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Uplink
08-07-2012, 11:41 PM
This is more out of frustration. I am currently deployed to Afghanistan from California as a defense contractor. I can be sent over here to do a job for my country but I can't access any of the websites to defend my civil rights as an american! This tangent started when I tried to access the websites for SB249. All of which are blocked. I am in shock as to how many .gov sights are blocked.

If you ask my opinion. If these jack wagons want to live in a nation with strict gun laws then go to Europe and stop trying to model America after something its not! Inaction of the Just allows the for the action of the unjust to reach fruition.

The funniest thing is its not even about guns its about our civil rights as per the constitution. What happens when the law abiding, hard working, tax paying citizen loses there civil rights and the right to protect themselves. They get bullied, robbed, murdered, raped and what ever else because the criminals all still have guns! You cant regulate the criminals but you can regulate the law abiding until they themselves are made criminals because they excersise there civil rights as per the Constitution of the United States of America.

Take God out of the country?! No pledge of alligence?!

One nation 'UNDER' God! Indivisable! Liberty and Justice for ALL!

:79:

Curley Red
08-08-2012, 8:57 AM
One nation 'UNDER' God! Indivisable! Liberty and Justice for ALL!

You do know that "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance 62 years after it was written. It was Louis A. Bowman that first added the words "under God". According to Francis Bellamy's daughter he would have been extremely upset to now that they added "under God" to his pledge of allegiance.

Here is how it was originally written by Francis Bellamy:

I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


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Just a little history.

ZombieTactics
08-08-2012, 9:14 AM
You do know that "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance 62 years after it was written. It was Louis A. Bowman that first added the words "under God". According to Francis Bellamy's daughter he would have been extremely upset to now that they added "under God" to his pledge of allegiance.

Here is how it was originally written by Francis Bellamy:

I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands, one nation indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.


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Just a little history.

And your point would be what exactly?

Clownpuncher
08-08-2012, 9:17 AM
This is more out of frustration. I am currently deployed to Afghanistan from California as a defense contractor. I can be sent over here to do a job for my country but I can't access any of the websites to defend my civil rights as an american! This tangent started when I tried to access the websites for SB249. All of which are blocked. I am in shock as to how many .gov sights are blocked.

:79:


Dude, you're in a combat zone in the middle of the stone age. I imagine they are blocked for bandwidth reasons vice some nefarious plot to deny your rights.

radioman
08-08-2012, 9:25 AM
I think his point is, it would not harm the pledge one bit. If we were one nation indivisible, we would be one nation indivisible. with or without God..

Coded-Dude
08-08-2012, 9:32 AM
so........I assume they have also blocked all the vpn/proxy sites as well?

vantec08
08-08-2012, 9:35 AM
We need criminal control.

NoJoke
08-08-2012, 9:38 AM
You do know that "under God" was added to the pledge of allegiance....



Why YES, yes it was added. :D

Curley Red
08-08-2012, 10:13 AM
And your point would be what exactly?


Just showing the story behind those words. Got a problem with that? Everything doesn't have an agenda if that is what you were trying to get at.

Cobrafreak
08-08-2012, 10:52 AM
They block porn too, the Military does-Yoda

Sunday
08-08-2012, 2:13 PM
This is more out of frustration. I am currently deployed to Afghanistan from California as a defense contractor. I can be sent over here to do a job for my country but I can't access any of the websites to defend my civil rights as an american! This tangent started when I tried to access the websites for SB249. All of which are blocked. I am in shock as to how many .gov sights are blocked.

If you ask my opinion. If these jack wagons want to live in a nation with strict gun laws then go to Europe and stop trying to model America after something its not! Inaction of the Just allows the for the action of the unjust to reach fruition.

The funniest thing is its not even about guns its about our civil rights as per the constitution. What happens when the law abiding, hard working, tax paying citizen loses there civil rights and the right to protect themselves. They get bullied, robbed, murdered, raped and what ever else because the criminals all still have guns! You cant regulate the criminals but you can regulate the law abiding until they themselves are made criminals because they excersise there civil rights as per the Constitution of the United States of America.

Take God out of the country?! No pledge of alligence?!

One nation 'UNDER' God! Indivisable! Liberty and Justice for ALL!

:79:
What are you and your buddies going to do about it? The threat to the freedoms are not from the middle east but from our government and the people who do the governments work. I will not add more to this rant,

Paper Boy
08-08-2012, 2:28 PM
This is more out of frustration. I am currently deployed to Afghanistan from California as a defense contractor. I can be sent over here to do a job for my country but I can't access any of the websites to defend my civil rights as an american! This tangent started when I tried to access the websites for SB249. All of which are blocked. I am in shock as to how many .gov sights are blocked.



I was a deployed defense contractor as well. I was in Afghanistan and I knew what I was getting into, the country is a 4th world country after all.

There is limited bandwidth and so they block ALOT of sites and most if not all streaming websites such as youtube and netflix. Hell I was happy to have internet as slow as it was it could have been worse. We lost power on a regular basis, were locked down due to threats a few times.

