was because she was bone dry - operator error. Other than that, she works flawlessly.

-hanko
08-20-2012, 11:01 AM
i was think more like the mossberg 500 anyone have one any input?
The only input you'll get here is the 500 or 870...go back a page or 3 on this forum, you'll see what I mean.

-hanko

robcoe
08-20-2012, 11:40 AM
I need some ideas I am looking for a shotgun to replace my bedside .45 any ideas I am looking at $400 max want something cheap in 12ga that can handle some slugs/ 00 buck

Like others said, Mossberg 500 or Remmington 870.

Personally I use a Winchester 1300, harder to find but a very nice shotgun(discontinued so you have to buy used), and in your price range since they can usually be found for around $300.

freonr22
08-20-2012, 11:43 AM
Ithaca

fishboy
08-20-2012, 11:44 AM
870

PoorRichRichard
08-20-2012, 11:53 AM
My buddy has a nice heavy H&R Pardner pump with a short 18.5" barrel. The weight really cuts the recoil with buckshot and slugs. I've seen them go for as little as $200. Great gun for the money. I shoot\hunt with an old wood stock 500 with a 28" barrel- love it.

R1J1D
08-20-2012, 5:25 PM
are you guys allowed to have the JIC pistol grip models down there? the mariner is a nice finish.

http://www.gunpundit.com/2007/mossberg_jic_52340.jpg

KevinB
08-20-2012, 6:45 PM
Benelli Nova tactical. 400 bucks on sale at Sac Black rifle.

You will have it for a lifetime.

Russ Florian
09-02-2012, 1:36 PM
Here's what I got from BIG-5 $345.00

http://i1240.photobucket.com/albums/gg498/American_Sheepdog/100_0572.jpg

pitbull30
09-02-2012, 4:08 PM
If you can hold off a bit you can get a Mossberg 500 at Big5 for around 249 at the thanksgiving weekend sale. (or is it black friday??). Its one of those sales where if you get to big 5 before 10am or something they knock off 30 bucks. Then the rest of the weekend the 12ga is on sale for 279. The ad will come out about a week before the sale.

I got mine for the earlybird price. Then i bought a adjustable stock..I got mine cheaper than this one on amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Blackhawk-Knoxx-SpecialOps-Adjustable-Shotgun/dp/B004A01S0C


Then I sold the OEM stock on ebay for a few bucks. Bought a sling and done deal.

Another thing you should look at if you do go the Big5 route is shot capacity. Some are 5 shot...others like mine are 8 if im not mistaken.

ElDub1950
09-02-2012, 4:24 PM
Big 5 has some great deals on Shotty's now .. actually most weeks, but an extra large selection this week.

blazeaglory
09-02-2012, 5:21 PM
I would go with the mossy500 combo. I bought the maverick 88 HD shotty and even though I love it, I would have much preferred the combo so I can have both options. I opted for more more shots.

Yes good guns. I have the Mav 88 5+1 and it fits in my "secret spot" nicely. Originally I wanted to buy 7+1 but Im glad I got the shorter one. They have the 7+1 Maverick 88 on sale right now at big5 for $219.

10mm
09-02-2012, 11:46 PM
I don't think they ship firearms to California.

10mm
09-02-2012, 11:48 PM
I got this in my e-mail about a month ago and have been thinking of picking one up for the wife. Was looking more towards a 20 gauge which has been what is holding me back.

Interstate Arms Hawk Model 982 Pump Action Shotgun

http://cheaperthandirt.com/blog/?p=23715

Nice thing is you can use most of the same accessories as the 870.

I dont think they ship firearms to California.:mad:

kentactic
09-03-2012, 6:14 AM
Remington 870 or mossberg 500 will do just fine. Flip a coin if you cant decide.

jakejake527
09-03-2012, 6:23 AM
mav 88

savannah
09-03-2012, 6:30 AM
Went to Gun exchange and got a beautiful older Winchester 1400 12 gauge. Looks brand new, not a scratch on it and shoots flawlessly. $399.00.

Don't rule out a nice used.

zombiescanlearn
09-03-2012, 7:01 AM
Went to Gun exchange and got a beautiful older Winchester 1400 12 gauge. Looks brand new, not a scratch on it and shoots flawlessly. $399.00.

Don't rule out a nice used.

If that was your budget, you could have gotten a nice new one.

I started out with a pump but I graduated to a semi auto, you should try them. They're a hoot.

