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tenpercentfirearms
08-07-2012, 12:59 PM
Our first thread got a lot of reports, so this one is back.

www.sb249guns.com

Also be sure to check out our ad in the Capitol Morning Report.

http://www.capitolmr.com/classified.asp

It is now in the middle of the page. It was at the bottom this morning. So now every staffer, politician, lobbyist has seen the video by now.

We know some of you think that this is giving the enemy too much information. We think it is giving the enemy more exposure than they were looking for.

Some of you have questioned the accuracy of my demonstration. Thank you for your concern. It is a marketing/scare the anti's video. Relax.

Plus it was just fun to make.

safewaysecurity
08-07-2012, 1:01 PM
Why did the last thread disappear?

Coded-Dude
08-07-2012, 1:06 PM
looks like most of the page one results for SB249 are for stopping it...which is a good thing.

Mr.Sandman
08-07-2012, 1:09 PM
Why did the last thread disappear?

Same question. Why did the last one disappear only to be replaced by the very same thing. :confused:

Yugo
08-07-2012, 1:12 PM
:popcorn:

putput
08-07-2012, 1:17 PM
That's it. I'm going featureless. I'm tired of bullet buttons anyway. Thanks Leland Yee!

Hey the stuff I need is 10% off. Sweet!

PolishMike
08-07-2012, 1:23 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PJFthK3VmsU/UCGHQGaT_tI/AAAAAAAABC4/Lbho_xKL0VI/s539/TMIMINW.jpg

Kestryll
08-07-2012, 1:25 PM
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-PJFthK3VmsU/UCGHQGaT_tI/AAAAAAAABC4/Lbho_xKL0VI/s539/TMIMINW.jpg

Reeaally????


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/elrojo14/guns/jk10.jpg

BlackTydeTactical
08-07-2012, 1:32 PM
Nice video Wes. Couldn't have better in my book.

Paper Boy
08-07-2012, 1:36 PM
http://ts4.mm.bing.net/images/thumbnail.aspx?q=4681824252134323&id=5419e9fe935cf9f6904e3dbad8c72c07
Reeaally????


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/elrojo14/guns/jk10.jpg

USMCM16A2
08-07-2012, 1:56 PM
Wes,


I have always liked and respected you for what you have done for the community. But what makes you think that Yee who is still crafting his bill, will not ban featureless builds?. If you have some info, share it or PM me. The bill is not done yet, Respectfully yours, A2

Prince50
08-07-2012, 2:06 PM
Wes,

Classic!

I Love it!

Darin

Jeepers
08-07-2012, 2:12 PM
again this is awesome Wes .. now didnt you say something about more to come today in the orig thread that is gone ? :D

wildhawker
08-07-2012, 2:14 PM
Wes,


I have always liked and respected you for what you have done for the community. But what makes you think that Yee who is still crafting his bill, will not ban featureless builds?. If you have some info, share it or PM me. The bill is not done yet, Respectfully yours, A2

USMC, please, please, please throw me into that briar patch!

Wes is exactly right on this.

-Brandon

ptoguy2002
08-07-2012, 2:15 PM
.... that Yee who is still crafting his bill, will not ban featureless builds..
He CAN'T. That is the point. And if he does try, he will get smacked down hard doing it, and life will be great because the entire AWB will go away. Yee will go down in history as the only politician to get smacked down by scotus twice on 3 different amendments.
I almost feel like saying bring it, because it will make the AWB go away faster....Almost.
Wes's video is trying to get the point across that Yee's bill is pointless from a practical point of view.

jonzer77
08-07-2012, 2:17 PM
He CAN'T. That is the point. And if he does try, he will get smacked down hard doing it, and life will be great because the entire AWB will go away. Yee will go down in history as the only politician to get smacked down by scotus twice on 3 different amendments.
I almost feel like saying bring it, because it will make the AWB go away faster. Almost.
Wes's video is trying to get the point across that Yee's bill is pointless.

I know about the video game smack down, possible SB249 but what is the third thing?

SoCal Gunner
08-07-2012, 2:23 PM
Nice Work - Love the Hello Kitty touch.

Sgt Raven
08-07-2012, 2:24 PM
Wes,


I have always liked and respected you for what you have done for the community. But what makes you think that Yee who is still crafting his bill, will not ban featureless builds?. If you have some info, share it or PM me. The bill is not done yet, Respectfully yours, A2

Let Yee try and get rid of all semi-auto Rifles. It will be used against Obama and the Democrats in every swing State. It could cost Obama the election and the Democrats the Senate.

