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Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:26 PM
Feel free to ask all of your Marlin 795 questions in this thread!
Mods (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9112995#post9112995)
Sights (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9112997#post9112997)
Triggers / Guards / Handles (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9113000#post9113000)
Parts (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9113003#post9113003)
Accessories (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9113005#post9113005)
Boyds Stocks (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9113006#post9113006)
Other Stocks (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9113007#post9113007)

This thread is Part 2 of the orignal epic Marlin 795 thread (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=171319) by Capt Jack

About Marlin:
Marlin was founded at North Haven, Connecticut in 1870 by John Mahlon Marlin.
Marlin has a long and illustrious history (http://www.marlinfirearms.com/about/history.asp), a few notable points: The Marlin 39A was the rifle of choice of Annie Oakley. Marlin supplied arms in WWI.

Marlin is now located in Mayfield, Kentucky and owned by Remington Arm as part of the Freedom Group (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Group) which in turn is owned by Cerberus Capital Management (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cerberus_Capital_Management).

About the 795:
The Marlin 795 is the current magazine fed version of the Famous Marlin 60 tube fed rifle.
The Marlin 60 was invented in 1960 and alone has sold over 11 millions copies.
It should be noted that this is 4 years before the Ruger 10/22 and millions more rifles produced.

Past Models of Marlin Magazine Fed Semi Autos:
Marlin 70 - Predecessor to the 795
70HC - High Capacity Variation
700 - Big 5 Special Variation of the 70 - Blued with Gold Trigger featuring a Wood Stock
989 M2 - Blued with M1 Carbine style Wood Stock including a top hand guard and barrel band. It had a rear sight that was attached to the dovetail rail
995 - Blued featuring a Wood Stock
995SS - Stainless Steel Variation featuring a Black Synthetic Stock
795TB - Threaded Barrel Variation (Not available in the USA. Possibly only sold in the United Kingdom?)
7000 - Heavy Barrel Variation featuring a Black Synthetic Stock
7000T - Heavy Barrel Variation featuring a Red, White and Blue Laminate Adjustable Stock

Current Models:
795 - Blued featuring a Black Synthetic Stock
795SS - Stainless Steel Variation
70PPS (Papoose) - Take-down Variation
795 LTR - Liberty Training Rifle - Appleseed Edition (Comes with Tech-Sights, Sling, Extra Magazine and a Gift Certificate to attend Appleseed)

Specifications:
Caliber: 22 Long Rifle
Capacity: 10-shot nickel-plated clip magazine
Action: Autoloading; side ejection; automatic "last-shot" bolt hold-open; manual bolt hold-open; cross-bolt safety.
Stock: Monte Carlo black fiberglass-filled synthetic with swivel studs and molded-in checkering.
Barrel: 18" with Micro-Groove® rifling (16 Grooves).
Twist Rate: 1:16" R.H.
Sights: Adjustable open rear, ramp front sight. Receiver grooved for scope mount.
Overall Length: 37"
Weight: 4.5 lbs.

Note: The included lock is on the DOJ approved list

Features the 795 has that the 10/22 does not:
Last Shot Bolt Hold Open
Metal Sling Studs Marlin has apparently changed their stocks to now have plastic molded on Sling Studs. Let's hope they see the light about this mistake.
Integral Dovetail Rail
The Famous Marlin Micro-Grooved Barrel

Customer Support:
Remington: 1-800-243-9700 - Open 9-5 EST http://www.remington.com/pages/our-company/our-company/company-info.aspx
info@remington.com - Confirmed by me to take emails about Marlin issues

Marlin: 1-800-544-8892 - Open 8-4:30 EST http://www.marlinfirearms.com/about/contactus.asp

Rebate:
There was a $25 Rebate offered by Marlin in 2011 which is currently over.
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Rebates/

Disassembly by ArrowDodger (pdf):
http://www.4shared.com/file/177968098/be1e3c38/Marlin_60_action_assy_PDF_1221.html
Note: Take special care when removing and reinstalling the bolt to not bend the recoil spring!

Manual (pdf):
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/pdfs/manuals/MFC_Self_Load_RF_Clip_22LRMACH2.pdf

Ammo:
Marlin has a list of recomened ammo on page 2 in the manual.
It is common advice from 22LR shooters to find what ammo your rifle likes.
This means getting a bunch of small boxes of ammo and testing them out for function and grouping.
Then finding which one has the best mix of function and accuracy at a price your wallet can live with.

Commonly Advocated Ammo:
CCI Mini Mags
CCI Blazer Bulk
Federal Bulk

Hyper Velocity Ammo:
Marlin advises against the use of it in the manual.
I am not advocating the use of it but if you do check the condition of your buffer after you shoot it.
Note: I have never used HV ammo in my 795 but others report that it does work

Clean your rifle before shooting it:
When you receive your rifle it will be oiled with heavy packing oil. While this oil is great for preserving your rifle it is very "gummy". It is best to strip down your rifle and clean out all of this oil. Also some owners report when taking down their rifle for the first time they find a loose metal shaving or two inside their action, which is another reason to clean your rifle before you shoot it.

Note: From my experience the 795 likes to be run almost "dry".
I clean mine with CLP with a toothbrush and then wipe it down till it looks shiny but dry. If I feel crazy I spread one drop over the rails and one on the sides of the bolt.
If there is excess oil you are giving unburnt powder a place to stick


Calguns Marlin 795 Gallery (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=173536) Post your Rifle!

My 795:
Boyds Tacticool Stock (First Run Edition)
DIP Target Trigger (Not Photographed)
DIP Guard (Not Photographed)
DIP Straight Groove Charging Handle (Not Photographed)
UTG Integral Ring Mount
UTG 3-9x 50mm R/G Illuminated A/O Scope
UTG TL-BP69S Rubber Foot Bipod
Knock off Stock Pad / Pack
1 1/4" Sling Swivels (Not Photographed)
GI Sling (Not Photographed)

http://www.renbergphotography.com/photo/chaos_rifle/Chaos_795-002.jpg

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:26 PM
Mods:

No mods need to be done to the 795. You will love your 795 right out of the box. (give it an initial cleaning as you would any new firearm)

Note: I am not responsible for any modifications / damage you do.
This information is for educational reasons only.
I do not advocate trigger work or defeating safeties if you are not confidant and proficient in doing such work.
A light trigger means nothing if the rifle is unsafe or unreliable.
Remember safety is always #1




Fog City Tactical Trigger Work:

7QQc1DVe8L8

Full Playlist of Videos (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QQc1DVe8L8&feature=share&list=PLEEE60871555F51D1)



DUDE’s Tuning:

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Trigger Return Spring:

Many people advocate the replacement of the heavy trigger return spring with a lighter one from a floppy disk.
Another route is to completely remove the return spring.
It is redundant, the Transfer Bar will supply enough force to reset the trigger.
Removing it will take about a pound of felt trigger weight off.



Magazine Disconnect Removal:

http://i27.tinypic.com/2s8mvdg.jpg

Bend the Magazine Disconnect Bar's Tab up Red Circle which will remove the pressure on the Transfer Bar circled in Yellow.

This will allow the trigger to be pulled when there is no magazine inserted.



Paint Over-spray:

Many people will notice that the inside of the receiver of their new Marlin may have some paint over-spray inside it. Many people suggest taking a scrub pad to the inside of the receiver and cleaning out that paint. Personally I just let the parts polish together from shooting it. But if your action is really gritty it is worth trying this.



Sear Reprofiling:

Marlin 60 & 795 Trigger Work by Eric0424 (http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357575)

http://i928.photobucket.com/albums/ad125/Eric_D_0424/Marlin%20Custom%20Parts/NewSear21.jpg?t=1329686915


Empty Casing Extended Bolt Knob Mod:
Note: Most people epoxy the case on, others wrap tape around the handle and press fit it.
45 ACP & .30-30 are known to fit.

http://i46.tinypic.com/sxfajs.jpg

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:26 PM
Sights:

Note: To remove the rear factory sight
1 Lift up the sight
2 Pull the sight ladder out from the middle toward the front
3 With a small wood or plastic dowel drift the rear sights dove tail out. Left to Right


Marlin OEM Adjustable Rear Sight: Apparently Sold-out!
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=890180&catid=4082
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/pub/ProductImage/890180.JPG


Williams Fire Sights:
http://www.williamsgunsight.com/gunsights/rifle1.htm
http://www.weaponsandgear.com/pictures/_W/_Williams/70742W_1.jpg


Tech Sights TSM200:
http://www.tech-sights.com/marlin.htm
http://www.tech-sights.com/marlinweb.jpg


Skinner Rimfire Rear Groove Peep Sight:
http://skinnersights.com/rimfire_groove_sights_25.html
http://i48.tinypic.com/339jf5x.jpg


NECG Dovetail Rear Peep Sight:
New England Custom Gun Rimfire Sight
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=22148/Product/RIMFIRE-RECEIVER-SIGHT
http://www.brownells.com/userdocs/products/p_661000044_1.jpg

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:27 PM
Triggers / Guards / Bolt Handles

Marlin 795 Trigger Assembly, Removal and Re-install Pictorial - By readysetgo (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=15101213&postcount=791)


DIP Drop in Trigger
Adjustable for Pre-Travel
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=123516&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=123527&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/ItemMedia/10019/10019_18766.jpg


DIP Target (Wide) Trigger
Adjustable for Pre-Travel
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=123489&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=123528&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/ItemMedia/10019/10019_18762.jpg


DIP Trigger Guard
Adjustable for Over-Travel
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=112014&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=112015&CAT=3603


DIP Target Trigger / Guard Combo
Adjustable for Pre and Over Travel
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=156299&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=156302&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/ItemMedia/10019/10019_19531.jpg


DIP Installation Instructions for Trigger and Guard
http://www.diproductsinc.com/ItemMedia/10019/10019_48905.pdf
http://www.diproductsinc.com/ItemMedia/10019/10019_39965.pdf

KAT (KickAss Trigger) by ArrowDodger
Revolutionary 12oz Trigger!
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=419321
http://i49.tinypic.com/b7ia2o.jpg


Bolt Handles:

DIP Bolt Handles
Note: there are 2 shank sizes Pre and Post 1997
Either version may require fitting, both of mine did.

Multiple Colors and styles available
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Products.aspx?CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/ItemMedia/10019/10019_70140.jpg


Rimfire Technologies Bolt Handles
Note: Post 2007 shank size
Multiple Colors and styles available
http://www.rimfiretechnologies.com/Marlin_Semi_Auto_Charging_Handle_p/15050.htm
http://www.rimfiretechnologies.com/v/vspfiles/photos/15050-4T.jpg

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:27 PM
Parts

e-clip
http://www.gobrushless.com/shop/media/ccp0/prodlg/E%20Clip.JPG
The smaller e-clip size is 3/32 and can be found at Hardware stores for a few cents


Replacement OEM Buffers (Black or White)
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=982880B&catid=11759
Some people feel that the older more rubbery buffer is better than the newer clearish white ones
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/pub/ProductImage/982880.jpg


OEM Recoil Spring
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/212212/marlin-recoil-spring-marlin-60-60c-60ssk-60ss-60sb-795-795ss-7000-70pss


J&P Extra Power Recoil Spring
https://www.jnpgunsprings.com/product_info.php?products_id=221


MCARBO Trigger Pull Weight Reducing Springs
http://www.mcarbo.com/products.htm
http://www.mcarbo.com/users/142921/assets/788655_1632475.jpg


Marlin OEM Magazines
10 and 7 round magazines work as long as they have the cut on the side that corresponds to the nub in the magazine well.
New magazines are backwards compatible with rifles such as the M70.
But older magazines will not work in new rifles without modification.
You are looking for "POST-88" Bolt and Auto-Loader Magazines Mgf ID: 71902


25 Round Shooters Ridge / Champion magazines
Note: California Magazine Laws apply to rimfire!
Supposedly these magazines are very unreliable
http://cdn1.cheaperthandirt.com/ctd_images/lgprod/3-1027309.jpg
PukEsTaPhx0


ProMag magazines
Note: California Magazine Laws apply to rimfire!
These are very new so little is known about them.
So far the reports are that the 25 round stick magazines work very well!
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/ghp9g.e6ern/v/vspfiles/photos/MAR-A1-2.jpg
MAR-1 25 round stick magazine

Apparently Drums have become Vaporware
MAR-2 30 round drum magazine
MAR-3 55 round drum magazine
MAR-4 70 round drum magazine

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:28 PM
Accessories

Scope Rings:

UTG "Airgun" .22 Integral Ring Mount
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Airgun-Profile-Integral-1-Inch/dp/B002TUSJV6
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Medium-Profile-Airgun-Mount/dp/B002TUSJVQ

The dovetail rail is notorious for normal ring's "walking" off the back of the rail from recoil.
This "one piece" integral ring mount will keep your scope solid.

Yes it says "Airgun", no this does not mean airsoft.
High End Airguns have a very powerful dual recoil effect when they are fired that puts lots of stress on scopes and their mounts.
Fortunately for us Airguns generally use the same dovetail rail size as rimfire.

Trust me these are recommended to and from numerous 795 owners as the best ring option out there.

Note: Make sure to get the height and the tube size your scope needs
Look up the stats for your scope and find the objective or "bell" diameter:
Medium Profile for scopes up to 40mm
High Profile for scopes over 40mm
(This is just a rough guide, it is up to you to choose which height is best for your scope)

For example: The BSA Sweet 22 works good with the medium profile mount (Thanks beanz2 (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=18133005&postcount=951))

Look up the stats for your scope and find the tube size:
Generally 1 inch or 30mm.

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VCVPK6-CL._SL500_AA300_.jpg


3/8" Dovetail to Picatinny Rail Converter:

http://www.joeboboutfitters.com/v/vspfiles/photos/DIP15012-2.jpg
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=164828&CAT=3603
http://www.diproductsinc.com/Detail.aspx?PROD=186947&CAT=3603
DIP and UTG make parts that will adapt your Marlins Dovetail to a Picatinny Rail.
In my opinion this is not a great option for mounting a scope as it will raise your rings and add weight.
This could be a good option for a Red Dot that uses Picatinny

WARNING! Owners of new 795's that seek to use bipods and slings!
It appears that Marlin has decided to save money and use stock sling studs that are simply molded into the stock. Older stocks have real metal studs in them and will accept bipod adapters and sling swivels with ease. These new ones are like the stock sling studs we see on the XT-22 Series of rifles. Reports are these are weak and because of their recessed nature will not mate up with bipod adapters. This is an unfortunate change!
See: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=183601&d=1354929644

Bipod:
See new warning above!
Any Bipod that can attach via a sling stud will work my suggestion is:

http://www.robertrtg.com/images/BP69S-1.jpg
UTG TL-BP69ST Claw Foot Version (http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Low-Profile-Universal-Picatinny-Swivel-Stud/dp/B000JIJ6Z8)
UTG TL-BP69S Rubber Foot Version (http://www.amazon.com/UTG-TACTICAL-Adjustable-Universal-Rubberized/dp/B001BR4VME/)
Comes with adapter to mount to your sling stud or a picatinny rail.
Very light weight, solid, compact at a great price!

o_oLNJuXA6s


1.25" Sling Swivles:
See new warning above!
http://images2.opticsplanet.com/365-240-ffffff/opplanet-uncle-mike-s-super-swivels-loop-size-1-1-4-inch-qd-ss-bl.jpg
Note: 1.25 inch size for GI slings used in Appleseed (http://appleseedinfo.org/)


GI Sling:
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/cdnn_2225_305146195
M1 / M14 Sling 1.25 inch Wide
Note: This is the sling advocated for use in Appleseed (http://appleseedinfo.org/)
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/m1greenwebne.html Currently out of stock


Baby Maglula:
http://www.maglula.com/PistolMagLoaders/BabyUpLULA22LRto380ACPnarrowbodymags.aspx
http://www.ironhorsearmory.com/images/RSR/BTLR24222_1.jpg


DIY Magazine Loader Tool:
aka the "Jukermatic Speed Plunger"
I cut mine out of a DVD case
http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=87177


.22 Cal Rifle Bore Snake:
A rod is not going to fit inside the receiver and using a rod from the muzzle end is a bad idea.
You can also use a Bore Snake with out dissembling the rifle


.22 Cal Snap Cap Alternatives:
Most .22 Cal Dummy Rounds you will find are not intended to actually be dry fired.
A cheap readily available solution is "Ribbed Plastic Anchors" Drywall Anchors found at the hardware store.
Yellow #4-6 x 7/8" or White #8-10 x 1" work well for different 22LR firearms.
Make sure to rotate them so the same spot doesn't get hit over and over.
Sometimes you can even get them to feed in a magazine.