Remember when the US embassy was attacked last year? That was down the main road from me and we had to scramble to make it back to our compound before they locked it down.

Hell after I left the country the compound I was in was attacked and the main wall blown up - two insurgents actually made it inside the walls.

Just to put it into perspective for you...

If you don’t like the work I will gladly take you spot, I am looking to go back over. :D

POLICESTATE
08-08-2012, 2:29 PM
VPN services are your friend. :D

Sunday
08-08-2012, 5:23 PM
We need criminal control. Criminals are good they are huge industry.

Uplink
08-08-2012, 8:40 PM
Dude, you're in a combat zone in the middle of the stone age. I imagine they are blocked for bandwidth reasons vice some nefarious plot to deny your rights.


Your assumption is invalid. First I didn't claim it was some conspiracy. I mearly stated it was out of frustration. Yes I am in a combat zone, yet I have no problem ordering things from newegg or amazon, I can even post replies on calgun.net. Though the country may be living in the stone age the people on this base are not. So Clown puncher you can have all the theories you want from your couch. However since I'm actually here, I say again your assumption is invalid. And I am still frustrated.

mt4design
08-08-2012, 8:59 PM
EDITORIAL: Obama frags military voters
Support the troops, just don’t let them vote

President Obama goes out of his way to appear to support the troops. But when it comes to voting, he would like to keep them out of the fight.

The Obama for America Campaign, the Democratic National Committee and the Ohio Democratic Party are suing the critical swing state of Ohio to strike down a law that makes it easier for members of the military to vote. Under the law, people in uniform may cast early ballots in person up to the day before an election, instead of the previous Friday cutoff for other voters.

www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/aug/3/obama-frags-military-voters/
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Naw, there's no conspiracy to keep you ill informed and unable to participate in the process.

Thanks for doing the hard work.

My dad was a "contractor" before there was such a thing working the supply lines "in country" back in '69-70.

Uplink
08-08-2012, 10:24 PM
I was a deployed defense contractor as well. I was in Afghanistan and I knew what I was getting into, the country is a 4th world country after all.

There is limited bandwidth and so they block ALOT of sites and most if not all streaming websites such as youtube and netflix. Hell I was happy to have internet as slow as it was it could have been worse. We lost power on a regular basis, were locked down due to threats a few times.

Remember when the US embassy was attacked last year? That was down the main road from me and we had to scramble to make it back to our compound before they locked it down.

Hell after I left the country the compound I was in was attacked and the main wall blown up - two insurgents actually made it inside the walls.

Just to put it into perspective for you...

If you don’t like the work I will gladly take you spot, I am looking to go back over. :D

I get the perspective part and thats fine. I'm just frustrated bottom line. I retired from the military, I'm still serving as a civilian. Its not about being deployed, its not about internet, its about being frustrated. It's about watching our troops fighting a political war with horribly restrictive ROE's, its watching goverment officials slowely taking away the things that made America so awesome, its about watching the American people let it happen, trading thier rights for a false sense of promised security. Its a battle of "Will". It feels like the peoples "Will" is failiing. SB249 its just a drop in the bucket of injusticesand lack of common sense in political decisions. It just happened to be the one that got me spun up in all its ambigous and rediculous glory.

I love how if someone mentions God people get butt hurt and focus on that. Yeah I'm a Christian, I put my faith in God. My choice, My Freedom which is what this is about. Freedom of religion is a constitutionally guaranteed right provided in the religion clauses of the First Amendment. So don't go all persicutive about the below story. Its about a 5 year old giving thanks before eating.

Two years ago when my older twins were in kindergarten. They were saying grace before eating. They were told they couldn't do that in school. We took our kids out of that school. We teach our kids to have an open mind and to respect others and there beliefs. We also teach them that they should never be ashamed of there own beliefs. This is in California. Coming from Idaho where I was stationed for the last 8 years of my military career, California was very restrictive however its where my company needed me so off we go. In the 2 1/2 years I've been in California I have become much more edjucated on state politics, 2nd amendment rights, and how important it is to have a voice in the future of the state and nation.

“It is extremely important that individuals in the state of California do not own assault weapons. I mean that is just so crystal clear, there is no debate, no discussion,” said Yee.

http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/05/20/cbs-5-story-inspires-new-legislation-to-ban-bullet-button/

The above statement had me burnt. Everytime I went to one of the sites to sign a another petition or at least try and voice a concern the site was blocked. Not a conspiricy just the way it is.

Why is it so important that we don’t own “assault weapons”? What makes this so crystal clear? No debate? No discussion? No democracy.


Curly,

The Constitution does not have in God we trust because our founding fathers feared the rise of another theocratic government. America's founders did not intend for there to be a separation of God and state, as shown by the fact that all 50 states acknowledge God in their state constitutions. Not a religious debate just replying to your statement with researched information.

Clown,

I responded to your post with sarcasm. I appologize for that it was unnecessary.

I'm just at a loss. Not trolling and not trying to start a flame war. Just looking to comiserate and share my frustrations.