Goosebrown
08-07-2012, 3:25 PM
I find myself strangely attracted to that hunk of a gin'ger on the Vespa...

tpc13
08-07-2012, 3:31 PM
Would that be funny if Lees anti gun get Obama out of office because people will see the bigger picture..

OlderThanDirt
08-07-2012, 3:35 PM
Wes,


I have always liked and respected you for what you have done for the community. But what makes you think that Yee who is still crafting his bill, will not ban featureless builds?. If you have some info, share it or PM me. The bill is not done yet, Respectfully yours, A2

Attempting to ban featureless builds would suck in virtually every other semiautomatic rifle on the market. There might be a little Constitutional problem in banning firearms that have been in common use since the mid 1900s. Now you would be pissing off the old guys.

10%, classic video. Maybe a DVD version should be sent to every member of the Legislature? A shortened version would also make an outstanding TV commercial. The placement of the ad in The Capital Morning Report was also a nice touch.

Sgt Raven
08-07-2012, 3:42 PM
Would that be funny if Lees anti gun get Obama out of office because people will see the bigger picture..

Yee, the man who cost the President his job and the Democrats the Senate. What a legacy for a Democrat to run on. :43:

donw
08-07-2012, 3:44 PM
don't put ANYTHING past Yee and his constiuents...he's a legislator isn't he?

IPSICK
08-07-2012, 3:53 PM
Wes,


I have always liked and respected you for what you have done for the community. But what makes you think that Yee who is still crafting his bill, will not ban featureless builds?. If you have some info, share it or PM me. The bill is not done yet, Respectfully yours, A2


You mean this featureless?

http://www.browning.com/support/files/images/brn/General_Content/BAR_Safari_with_scope.JPG

OlderThanDirt
08-07-2012, 4:54 PM
You mean this featureless?

http://www.browning.com/support/files/images/brn/General_Content/BAR_Safari_with_scope.JPG

And this:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmvlVuHlt-dA9u_pmBwsHRQnyI1eJoV54byZG6YRARZpj4uk4wlA

And this:

http://www.m1garand.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/garand1-sm.jpg

I guess they will have to go back to this (or airsoft) for military veteran funerals held in California:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdtSmGA1jzeu9Lk_yU34iu7mQ9rl7wm LL98dj1jaFymiHjkm50JA

They can yell "bang" when they pull the trigger.

DonFerrando
08-07-2012, 4:57 PM
And this:

I guess they will have to go back to this (or airsoft) for military veteran funerals held in California:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdtSmGA1jzeu9Lk_yU34iu7mQ9rl7wm LL98dj1jaFymiHjkm50JA

They can yell "bang" when they pull the trigger.

Hehe! This made me giggle.

Clownpuncher
08-07-2012, 5:54 PM
I loved the video. Of course it is going to cost me a fortune because my wife now wants a hello kitty gun.

The only thing I would have done different is actually used a bullet to detach your mags. That would have added a step to each change and made it even longer.

Thanks for posting!

ontargetrange
08-07-2012, 9:42 PM
My Eyes -- My eyes -- that looks like a kodac moment I could have missed


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/elrojo14/guns/jk10.jpg[/QUOTE]

Wes,

THANK YOU for the video and other data -- I am incorporating them in my web page tomorrow and they will remain there until this crap is settled. I hope, as you stated, that someone somewhere in Sac gets their head out of their tailpipe and realizes that they will only lose big time.

safewaysecurity
08-09-2012, 12:11 AM
And this:

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRmvlVuHlt-dA9u_pmBwsHRQnyI1eJoV54byZG6YRARZpj4uk4wlA

And this:

http://www.m1garand.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/garand1-sm.jpg

I guess they will have to go back to this (or airsoft) for military veteran funerals held in California:

http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTdtSmGA1jzeu9Lk_yU34iu7mQ9rl7wm LL98dj1jaFymiHjkm50JA

They can yell "bang" when they pull the trigger.

They could probably craft language about semi-autos with detachable magazines so it wouldn't apply to semi-autos with internal feeding mags and guns fed with clips like the Garand. I don't think they have ANY problem banning something like an M1A or even a Garand for that matter given that they could use their spin and say these are MILITARY WEAPONS!!!