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:28 PM
Boyd’s Stocks:
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/
Many Many Colors Available!
Note: They are now Drop in Fit for either the 60 or 795 separately (In the past they where not see the previous generations below)
Confirmed by Panchira! to be 100% drop in (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9232840#post9232840)

Rimfire Hunter (Formerly known as the Hunter / Target)
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Boyds-Rimfire-Hunter-for-Marlin-Rifles-s/196.htm
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/yjt7u.4bkax/v/vspfiles/photos/610-736-2T.jpg?1348565479


Rimfire Varmint Thumbhole
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Boyds-Rimfire-Varmint-Thumbhole-for-Marlin-Rifles-s/187.htm
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/yjt7u.4bkax/v/vspfiles/photos/610-780-2T.jpg?1343808698


SS Evolution
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Replacement-Stocks-for-Marlin-Rimfire-Rifles-s/186.htm
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/yjt7u.4bkax/v/vspfiles/photos/661-064-2T.jpg?1343808698


Tacticool
Discontinued (Limited edition) It appears that Boyds has finally added the Tacticool to the list of stocks they make for the 795
http://a248.e.akamai.net/origin-cdn.volusion.com/yjt7u.4bkax/v/vspfiles/photos/600-410-2T.jpg?1343809360



Boyds Stocks have not always been Drop in Fit
Note: the generation names are mine not Boyds, these are from observation over the years

First Generation stocks were cut for the Marlin 60’s Tube
They required the trigger guard area to be extended the magazine well to be cut and the tube area plugged.


Second Generation stocks were not cut for the M60 Tube or the 795 Magazine well
They required the trigger guard area to be extended the magazine well to be cut
http://i49.tinypic.com/2uol44x.jpg


Third Generation stocks are now fully drop in cut individually for either the M60 or the 795
http://i45.tinypic.com/x3k2u.jpg

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:28 PM
Other stocks:


Custom Stocks made by Sean Stephens
Workinmanva@gmail.com


Numrich NOS Wood stock:
Note: Numrich states its for the 70.
With some work it will fit the 795.
Needs work on the trigger guard and bolt hold open areas of the stock. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9236793#post9236793)
Also it does not come with sling studs
Thanks to elx144 for the update!

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=448430A&catid=4066
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/pub/ProductImage/448430.JPG



Butler Creek Marlin 7000 synthetic stock:
Note: it has a larger barrel channel due to the heavy barrel of the 7000. But it should fit the 795.
Needs work on the trigger guard and bolt hold open areas of the stock.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=724230&catid=4068
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/pub/ProductImage/724230.JPG



ATI "Dragnov Style" Fiberforce Stock:
Needs work on the trigger guard and bolt hold open areas of the stock.
http://i.ebayimg.com/t/ATI-Marlin-Fiberforce-Lightweight-Dragunov-22-Stock-/00/s/NDAwWDQwMA==/$(KGrHqRHJBoE8+0Mr)00BPT6hoe1ow~~60_35.JPG



Muzzelite Bullpup Stock M70:
http://www.bullpupgunstocks.com/
Needs work on the trigger guard and bolt hold open areas of the stock.
http://www.bullpupgunstocks.com/graphics/stocks/marlin_70.gif



Ramline M70 stock Discontinued:
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=885350A&filter=885350a
Needs work on the trigger guard and bolt hold open areas of the stock.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/pub/ProductImage/885350.jpg

Badger M-22:
http://www.badgerm22.com/uploads/1/9/4/3/19437125/6822940_orig.jpg
http://www.badgerm22.com/buy-now.html

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:28 PM
Reserved

Chaos47
08-11-2012, 11:30 PM
Reserved two

JLMXD
08-12-2012, 8:34 AM
Yes! thank you my prayers have been answered! haha

otteray
08-13-2012, 4:43 AM
Nice. Thanks

kakinuma-kun
08-13-2012, 5:29 AM
Wow. Really nice job with so much info and so well presented. Thanks.

RazzB7
08-13-2012, 6:46 AM
Amazing collection of information! Thank you!

pennys dad
08-13-2012, 7:20 AM
wow!

Capt Jack
08-13-2012, 1:00 PM
Nice Job with the pics and links, my original thread is getting to the point of not being very useful so this was a great idea. :D

Again, best $150 anyone can spend on a rifle!

Chaos47
08-13-2012, 5:08 PM
Thanks guys!

Btw I was looking thru Numrich and came across a part number for more wood stocks that should fit the 795!

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=448430A&catid=4066
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/images/catalog/448430.jpg

Edit: It will fit the 795 with some work done to the trigger guard and bolt hold open areas of the stock. (http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?p=9236793#post9236793) Also it does not come with sling studs apparently.

odslim
08-14-2012, 10:47 AM
dude hell yeah chaos.. thanks... i think this is what every marlin and future marlin owners needed for a thread.

regarding the boyd stock especially the ss evolution version, off hand do you know if it has the front stud attachment and or the abilty to attach the bipod more importantly like the stock version. If not, I can always email or call.

JackRydden224
08-14-2012, 11:00 AM
Chao47 the resident Marlin 795 nut :D

Good job man. It's an excellent write up. Where was this when I had my 795 LOL

Chaos47
08-14-2012, 11:02 AM
dude hell yeah chaos.. thanks... i think this is what every marlin and future marlin owners needed for a thread.

regarding the boyd stock especially the ss evolution version, off hand do you know if it has the front stud attachment and or the abilty to attach the bipod more importantly like the stock version. If not, I can always email or call.


I do not think that the SS evolution comes with studs, but I could be wrong.
The member that posted this might be able to tell you:
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=7812898&postcount=2001
But looking at photos it does not seem to have any.

I know that some of their models such as the tacticool and the rimfire target hunter actually have 3 studs total. Two in the front so you can mount both a bi-pod and a sling.



Chao47 the resident Marlin 795 nut :D

Good job man. It's an excellent write up. Where was this when I had my 795 LOL

Haha thanks!
I have Marlin Madness!

EdCo
08-18-2012, 10:35 PM
I shot my 795 after a year without shooting it and was quite impressed with it's accuracy and my shooting as well lol. I recommend this gun to all my shooting buddies.

Panchira!
08-19-2012, 1:50 PM
I just ordered a Boyd's 3rd gen rimfire hunter for my 795. Will post pics up and give detailed report of any fitment issues.

Chaos47
08-19-2012, 3:53 PM
I just ordered a Boyd's 3rd gen rimfire hunter for my 795. Will post pics up and give detailed report of any fitment issues.

Nice! Congrats!
Should be a really nice stock my GF likes hers that I fit to her rifle.
What color did you get?
Yes, please let us know how the new fitment is!

Panchira!
08-19-2012, 6:12 PM
I got the pepper one diff shades of gray/black. I was really turned off before they offered the 3rd gen. I didn't want to mod a stock and still wouldn't fit right.

@Chaos47 thanks for putting this thread together. So much good info!

Chaos47
08-19-2012, 6:39 PM
Nice, under the paint on my Tacticool it is Pepper (I know from fitting the guard and free floating the barrel) I guess they used scrap or flawed wood because some other people report theirs being Nutmeng and Royal. Sometimes I wonder what it would look like if I stripped it's paint off..

My girlfriends Hunter Target is Sky Blue which is blue and gray, it is really nice!
I like the weight and feel of the stock, it is well balanced.

Yours should look great! I hope it drops right in for you.

Thanks! I love these rifles so it was about time I put all my info in one place

freethemouse
08-21-2012, 12:03 AM
Just shot my Marlin 795 today for the first time. Boy is it fun!

It was at an indoor range so max distance was ~15 yards. I plan to hit an outdoor range later this week to try it at some range. I also ordered the tech-sights which I hope will be arriving soon.

FWIW, I shot 200 rounds of CCI Mini-mag without a hitch. I have a brick of Federal cheapos that I'm really hoping my Marlin eat up. Gotta save those pennies!

Coyote302
08-23-2012, 8:02 PM
Thanks guys!

Btw I was looking thru Numrich and came across a part number for more wood stocks that should fit the 795!

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=448430A&catid=4066
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/images/catalog/448430.jpg

Thanks for finding this. Can you clarify your statement "should fit"? Do you expect it to fit and they just don't list the 795 or do you expect some modification will be required? I missed out on the last Numrich wood stock so I'm interested in this.

Chaos47
08-24-2012, 12:06 AM
If it was designed for the 70 like they say it should fit the 795.
But since I have no first hand knowledge of the stock I can not say for sure.

The only things I can think of is maybe the trigger guard would not fit 100% I know older marlin magazine fed rifles had a 2 part guard (But I think they used the same guard channel size). They also lacked the Bolt Hold Open lever (Which shouldn't be a problem as it should just go thru the hole in the stock cut for the magazine well)

So the best I can do is say "should fit". The last ones where beautiful and a great value and option. I doubt they there will be much more of these available. Order one and tell us how it goes!

2DoorImpala
08-25-2012, 10:06 PM
I went to try out my new tech sights, wow. What have I been missing. Everyone needs some tech sights if you want to switch from scope to irons . They are made excellent and super easy to aim. Even with my shakey hands. I have to get used to irons and get a sling to stop my hands from moving around

freethemouse
08-25-2012, 10:14 PM
I went to try out my new tech sights, wow. What have I been missing. Everyone needs some tech sights if you want to switch from scope to irons . They are made excellent and super easy to aim. Even with my shakey hands. I have to get used to irons and get a sling to stop my hands from moving around

Mine just shipped out yesterday! Can't wait to try them out. The stock sights are TERRIBLE.

elx144
08-27-2012, 10:51 AM
I just got mine from Big 5. So far I've taken it apart and lubed the sear and bolt thoroughly along with running some patches down the barrel. I racked the bolt a bunch of times while it was lubed to try and break off any burs. It seems a lot smoother now, I can't wait to fire it. My Tech-sights should be waiting for me when I get home. I'll follow up with some pictures once I have everything together.

One question, is it legal to bend the transfer bar that prevents trigger pulls when a magazine isn't in?

Chaos47
08-27-2012, 1:19 PM
I just got mine from Big 5. So far I've taken it apart and lubed the sear and bolt thoroughly along with running some patches down the barrel. I racked the bolt a bunch of times while it was lubed to try and break off any burs. It seems a lot smoother now, I can't wait to fire it. My Tech-sights should be waiting for me when I get home. I'll follow up with some pictures once I have everything together.

One question, is it legal to bend the transfer bar that prevents trigger pulls when a magazine isn't in?

There may be over spray of paint inside the receiver. That is probably what you have smoothed out by working the action. Many people suggest taking a scrub pad to the inside of the receiver and cleaning out that paint. Personally I just let the parts polish together from shooting it.

Yes it is legal to defeat the magazine disconnect.
Just bend the Magazine Disconnect bar's tab up which will remove the pressure on the transfer bar.

elx144
08-27-2012, 7:48 PM
Here's my 795 with a flash suppressor.

The next one is next to my M4 length AR-15.

Then its a close up of the tech-sights.

Finally the 795 with the M4 extended and an Arsenal AK-74 for comparison.

firebert
08-27-2012, 11:44 PM
anybody know if the taticool stock for the 800/900 series would fit the 795?
http://www.boydsgunstocks.com/Boyds-Tacticool-Marlin-Rimfire-Rifles-s/158.htm

Chaos47
08-27-2012, 11:50 PM
No the shape of the action on the bolt actions is completely different then the shape of the semi autos.

Panchira!
08-30-2012, 11:02 AM
Forgot to post this up. It's super sweet!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/SW203SGTE/5B41B89F-7A28-4BB7-8488-A69BE0501BAC-180-00000008F8DA1B3A.jpg

Capt Jack
08-30-2012, 12:05 PM
Is that the "Pepper" stock? I'm kinda stuck between that one, the Nutmeg and the Jacaranda...Looks sweet, by the way!

GJC
08-30-2012, 1:03 PM
Forgot to post this up. It's super sweet!

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/SW203SGTE/5B41B89F-7A28-4BB7-8488-A69BE0501BAC-180-00000008F8DA1B3A.jpg

Very nice! Going to have to get one!

Chaos47
08-30-2012, 5:39 PM
Looks great! So no snags installing their new 100% drop in stocks?

Panchira!
08-30-2012, 7:34 PM
Yes it is the pepper hunter. Well worth the $! Believe it or not it plopped right in no modification required. Though if you want to free float the barrel you will need to do some sanding, which I'll do later. The fore grip (under the barrel) is quite longer then stock and the palm swell is a lot wider which fit me and my fiencee better. The weight balance is great the finish is mate but if you want to I'm sure you could polish or spray on a gloss veneer.

elx144
08-30-2012, 8:27 PM
I went with the Numrich stock. It does need some grinding for the trigger guard and the bolt release to fit. Not the nicest looking stock, but it has a thicker grip than the plastic one. I'm still working on getting the flash suppressor to fit around the Tech-sight.http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=167121&stc=1&d=1346387117

I had to add studs for the swivels too.

Chaos47
08-30-2012, 10:02 PM
Thanks to elx144 and Panchira! for their information about stock options. The guide has been updated to reflect the new information.


And also to FUBAR for finding a new rear sight option!
http://skinnersights.com/rimfire_groove_sights_25.html
http://i48.tinypic.com/339jf5x.jpg

elx144
09-02-2012, 12:43 PM
I just put a 375 round box of CCI AR Tactical 40 grain 1200fps through my 795. At 25 yards every rounds was within 4" of the center. I didn't experience any jams, even when I was trying rapid fire. This is one sweet little rifle. The trigger pull really isn't bad, but my thumbs were a little sore from loading mags. I figure once the mags are broken in and my thumbs get thicker loading will be easier. My Springfield XD mags took around 1,000 rounds before I could get all ten in without having to push against the bench.

Gurney
09-02-2012, 12:57 PM
elx144, thank you for your post about the Numerich stock. I've had mine for months, only now have time to install it. Glad to know what to expect.

shamaz
09-02-2012, 5:17 PM
"If you want to get to know people, learn their music. Then learn their cooking. Then watch how your kids play together."

Hey, Gurney, this is a great saying or quote! Did you originate it?

Sincerely,

Shamaz, a musician and "foodie"

elx144
09-03-2012, 6:22 PM
Big 5 had 525 rounds of Blazer 40gr .22 that comes out at 1235fps. I put about 200 rounds through my 795 today and I still haven't had one feed issue. I cleaned the bolt really well and lubed all the moving parts last night. All my .22 shots were at least on paper.

Some of the hits on the paper are 5.56, 5.45, and 9mm. I put up a fresh target after I hit the old one with my shotgun.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=167773&stc=1&d=1346725120

dooodstevenn
09-05-2012, 3:50 PM
i just did my paperwork for mine today! blued and synthetic for 150 at bass pro, plus tax and fees will pick it up monday the 17th, since i will be working on the weekends :( any recommendations as to first mods? trigger? sights? if so what brand?

