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Agent Orange
08-11-2012, 7:53 AM
Concealed means concealed folks:

"New Haven police apprehended a man who brought a loaded handgun into a movie theater during a showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" on Tuesday night. On Wednesday, he said he brought the gun with him to feel safe."

http://tinyurl.com/dyo7vmf

email
08-11-2012, 8:05 AM
Sickening

guns4life
08-11-2012, 8:14 AM
Love the BS charges they are trying to hit him with...idiots.

TripleThreat
08-11-2012, 8:19 AM
It's not clear, did he have the gun in the small of his back or was it exposed?
If it exposed, was that on purpose?

Interesting.

RP1911
08-11-2012, 8:45 AM
Probably was exposed when sitting down or getting up off the chair.

toadman
08-11-2012, 8:53 AM
Concealed means concealed folks:

"New Haven police apprehended a man who brought a loaded handgun into a movie theater during a showing of "The Dark Knight Rises" on Tuesday night. On Wednesday, he said he brought the gun with him to feel safe."

http://tinyurl.com/dyo7vmf

I know a couple of guys that have a concealed weapons permit. 1 guy U never know he's carrying. The other, U always know. In fact he makes a point of letting U know.

morfeeis
08-11-2012, 9:05 AM
"I*normally do not carry, but I live in downtown New Haven and the movie was getting out at 1 a.m., so I felt that I*should protect myself since I*was alone," Hwang, who has a valid permit to carry a gun, said during a news conference on Wednesday afternoon.

I love that he said nothing about the movie but talked about the area of town he was in and the time. Sounds like he has a good head on his shoulders.

And wow at the BS charges.........

vintagearms
08-11-2012, 11:19 AM
"According to police, Hwang remained in his seat using his cell phone and did not comply with the officers' commands.

Hwang said he was cooperative and followed all directions from police.

Police said they took Hwang into custody by force and officers were then able to remove the loaded handgun from his waistband at the small of his back, police said."


Idiot should have complied with police and he probably would just been asked to leave the gun in the car. Also, how difficult is it to conceal a handgun? :facepalm:

Mr.1904
08-11-2012, 11:38 AM
"Oh my god he's got a GUN!" :shock::nono::willy_nilly:

Guns are taboo now adays. Just because he had a gun on him he was considered a public enemy. Uneducated people are to blame. As long as he wasn't committing any criminal act i don't see the problem. Were there no gun signs posted?

Citadelgrad87
08-11-2012, 12:22 PM
Interesting. There was a thread in OT about two months ago, revolving around someone in CA that was ridiculously printing.

The amount of "MYOB" was sickening.

meaty-btz
08-11-2012, 12:32 PM
Harassment of a Lawful act is never acceptable. We are not a nation of laws it would seem but a nation of Fear. Where fears trump law.

You of course have forgotten about the open carry person (LEGAL) who was also arrested in a theater. A Legal act is Legal until a Law makes it otherwise. However we have people driven by fear and terror and a police force who seem willing to act in reaction to fear rather than with reason and law.

Having lost a valuable shooting ability due to others fears, despite legality of it all. We have to decide as a nation, are we a Nation of Fear or a Nation of Law, the two are mutually exclusive. It should be noted that the USSR and the Eastern Block nations were Nations of Fear.

I am sickened by the police response and by the response of the other citizens who are behaving like scared rabbits.

Yaki
08-11-2012, 12:39 PM
I geuss the facts need to come out before guessing what took place. I read that his gun wasn't on hie person but in a fanny pack type belt. I also read he didn't resist but did what he was ordered to do..
Again when details come out we will get a glimpse of what took place.

tuna quesadilla
08-11-2012, 1:45 PM
"According to police, Hwang remained in his seat using his cell phone and did not comply with the officers' commands.

Hwang said he was cooperative and followed all directions from police.

Police said they took Hwang into custody by force and officers were then able to remove the loaded handgun from his waistband at the small of his back, police said."


Idiot should have complied with police and he probably would just been asked to leave the gun in the car. Also, how difficult is it to conceal a handgun? :facepalm:

Considering that this guy is obviously a lawyer who is pro-2A, my guess when I first read this story on a different site was that he intentionally got himself arrested so he could sue the LE agency/movie theater. We'll see what happens. :)

fremont lapua
08-11-2012, 4:05 PM
My understanding if you have a CCW permit that you need to keep it concealed and if someone sees a weapon then you broke the law. If you keep in in a IWB holster and go to a store then at the checkout you go to get your wallet and the cashier sees a gun you can be charged because it was not concealed. This is just my understanding of the law as I do not have a CCW permit. I could be wrong.

tuna quesadilla
08-11-2012, 4:30 PM
My understanding if you have a CCW permit that you need to keep it concealed and if someone sees a weapon then you broke the law. If you keep in in a IWB holster and go to a store then at the checkout you go to get your wallet and the cashier sees a gun you can be charged because it was not concealed. This is just my understanding of the law as I do not have a CCW permit. I could be wrong.

