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young 7x7
08-18-2012, 11:37 PM
i need input on my first shotgun to buy. I was thinking of getting a 590a1 for my first but i was seeing that the 870, m4 and nova were also some to consider. im looking for reliability more than anything and was going to use it for home defense and range usage and maybe a little bit of hunting if possible. thanks in advance for your input......its appreciated.....

Thefeeder
08-19-2012, 12:15 AM
Welcome

Here are some threads that will give you some info.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=608934

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=608350

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=607075

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=605669

Ribkick
08-19-2012, 12:17 AM
870 period. If you do anything else, you'll regret it.

mikajo39
08-19-2012, 1:19 AM
If you're looking for reliability the 590a1 is an amazing pump action shotgun and I've been very satisfied with mine, reliable as the sun. If you can find an old 870 wingmaster they're as solid as a rock and have excellent fit/ finish. I haven't been too impressed with the newer 870 expresses, fit and finish has really tanked. Had quite a bit of failure to ejects on my buddy's 870 express( and I didn't rack it like a sissy)

M4s are amazing. But semi-autos are totally different beasts, they also run a premium over the pumps and have to deal with 922r compliance.

Novas/Super novas are also excellent pumps and can usually be had for a pretty good deal.

Like I tell everyone. Go out and handle a few. If you've got shooting buddies with different shotguns try them out and buy whatever feels best to you.

Leadmaster
08-19-2012, 1:22 AM
+1 to 590a1, or an older 870.

ElDub1950
08-19-2012, 2:25 AM
The 590A1 is a great choice, but IMHO buy the 590SP and save a hundred bucks. Unless you're going to war, the heavy barrel isn't much of an advantage. The A1 has a steel trigger guard but I've never heard of the 590SP trigger guard breaking. Everything else is the same.

rromeo
08-19-2012, 4:51 AM
M4s are amazing. But semi-autos are totally different beasts, they also run a premium over the pumps and have to deal with 922r compliance.
Semi-autos have to deal with AW laws, all imported shotguns have to deal with 922(r) compliance.

Dont_Shoot_im_Chinese
08-19-2012, 5:23 AM
Mossberg 500 is more than enough for most people

dangerranger
08-19-2012, 9:25 AM
Mossberg 500 are as reliable as they come, they also have a great after market of parts to make them into what ever you like best! Remington 870 would be my second choice, followed by the Maverick line. If you had said you wanted a hunting gun first that could do other sports Id have put the 870 first. DR

CK_32
08-19-2012, 10:19 AM
590/870 if you have some coin.. 500 if your tight on budget m2/m4 if you have too much cash to spend and want to sit cool with the tacticool ballas.

mcmikeblues7
08-19-2012, 10:29 AM
if you EVER want to do anything hunting wise, don't get something thats all tacticool. Get an 870, or a 500 and you can just get a longer barrel later and be done with it.

NorCalXJ
08-19-2012, 10:41 AM
moss 500 combo

knucklehead0202
08-19-2012, 6:54 PM
if you're looking at new shotguns i'd buy anything but an 870, unless you get lucky and get the 1 out of 100 they accidentally made well, but i wouldn't take the chance. you can't lose with a mossberg or maverick, they're not flashy but reliable, smooth and well-built. another to consider is the stevens line of chinese-made, warranteed by savage shotguns. they'll be hard to add junk to, but they work well and are inexpensive. 199 right now at turners. the turkish 870 copies are actually much nicer than a genuine remington. go handle them all and make your decision. or buy a used winchester defender, they are the best.

knucklehead0202
08-19-2012, 6:54 PM
if you're looking at new shotguns i'd buy anything but an 870, unless you get lucky and get the 1 out of 100 they accidentally made well, but i wouldn't take the chance. you can't lose with a mossberg or maverick, they're not flashy but reliable, smooth and well-built. another to consider is the stevens line of chinese-made, warranteed by savage shotguns. they'll be hard to add junk to, but they work well and are inexpensive. 199 right now at turners. the turkish 870 copies are actually much nicer than a genuine remington. go handle them all and make your decision. or buy a used winchester defender, they are the best.

young 7x7
08-19-2012, 10:17 PM
if you EVER want to do anything hunting wise, don't get something thats all tacticool. Get an 870, or a 500 and you can just get a longer barrel later and be done with it.

you can't interchange the barrel of the 590a1 with the other 500 model barrels?

KWalkerM
08-19-2012, 10:25 PM
if you're looking at new shotguns i'd buy anything but an 870, unless you get lucky and get the 1 out of 100 they accidentally made well, but i wouldn't take the chance. you can't lose with a mossberg or maverick, they're not flashy but reliable, smooth and well-built. another to consider is the stevens line of chinese-made, warranteed by savage shotguns. they'll be hard to add junk to, but they work well and are inexpensive. 199 right now at turners. the turkish 870 copies are actually much nicer than a genuine remington. go handle them all and make your decision. or buy a used winchester defender, they are the best.

:fud:

CK_32
08-19-2012, 11:24 PM
if you're looking at new shotguns i'd buy anything but an 870, unless you get lucky and get the 1 out of 100 they accidentally made well, but i wouldn't take the chance. you can't lose with a mossberg or maverick, they're not flashy but reliable, smooth and well-built. another to consider is the stevens line of chinese-made, warranteed by savage shotguns. they'll be hard to add junk to, but they work well and are inexpensive. 199 right now at turners. the turkish 870 copies are actually much nicer than a genuine remington. go handle them all and make your decision. or buy a used winchester defender, they are the best.

I've actually had 2 870s in the past 3 months and both have ran flawless with everything buy Winchester universal loads and even my cousin and friends 500 and auto loader had the same problems I did.. Very smooth well working guns. Just like all quality firearms.. This QC thing just got out of hand and blew up on the Internet like a dam YouTube video. One video 10000000 views.. Same thing one gun malfunctions 1000000 read about it 100000000 different people talk about it and it become 10000000 different malfunctions.

Travis590A1
08-20-2012, 5:27 AM
7,000 rounds of buckshot, birdshot and slugs through my 590a1 and she's begging for more. When shtf I'm going for my mossy before my $1,300 Benelli m3.

Piratelife76
08-23-2012, 6:19 PM
I have a 590a1. I also have a CA king Bed. Get what fits you and you're comfortable with. You get to shoot your gun and sleep in your bed... you'll just sleep better having a gun you love shooting. I don't know what the hell i'm saying now, just having fun. I do love my 590a1 and if people tell you it is to heavy then tell them to just go to the gym. Oh, and to piss of the other half of the Shotgun world... new 870's are garbage, only get one if you are into recycling trash.