CharlesV
09-06-2012, 5:49 AM
Are 795's just fine out of the box or do mods need to be done first? From the Dude vid above the 795 sounds like my Marlin 30-30 which required an action job right out of the box. I want to buy a 795 this month and would like to know whats coming or if i dont have to worry about it. Thanks.

dooodstevenn
09-06-2012, 2:39 PM
just watched through the fog city trigger job, mods look really easy, but im not too sure about stoning the sear. worried about accidental discharges. has anyone stonned their sear? if so how much? i would only be willing to take a very little bit off, will that do anything at all?

elx144
09-07-2012, 7:48 AM
I think the point of stoning the sear is to remove any imperfections. I figure this would eventually be done with normal use. It would be hard to add metal later on, and there's going to be wear with use. Not removing metal means I wont have to buy new parts as soon. All I've done is oil the sear and fire the gun. Make sure you clean the gun really well before you fire it. The trigger pull will always be hard, but that makes it a good training rifle.

The tech-sights are nice. The rear sights looks a little crooked on the rails, but the sights line up straight. The factory sights will do, but I didn't like the depth of the rear sight notch.

Chaos47
09-08-2012, 8:22 PM
No mods "need" to be done. Your 795 will run perfectly fine right out of the box (I would clean it first and get out the gummy packing oil though)

"Dude" as I am sure you have seen is a bit eccentric. They are good videos but he goes a bit overboard imo. Your rifle will run fine without most of the things he does. I posted them because I aim to have the most 795 information together in one place.

I personally have not stoned my sear. No the parts will not wear into this configuration. This is re profiling the angle on the sear. I do not have the correct tools to do it so I skipped it. You have to go very slow and make sure you do not take too much off otherwise yes it may become unsafe.

My trigger is plenty light just from doing the springs and other tuning. I do not have a weight gauge to tell you what it is at though.

CharlesV
09-08-2012, 11:09 PM
Ok thanks for that. Looks like the trigger spring is the most helpful thing to do out of the box. I think the heavy spring is intended for beginners in .22. IMO.

I wont do anything else until i shot it quite a bit. Im 50/50 on either a 60 or 795 so I may buy a model 60 at the same time and outfit them differently. We'll see. I dont know.

For cheapie scopes, have shooters settled on one?

Chaos47
09-09-2012, 12:26 AM
Heavy triggers are because of lawyers. Yes one of the fastest and easiest things you can do is just straight up remove your trigger return spring. I would also tweak the rest of the springs as per the fogcitytactical videos.

Can't go wrong on a 60 or 795..

No pack leader on scopes. There are lots of threads out there about 22lr scopes so do some looking around.

inbox485
09-09-2012, 2:33 AM
I got 2 795's from big 5 a little bit back. Both had the trigger go dead around 100 rounds. Turns out there is a pin that walks out and jams the sear disconnect. Anybody else have this issue, or deal with Marlin for warranty stuff?

Chaos47
09-09-2012, 11:03 AM
Never heard of this...

Which pin?
Where is it located? Trigger Guard, Action?
Photos would be helpful!

I have dealt with them for getting replacement magazines it was pretty easy but I am sure it will be a bit harder to send firearms back and forth...

So lets see if we can get them working for you before you have to send them in.

BTW Where are you located? If you are in the IE area I would be happy to look at them.

CharlesV
09-09-2012, 3:38 PM
Thanks Chaos.

Your post reminded me of something you could do if you want, thats to boil down discussions and add to the first post the summary facts, like which scopes, which best mods, etc. Then remove the discussions, leaving the bare facts. Eventually the first post contains everything A-Z.

I see a problem in Calguns and an AR-7 forum im on when threads become very long. Newcomers ask the same questions over and over and nobody wants to answer and the newcomers dont want to read 50 pages of a thread to find that one word or one line answer. Since you already started this better idea in the first post, consider seeing the idea through. Alternative is leave things as they are and gleen out facts to eventually have one gigantic Sticky post. Eventually this could be done for all models of guns.

Chaos47
09-09-2012, 5:33 PM
That is what I am trying to do with this thread.

The first posts are a distillation of information from the original "Marlin 795 thread" and other resources around the web. As new products or tips are brought up the first posts will be updated to reflect the new information.

dooodstevenn
09-09-2012, 9:50 PM
No mods "need" to be done. Your 795 will run perfectly fine right out of the box (I would clean it first and get out the gummy packing oil though)

"Dude" as I am sure you have seen is a bit eccentric. They are good videos but he goes a bit overboard imo. Your rifle will run fine without most of the things he does. I posted them because I aim to have the most 795 information together in one place.

I personally have not stoned my sear. No the parts will not wear into this configuration. This is re profiling the angle on the sear. I do not have the correct tools to do it so I skipped it. You have to go very slow and make sure you do not take too much off otherwise yes it may become unsafe.

My trigger is plenty light just from doing the springs and other tuning. I do not have a weight gauge to tell you what it is at though.


is the packing oil everywhere in the gun? so would it be necessary to take apart the action and clean/lube that too?

Chaos47
09-09-2012, 10:30 PM
Its not like there is a ton of it or that its all over the place. But yes there is a thin coat of it which should be removed.

So yes, you should open up the rifle and clean it out. This is generally advisable for any new firearm.

The 795 is modular, the action comes out in one piece.

The action can be taken apart farther but for general cleaning it can be left together and cleaned with a tooth brush.

Flip over the rifle
Unscrew the 2 screws on the trigger guard
Pull off the trigger assembly
While holding the receiver to the stock, flip the rifle over again
Pull the receiver and barrel up from the stock
Put stock to the side
Remove the plastic pin from the rear of the action and receiver
You now have the action module separate and it can be cleaned

You will also remove the bolt and recoil spring and guide at this point.
Take care to not bend the spring when removing and replacing it.

Btw from my experience the 795 likes to be run dry

dooodstevenn
09-09-2012, 11:32 PM
completely dry? a little lube? worries me not having lube with metal on metal

roushstage2
09-10-2012, 12:19 AM
A light film of oil kind of dry; not dripping wet.

Chaos47
09-10-2012, 12:25 AM
I clean mine with CLP with a toothbrush and then wipe it down till it looks shiny but dry. If I feel crazy I spread one drop over the rails and one on the sides of the bolt. Any more and you are just giving unburnt powder and carbon places to stick to.

Never had any failure of any kind with either rifles with thousands of rounds fired each. Never noticed any extra ware from them being run almost dry.

inbox485
09-10-2012, 7:20 AM
Never heard of this...

Which pin?
Where is it located? Trigger Guard, Action?
Photos would be helpful!

I have dealt with them for getting replacement magazines it was pretty easy but I am sure it will be a bit harder to send firearms back and forth...

So lets see if we can get them working for you before you have to send them in.

BTW Where are you located? If you are in the IE area I would be happy to look at them.

It is the main pin in the hammer:

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-hVCIKUFCk1k/T3_EJmnT3uI/AAAAAAAABmM/amixTWBo3DM/s912/2012-04-06_21-29-44_282.jpg

The pin walks out and traps the sear disconnect down like this:

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-KT_iyEfKoR8/T3_EJ4l7FBI/AAAAAAAABmQ/GCAxSjdwmzw/s912/2012-04-06_21-31-58_431.jpg

Not exactly range fixable. And it is two for two, so either there was a bad batch or Marlin has gone the way of Remington. Given who bought them both, that was my assumption. I think I might be able to deform the pin a bit on the opposite end and call it good, but I haven't had the time. I am in Hemet, so if you have any other ideas, I'm open to ideas. I've been telling anybody that's mentioned getting one of these to either buy used, or get a Ruger instead. My old hi-points are more reliable than these 795's.

Chaos47
09-10-2012, 12:02 PM
Wow, well that sure sucks!

I will have to take my rifle apart when I get them back tomorrow night (they are at my friends house at the moment, just got back from vacation) and take a look to be sure but I am 90% sure that that pin on my rifles is peened on the opposite side so it is pretty much press fit.

I would assume either your pin is undersized or not peened.
If I am remembering it correctly the peen is just a dent in the center of the pin on the right side. I would probably do it with an automatic center punch.

Let me know if you want help.

inbox485
09-10-2012, 1:43 PM
I don't remember for sure, but I don't think the pin was peened at all. Like I said, given the new owner, I'm not surprised that things like this are being skipped / missed.

I didn't know a center punch could punch that hard. I was planning to take something like a chizle and give a good wack on the opposite end to give it a slight dogbone. I'm not sure when I'll get a chance to take it back apart and work on it, but I'll try one, rip through a box of .22 shells to make sure it worked, then do the other.

Chaos47
09-10-2012, 3:09 PM
Yea like I said I'm 90% sure it should have been peened. Someone got lazy at the factory apparently. I know when I polished my hammers that they came out with the strut and hammer firmly attached to eachother.


Your method may work too I just have seen an auto center punch peen a pin before so I know it works.

Tried to get the trigger pin out of a FM made Hipower clone with epoxy finish. That pin was in there so dang good you wouldn't believe all the stuff I tried. Read about people using automatic center punches to get them out. Got a Harbor freight one and it put a good dent into it but it didn't budge.

Had to borrow my step fathers adjustable one. Took dozens of hits starting from low to high to finally get it budging. (This is after a month of soaking it in penetrating oil, hah)

Ended up that there where 2 small metal shavings inside the hole that where acting like wedges. Ugh at least it came out and I could remove that dang Magazine safety.

But the point to this is yes an auto center punch can peen a pin.

Chaos47
09-10-2012, 3:09 PM
Yea like I said I'm 90% sure it should have been peened. Someone got lazy at the factory apparently. I know when I polished my hammers that they came out with the strut and hammer firmly attached to eachother.


Your method may work too I just have seen an auto center punch peen a pin before so I know it works.

Tried to get the trigger pin out of a FM made Hipower clone with epoxy finish. That pin was in there so dang good you wouldn't believe all the stuff I tried. Read about people using automatic center punches to get them out. Got a Harbor freight one and it put a good dent into it but it didn't budge.

Had to borrow my step fathers adjustable one. Took dozens of hits starting from low to high to finally get it budging. (This is after a month of soaking it in penetrating oil, hah)

Ended up that there where 2 small metal shavings inside the hole that where acting like wedges. Ugh at least it came out and I could remove that dang Magazine safety.

But the point to this is yes an auto center punch can peen a pin.

inbox485
09-10-2012, 3:20 PM
Do you think something like this would do the trick, or is there something better to use?

http://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html

dooodstevenn
09-10-2012, 3:35 PM
are the stock sights really that bad? from what ive been reading everyone loves their tech sights and say they're worth the money, but how much of a difference does it actually make compared to stock?

also, what material are they made from?

Chaos47
09-10-2012, 4:52 PM
Do you think something like this would do the trick, or is there something better to use?

http://www.harborfreight.com/spring-loaded-center-punch-621.html

Thats the same one that was not strong enough to drive the pin on my hipower but it will probably work for this.

If you don't already have one you could just try your idea

are the stock sights really that bad? from what ive been reading everyone loves their tech sights and say they're worth the money, but how much of a difference does it actually make compared to stock?

also, what material are they made from?

The front stock sight is fine. Could use a dab of paint to brighten it up.
The stock rear is kinda crappy its just folded stamped metal.
Probably worth the 10ish bucks to get the adjustable rear sight from Numrich... But the stock ones will work.

Tech sights are more adjustable and give you a peep style view.
From what I understand they are made of plastic metal.
Lots of people swear by them, my friend had a set for his Remington 597. He hated them, said that the plastic was cheap and that they did not keep their zero. But honestly that is like the only complaint of them I have ever heard. Everyone online seems to love them...

Lots of people love the Tech sights because they mimic US WW2 Battle Rifle sights. Because this is the style of shooting they teach at Appleseed many people recommend them for that reason.

My Girlfriend 795 rocks Williams Fire Sights, which we both like.
My 795 is scoped and has no backup sights on it...

rkt88edmo
09-10-2012, 5:07 PM
Ive got a new to me 795 and new manufacture one. I'll have to compare the pins. The new manufacture one has a qr code looking thingum inscribed next ro the serial #

dooodstevenn
09-10-2012, 6:50 PM
Thats the same one that was not strong enough to drive the pin on my hipower but it will probably work for this.

If you don't already have one you could just try your idea



The front stock sight is fine. Could use a dab of paint to brighten it up.
The stock rear is kinda crappy its just folded stamped metal.
Probably worth the 10ish bucks to get the adjustable rear sight from Numrich... But the stock ones will work.

Tech sights are more adjustable and give you a peep style view.
From what I understand they are made of plastic.
Lots of people swear by them, my friend had a set for his Remington 597. He hated them, said that the plastic was cheap and that they did not keep their zero. But honestly that is like the only complaint of them I have ever heard. Everyone online seems to love them...

Lots of people love the Tech sights because they mimic US WW2 Battle Rifle sights. Because this is the style of shooting they teach at Appleseed many people recommend them for that reason.

My Girlfriend 795 rocks Williams Fire Sights, which we both like.
My 795 is scoped and has no backup sights on it...


thanks for the info! do you HAVE to have those style sights for appleseed? never been to one, but they're coming to the range down the street from my house in a few months that i want to go to, but i dont think i would want to spend 70 bucks on plastic sights.

also which fire sights fit the 795? i looked through the link and dont see marlin 795 sights specifically mentioned

Chaos47
09-10-2012, 7:11 PM
No you don't have tech sights for Appleseed.
Appleseed is a bring what you have event.
Though it is highly recommend to have the GI style Web sling.

You can have any style sights or even a scope they will give you instruction on what you have. (Bring the manual for your scope if you have one)

The only thing you can not have at Appleseed is a bipod. Or use a large magazine as a Monopod. They teach shooting positions and sling use so you wont need one.


The Williams sights I purchased are for the M60 which is practically the same gun
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26037/Product/MARLIN-RIMFIRE-FIRE-SIGHTS



rkt88edmo What do your serial number start with?
The older ones start with numbers which if you took the first 2 and subtracted 100 from it you would get the year it was made.

Then when Remington took over they changed that and they started with "MM" Which is what both of mine are have.

I have not seen a QR style one yet, that is very interesting.

dooodstevenn
09-10-2012, 7:23 PM
No you don't have tech sights for Appleseed.
Appleseed is a bring what you have event.
Though it is highly recommend to have the GI style Web sling.

You can have any style sights or even a scope they will give you instruction on what you have. (Bring the manual for your scope if you have one)

The only thing you can not have at Appleseed is a bipod. Or use a large magazine as a Monopod. They teach shooting positions and sling use so you wont need one.


The Williams sights I purchased are for the M60 which is practically the same gun
http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=26037/Product/MARLIN-RIMFIRE-FIRE-SIGHTS



rkt88edmo What do your serial number start with?
The older ones start with numbers which if you took the first 2 and subtracted 100 from it you would get the year it was made.

Then when Remington took over they changed that and they started with "MM" Which is what both of mine are have.

I have not seen a QR style one yet, that is very interesting.


oh okay, sounds good. any gunsmithing needed for those sights? or do they go on fairly straight forward?

Chaos47
09-10-2012, 7:28 PM
Never installed a pair but it should be diy.

Rear clamps onto the dovetail rail on the back and front should just use the same hole screw

inbox485
09-11-2012, 8:35 AM
I have tech sights, and I really like them. They use the standard AR front posts, so you can select different front posts if you like. My only gripe is that the front sight doesn't use the detent plunger like on an AR, so if you try to use a fiber optic front sight post, you wont be able to keep the top part from turning under recoil. It is really simple to install tech sights. There's no drilling or anything like that.

For appleseed, you can use whatever sights you want, but unless your eyes are too bad for iron sights and you need a scope, there is a reason most people get the tech sights. You are shooting at targets that appear to be about the size of your stock front sight dot. You can do it with the stock sight, but it will be more natural with a finer tip, and the peep centers the shot picture more naturally than the two dot rear. Also part of the reason they are popular is that a 10/22 or 795 with tech sights is basically an M1 trainer rifle in .22lr.