Now of course the NRA and CGF and other gun rights orgs would most definitely sue. And of course we would all re-assure ourselves that these arms are protected arms via the common use doctrine etc and we could even go further and say that it fails intermediate scrutiny. Remember the Heller II case where they mentioned "assault weapons" were in common use yet used intermediate scrutiny anyways. But given the climate of courts especially here in California I wouldn't be too optimistic that they would even strike down such an obvious violation. SCOTUS is even a tricky one because we pretty much know we have a guaranteed 4 votes currently against us and who knows if any of the Heller 5 will be swayed by the medias false portrayal of EBRs.

edwardm
08-09-2012, 5:31 AM
Our first thread got a lot of reports, so this one is back.

www.sb249guns.com

Also be sure to check out our ad in the Capitol Morning Report.

http://www.capitolmr.com/classified.asp

It is now in the middle of the page. It was at the bottom this morning. So now every staffer, politician, lobbyist has seen the video by now.

We know some of you think that this is giving the enemy too much information. We think it is giving the enemy more exposure than they were looking for.

Some of you have questioned the accuracy of my demonstration. Thank you for your concern. It is a marketing/scare the anti's video. Relax.

Plus it was just fun to make.

I'd love to come out and do a side-by-side video between a featureless AR and an M1A. Maybe even a Garand, just to see if a 70+ year old design makes them wet pants, too.

Anything to demonstrate the futility of their actions. Assmonkeys, the whole lot of them. And if that ticks him off to the point of adding anything with a detachable magazine, all the better for us in the long run.

IPSICK
08-09-2012, 6:29 AM
They could probably craft language about semi-autos with detachable magazines so it wouldn't apply to semi-autos with internal feeding mags and guns fed with clips like the Garand. I don't think they have ANY problem banning something like an M1A or even a Garand for that matter given that they could use their spin and say these are MILITARY WEAPONS!!!

Now of course the NRA and CGF and other gun rights orgs would most definitely sue. And of course we would all re-assure ourselves that these arms are protected arms via the common use doctrine etc and we could even go further and say that it fails intermediate scrutiny. Remember the Heller II case where they mentioned "assault weapons" were in common use yet used intermediate scrutiny anyways. But given the climate of courts especially here in California I wouldn't be too optimistic that they would even strike down such an obvious violation. SCOTUS is even a tricky one because we pretty much know we have a guaranteed 4 votes currently against us and who knows if any of the Heller 5 will be swayed by the medias false portrayal of EBRs.

This is why I use the modern Browning BAR hunting rifle (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/finder.asp?f1=002B&bg=x) as my example.

http://www.browning.com/support/files/images/brn/General_Content/BAR_Safari_with_scope.JPG

It was NEVER AN EBR. But it is a detachable magazine centerfire semi-auto firearm that is featureless. I know of an indirect way they could ban it that might pass muster but it wouldn't be a complete ban either. However, I support gun rights.

ar-bullet button glove
08-09-2012, 6:56 AM
has anyone thought to have a law written to have leland and his cohorts and the ya hoo's who are helping him with this bill have to see a doctor to see if they are mentaly fit to perform there duty to the people.there needs to be some oversight on the people that want to turn people into felons and there doing more harm to the people then the bullet button .they are more dangrous then any firearm in my book.fight back anyway you can.you have rights do not let them take what so many men and women have died for.

dmax11
08-09-2012, 7:09 AM
This is why I use the modern Browning BAR hunting rifle (http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/finder.asp?f1=002B&bg=x) as my example.

http://www.browning.com/support/files/images/brn/General_Content/BAR_Safari_with_scope.JPG

It was NEVER AN EBR. But it is a detachable magazine centerfire semi-auto firearm that is featureless. I know of an indirect way they could ban it that might pass muster but it wouldn't be a complete ban either. However, I support gun rights.

exactly, Remington has a model like that as well, my brother has one in 30-06 and it does have a detachable mag.

wildhawker
08-09-2012, 9:50 AM
If you build it, we will publish! :43:

-Branon

I'd love to come out and do a side-by-side video between a featureless AR and an M1A. Maybe even a Garand, just to see if a 70+ year old design makes them wet pants, too.

Anything to demonstrate the futility of their actions. Assmonkeys, the whole lot of them. And if that ticks him off to the point of adding anything with a detachable magazine, all the better for us in the long run.

safewaysecurity
08-09-2012, 9:55 AM
The AR is almost 70 years old itself.

njineermike
08-09-2012, 9:57 AM
Now that I understand what's going on, I don't see it as stupid anymore. I'm not convinced it will work, but I see the logic.

tenpercentfirearms
08-09-2012, 9:58 AM
Now that I understand what's going on, I don't see it as stupid anymore. I'm not convinced it will work, but I see the logic.

I will take that as a win!

njineermike
08-09-2012, 10:01 AM
I will take that as a win!