Have fun with your new toy.

choprzrul
09-03-2012, 7:08 AM
Here is a Stoeger M2000 Self Defense for $375 + costs. (http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=304396420)

http://pics.gunbroker.com/GB/304396000/304396420/pix561395896.jpg

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pismopal
10-12-2012, 6:51 AM
If you are a lefty and buy an 870 you will want to reverse the safety with a Fortmann part. Ii did it myself but would prefer the Moss ..top of receiver style safety if I was given the option. If you are a righty..the 870 Police Magnum is pretty nice but ALL shotguns can do an adequate defense job and fill another role too.

MossbergMan
10-12-2012, 7:43 AM
Weekendsniper, why on God's green earth would you go "cheap" when speaking of a piece of life safety equipment? I understand budget constrants, but your budget allows for excellent equipment choices. DON'T go the cheap route. Buy cheap, buy alot. Buy quality, buy once.
The Mossberg combos or a dedicated SD/HD 9 shot 500 will last. If needed the CS is very good. If so inclined you could also go the 870 route....but if your life or a loved one's life is going to depend on a piece of equipment, make it the best you can afford.

RuskieShooter
10-12-2012, 7:59 AM
Between the 500 and 870. Do you want a pistol grip stock? If yes get the 870 for its safety placement. If you want a standard stock, get the 500 for its ambi safety.

This.

I have a 590 for HD and love it. Unfortunately I prefer a pistol grip stock and didn't do my research (good deal at Big5 on Black Friday so it was more of an impulse buy).

It gets stored with 8 00buck in the tube, 5 PDX1 in the side saddle, nothing in the chamber, and the safety off. In a stressful situation, its easier to rack one into the chamber than fumble with the tang safety/pistol grip combo.

-Ruskie

voiceofreason
10-12-2012, 8:16 AM
+1 on either Remington 870 or Mossberg 500 or 590

I run a Remington 870 Express and like the way it handles a lot.

I'd run a Mossberg 500/590 with no qualms or concerns whatsoever.

I like the idea of a heat shield as my barrel heats up quite a bit sometimes, so if I was to go Mossberg, I'd likely get either the 590 Special Purpose or the 590A1 Special Purpose, more likely the latter.

I'm happy with my basic Express with bead sight at this point.

I'd recommend picking up the Magpul Shotgun DVDs. Great starting point.

Then take a few shotgun courses.

just something to share:
http://insightstraining.com/blog/index.php/shotgun-recommendations/

SNCaliber
10-12-2012, 8:21 AM
everyones gonna say mossberg 500/590, remington 870, a pump would be better for HD too since easier to clear jams

5thgen4runner
10-12-2012, 8:26 AM
Fn tps that's what I run. It's basically a Winchester 1200 I beleive. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

I love the ar sights, ar grip, ar stock and smooth action.

knucklehead0202
10-13-2012, 8:46 AM
yes, the FN TPS is a winchester 12/1300 defender, in slightly different clothing but it is still produced, which unfortunately the defender is not. lot of good advice here, mavericks, mossbergs, remingtons, stevens, many others available at reasonable prices but you should really handle some and see what you like the feel of. i personally don't much care for remingtons, i had a mossberg for a long time until i handled and shot a defender, then i had to have one. they're only available used, of course, but if you can get hold of one, you won't be sorry. good luck.

bickybiskit
10-14-2012, 8:20 PM
we tend to get caught up in the 500 870 talk alot . i seen a post for the stoeger m2000 and that reminds me of the linberta semi auto they have been touting on budsgunshop for the past few weeks . im a super advocate of the tactical semi auto 12 gauge i would imagian with a extended mag tube would do some serious justice for your halfway battle ground . best value 12 guage mossy mav 88 hands down end of story .

mcmikeblues7
10-15-2012, 4:54 PM
are you guys allowed to have the JIC pistol grip models down there? the mariner is a nice finish.

http://www.gunpundit.com/2007/mossberg_jic_52340.jpg

we can have pistol grip shotguns, but no one wants them

bickybiskit
10-15-2012, 7:52 PM
id rather have a stock than a pistol grip . weird but true . idiots need pistol grips a badass just needs a 12 guage

voiceofreason
10-16-2012, 4:10 AM
Having owned both pistol grip and stock, I prefer the stock over the pistol grip.

I like the position of the trigger hand elbow on the pistol grip better.

I also prefer a thinner pistol grip over a thicker one.

Although a thicker/wider grip might disperse the recoil a bit better, even with longer fingers/bigger hand I find the Remington grip better than the Benelli grip because it's smaller.

X3 if you're wearing gloves, which I avoid doing

comblock
10-16-2012, 4:01 PM
Pardner pump $199 @ big 5. Its basically a chinese rem 870 clone