Chaos47
09-11-2012, 11:31 AM
Got an email from BOYDS

Attention Marlin Firearms Owners:
BOYDS' is offering you 10% off
any Marlin Replacement Stock.
Stocks available for the following models:
Marlin 336
Marlin 60
Marlin 795
Marlin 800/900 Series
Marlin 81C
Marlin Camp
Marlin XL7
Marlin XS7
Use Coupon Code: MARLIN10 AT CHECKOUT
Email does not state an expiration date

Lead Waster
09-12-2012, 2:47 PM
Thanks for the Boyds coupon tip!

Oh, I think my Marlin has a canted front sight. I can't really see it on the gun, but I have to crank my tech sights almost all the way over to the left to get it zeroed at 25 yards!

rbatesmotel
09-12-2012, 6:48 PM
Just picked up my first 795 on sale at Dick's Sporting Goods 129.99. Their catalog says there should be a 25 dollar rebate coupon on purchase as well but clerk couldn't find one. I will Hound them for it when I pick it up

Chaos47
09-12-2012, 6:54 PM
The Marlin rebate is long over unless there is a new one that I have not heard about.

http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Rebates/

129.99 is still a pretty good deal in 2012..

rbatesmotel
09-12-2012, 7:03 PM
The rebate notice was in the 2012 dick's catalog. I believe it may be a dick's promotion. Will find out if too good to be true next week. The countdown has begun

bombadillo
09-12-2012, 7:08 PM
Are they making the kick *** trigger for the model 60 as well? I have a 60, a revelation, and a 795.

sigma6
09-12-2012, 7:21 PM
Looking for sling mounts for my VTAC sling. Should I just use plain key rings and call it a day?

Chaos47
09-12-2012, 9:28 PM
Are they making the kick *** trigger for the model 60 as well? I have a 60, a revelation, and a 795.

ArrowDodger does make the KAT for both!


The rebate notice was in the 2012 dick's catalog. I believe it may be a dick's promotion. Will find out if too good to be true next week. The countdown has begun

Interesting, let us know how it goes!

CharlesV
09-12-2012, 10:02 PM
Thats the best price out there. I'll fall off my seat if he gets it for $129-25. There is no mention of the 795 or 60 on the web site or the weekly flyer. Was a 2012 catalog referring to old prices and promotions or is it a sale going on this moment?

rbatesmotel
09-12-2012, 11:01 PM
the $129 is a sale going on this moment. The 2012 catalog was sitting on the counter and I was thumbing thru it during paperwork when I came across the mention of it under the Marlin description. Asked the clerk and he said he would get one from the front counter rebate folder but said they didnt have any more. Said he would look for one and put it with the 795 for pickup day. I guess I will see if was live or an old promo when I pick it up. Would be nice to get an extra mag or two, so crossing fingers.

CharlesV
09-13-2012, 12:04 AM
Can you tell me the dates of this sale? Im out of town until 26th but am buying a 60 and 795 so sure would like to cut the price. I have a DSG not far from me.

Chaos47
09-13-2012, 12:29 AM
Can you tell me the dates of this sale? Im out of town until 26th but am buying a 60 and 795 so sure would like to cut the price. I have a DSG not far from me.

No Dicks in SoCal sell firearms that I am aware of.
I emailed their customer support a year or two ago and asked and they said that they could not tell me which ones did and that I would have to call each store individually.

dooodstevenn
09-13-2012, 12:36 AM
No Dicks in SoCal sell firearms that I am aware of.
I emailed their customer support a year or two ago and asked and they said that they could not tell me which ones did and that I would have to call each store individually.

i called a few and felt stupid when i asked for the hunting department and was told "umm...we don't have one"

CharlesV
09-13-2012, 12:48 AM
OIC....bizarre...I hear about DSG all the time on Calguns, they must be referring to....where? Why advertise guns on a company website if you dont sell guns but limitedly? Ok, no help here.

Chaos47
09-13-2012, 1:08 AM
Guess they sell them in Norcal..
Too bad they have had some sales I would have jumped on too

CharlesV
09-13-2012, 1:36 AM
I just about snarfed oatmeal on ($129-25) myself. Thats not enough bragging rights to top a fellow on Youtube who paid ($124-25) but it would do.

Chaos47
09-13-2012, 2:02 AM
haha! Well mine might not have been 124-29 but I did get mine at (if I remember correct) 135-25 so 110 ain't bad at all..

CharlesV
09-13-2012, 3:10 AM
The video was funny.......the guy is about 80 and doing a open-the-box video. "look at this you guys! 99 bucks!! 99 bucks you guys!!! HAAAAAAAA!" and im burning, ok im going to strangle that dog!!

rbatesmotel
09-14-2012, 7:09 AM
Asked how long sale was on for and clerk stated he didnt have a date, so I jumped on it while it was in front of me.

Yes I am in NoCal

dooodstevenn
09-14-2012, 12:38 PM
I still cannot decide between firesights and tech sights...i like how the tech sight is so precise but doesn't work too well in low light, and they're also plastic

firesights i like because theyre damn bright and metal.

i'd like to be able to shoot 100 yards with iron sights and am planning to do some appleseed stuff next time they come around. this makes me sway towards tech sights since i doubt ill be shooting in such low light i cant see the sights at all or i can add some neon paint. but they are plastic after all, how durable are these things? if it slips off a table and falls on the sight will they snap?

CharlesV
09-14-2012, 1:17 PM
Well then is Skinner the alternative for this type of sight? I prefer not to use a scope but a cheapie does work just fine. I see the value in all these and its hard to decide.

dooodstevenn
09-14-2012, 1:43 PM
Well then is Skinner the alternative for this type of sight? I prefer not to use a scope but a cheapie does work just fine. I see the value in all these and its hard to decide.

isnt the skinner only a rear sight?

and can anyone verify the material of the tech sights...ive read its steel/alum. and others say plastic.

inbox485
09-14-2012, 1:47 PM
I still cannot decide between firesights and tech sights...i like how the tech sight is so precise but doesn't work too well in low light, and they're also plastic

firesights i like because theyre damn bright and metal.

i'd like to be able to shoot 100 yards with iron sights and am planning to do some appleseed stuff next time they come around. this makes me sway towards tech sights since i doubt ill be shooting in such low light i cant see the sights at all or i can add some neon paint. but they are plastic after all, how durable are these things? if it slips off a table and falls on the sight will they snap?

For my tech sight, I got a fiber optic AR front sight post. You have to cut the screw down to fit, and super glue the base so that it can't rotate, but it is about as good as it gets without being self illuminated. The front sight isn't plastic. It is metal. I don't recall which parts are plastic, but it didn't feel cheap or fragile. Maybe there were old versions that were. I got mine earlier this year.

dooodstevenn
09-14-2012, 2:20 PM
For my tech sight, I got a fiber optic AR front sight post. You have to cut the screw down to fit, and super glue the base so that it can't rotate, but it is about as good as it gets without being self illuminated. The front sight isn't plastic. It is metal. I don't recall which parts are plastic, but it didn't feel cheap or fragile. Maybe there were old versions that were. I got mine earlier this year.

okay, just wanted to make sure they're solid. just bought them directly from tech-sights.com

rkt88edmo
09-15-2012, 10:37 AM
Both the Marlins I have are MM generation, will take apart to look at the pins today if I get to it, in the meantime here is a craptastic picture which shows the QR code on the one I bought NIB from Big5. that little box to teh far right next to the H in the SN pretty much looks like a QR code but the resolution of it is pretty darn low even in person.

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8295/7987281742_0be3c0f226.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rkt88edmo/7987281742/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/rkt88edmo/7987281742/) by rkt88edmo (http://www.flickr.com/people/rkt88edmo/), on Flickr

CharlesV
09-15-2012, 3:03 PM
About plastic parts,
I dont yet have tech sights but never once have i heard any bad thing about them breaking or otherwise not being durable. I have no hesitation to trust them.

But what what plastic are we talking about? My experience is this, Nylon is tougher than nails, i cant even file on it; ABS can shatter if its very thin; Polycarbonate can break but has a huge bounce factor builtin, it would not be easy to break it; Acrylic can shatter or crack relatively easily. What does tech sights use? Ask them.

About metal,
Im more wary of metal parts-- MIM its called? I dont even consider that steel and i hate it. I have previously broken parts made of that. On that topic, most guns today incorporate that material in the trigger groups, like my Marlin 336. Can older steel parts be exchanged one by one? My friends 1980 Mod 60 is all steel, can parts be ordered from Marlin to exchange and get all steel back in the rifles? Is there any reason not to do this?

bombadillo
09-15-2012, 5:31 PM
I will throw in here, that if you're ever cleaning your 795, DON'T for the love of God use Gunscrubber from Birchwood Casey because it will flat out EAT your trigger group. I thought I was going to have to buy a whole new FCG after using it on accident one day. I thought I had CLP and I was really really wrong.

dooodstevenn
09-16-2012, 8:06 AM
anyone here end up polishing their reciever and bolt?

DasBoost
09-16-2012, 8:24 AM
anyone here end up polishing their reciever and bolt?

I think Chaos47 might have, but I'm not 100% sure... I believe it comes down to Flitz, Dremel, and polishing wheel. Break down the 795 and get that crappy overspray and machining polished away. :)

Chaos47
09-16-2012, 11:41 AM
I have polished my bolt but not like 1000% crazy like some people go.

I used simichrome polish as that is what I have on hand. I have seen other people that used Flitz or Mothers on parts (Generally AK bolt carrier) they can get things crazy shiny..

The inside of my receivers are not even 100% free of paint. I just shot mine and let it remove it on the points of contact.

I have been thinking of removing it all and polishing it up a bit but I probably won't as there really ins't a benefit.

DasBoost
09-16-2012, 11:44 AM
I have polished my bolt but not like 1000% crazy like some people go.

I used simichrome polish as that is what I have on hand. I have seen other people that used Flitz or Mothers on parts (Generally AK bolt carrier) they can get things crazy shiny..

The inside of my receivers are not even 100% free of paint. I just shot mine and let it remove it on the points of contact.

I have been thinking of removing it all and polishing it up a bit but I probably won't as there really ins't a benefit.

I've been considering it just to get rid of the overspray and some of the machining marks. It's the only place they show; otherwise, the rifle seems well built and I've had not hiccups with it.

dooodstevenn
09-16-2012, 8:05 PM
i just picked up my rifle today and immediatly cleaned it out and shot a box of ammo through it. at times i was able to shoot maybe nickel size one hole groups benched at 40 feet (i assume its feet, the ground was just marked 10,20,30,40) with stock everything. I took it home after and cleaned it out again since it was filthy after 500 rounds and weakened the sear spring and took the trigger return out completely. i was going to cut a coil out of the hammer spring but i was having some hiccups at the range so i didnt want to take the chance, i will explain what happened below after this paragraph. after my mods i dropped it, hit it, etc. and the hammer did not drop. i did hit it hard enough that the bolt flew back and ejected the round though...picked it up and pulled the trigger and it went click, so all seems well!:D



range problem:

i would load ready to fire and pulled the trigger

i felt the click but nothing happened

i pulled again felt a click, nothing again

pulled, click and boom...round went off.


im not too sure what was happening...maybe i wasn't pulling the trigger hard enough? im thinking if its human error i might have been squezzing and just felt a fake click and thought that was the hammer dropping but was mistaken?

Chaos47
09-16-2012, 9:22 PM
Where you pulling the bolt back to recock it between each of those clicks?

If not then there is no way it actually tipped the sear. If the hammer dropped it would have to be recocked by pulling the bolt back. Apparently you where not pulling hard enough.

If you where actually tipping the sear and dropping the hammer and it did not go off then apparently you have lightened something too much. (Or had dud rounds)

You should be able to tell when the hammer drops, you should be able to hear it and feel it in the trigger as it will now have extra slack towards the rear (over travel)

Go ahead and dry fire your rifle a couple times and get a feel for the trigger and what it sounds like when the hammer drops. A few dryfires probably won't break anything even though its a 22lr, just don't dryfire it a bunch.

By removing the trigger return spring your trigger will feel more like a 2 stage trigger, you should take up the slack and press till the sear tips.

You weren't doing drop tests with a live round where you?!

dooodstevenn
09-16-2012, 9:58 PM
Where you pulling the bolt back to recock it between each of those clicks?

If not then there is no way it actually tipped the sear. If the hammer dropped it would have to be recocked by pulling the bolt back. Apparently you where not pulling hard enough.

If you where actually tipping the sear and dropping the hammer and it did not go off then apparently you have lightened something too much. (Or had dud rounds)

You should be able to tell when the hammer drops, you should be able to hear it and feel it in the trigger as it will now have extra slack towards the rear (over travel)

Go ahead and dry fire your rifle a couple times and get a feel for the trigger and what it sounds like when the hammer drops. A few dryfires probably won't break anything even though its a 22lr, just don't dryfire it a bunch.

By removing the trigger return spring your trigger will feel more like a 2 stage trigger, you should take up the slack and press till the sear tips.

You weren't doing drop tests with a live round where you?!

yeah, i think i was just not pressing hard enough. those problems were when it was all stock. after the range was when i did some trigger work. also no live rounds haha, got a pack of snap caps!

and will taking a coil out of my hammer spring make it any less reliable when striking? or is the factory spring a little over kill in the first place?

dooodstevenn
09-17-2012, 7:48 PM
so i did the hammer spring mod and tested it out on some snap caps...the new strikes are noticeably lighter but not by much. I went to the range today and shot some winchester super x ammo and had alot of FTF almost one in ever mag of 10 (something i did not have shooting remington golden ball ammo, which i should have kept to compare but i shot it all...) comparably i shot CCI mini-mags and only had 1 FTF out of a brick of 100. so im not too sure what is happening here whether it is the ammo or the hammer spring. i also noticed that the strikes on the winchester ammo was not as deep as the CCI which makes me think the CCI is more malleable and easier to set off? can anyone help me with this?


also look what i did at 50 feet! yeah yeah 50 feet not so impressive and the groups next to is are pretty bad but i was just sighting in and benched this shot to see if i was close.

http://i49.tinypic.com/14mxlic.jpg

elx144
09-18-2012, 10:10 AM
The front sight isn't plastic. It is metal. I don't recall which parts are plastic, but it didn't feel cheap or fragile. Maybe there were old versions that were. I got mine earlier this year.
I second this. Mine are all metal.

inbox485
09-18-2012, 1:10 PM
I second this. Mine are all metal.

I double checked mine. All parts are metal. If it were my design, there would be changes, but for what it is, it is good to go.

dooodstevenn
09-19-2012, 7:28 PM
got tech sights, they are indeed completely metal....also winchester super X .22 ammo SUCKS i had a bunch of FTF again, i tried it with a pack of remington golden ball, 200 rounds not one FTF so far

DasBoost
09-19-2012, 9:53 PM
got tech sights, they are indeed completely metal....also winchester super X .22 ammo SUCKS i had a bunch of FTF again, i tried it with a pack of remington golden ball, 200 rounds not one FTF so far

I preach MiniMags for the 795, also looking at the CCI Tactical as it's copper-plated and that's in 375rd bulk packs.

I've put around 250 rds of MiniMags through my 795 and only had 1 FTFire, perfect feeding and ejection, even with new mags (for a 22 with new mags, I was amazed!!!). Well worth the slight bump in price for better consistency, accuracy, and reliability.

dooodstevenn
09-19-2012, 10:16 PM
I preach MiniMags for the 795, also looking at the CCI Tactical as it's copper-plated and that's in 375rd bulk packs.