Your understanding of the law is wrong -- Connecticut issues a general license to carry which covers both concealed and open methods of carry. Why did you even feel the need to chime in with this lovely piece of misinformation? :confused:

gobler
08-11-2012, 5:58 PM
Lawyer did nothing wrong and now is being punished. Hope he sues the living sh!+ out of the theater and PD. A nice 7 or 8 digit number would be fun.
If they are going to infringe on our rights then we should infringe on there profits & budgets.

Sent from somewhere in space & time...

Gryff
08-12-2012, 12:15 AM
Police entered Theater 1 and asked the patrons to raise their hands and file out of the theater. As they exited, they were patted down and escorted outside.

The officers identified Hwang as the suspect, drew their weapons and ordered him to put his hands up.

Whoa! :eek:

They patted down everybody?!

anthonyca
08-12-2012, 12:50 AM
New Haven is an absolute ghetto dump, think Oakland, Compton, Stockton. The cops could easily arrest 50 extra people in one night if they wanted to, but this makes national headlines? All craphole cities have the same mentality, focus on an object and ignore problems.

5thgen4runner
08-12-2012, 1:00 AM
"According to police, Hwang remained in his seat using his cell phone and did not comply with the officers' commands.

Hwang said he was cooperative and followed all directions from police.

Police said they took Hwang into custody by force and officers were then able to remove the loaded handgun from his waistband at the small of his back, police said."


Idiot should have complied with police and he probably would just been asked to leave the gun in the car. Also, how difficult is it to conceal a handgun? :facepalm:

:confused: :rolleyes:

m98
08-12-2012, 1:37 AM
Lawyer did nothing wrong and now is being punished. Hope he sues the living sh!+ out of the theater and PD. A nice 7 or 8 digit number would be fun.
If they are going to infringe on our rights then we should infringe on there profits & budgets.

Sent from somewhere in space & time...


Yep, i'm glad to see that this lawyer is stepping up to the plate to take one for the team. Cmon gotta exercise our rights. They f--- with us, sue the snot out of em. Thats what they deserve for infringing the 2a rights. Gotta hit it where it hurts. And the only way to hurt those antis is to use their weapon against them.

morfeeis
08-12-2012, 2:40 AM
Yep, i'm glad to see that this lawyer is stepping up to the plate to take one for the team. Cmon gotta exercise our rights. They f--- with us, sue the snot out of em. Thats what they deserve for infringing the 2a rights. Gotta hit it where it hurts. And the only way to hurt those antis is to use their weapon against them.
They dont care how much money they get sued for, they will just raise taxes, it's free money to them.....

m98
08-12-2012, 4:51 AM
They dont care how much money they get sued for, they will just raise taxes, it's free money to them.....


But the ruling in the favor of our 2a is one step further in fightn of these idiots. Its better than not winning anything pro 2a.

BigCumfy
08-12-2012, 6:10 AM
He's a lawyer with a loaded weapon on him. I find it really hard to believe that he wasn't cooperative. He said he followed their orders. They said he didn't. I wonder who they will believe.

davbog44
08-12-2012, 6:25 AM
There's a big difference between right and wrong, and common sense sometimes. IF, as I read above (and elsewhere) that CT law issues a permit that doesn't specify / differentiate between open carry and concealed carry, then he didn't break the law, and certainly should have suffered no other consequence than perhaps being asked to leave, if the theater had a no weapons policy.

But common sense tells me that, right now, in the wake of the CO episode, if ever there was a time when "concealed means concealed" then this was it.

If he was made at the door (they were patting everyone down?) then why was he in his seat when the Police arrived? There are still details here that are sketchy.

I recently took my daughter to see Dark Knight Rises, and I carried. Brilliantly, they were far more concerned about her insulin pens and glucose meter (she has Type 1 diabetes and they checked her purse when we entered the theater) but had no clue regarding the little HK on my hip and never gave me a second look. Had they been frisking everyone, you can bet I would have found an excuse to head back to the car, or simply told my daughter we'd have to go another day.

Regardless of the fact I have a valid LTC, sometimes discretion is the better part of valor, and concealed carry.

meaty-btz
08-12-2012, 7:51 AM
There's a big difference between right and wrong, and common sense sometimes.

But common sense tells me that, right now, in the wake of the CO episode, if ever there was a time when "concealed means concealed" then this was it.

Regardless of the fact I have a valid LTC, sometimes discretion is the better part of valor, and concealed carry.

What you are saying is both correct and wrong. One should not do things to antagonize the masses. However, arresting someone for a legal action is the height of harassment and has been a tool used over and over again to chill an action that is legal through use of force and fear. That is thuggery, not law enforcement. What law were they enforcing?

Further if we continue to let the fears of others ascribe the range, reach, and nature of our nation we will end in a very bad place.

If you have the legal coverage and the MONEY, I would say everyone should be doing what this lawyer did. People forget that protesting a wrong has a historic indication of being COSTLY. That it is common for those who are protesting, even fully legally, will be harassed, falsely accused, arrested, even beaten and killed.

But it takes CONVICTION, and in today's world, more than a little Money, to be able to stand up to an established system of Terror and Force.

voiceofreason
08-12-2012, 7:54 AM
I wonder if this is his way of trumping up business/starting some type of civil rights organization/etc.

He was most likely well aware that he was within his legal rights to carry there.