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dreweezy
08-15-2012, 11:30 PM
Does anyone know how people have an UZI in California? It's pretty much a machine gun so how do people have them?

Full Clip
08-15-2012, 11:39 PM
You pretty much need to do some more research on what constitutes a "machine gun."

NoHeavyHitter
08-15-2012, 11:42 PM
It's pretty much a machine gun

Please, by all means expand on this! I'm certain that I'm not the only person who'd like to hear this explained..

Bolt2Bounce
08-16-2012, 12:35 AM
No your wrong it's It's pretty much a sub-machine gun but with out saying your an idiot.. well.. I can't do it your an idiot.. :rolleyes: B2B

Dingoguns
08-16-2012, 1:24 AM
The short version?

Semi-automatic with a 10 round fixed magazine and some American-made parts, the receiver among them.

Ryan in SD
08-16-2012, 3:10 AM
Im doing an uzi build. You can make them CA legal. IE semi auto and not defined as an AW (look at the pistol and rifle flowcharts)

KracknCorn
08-16-2012, 4:24 AM
No your wrong it's but with out saying your an idiot.. well.. I can't do it your an idiot.. :rolleyes: B2B

Wow... way to be a complete dick and unhelpful. Some people really don't know what a machine gun is and what a pistol is defined as. Instead of calling people idiots, why don't you try to actually help. Seriously... if you're going to call someone an idiot, use "YOU'RE".

A machine gun is a gun that can shoot more than one bullet with one pull of the trigger. Semi-auto Uzi's only shoot one bullet with one pull of the trigger. So they are not machine guns. No real big difference from a regular pistol, they just look different and mechanically function a little different.

redcliff
08-16-2012, 5:27 AM
Real Uzi SMG's fire from an open-bolt. Semi-auto Uzi's fire from closed bolts and have numerous features to prevent installation of an open bolt and smg trigger group.

The California versions of Uzi pistols lack a forward handguard (aw feature) have no buttstocks due to short barrel rifle laws and can use any size magazine you legally posessed for one prior to 2000. They're a big heavy handgun, although cool looking.

spdrcr
08-16-2012, 4:09 PM
No your wrong it's but with out saying your an idiot.. well.. I can't do it your an idiot.. :rolleyes: B2B

Oh the irony.

BTW, it's "you're"

:rolleyes:

Jeepers
08-16-2012, 4:15 PM
still collecting $$$ for my .45acp pistol build.....

going to wait to see how a S/A closed bolt uzi with blocker bars in both the reciever to prevent use of open bolt and blocker bar in the FCG to exclude the F/A position is "It's pretty much a machine gun " thats like saying AK and AR's and "It's pretty much a machine gun" :rolleyes:

Bolt2Bounce
08-17-2012, 12:16 AM
My apologies for being a unhelpful, dick.. never said I wasn't a idiot too.. but one point.. A machine gun is whatever the ATF says is a Machine gun.. b2b

elfstone
08-17-2012, 2:42 PM
OP, hope the helpful people sorted you out.

I think this thread has/will be hijacked cause of b2b's threads.

Oh the irony.

BTW, it's "you're"

:rolleyes:

My apologies for being a unhelpful, dick.. never said I wasn't a idiot too.. but one point.. A machine gun is whatever the ATF says is a Machine gun.. b2b

It just keeps rolling like diarrhea

CAL.BAR
08-17-2012, 2:55 PM
Well, the semi automatic IMI Uzi was readily available at any Turners until 1988. I've had mine since 1985. I suspect there are thousands of them in CA. But in a state of 35 MILLION, that may not mean much. I regularly bring mine to the OC Cal Guns shoot upon request. PM if necessary.

Distro
08-17-2012, 3:27 PM
Just get one of these at Turners and people will think it's an UZI.

http://i.imgur.com/W6SG2.png

PWPSK1
08-17-2012, 3:34 PM
I sell Vector Arms UZI clones--both semi auto pistols and carbines in 9mm....excellent quality.

http://mparms.com/Vector-Arms-UZIs-_c_25.html

bplvr
08-20-2012, 5:53 PM
Since this question was posted on the .22 forum .....maybe the O/P is asking about the Umarex .22LR UZI .

Scuba Steve33
08-20-2012, 7:20 PM
Or people have pre-ban ones.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/4315/0916071739.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/841/0916071739.jpg/)

Capybara
08-20-2012, 11:22 PM
I bought my Vector from Peter at MP Arms, solid guy, easy transaction, very happy with the gun. You will need to budget for a trigger job if you buy a Vector, the stock trigger was about a 20lb pull. Now that it has the trigger job, much better to shoot. He sells the full size pistol and the Mini pistol as well if you want that over a carbine but they pistols are pretty heavy to shoot free hand IMHO.

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/UziLFull.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/UziRFull.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/UziSafety.jpg

http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w489/capybara84/UziTitleIIFakeSuppressor.jpg

r1ghtw1ng
08-21-2012, 8:57 AM
I bought my Vector from Peter at MP Arms, solid guy, easy transaction, very happy with the gun. You will need to budget for a trigger job if you buy a Vector, the stock trigger was about a 20lb pull. Now that it has the trigger job, much better to shoot. He sells the full size pistol and the Mini pistol as well if you want that over a carbine but they pistols are pretty heavy to shoot free hand IMHO.


Nice. Love the look of the fake can on the carbine. I can't get over the ugly pencil barrel.

How much was the trigger job, and was it something you could do yourself?

Capybara
08-21-2012, 6:12 PM
I could not do it myself, I have never attempted a trigger job. Every show I see and YouTube post always has, "you had better know what you are doing to do a trigger job or you can cause a very dangerous situation with it going multi shot or full auto if you screw up and remove too much metal" so that gives me pause to try.

So I had Bill Springfield in Colorado do it. http://www.triggerwork.net/uzi.html You mail it to him with a check for $50.00 (his website is out of date and says $39.00, but he raised his prices and his website does not yet reflect that). Someday when I can hire a real gunsmith to walk me through it, I would attempt it. But I am way too busy to learn.

Capybara
08-21-2012, 6:14 PM
Fake can is from http://www.titleiiarms.com/ Really nice workmanship, it looks pretty real unless you know what you are looking for. Very happy with it.

r1ghtw1ng
08-22-2012, 1:29 PM
Thanks for the info. Will keep it in mind.

Bobby Ricigliano
08-22-2012, 1:35 PM
My Arsenal:

12 Gauge Autoloader
.45 Long Slide with the laser sighting
UZI 9mm
Phase Plasma Rifle with the 40 Watt Range

"Any one of these weapons would be ideal for home defense."

Inverted
08-22-2012, 1:38 PM
No your wrong it's but with out saying your an idiot.. well.. I can't do it your an idiot.. :rolleyes: B2B

Says the person who doesn't know to use you're not your...

nicki
08-22-2012, 1:40 PM
Does anyone know how people have an UZI in California? It's pretty much a machine gun so how do people have them?


The UZI looks like a machine gun, but it isn't because it's function is very different.

The UZI was actually redesigned to fire from a closed bolt versus an open bolt on a full automatic UZI.

Yes the UZI was banned by name in the original Roberti-Roos AW ban in 1989 and other manufactured UZI's were banned by AB23 in 2000 if they maintained the evil AW features.

As long as you get a non-named UZI and you don't have the evil features on the UZI, you can have an UZI in this state.

Nicki