I've put around 250 rds of MiniMags through my 795 and only had 1 FTFire, perfect feeding and ejection, even with new mags (for a 22 with new mags, I was amazed!!!). Well worth the slight bump in price for better consistency, accuracy, and reliability.

the more and more i shoot the more i want to be super accurate so i think i will upgrade to using CCI and using remington or federal or the cheaper ammo to just shoot for the heck of it, to sight in i used CCI mini mag and i noticed it was alot more accurate than the winchester. how do the bulk cci compare the the min mags?

Gurney
09-20-2012, 10:39 PM
"If you want to get to know people, learn their music. Then learn their cooking. Then watch how your kids play together."

Hey, Gurney, this is a great saying or quote! Did you originate it?

Sorry to be slow in response, Shamazz - I haven't been around much the last few weeks. To answer your question, the ideas aren't original, but the phrasing and application is mine.

shamaz
09-21-2012, 9:38 AM
Hey, thanks, Gurney! Great ideas succinctly stated; part of the credo by which I live: great music, great food, and fun, safe play, some of it with firearms.

DasBoost
09-21-2012, 9:29 PM
the more and more i shoot the more i want to be super accurate so i think i will upgrade to using CCI and using remington or federal or the cheaper ammo to just shoot for the heck of it, to sight in i used CCI mini mag and i noticed it was alot more accurate than the winchester. how do the bulk cci compare the the min mags?

MiniMags are great; haven't shot bulk CCI, just MiniMags and going to try the CCI 'Tactical' 375rd bulk pack just to see how that fares. Only other .22 ammo (Out of other .22s) I have shot was Federal Bulk (not bad, but still FTE and feed) and Remington Golden Bullet Bulk and it was trash; FTE, FTFires, only thing they did consistently was feed.

roushstage2
09-21-2012, 10:46 PM
I shoot CCI bulk out of all of my .22s and don't recall every having a problem. Get pretty good accuracy too considering it's bulk. The Federal bulk was good too; I just got better accuracy with the CCI.

Yehosha
09-21-2012, 11:14 PM
Accessories

Scope Rings:

UTG "Airgun" .22 Integral Ring Mount
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Airgun-Profile-Integral-1-Inch/dp/B002TUSJV6
Note: Make sure to get the height and the tube size your scope needs

The dovetail rail is notorious for ring movement.
This integral ring will keep your scope solid.
Recommended to and from numerous 795 owners as the best ring option.
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41VCVPK6-CL._SL500_AA300_.jpg



So I bought this (http://www.amazon.com/Simmons-Truplex-Riflescope-3-9X32-Matte/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=wl_it_dp_o_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3POODAPWKK8JT&coliid=I1R94LJA322C1N) scope, how do I know what height and tube size those ring mounts need to be?

Chaos47
09-21-2012, 11:32 PM
So I bought this (http://www.amazon.com/Simmons-Truplex-Riflescope-3-9X32-Matte/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=wl_it_dp_o_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3POODAPWKK8JT&coliid=I1R94LJA322C1N) scope, how do I know what height and tube size those ring mounts need to be?

Google seems to say its a 1 inch tube (you might want to search some more for yourself to make sure)
Bell size is 32mm

Not sure if they make a low profile one, I think they say the medium profile is usually good up to 40mm

So I'd say a medium profile 1 inch tube is what you need:
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Airgun-Medium-Profile-Integral/dp/B002TUSJVQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1348298995&sr=1-1&keywords=UTG+Airgun+.22++Integral

roushstage2
09-22-2012, 12:06 AM
I'd say a medium profile 1 inch tube is what you need:
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-Airgun-Medium-Profile-Integral/dp/B002TUSJVQ/ref=sr_1_1?s=sporting-goods&ie=UTF8&qid=1348298995&sr=1-1&keywords=UTG+Airgun+.22++Integral
Agreed.

Chaos47
09-22-2012, 12:13 AM
I shoot CCI bulk out of all of my .22s and don't recall every having a problem. Get pretty good accuracy too considering it's bulk. The Federal bulk was good too; I just got better accuracy with the CCI.

This is exactly my results too.
I have never had any type of failure with CCI Blazer 525 Bulk.

Federal also works but groups 1 inch up and 2 to the right for my zero set for Blazer. The groups also open up a bit (up to double)

Never shot Minimags, the bulk works so good for me I have not felt the need to spend the extra dough..

Agreed.
Thanks for checking it out too! I'd hate to have someone order the wrong thing on account of me hah

roushstage2
09-22-2012, 1:13 AM
Yeah, NP. I've got a 40mm scope in the medium mount and it works.

kcheung2
09-22-2012, 5:14 PM
Hi all, new poster here. You can add me to the Marlin fanclub. Took my new 795 to the range today & it shot flawlessly. The CCI Tactical in the 375rd boxes work fine, I shot about 500 with no problems.

Only complaint I have is that I need some magazine loaders, loading that many rounds by hand hurts.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/snowballtoss/0922121233_zps5af969d6.jpg

dooodstevenn
09-22-2012, 6:01 PM
Hi all, new poster here. You can add me to the Marlin fanclub. Took my new 795 to the range today & it shot flawlessly. The CCI Tactical in the 375rd boxes work fine, I shot about 500 with no problems.

Only complaint I have is that I need some magazine loaders, loading that many rounds by hand hurts.

http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f161/snowballtoss/0922121233_zps5af969d6.jpg

baby uplula! theyre a bit pricey for a piece of plastic, but i say worth every penny. the first day i shot an entire box of 550 rounds and my thumbs might as well have been skinned. turners in so cal has them for about 35-40...i forget exactly how much i got mine for.

dooodstevenn
09-22-2012, 6:05 PM
speaking of scopes...i have a nikon prostaff 3-9x40 BDC on the way in the mail...ive also got tech sights...i want to have both mounted so if my scope fails for whatever reason ive still got tech sights so i was thinking of getting high rise/see through rings with a cheek rest to go through the scope, and take the cheek rest off to use the irons...does this sound good? or are there better ways about this? im only asking because ive read that see through scope mounts on a dovetail rail like to move around. :helpsmilie:

bombadillo
09-22-2012, 6:16 PM
speaking of scopes...i have a nikon prostaff 3-9x40 BDC on the way in the mail...ive also got tech sights...i want to have both mounted so if my scope fails for whatever reason ive still got tech sights so i was thinking of getting high rise/see through rings with a cheek rest to go through the scope, and take the cheek rest off to use the irons...does this sound good? or are there better ways about this? im only asking because ive read that see through scope mounts on a dovetail rail like to move around. :helpsmilie:

I have the scope in 3-9x40 and its an awesome scope. Has a little bit of a blue tint to it, but it really is a super clear optic. Built well, easy to use, and the BDC is great to use for any caliber. I'm using it on a .epi with a 22" barrel.

Panchira!
09-22-2012, 7:26 PM
Speaking of cci mini mags from the previous page. I had a bad brick of 100. I was about to toss them out! They were almost all delayed firing. Though my marlin had a problem. Switched out to another brick and worked flawlessly so I assume it was a bad batch. No biggie. Federal bulk pack works awesome for me, along with cci mini mags, will be testing out remmy n&i golden bullet next weekend.

I still can't get over the new stock! It's so awesome! I just wish the mags were a bit cheaper I need more! Hahahah

dooodstevenn
09-22-2012, 7:39 PM
Speaking of cci mini mags from the previous page. I had a bad brick of 100. I was about to toss them out! They were almost all delayed firing. Though my marlin had a problem. Switched out to another brick and worked flawlessly so I assume it was a bad batch. No biggie. Federal bulk pack works awesome for me, along with cci mini mags, will be testing out remmy n&i golden bullet next weekend.

I still can't get over the new stock! It's so awesome! I just wish the mags were a bit cheaper I need more! Hahahah

how much did you get your mags for? i got a few from turners for 15 each. i dont know if that's considered cheap, but it was 5 bucks less than bass pro

CharlesV
09-23-2012, 2:37 AM
So I bought this (http://www.amazon.com/Simmons-Truplex-Riflescope-3-9X32-Matte/dp/B000KOSB34/ref=wl_it_dp_o_nS_nC?ie=UTF8&colid=3POODAPWKK8JT&coliid=I1R94LJA322C1N) scope, how do I know what height and tube size those ring mounts need to be?

Ive read the reviews of that scope, some people complain the reticle breaks after a while and it wont hold zero. Apparently very good when new.

I thought the quality of .22 scopes (with no recoil!) has long been settled. Is there a brand line .22 shooters should stick with, like Nikon for example, and nevermind the cost? Or, do cheapies ordinarily work fine? A Simmons scope should not be falling apart under the non-stress of a .22!

Panchira!
09-23-2012, 1:16 PM
how much did you get your mags for? i got a few from turners for 15 each. i dont know if that's considered cheap, but it was 5 bucks less than bass pro

I ordered mine from midway. I checked turners when I bought it but they didn't have any nor knew if they were getting any in. I think I paid 15-16 bucks for them. I just wish they were like 5 bucks hahah

dooodstevenn
09-23-2012, 4:05 PM
any suggestions on a high rise mount/ring for a dovetail that doesn't walk? i plan to combine it with a cheek pad to make up the extra height to get a good cheek weld

dooodstevenn
09-23-2012, 4:05 PM
I ordered mine from midway. I checked turners when I bought it but they didn't have any nor knew if they were getting any in. I think I paid 15-16 bucks for them. I just wish they were like 5 bucks hahah

If only they were...the turners i went to actually had alot of them. I guess it just varies from location to location.

Chaos47
09-23-2012, 4:37 PM
Hi all, new poster here. You can add me to the Marlin fanclub. Took my new 795 to the range today & it shot flawlessly. The CCI Tactical in the 375rd boxes work fine, I shot about 500 with no problems.

Only complaint I have is that I need some magazine loaders, loading that many rounds by hand hurts.

Looks like a fun day!
As mentioned the babylula is probably the best option. I love my AKLula, been thinking of getting a babylula.

Theres also this http://www.thefirearmsforum.com/showthread.php?t=87177

speaking of scopes...i have a nikon prostaff 3-9x40 BDC on the way in the mail...ive also got tech sights...i want to have both mounted so if my scope fails for whatever reason ive still got tech sights so i was thinking of getting high rise/see through rings with a cheek rest to go through the scope, and take the cheek rest off to use the irons...does this sound good? or are there better ways about this? im only asking because ive read that see through scope mounts on a dovetail rail like to move around. :helpsmilie:

It's rarely ever advised to use see thru mounts. They don't do a good job with the scope and they don't do a good job with the sights. Even with the stock pack idea I would highly advise against them.

how much did you get your mags for? i got a few from turners for 15 each. i dont know if that's considered cheap, but it was 5 bucks less than bass pro

I get mine from CDNN, but they are out atm. They usually have them for 13.99 and often have shipping specials on the weekends

dooodstevenn
09-23-2012, 4:51 PM
any other solution, chaos? I don't want to be without sights if my scope goes down

also why in particular do you not like see throughs?

if i take off the rear iron sight to replace with a scope, when i put it back will it still be sighted in if the sight radius has been slighty changed?

Chaos47
09-23-2012, 10:16 PM
any other solution, chaos? I don't want to be without sights if my scope goes down

also why in particular do you not like see throughs?

if i take off the rear iron sight to replace with a scope, when i put it back will it still be sighted in if the sight radius has been slighty changed?

Why don't I like them?
I already stated that they do a bad job at both things.

They are going to raise your scope too high:
Poor cheek weld or improper weld such as a chin weld
When zeroing your scope you will have to crank it to compensate for the height. This is bad because you may "bottom out" that dial or not be able to adjust the scope for farther distances.

They do not give great sight pictures.

They might "walk" backwards off the rail.

Also are you even sure they make see thrus that high? I would think most are designed for blade sights which are considerably lower then techsights.

My solution? Pick one.
That is what most people will arrive at. Often people ask about see thru's some head warning some actually try them and figure it out for themselves.
You can leave the factory sights on and if your scope fails pull it off.
If you have to have both? Then get a 2nd rifle...

Also its not like you are going to battle with this or hunting a deer.
If your scope brakes then pull it off. Don't have tools? Well then you'll just have to deal with it when you get home.

If you have to try it then at least try to find a "1 piece" see thru mount so at least you won't have to worry about scope ring walking

dooodstevenn
09-23-2012, 11:27 PM
Why don't I like them?
I already stated that they do a bad job at both things.

They are going to raise your scope too high:
Poor cheek weld or improper weld such as a chin weld
When zeroing your scope you will have to crank it to compensate for the height. This is bad because you may "bottom out" that dial or not be able to adjust the scope for farther distances.

They do not give great sight pictures.

They might "walk" backwards off the rail.

Also are you even sure they make see thrus that high? I would think most are designed for blade sights which are considerably lower then techsights.

My solution? Pick one.
That is what most people will arrive at. Often people ask about see thru's some head warning some actually try them and figure it out for themselves.
You can leave the factory sights on and if your scope fails pull it off.
If you have to have both? Then get a 2nd rifle...

Also its not like you are going to battle with this or hunting a deer.
If your scope brakes then pull it off. Don't have tools? Well then you'll just have to deal with it when you get home.

If you have to try it then at least try to find a "1 piece" see thru mount so at least you won't have to worry about scope ring walking

ahh, i see. Ive been thinking of getting a second rifle anyways, maybe i'll just throw a scope on the more accurate one and irons on the lesser and keep the tech sights for apple seed. If i take the rear tech sight off and put it back on with a slightly different sight radius, will that effect the accuracy of them? (assuming the windage and elevation knobs have not been knocked out of its zero)

roushstage2
09-23-2012, 11:53 PM
The tech sights are upgraded iron sights, so I'm not sure why you would use factory iron sights and then only put the tech sights on for Appleseed? Put the tech sights on and leave them on. Most any time you remove an optic or sight, you will have to re-sight the rifle. The only time you can get away with that good enough for it to actually hit where you are aiming at is if you buy a very good mount (they will say you can remove and replace and maintain _____ MOA).

dooodstevenn
09-23-2012, 11:56 PM
The tech sights are upgraded iron sights, so I'm not sure why you would use factory iron sights and then only put the tech sights on for Appleseed? Put the tech sights on and leave them on. Most any time you remove an optic or sight, you will have to re-sight the rifle. The only time you can get away with that good enough for it to actually hit where you are aiming at is if you buy a very good mount (they will say you can remove and replace and maintain _____ MOA).

well, any suggestions to what to do with a scope and tech sights?

j.primo
09-24-2012, 12:02 AM
Just picked up the UTG mount recommended. Threw my prostaff on it I had from my .308 rifle. Going to try to sight it in Monday night.

roushstage2
09-24-2012, 2:42 PM
well, any suggestions to what to do with a scope and tech sights?
Keep the tech sights on the 795 (since they are not universal sights and won't fit other firearms) and pick up an XT-22 to put the scope on :cool:

dooodstevenn
09-24-2012, 6:32 PM
Keep the tech sights on the 795 (since they are not universal sights and won't fit other firearms) and pick up an XT-22 to put the scope on :cool:

thats exactly my plan! but im conflicted between a savage mark ii and the marlin xt-22. i was able to feel and hold the marlin and i really liked it, but ive been reading the savage is more proven since its been out longer and a bit more solid. but i think it's a bit subjective but i don't want to be missing out on something thats a better value for your money, i can't find a savage to hold and try out so far, and if i can't find one in a few days im just going to get the basic marlin

i also read the length of pull on the marlin is slightly shorter than the savage which makes me think that the savage would be too long for me since the marlin was perfect

Chaos47
09-24-2012, 6:56 PM
The savage being out longer is kinda not the whole truth...

The XT might only be a couple years old but it has a long history behind it.
Before it was the XT it was the 925 and before that the 25.
Marlin has a long history of renaming their rifles, which I have no idea why...

The XT adjustable trigger that is inspired by the Savages trigger is new.
Unproven? I've dry fired one and it was pretty light and had like no take up...