And my apologies for inferring stupidity in the other thread. I owe you a cold frosty beer for that.

tenpercentfirearms
08-09-2012, 10:06 AM
And my apologies for inferring stupidity in the other thread. I owe you a cold frosty beer for that.

Well I will take it. I honestly didn't remember that. I have thick skin and my memory is short when it comes to things like this. We are all on the same side even if we disagree from time to time.

Also e-mail me that question and I will respond. I turned PMs off, but for some stupid reason it still sends them to me, but I can't respond. wes@sb249guns.com

1911su16b870
08-09-2012, 11:00 AM
Another option is to drill and rivet a 10 round mag in the mag well and then remove the whole mag catch/spring/button assembly. Now you have a top loader with no magazine catch or any kind of "evil" bullet button.

edwardm
08-09-2012, 11:00 AM
If you build it, we will publish! :43:

-Branon

Don't have a camera suitable for the task, nor a featureless AR -- yet. I realized last night that I have FH's on both, so I am awaiting de-thumb-grip items *AND* MB's.

But I could certainly go up against someone else with an AR, using my M1A and pre-bans. I've gotten good at dumping those 20's in a hurry. :)

DonFerrando
08-09-2012, 11:18 AM
Another option is to drill and rivet a 10 round mag in the mag well and then remove the whole mag catch/spring/button assembly. Now you have a top loader with no magazine catch or any kind of "evil" bullet button.

Why not just remove the mag button and put the rivet through the hole? I'd hate to destroy a perfectly fine firearm by drilling through the receiver.

krushem2000
08-09-2012, 11:38 AM
guess rhino wont live this one down.. more therapy for me means gotta buy more black rifles.. keep up good work wes on sb update!!


http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g52/elrojo14/guns/jk10.jpg[/QUOTE]

safewaysecurity
08-09-2012, 11:48 AM
Wouldn't you have to also get rid of any sort of possible release of the magazine? I mean they require that the action be disassembled. Remember that glove magnet that someone on this board invented? Even if you got rid of the bullet button and thought it was now permanently attached you could still have a gun that Oscar considered to have a detachable magazine because of a powerful magnet.

tenpercentfirearms
08-23-2012, 5:52 AM
Just for posterity's sake, I am uploading a screen capture of my Capitol Morning Report ad. I have really enjoyed going back and reading through our archives what we did in the OLL movement in the early days. I think we are going to want to remember our successes with SB249 as well.

donw
08-23-2012, 7:15 AM
I'd love to come out and do a side-by-side video between a featureless AR and an M1A. Maybe even a Garand, just to see if a 70+ year old design makes them wet pants, too.

Anything to demonstrate the futility of their actions. Assmonkeys, the whole lot of them. And if that ticks him off to the point of adding anything with a detachable magazine, all the better for us in the long run.

there was an article recently about how there is great concern (by the UN) about the "Battlefield life" of old weapons and cited an example of some old enfields taken from some Taliban that were in the 70 years of age catagorey.

IIRC, Hillary Klinton was somehow involved, too.

i have a '93-95 Oviedo, Spanish Mauser that was made in 1924 that i still use and thru the years i've had numerous Mausers, Enfields and Mosins. all great rifles...the UN can "Sit on it" as far as i'm concerned...

tenpercentfirearms
08-23-2012, 9:54 PM
I just updated my ad again.

http://www.capitolmr.com/classified.asp

I attached a screen shot once it disappears.

We win!

Cali-Shooter
08-23-2012, 10:24 PM
GJ 10%, amazing getting the info out there into public view.

Also, another case of Politician's Syndrome:


I'm not anti-gun at all! Absolutely not!

Sen. Leland Yee


http://www.10news.com/video/31357408/index.html

tenpercentfirearms
08-24-2012, 5:15 AM
GJ 10%, amazing getting the info out there into public view.

Also, another case of Politician's Syndrome:

I'm not anti-gun at all! Absolutely not!

Sen. Leland Yee

http://www.10news.com/video/31357408/index.html
Every time I showed that clip to my classes this week I had to pause it and say, "He isn't anti-gun, but he wants to take away our guns." The students were ready to fight!

Get3CoffinsReady
08-25-2012, 1:16 AM
Whenever I read something about sb249 and Yee i think of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT7uR4wNMJs

Scratch705
08-25-2012, 1:44 AM
GJ 10%, amazing getting the info out there into public view.

Also, another case of Politician's Syndrome:



http://www.10news.com/video/31357408/index.html

i loved how they used your video. too bad it didn't show more and really showcase how dumb yee is if the BB was banned.