I don't know when the first 25 or MKII was made but I wouldn't doubt that the Marlin has actually been around longer...

Chaos47
09-24-2012, 6:56 PM
The savage being out longer is kinda not the whole truth...

The XT might only be a couple years old but it has a long history behind it.
Before it was the XT it was the 925 and before that the 25.
Marlin has a long history of renaming their rifles, which I have no idea why...

The XT adjustable trigger that is inspired by the Savages trigger is new.
Unproven? I've dry fired one and it was pretty light and had like no take up...

I don't know when the first 25 or MKII was made but I wouldn't doubt that the Marlin has actually been around longer...

MaHoTex
09-24-2012, 7:05 PM
I ordered the wood stock for the Model 70 and modified it for my 795. I dremel'd it out, sanded it to the bare bone, finished sanded back to 300 grit and then applied some ebony stain followed by 7 coats of Tru Oil. It came out sweet!

Ordered the DIP bolt, and black trigger guard and trigger and the Picatinny scope mount. Parts should be in by this weekend so I can finalize this M795 project. Woo Hoo.

dooodstevenn
09-24-2012, 7:06 PM
The savage being out longer is kinda not the whole truth...

The XT might only be a couple years old but it has a long history behind it.
Before it was the XT it was the 925 and before that the 25.
Marlin has a long history of renaming their rifles, which I have no idea why...

The XT adjustable trigger that is inspired by the Savages trigger is new.
Unproven? I've dry fired one and it was pretty light and had like no take up...

I don't know when the first 25 or MKII was made but I wouldn't doubt that the Marlin has actually been around longer...

you make a good point... i know the mark ii is free floated, is the same true with the marlin? can anyone else comment on whether or not the xt-22 is free floated?

Chaos47
09-24-2012, 7:18 PM
I ordered the wood stock for the Model 70 and modified it for my 795. I dremel'd it out, sanded it to the bare bone, finished sanded back to 300 grit and then applied some ebony stain followed by 7 coats of Tru Oil. It came out sweet!

Ordered the DIP bolt, and black trigger guard and trigger and the Picatinny scope mount. Parts should be in by this weekend so I can finalize this M795 project. Woo Hoo.

Sounds awesome! We need photos of the stock!
:useless:

you make a good point... i know the mark ii is free floated, is the same true with the marlin? can anyone else comment on whether or not the xt-22 is free floated?

Not sure if it does or not.

Its really not hard to free float a barrel:
Tape the sides of the barrel channel with masking tape. (To protect finish if you slip)
Find a socket wrench socket (deep preferably) that fits into the barrel channel well.
Wrap a piece of sandpaper around it and use nice even strokes.

Takes like 5 minutes.
Go slow and test fit, when you can slip a dollar under it you are good!

See here:
http://www.rimfirecentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=411731&page=5

Not all plastic stocks have a clear defined channel, just sand the sides and any places of contact on the bottom.

roushstage2
09-24-2012, 7:44 PM
The XT-22 is not free-floated from the factory. Does it need it? I'm not going to bother. Plenty of accurate enough, even when using bulk ammo. I might buy some match ammo one day just for the heck of it.

dooodstevenn
09-24-2012, 8:36 PM
The XT-22 is not free-floated from the factory. Does it need it? I'm not going to bother. Plenty of accurate enough, even when using bulk ammo. I might buy some match ammo one day just for the heck of it.

so i see many are marlin fans here huh? :p

if you do, please post the results!

dooodstevenn
09-24-2012, 11:44 PM
at the moment im leaning towards marlin. even though its not free floated i watched nutnfancy's review of it, and he's getting nickel size groups with CCI mini mag at 50 yards, and if i really wanted, some sanding would free float my barrel like chaos said.

dooodstevenn
09-24-2012, 11:45 PM
at the moment im leaning towards marlin. even though its not free floated i watched nutnfancy's review of it, and he's getting nickel size groups with CCI mini mag at 50 yards, and if i really wanted, some sanding would free float my barrel like chaos said.

roushstage2
09-25-2012, 12:02 AM
I can't find the picture anymore of my groups with the XT-22 and CCI bulk ammo. :( I may have another target somewhere...

MaHoTex
09-25-2012, 6:08 AM
Sounds awesome! We need photos of the stock!
:useless:


I have to figure out how to post a picture first, but I will get a picture online as soon as that happens.

Grey1one
09-25-2012, 10:06 AM
I have to figure out how to post a picture first, but I will get a picture online as soon as that happens.


Here you go.

http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=86685

Hallucinosis
09-25-2012, 12:43 PM
Picked up a 795ss earlier this year (several months ago) and I've put about 1500 rounds through it. Great rifle. I took it apart and polished the insides before I ever took it shooting. It functions flawlessly for me--my only problems have been due to bad ammo.

40SWGlock
09-25-2012, 3:46 PM
I like how these Boyd stocks look. How much more weight do they add to the riffle.
That's of the main things I like about the 795, how light it is. After shooting it standing all day at the indoor range I appreciated the low weight even more. Why I've kept it stock without adding a single thing.
But dam those Boyd stock sure look good.

MaHoTex
09-25-2012, 4:11 PM
This stock was purchased from Numrich and is for the Model 70. I posted earlier what I did to it: Dremeled a lot of material out, stripped it down, then sanded to 300 grit, applied Ebony stain, then 7 coats of Tru Oil. Here are the results of several days of work:

Here are the Pictures of my wooden stock for the Marlin 795:

http://imageshack.us/a/img829/5629/1003061.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img829/9231/1003053b.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img196/1171/1003060m.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img820/4707/1003059e.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img89/4210/1003058n.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img209/6583/1003057z.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img32/3735/1003056a.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img255/4001/1003055.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img38/9886/1003054l.jpg

Raptor3000
09-25-2012, 5:56 PM
I went to pick up my Marlin 795 yesterday from turners, but found that the front sight is little canted. Did any one experienced this in 795s? Store is getting me a replacement.

MaHoTex
09-25-2012, 7:06 PM
I went to pick up my Marlin 795 yesterday from turners, but found that the front sight is little canted. Did any one experienced this in 795s? Store is getting me a replacement.

I had the same problem. I had to send it back to Marlin for repair. Came back perfect, but it sucks for a brand new rifle to come like that.

dooodstevenn
09-25-2012, 7:39 PM
keeping with the marlin .22's i got the xt-22 just felt better in the hands, the savage felt too thin like the 795 but the xt-22 had some nice palm swells that fit very nicely :) now just gotta wait my 10 days

roushstage2
09-25-2012, 9:24 PM
Congrats on the XT-22! Perhaps we'll just have to have our own thread about 'em!

Chaos47
09-25-2012, 11:44 PM
Picked up a 795ss earlier this year (several months ago) and I've put about 1500 rounds through it. Great rifle. I took it apart and polished the insides before I ever took it shooting. It functions flawlessly for me--my only problems have been due to bad ammo.

Congrats! It seems you don't see too many SS models out there so that's a nice change.

I like how these Boyd stocks look. How much more weight do they add to the riffle.
That's of the main things I like about the 795, how light it is. After shooting it standing all day at the indoor range I appreciated the low weight even more. Why I've kept it stock without adding a single thing.
But dam those Boyd stock sure look good.

My Tacticool seems a little heavy (lots of wood) but it is hard to tell because the scope is heavy.
My GF's target hunter is not too heavy its really well balanced.

I would defiantly say they are worth it. Looks alone it changes the rifle so much but the added rigidity makes them more accurate imo

This stock was purchased from Numrich and is for the Model 70. I posted earlier what I did to it: Dremeled a lot of material out, stripped it down, then sanded to 300 grit, applied Ebony stain, then 7 coats of Tru Oil. Here are the results of several days of work:

Here are the Pictures of my wooden stock for the Marlin 795:

Looks great! Good job!

I went to pick up my Marlin 795 yesterday from turners, but found that the front sight is little canted. Did any one experienced this in 795s? Store is getting me a replacement.

I have heard that a few early MM generation Remington made had this problem. That they had over tightened the barrel and thus canting the sight. I have a MM with a serial number around 4000 so that is pretty low and its prefect so it wasn't all of them..
That is good that they are just going to get you a different one at the store level.

keeping with the marlin .22's i got the xt-22 just felt better in the hands, the savage felt too thin like the 795 but the xt-22 had some nice palm swells that fit very nicely :) now just gotta wait my 10 days

Nice! Congrats! Which model did you end up with? Wood or Plastic, Mag or tube?

Congrats on the XT-22! Perhaps we'll just have to have our own thread about 'em!

Not a bad idea! :D
There are wood stocks for them (but I hear you need to order a 925 trigger guard)
It would be good to start a thread about that and other suggested parts like scope bases, rings, and maybe mods?

I hope to join the XT-22 Club before Christmas..
Funny thing is I am seriously thinking about putting it in a tacticool stock too.

Raptor3000
09-26-2012, 7:37 AM
is XT-22 better than 795?

MaHoTex
09-26-2012, 8:18 AM
is XT-22 better than 795?

Can not really compare them. They are two differnt guns, 795 being an autoloader an the XT being a bolt gun. A better comaprison would be the 925 to the XT-22.

Raptor3000
09-26-2012, 8:26 AM
are both equally accurate? i am gonna put tech sights on the 795.

inbox485
09-26-2012, 8:57 AM
are both equally accurate? i am gonna put tech sights on the 795.

I'm convinced that most of the 22 rifles on the market are more accurate than the ammo available commercially. Auto loaders are favored for Appleseed, so I couldn't comment on the bolt actions, but I've yet to hear anybody claim that there was a clear accuracy winner between a 10/22 vs 795. It is possible there is a bolt action vs auto-loader benefit as there is with centerfire rifles, but again, I doubt it would make a difference with any commercial .22 ammo. The focus is more on which loads each rifle likes the most and which are the most consistent.

Raptor3000
09-26-2012, 9:02 AM
thanks, i prefer auto loader so will stick to 795.

Chaos47
09-26-2012, 12:16 PM
As others have said its not really a fair comparison Bolt vs Semi auto. Apple and Oranges. M14 vs M16

Inherently bolt action are supposed to be more accurate because of design.
Not that semi autos can't be accurate I can shoot dime size groups with my 795 at 25yards using a bipod. That's good enough for me.

Bolt action is just a different feel, sometimes its fun to go slower and manually manipulate the action.

There is room for both IMO.

inbox485
09-26-2012, 12:26 PM
I can shoot dime size groups with my 795 at 25yards using a bipod. That's good enough for me.



This

To get any better with anything in .22 LR, you are looking at hand loading. Like sorting brass and bullets by grain weight, and using a diamond scale for the powder weight. Swapping to bolt action won't fix this.

roushstage2
09-26-2012, 2:33 PM
Not a bad idea! :D
There are wood stocks for them (but I hear you need to order a 925 trigger guard)
It would be good to start a thread about that and other suggested parts like scope bases, rings, and maybe mods?

I hope to join the XT-22 Club before Christmas..
Funny thing is I am seriously thinking about putting it in a tacticool stock too.
I might start working on one then! I do like the look of the tacticool stock, but the Rimfire Hunter is available and I love the Pepper Laminate :cool:

This

To get any better with anything in .22 LR, you are looking at hand loading. Like sorting brass and bullets by grain weight, and using a diamond scale for the powder weight. Swapping to bolt action won't fix this.
Hand loading .22LR?

dooodstevenn
09-26-2012, 6:30 PM
Chaos, I went with the regular synthetic/blued version. I love wood but I hate it when my wood stock guns get knicked and scratched.

dooodstevenn
09-26-2012, 7:17 PM
I might start working on one then! I do like the look of the tacticool stock, but the Rimfire Hunter is available and I love the Pepper Laminate :cool:


Hand loading .22LR?

i think me means reloading your own .22

dooodstevenn
09-26-2012, 7:30 PM
I just saw the rimfire MOA match thread...looks like something I want to try when school settles down!

roushstage2
09-26-2012, 11:34 PM
i think me means reloading your own .22

I know what he means :)

dooodstevenn
09-27-2012, 8:07 AM
I know what he means :)

oh...:D

firebert
09-27-2012, 6:43 PM
I had my 795 for about 2 months. Only took it out to the range once. The two things I am not a big fan of is the synthetic stock and the trigger pull.

The weight of the synthetic stock is nice but the palm swell is too narrow for me. I want the Boyds Tacticool but unfortunately its been discontinued.

As for the trigger I'm not sure if I should get the MCARBO kit or the fogcitytactical spring mod.
http://www.mcarbo.com/products.htm

Chaos47
09-27-2012, 8:15 PM
Personally I would do the fogcitytactical spring mod if you are comfortable with it. (Your going to have to tear down the action just as far either way)
I've done it on a couple rifles and the trigger pull on them is great.
30 Bucks is pretty steep for a couple springs... you could get a DIP drop in trigger for 10 bucks less then that... or Target trigger and guard for double that.

fogcitytactical spring mod plus target trigger is what I run and I have a great pull IMO.


I do love my Tacticool stock. What I hated about the original stock was the cowboy look of the checkering.

I was going to do a marinetex texture job on it like they do on high end sniper rifles but then I got my Tacticool.
http://www.accurateshooter.com/stocks/how-to-apply-grip-texture-to-gunstocks/

Still thinking about painting the Tacticool OD green and doing black texturing on it..

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb5/FRIED303/Marine_Tex/Marine_tex_stock010.jpg

You could do 2 stages of marinetex, one to add girth and after its set do a second with texture

Panchira!
09-27-2012, 8:31 PM
Well I pulled the trigger on some dip stuff earlier this week. I got the trigger/guard combo and the spiral charging handle. Well I was quite disappointed upon fitment. The charging handle didn't fit at all. But I can not blame dip I blame marlin for their loose tolerances. the sides of the charging handle slots in the bolt were off a bit. A bit tight at the bottom like this \_/ a little sanding with 220 and some polishing it's now like this |_| and the handle slides in with minimal clearances. No slop at all! My god it feels so different! I did opt to round a corner of the handle that dings the frame.

Now onto the trigger and guard. The guard was flawless. Fit perfect. BUT the trigger was another story. The safety would not lock because the tang on the trigger was not flush with the safety hole. No biggie very gently dremel work and it slides right in. I say this is a PITA as I don't know how comfy people are with messing with safety stuff. Once that was done the safety worked flawlessly. Adjusting the allen set screws was next. Guesstimated where the trigger contact would be and it was spot on! What luck! Then set the trigger stop, done charge and test WOW it is amazing. I didn't change any springs and the pull is the same weight but the throw is sooooooo short! Test time will be sat pics to follow.

At this point I'm done with mods for the marlin with the exception of more mags or a scope. Ok we'll maybe not done yet looking into a better buffer setup.

John3:16
09-27-2012, 8:40 PM
[QUOTE]http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz4/ginab92021/IMG-20120926-00363.jpg[IMG]http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz4/ginab92021/IMG-20120926-00364.jpg

I enjoy this thread and i just wanted to show you guys what i did last night. Tell me what you think. Oh and i didn't whant to paint the barrel

John3:16
09-27-2012, 8:41 PM
http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz4/ginab92021/IMG-20120926-00364.jpg

mindwreck
09-27-2012, 8:44 PM
where does everybody get their mags? i can't find them anywhere. local turners never has them in stock

John3:16
09-27-2012, 8:53 PM
i just saw two at the turners in clairmont mesa. yesterday

John3:16
09-27-2012, 8:53 PM
http://i808.photobucket.com/albums/zz4/ginab92021/IMG-20120926-00363.jpg

John3:16
09-27-2012, 8:54 PM
give me feed back on my first cammo job

Grey1one
09-27-2012, 9:30 PM
Looks good, hope no paint got into the mag, would suck if it hangs/jams.

John3:16
09-27-2012, 9:51 PM
i taped it up very good. but i will find out after i shoot it

Chaos47
09-27-2012, 10:30 PM
Well I pulled the trigger on some dip stuff earlier this week. I got the trigger/guard combo and the spiral charging handle. Well I was quite disappointed upon fitment. The charging handle didn't fit at all. But I can not blame dip I blame marlin for their loose tolerances. the sides of the charging handle slots in the bolt were off a bit. A bit tight at the bottom like this \_/ a little sanding with 220 and some polishing it's now like this |_| and the handle slides in with minimal clearances. No slop at all! My god it feels so different! I did opt to round a corner of the handle that dings the frame.


I had to fit both of the charging handles that I got, one pre one post. Took a while but enabled me to get a custom fit. Looks great and feels great. Worth it even with the fitting IMO. The original bolt handle is so ugly! I would rather it have the claw handle old M60's had.
I had no trouble with my trigger, glad you got it fit.

where does everybody get their mags? i can't find them anywhere. local turners never has them in stock

I get mine from CDNN, but they have been out.
http://www.cdnninvestments.com/mabopre88au2.html
The old 795 thread has many magazine vendors listed on the last couple pages.
Give it a look http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=171319

give me feed back on my first cammo job

Looks good, post it in the gallery too!
http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=173536

John3:16
09-28-2012, 6:15 AM
thanks

MaHoTex
09-28-2012, 12:49 PM
I had to fit both of the charging handles that I got, one pre one post. Took a while but enabled me to get a custom fit. Looks great and feels great. Worth it even with the fitting IMO. The original bolt handle is so ugly! I would rather it have the claw handle old M60's had.
I had no trouble with my trigger, glad you got it fit.

I installed my DIP stuff yesterday. I am bummed with the charging handle. I filed to much off and now it is a bit loose.
Looks like I am out the $20 for another, or I will just have to try and live with it. I really was not expecting to have to remove material to make it fit.

SAD...SAD... SAD... :(

Chaos47
09-28-2012, 12:57 PM
I installed my DIP stuff yesterday. I am bummed with the charging handle. I filed to much off and now it is a bit loose.
Looks like I am out the $20 for another, or I will just have to try and live with it. I really was not expecting to have to remove material to make it fit.

SAD...SAD... SAD... :(

How loose are we talking? Some looseness is not bad, in fact it will enable you to do the manual lock to the rear easier..

Yea I don't know what happened people used to say they where drop in but I got a pre and post version (They didn't have any while helical ones for my GF's rifle in pre size) So I fully expected to have to fit that one but not mine. Had to do them booth a good amount. Did it really slow and check fit it often.

On the front page I have a note that I had to fit mine. I will make it more bold.

MaHoTex
09-28-2012, 1:10 PM
How loose are we talking? Some looseness is not bad, in fact it will enable you to do the manual lock to the rear easier..

Yea I don't know what happened people used to say they where drop in but I got a pre and post version (They didn't have any while helical ones for my GF's rifle in pre size) So I fully expected to have to fit that one but not mine. Had to do them booth a good amount. Did it really slow and check fit it often.

On the front page I have a note that I had to fit mine. I will make it more bold.

It is not real bad, but it is not nearly as tight at the factory original. I just got carried away on the filing; totally my fault. The one I got has the silver helical, and it does look really nice. I may just order another and file very carefully this time. I already dropped $120 last week at DIP (got the trigger + guards, bolt, and scope mount) Messed up this piece, so now I have to drop another $26. Plus, I just finished my wood stock, so there was another $55. Point being, all this money on a $125 rifle.

Everyone has to have a hobby I guess.

firebert
09-28-2012, 9:48 PM
hope Boyds brings back the Taticool stock.. I need one of those in my life.

dooodstevenn
09-28-2012, 11:00 PM
I noticed some of the boyds stocks say they are mean't for "heavy barrels" does this have to be entirely true? if i have the normal barrel will it just free float?

roushstage2
09-28-2012, 11:32 PM
Yes

CharlesV
09-29-2012, 10:00 AM
Regarding UTG scope profiles,
In Amazon some complain the medium profile wont take a 40mm scope and others didnt have issues. So a 40mm seems to be on the borderline of high and medium profiles depending on the individual scope. If i take the high profile to end the argument, do i start of new problem of the high profile raising the scope too high and losing cheek weld, wrong sight picture, etc? Im on Amazon right now and need to decide this. I dont have a scope yet.

roushstage2
09-29-2012, 11:18 AM
I'd say there is that possibility. Perhaps those with 40mm scopes that "don't fit" have lens caps on? I don't think I could fit them on mine. I'd have to go look to be certain though.

CharlesV
09-29-2012, 11:57 AM
For example, if i buy the UTG 3-12X40 scope, will the medium profile fit and be otherwise correct for the 60/795?

Scope
http://www.amazon.com/UTG-3-12X40-Mil-dot-Locking-Resetting/dp/B0053EQN54/ref=pd_ecc_rvi_cart_2

I dont know if complainers used lens caps or not but dont you want to? So, if caps wont fit the medium, then gotta go high. See, its right on the borderline.

PS...in the UTG line is the 4-16X40 preferred for any reason?

Chaos47
09-29-2012, 1:43 PM
Yes 40mm is the border

There is really know way to be sure if a scope and rings will fit a particular rifle over the web.
If someone has done it they can chime in.
Otherwise you will just have to try it.

Are you looking at reviews particular to the 795? The rifle design and shape also come in play. The height of the receiver and the height of the barrel.

I run high rings on my 50mm. Cheek weld is not a problem but then again I have a higher comb on my stock and a stock pack. There is a bit of gap even with my 50mm with caps on between the scope and barrel.

If I had to do it over again I would probably just buy both and see what fits and then either return the other or keep it for a future rifle.

CharlesV
09-29-2012, 9:41 PM
The reviews i read included air guns, 10/22 and 795 and when the parts fit the owners were very happy.

Reviews of the UTG scope didnt use the UTG mount, and users of the mounts didnt use UTG scopes so there isnt a way to see how this goes together. Also, the scope info doesnt say that the scope in fact included rings which people changed to other rings and not UTG. Strange.

Chaos47
09-29-2012, 10:01 PM
That is my point you can't let a few unhappy reviews influence you when you have incomplete or even inaccurate information.

You can not assume that because it did not fit on a 10/22 or an airgun (with who knows what scope) that it won't fit on a 795.

You will have to use your best guess and order the parts that you feel will fit. That's what everyone else has done and it has worked out for all of us.

All I can tell you is that the mount works and is highly recommended.
I can also tell you the UTG scope I have is great, are all UTG scopes? No idea.

CharlesV
09-30-2012, 6:48 AM
I agree 100% chaos.

To clarify, owners of 10/22 and 795 DID say everything was fine as to medium mounts. The problem arose when owners of certain 40mm scopes said the bells didnt clear the barrels--but they didnt say which scopes. Also, owners of UTG scopes loved the scopes but had fit problems with Brand X mounts. I havent seen any reviews of 795 owners using both UTG products at the same time.

(haha we're doing finite math here, with overlapping shaded circles!)

Obviously the best way is to install mounts and take the whole thing to a shop and one by one put on different scopes and take the one that fits. Id like to avoid that by scaring up more comments.

The only complaint about UTG scopes is the increased weight compared to others. Some dont like mil dots, some find illuminated reticles useless. But nobody hates the brand.

Panchira!
09-30-2012, 4:38 PM
So I took the marlin out yesterday for some paper punching with the fiancée. We decided to try out and use the rem n&i golden bullet bulk 225 rnd box. Everything was great! All the dip stuff worked great but my trigger stop set screw came loose but backed it out and no more issues. Ammo performed great until around 100-150 rounds. I started to get funky ejection issues pics to follow. I don't know if these were caused my a faulty ejector or spring but it happened 3 time, the 2nd time the case still have some burning powder and burnt my pinky a tiny bit. Casings were being ejected low forward towards the ground like this \.

Other then that it was great! We had fun shot all rounds. After we were done we stopped by turners to check out some scopes for my tikka. Asked if they had any mags for the 795 and low and behold they had 3! I bought 2 they were 14 bucks! They have one left unless someone bought it (Rancho cucamonga store).

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/SW203SGTE/BEF4997D-D29E-4CD3-BCF9-3BC4F8DE6EA5-1553-000001CB43644DA3.jpg

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/SW203SGTE/BA5FA5B2-BE40-4F7F-991F-BF58DB437959-1553-000001CB4A330E4E.jpg

This one burnt me:

http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l13/SW203SGTE/5D2367ED-D699-4C94-820E-EB70E535358F-1553-000001CB5089D573.jpg

All 3 time this happened a new round was picked off the mag so I don't think it's a issue with pulling the case out of the chamber maybe it bounced off the charging handle? Or off the butt stock or wall?

Chaos47
09-30-2012, 5:06 PM
Sounds like a good day!
I would put a dab of blue loctite on your set screws if you haven't.

The Stovepipes my first gut reaction is to blame the Remington golden bullets.
I would try another ammo and try to replicate it.

Using CCI Blazer my casings almost all ways go like 7 feet straight to the right. Great for pelting the person next to me haha

Panchira!
09-30-2012, 6:09 PM
Yes I was figuring it was the golden bullet. But I have changed to much to put 100% blame on ammo. We will go out again this weekend and ill try the federals. I have had zero issues with them. Oh it was a beyond great day. The range time was soo relaxing! The stuck ejected casings didn't bother us or worry me to much.

CharlesV
10-01-2012, 12:38 AM
Chaos,
Is your UTG scope on a 795 or other gun?
Which scope do you have? Do you recommend a 4-16 over a 3-12?
If you put it on a 795 did the included mounts work ok or did you change to medium profile mounts?

Chaos47
10-01-2012, 12:01 PM
CharlesV seem you are going in circles and way over thinking this.

We have provided you with all the facts about these mounts we can.
You need to use your best judgement on what will fit and then just pull the trigger and order them and see if it works.

If you look at the first page you would see my setup.
Yes it is on a 795.
I have a UTG 3-9x 50mm R/G Illuminated A/O Scope and UTG 1 piece high profile mount.
3-9x is recommended by Appleseed if you use a scope there.
It is said if you have too much magnification you start to chase perfect alignment and jerk the trigger when you have it. 3-9x served me shooting out to ~350 yards.
I plan on getting an XT-22 and scoping it, I will probably get another UTG maybe a 40mm obj with a higher magnification to save on weight. If not probably the same one I already have.
The scope I got did not have included mounts. Included mounts are usually rubbish.
I guessed and purchased the high profile version of the 1 piece mount I advocate.

Both the scope and mounts have served me well. I have been using it for over a year, many many trips to the range, ~5k shots thru it, shot out to ~350 yards, stood up to the blast wave of a 50BMG going off next to it all day long, I like the AO and the R/G, mount has never walked, scope has kept its zero.

http://www.renbergphotography.com/photo/chaos_rifle/Chaos_795-004.jpg

This photo shows the gap I have between my barrel and scope.
Its a tad more then I would like but I do not think its too much.
More photos here: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showpost.php?p=7410968&postcount=38


Whats the worst thing that can happen if you order the wrong height rings?
Keep em and be out 15 bucks or send them back and get the high profile?

guns_and_music
10-01-2012, 12:12 PM
Wow a whole forum for the 795 .... which I have one of lol. Color me impressed.

CharlesV
10-01-2012, 12:45 PM
Chaos,

Seems i AM going in circles but it got you to write the best post ever on the topic! Sometimes when something is so clear to us its hard to understand that its not common knowledge to everyone. So in my case i keep going until i get to the meat of the thing, which i did.

You should make your post a sticky because it has all essentials about the topic of scopes and i DO thank you for going to the trouble. I got it now.

Its good advice to get both mounts in this case to solve the borderline problem and i'll take the lower magnification. Ive only had two scopes in my life and didnt know a 3-9 could go out to 350 yds, i thought 150, actually.

Chaos47
10-01-2012, 12:57 PM
It wasn't clear to me in the beginning either. I did a ton of research and then took the leap and got the scope and mount.

It wasn't pin point accuracy by any means at 350 yards but I was hitting a ~2.5x2.5 foot steel plate. But I could defiantly see it at 9x...

If you want higher magnification don't let me stop you. Like I said when I scope my XT-22 I might get a higher magnification but at the same time get a smaller objective. My 3-9x 50mm has some weight to it, heavier then a comparable scope? I have no idea.

Glad my post helped.

I think I will use one of the reserved posts on the front page to talk about scopes. So I will work on compiling a list of scopes people have suggested for the 795 in the past.

CharlesV
10-01-2012, 6:03 PM
Ok! So going in circles has a point sometimes doesnt it. It gets people so annoyed they cave in and spill the beans ;)

Yes i also am running around everywhere for info but i'll take what i have and dive in. On the weekend i'll have both a 60 and 795 and plan to outfit them differently.

Chaos i respect your knowledge and time. There are newcomers everyday and everyone needs to learn from the ground up.

inbox485
10-01-2012, 9:13 PM
That would be the GI web sling. Every shoot boss I've seen gets them in bulk from CMP and sells them at the events for $10-$12 which is cheaper than ANYWHERE else even before shipping, and they are better than the new production knockoffs. One of the first things you will learn if you go is how to use the sling. If you get 1.25" swivels in advance, and email the site coordinator before going they will square you away. By halfway into the first day, you will have the right type of sling set up the right way, and you'll know the three main ways of using it. It is hard to describe by text, and practicing wrong will be a disservice, so just go. Don't worry about trying to pre-learn or "practice".

j.primo
10-01-2012, 9:25 PM
I have the UTG medium mount with a 3x9x40 prostaff

CharlesV
10-01-2012, 10:09 PM
Thanks inbox...thats good to know to get swivels in advance and a GI sling at the event.

Thanks j. primo, im glad to know that.

Raptor3000
10-02-2012, 4:24 PM
I went back again to pick up my 795 for second time, even this one has canted front sight. Turners was very good and offered me to either take my money back or try one more time. I have to wait for one more week now. Did quality of Marlin go down recently?

If the 3rd also have bad front sight, i might get a Ruger 10/22, how are the sights on 10/22? do you need to replace them or factory ones are good?

How is it 10/22 compared to 795?

please advice.

Chaos47
10-02-2012, 4:58 PM
Please, lets not get into a 795 vs 10/22 debate in this thread.
It has been gone over many many times. Do a search there is a lot on that topic. Or start a new thread.

That being said the factory sights on both are about the same crappy basic good enough to get by with factory sights.

I am sad to hear that you have run into bad luck on these. Why can't the store get more then one in stock so you can take your pick?

CharlesV
10-02-2012, 5:42 PM
Besides the sights, what should a buyer of a 60 or 795 inspect for prior to buying?

roushstage2
10-02-2012, 6:44 PM
I give the overall firearm a once over, specifically the finish of everything to make sure it is the way it should be. On firearms that have a magazine, I'll insert it and remove it a few times to make sure it works without issue, along with the mag release. I'll work the safety and make sure the trigger can't be pulled with it on. I'll check the bolt hold-back and release, or bolt function and feel if a bolt action. Check and make sure everything that should be there, is.

readysetgo
10-02-2012, 7:00 PM
I heard Marlin 795 owners are more generous than those fire breathing 10/22 guys! (they've got bigger mega threads, that's for sure) ;)

Have you guys checked out this thread: http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/showthread.php?t=616680

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Could really use all of our help, like right now. Maybe skip that next accesory for a few weeks? What say you noble 795 riflemen?

Chaos47
10-02-2012, 10:48 PM
I give the overall firearm a once over, specifically the finish of everything to make sure it is the way it should be. On firearms that have a magazine, I'll insert it and remove it a few times to make sure it works without issue, along with the mag release. I'll work the safety and make sure the trigger can't be pulled with it on. I'll check the bolt hold-back and release, or bolt function and feel if a bolt action. Check and make sure everything that should be there, is.

This plus I check the crown and make sure its free of defects.

I inspect my firearms at the time of paperwork and also again at pickup.

xtian13
10-02-2012, 11:45 PM
Sounds like a good day!
I would put a dab of blue loctite on your set screws if you haven't.

The Stovepipes my first gut reaction is to blame the Remington golden bullets.
I would try another ammo and try to replicate it.

Using CCI Blazer my casings almost all ways go like 7 feet straight to the right. Great for pelting the person next to me haha

Agreed on the remington ammo. My 795 don't like remington. (thunderbolts IIRC) so far it's the only ammo i've experienced this issue with consistently. Went back to Federal and haven't had one for around 1,000rds.

xtian13
10-02-2012, 11:48 PM
Chaos: I haven't cleaned my 795 in at least 1,500-2,000 rds and I feel like it has been shooting better lately? Or maybe I'm just crazy. Is this similar to your experience of your 795 liking to run "dry?"

I came close to cleaning last week, but after looking at one of my targets from earlier that day, I just couldn't bring myself to do it! :rofl2:

roushstage2
10-03-2012, 12:58 AM
Rimfire firearms tend to be more accurate when they are a little dirty. I have always seen it recommended to shoot some fouling shots before matches or precision shooting if the barrel/rifle was cleaned beforehand. The other rule of thumb with rimfires is generally to not clean them until they start to lose accuracy. Of course, I clean mine all of the time so I refer back to the first rule I posted.

Running a firearm wet or dry is talking about how much lubricant is on it. Running a firearm "dry" means just having a light film of oil on the moving parts. You obviously don't want the firearm to actually be dry- cleaning it but not lubricating it when you are done. "Wet" means there is a [heavy] coating of lubricant. Like is said with centerfire AR platforms: run it wet!

For example (someone's out of focus Google image picture):
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/aa273/SinlesSorrow/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_5790_zpsea5c1483.jpg

Chaos47
10-03-2012, 1:16 AM
^exactly

I clean mine with CLP and take most of it off with a patch. The parts still have a thin coat and a shine to them. I rarely will put one drop of oil on around the bolt.

If you think about it there are hundreds of thousands of M60 and 795 that have probably never been cleaned or oiled and they work just fine.

Me? I clean every firearm after every range trip. Do they need it? Probably not but I enjoy doing it hah.

xtian13
10-03-2012, 6:15 AM
Thanks for the tips gents.

If there are any new shooters lurking in this thread that are on the fence about the 795, let me tell ya, GO FOR IT! You will NOT regret it!

The 795 was my first rifle and I will probably never sell this thing. Hell, I might even buy another to put on a scope on. (currently running tech sights on mine)

I'll post a pic one of these days.

inbox485
10-03-2012, 10:01 AM
I went back again to pick up my 795 for second time, even this one has canted front sight. Turners was very good and offered me to either take my money back or try one more time. I have to wait for one more week now. Did quality of Marlin go down recently?

Based on my experience, yes, Marlin quality control has gone to crap, and based on the history of other companies bought out by their new owners, I don't expect Marlin to ever deserve their reputation for quality ever again.

If the 3rd also have bad front sight, i might get a Ruger 10/22, how are the sights on 10/22? do you need to replace them or factory ones are good?

How is it 10/22 compared to 795?

By design, the 10/22 vs 795 is a rimfire .22. Couldn't care less which is which. You can listen to fanbois blather about which is better and why till long after even the 9mm vs .45 debates die off. But, the simple fact that you now seem to be rolling the dice on if a new marlin will be serviceable, I won't be buying a new Marlin anything. Either used or Ruger from here on out, and it will be more a question of availability than which is "better".

The sights on either are stock rimfire sights. In other words, they are plenty accurate to minute of rabbit, but you may want to upgrade for things like Appleseed.

CharlesV
10-03-2012, 7:01 PM
I agree Marlin has gone down but after an action job I asked for at the time of buying, my 30-30 seems perfect. One thing, id like to replace any "fake" metal parts with older steel parts, thats all.

But in fairness, a 60/795 is only $150, not $600. Really what do people expect for $150 nowadays? Doing the internal upgrades and fixes would make it into a finer gun. Lets say you then have $300 in it. Whats wrong with that? Is the complaint here that Marlin give give a $300 gun for $150? Or that regardless of price it wasnt fantastic to start out with?

Raptor3000
10-03-2012, 8:32 PM
Guys,

I didn't want to wait for one more week to check the 3rd one, so went to Turners today with my tech sights to check if the stock sights are canted or the hole drilled in the barrel is off. Luckily it was the stock sight that was crap not the threaded hole, so picked up the 795 :-)

Do i need to clean it before i take it to the range?

thanks

Chaos47
10-03-2012, 8:41 PM
Congrats, that was a good idea!

Yes I advocate cleaning all new firearms, gets out the packing oil and any loose metal shavings.

You don't need to detail strip the action.
Just break it down into the following, stock, trigger group/guard, action, receiver/barrel, bolt/spring/rod. Pay extra attention to getting the bolt in and out to not bend the spring.

Rimfire123
10-03-2012, 9:08 PM
only way to clean the barrel is from the muzzle end right? doesn't it mess up the crown?

thanks

Chaos47
10-03-2012, 9:14 PM
I would never advocate cleaning from the muzzle end. Yes that can mess up rifling and the crown. I use a bore snake from the chamber out.

dooodstevenn
10-04-2012, 11:26 PM
I plan on getting an XT-22 and scoping it,
:thumbsup: so when is the "XT-22 Mega Thread" going to start?!

Agreed on the remington ammo. My 795 don't like remington. (thunderbolts IIRC) so far it's the only ammo i've experienced this issue with consistently. Went back to Federal and haven't had one for around 1,000rds.

My 795 loves remington bulk ammo, hates winchester :confused:

roushstage2
10-05-2012, 7:50 AM
Working on gathering all of the info for an XT-22 megathread. Takes some time to get it all together when there is nothing like it anywhere ;)

dooodstevenn
10-05-2012, 7:44 PM
Working on gathering all of the info for an XT-22 megathread. Takes some time to get it all together when there is nothing like it anywhere ;)

I'll be looking forward to it!

speaking of, i just picked up my xt-22 today :D can't wait to shoot it

dooodstevenn
10-06-2012, 4:48 PM
I had to dremmel and file off some steel off my rifle, any suggestions on cold blueing?

Chaos47
10-06-2012, 5:06 PM
What did you have to dremmel and file!?

dooodstevenn
10-06-2012, 9:24 PM
What did you have to dremmel and file!?

the rifling! who needs that stuff anyways!

I had to take some metal off the bolt on my xt-22...did not want to go high rings and medium 11mm rings were still not enough.

Chaos47
10-06-2012, 10:32 PM
Ah ok makes sense, Iv heard good stuff about birchwood caseys perma blue paste.

No idea if it will match your finish.. they make "super blue" and "super black" too.

Only bad thing I have had from them was their super black touchup pen. It works great looks just like the finish on an AR15 but... CLP takes it right off :/

dooodstevenn
10-06-2012, 11:39 PM
Ah ok makes sense, Iv heard good stuff about birchwood caseys perma blue paste.

No idea if it will match your finish.. they make "super blue" and "super black" too.

Only bad thing I have had from them was their super black touchup pen. It works great looks just like the finish on an AR15 but... CLP takes it right off :/

Oh okay, I've been reading reviews and all of the cold blue stuff seems to have a few bad ones, but I have seen that birchwood casey has some good stuff too. I've also seen that wonder blue stuff, but reviewers seem to not like it. I'll pick up something this week, but i doubt i'll even be able to shoot or cold blue this week. I've got too much work to do, and it really sucks looking at this rifle all day :mad:

Grey1one
10-07-2012, 5:39 PM
Big 5 has them for $159.00 again, maybe they are using gasoline to make them these days.

dooodstevenn
10-07-2012, 6:18 PM
http://i49.tinypic.com/2gufv4h.jpg

turns out I was able to get out to the range today, here's my best at 50 yards benched with a bipod and prostaff scope and CCI mini mag

from the very bottom edge to the very top edge thats a hair under 1 inch

Raptor3000
10-08-2012, 8:40 AM
Yesterday took my brand new 795 with tech sights to my indoor range, and happy to say that its crazy accurate and real fun with tech sights (stock ones are real crap). I had one FTF issue in around 100 rounds it may be ammo, was using Walmart Federal.

Glad i picked 795 instead of 10/22:-)

Chaos47
10-08-2012, 10:30 PM
Yesterday took my brand new 795 with tech sights to my indoor range, and happy to say that its crazy accurate and real fun with tech sights (stock ones are real crap). I had one FTF issue in around 100 rounds it may be ammo, was using Walmart Federal.

Glad i picked 795 instead of 10/22:-)

Glad to hear this!!! :rockon:

xtian13
10-09-2012, 6:14 AM
Regarding the Tech Sights, I have had TWO ongoing issues that I'm hoping to get some feedback/suggestions on.

1) My rear sight creeps. Even after multiple attempts at re-installing with loctite, (blue) I still can't get the damn thing to stay on. At one point, I accidentally broke the screw that holds the rear sight to the rail. Tech Sights sent me the new re-designed assembly for free. (thumbsup for the great customer service)

I may take it out this weekend again after one more re-install to see if I can get it to hold. If it fails to hold, I will need to go back to the OEM sights or sell these things and mount a scope to it. (not really what I wanted to do though since this is my "learning" rifle and I really prefer the peep sights for this reason)

2) With my Tech Sights, I have always had to aim low and to the left. Even at 25-30 yards, I find myself aiming low and to the left to compensate. (this is not the case with the stock sights, which make nice groups from 25-30 yards.) Not really THAT big of a deal, but if I bring a friend out to shoot and they are a beginner, I don't want them miss out on the thrill of hearing .22 plinking just because my sights are off.

How can I either:

A) Install sights correctly so I don't have to compensate?
B) Adjust sights so I don't have to compensate? (or is this not possible)

CharlesV
10-09-2012, 11:02 AM
I got my 60 and 795 but havent taken them out yet. I was happy to see swivel studs on the 795 but there were none on the 60 and thats where i want them. Does anyone know who in the Riverside/Corona region can install them? Ive talked to three gunsmiths and none yet will do it.

I checked them out well and both have gravelly actions. The 795 has a canted front sight but its only like 0.5mm and it didnt seem worth rejecting the gun. The 60 was spot on and has a very handsome stock, not like the ones i have previously seen on displays. The 795 stock feels both thin and short, 60 feels great. So its the 795 that will get the change later and if i need a gunsmith to adjust the barrel then ok too. It didnt hit me until later that tech sights would use the same mounting and be canted too, correct? Can the barrel be adjusted or was i wrong to not reject it?

Im waiting for UTG 3-12/40 scope and rings now. Just need a gunsmith somewhere for the studs.

inbox485
10-10-2012, 10:43 AM
Regarding the Tech Sights, I have had TWO ongoing issues that I'm hoping to get some feedback/suggestions on.

1) My rear sight creeps. Even after multiple attempts at re-installing with loctite, (blue) I still can't get the damn thing to stay on. At one point, I accidentally broke the screw that holds the rear sight to the rail. Tech Sights sent me the new re-designed assembly for free. (thumbsup for the great customer service)

I may take it out this weekend again after one more re-install to see if I can get it to hold. If it fails to hold, I will need to go back to the OEM sights or sell these things and mount a scope to it. (not really what I wanted to do though since this is my "learning" rifle and I really prefer the peep sights for this reason)

2) With my Tech Sights, I have always had to aim low and to the left. Even at 25-30 yards, I find myself aiming low and to the left to compensate. (this is not the case with the stock sights, which make nice groups from 25-30 yards.) Not really THAT big of a deal, but if I bring a friend out to shoot and they are a beginner, I don't want them miss out on the thrill of hearing .22 plinking just because my sights are off.

How can I either:

A) Install sights correctly so I don't have to compensate?
B) Adjust sights so I don't have to compensate? (or is this not possible)

I have recent Tech Sights on 795's. Both 795's I own seem to be an endless fountain of crap QC issues, but the tech sights have been flawless. They are adjustable for both windage (left right), and elevation (up down). They are 5/8 MOA per click. That is 5/8" at 100 yards, 5/16" at 50 yards, and 5/32" at 25 yards. 22LR rifles are normally zero'd at 25 yards. The little piece of paper that comes with the sights explains how to adjust them.

I'm guessing you haven't been to an Appleseed event. You would be doing yourself a great service if you did: http://www.appleseedinfo.org/search-states.php

elx144
10-10-2012, 2:23 PM
1) My rear sight creeps. Even after multiple attempts at re-installing with loctite, (blue) I still can't get the damn thing to stay on. At one point, I accidentally broke the screw that holds the rear sight to the rail. Tech Sights sent me the new re-designed assembly for free. (thumbsup for the great customer service)

I may take it out this weekend again after one more re-install to see if I can get it to hold. If it fails to hold, I will need to go back to the OEM sights or sell these things and mount a scope to it. (not really what I wanted to do though since this is my "learning" rifle and I really prefer the peep sights for this reason)

2) With my Tech Sights, I have always had to aim low and to the left. Even at 25-30 yards, I find myself aiming low and to the left to compensate. (this is not the case with the stock sights, which make nice groups from 25-30 yards.) Not really THAT big of a deal, but if I bring a friend out to shoot and they are a beginner, I don't want them miss out on the thrill of hearing .22 plinking just because my sights are off.

How can I either:

A) Install sights correctly so I don't have to compensate?
B) Adjust sights so I don't have to compensate? (or is this not possible)

I mounted my tech-sights all the way back and put blue loc-tite on the rail and the screw. I almost stripped the tightening screw. My screw driver slipped out and scraped some of the metal, but so far the sights haven't moved. The sight looks a little crooked depending on how you look at it, but it shoots straight.

You can adjust for windage, there's little lines on the back of the sight that should be centered. I used a crescent wrench to move the knob on the right side until the biggest line was in the center.

Panchira!
10-11-2012, 6:28 PM
Well after our last range trip the 3 funky ejected casings I had made me scratch my head. Well I cleaned it and paid close attention to the bolt face. Low and behold packed with deposits! Just around the bolt face where the primer lip of the .22 sits! Scrapped it off there was a ton of deposits on it! We're going back out this weekend and well give it another shot! I have a half brick of n&i golden bullet (20 rounds or so). Well try them out then move back to federals. Although dirtier I have had ZERO issues with the federals!

BakaLogic
10-11-2012, 6:56 PM
Hi all,

My 795 seems to be acting up. I first noticed it at Appleseed where it seemed to be misfiring occasionally. One of the instructors tried it and couldn't reproduce the issue and we thought it might be because the rifle was dirty. Also, there was no audible or felt reset of the trigger after releasing from firing, but I had it set up that way with the DIP trigger guard and made a mental note to adjust the screw when I got home.

I brought it home after Appleseed to clean the rifle and put a Boyd's stock on it. I also adjusted the over travel screw but noticed that at a certain point the trigger stopped before hitting the screw. If I removed the trigger guard from the rifle, the trigger traveled back fully.

Today when I went to shoot it, I was having problems where it wouldn't fire after I loaded it and hit the slide release. I found that if I wiggled the magazine back and forth, I could get it to fire. But by the end of the session even wiggling the magazine back and forth did not work. I had to manually remove the magazine and re-seat it before the weapon would fire. I did this for each round.

Any ideas on what might be happening? Should I just send in my rifle to Marlin and ask them to look at it? (I'd have to test it with the factory trigger and stock since I'd be sending it back with both.)

Despite my issues, I did get to shoot a couple rimfire challenge targets at 25 yards (resting my elbow on the bench, no rest per se). I know, I can't hit anything with my rifle. But considering before Appleseed I was having trouble hitting anywhere close to bull, I'm pretty happy. :)

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